WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.080 welcome councillors to the council 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:04.559 meeting of monday the 13th of 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.919 december 2021 our final council meeting 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:11.039 for the year and welcome to those of 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:12.160 you we don't have anyone in the gallery 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:14.839 this evening but to those watching 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:16.879 online we start with the reading of the 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:19.440 reconciliation statement we acknowledge 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:20.960 that we are meeting on the traditional 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.120 lands of the Woi Wurrung 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:23.760 and Bunurong 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:25.760 people of the east kulin nations and 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.079 pay our respects to their elders past 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.960 present and emerging we extend that 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.039 respect to all aboriginal and torres 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.679 strait islander people 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:37.520 we are reminded that as councillors we 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.200 are bound by our open office to 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:40.960 undertake the duties of councillor and 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:42.719 best interests of the people of the city 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.799 of stonnington and to faithfully and 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:46.719 impartially carry out the functions 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:49.280 powers authorities and discretions 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.280 vested in us under the local government 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:55.359 act and any other relevant act 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:57.679 councillors we don't have any apologies 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:59.439 this evening we are all present which is 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.359 great so i'll move straight to 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:02.799 introductions 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.120 so on my right we have councillor kate 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.359 hely councillor from northward 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.920 councillor nicki batagol from south ward 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.879 councillor alexander lew from eastward 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:14.719 councillor marcia griffin from north 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:15.599 florida 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.480 councillor molina said from south ford 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:20.959 councillor matthew koce from northward 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.519 councillor mike scott from south florida 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.079 councillor polly morgan from esport and 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:28.239 i'm councillor jami klisaris eastwood 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.159 councillor and mayor of stonnington and 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.560 we have on my right the ceo jackie 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.159 weatherall who i will ask to please 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.719 introduce our staff thank you mayor to 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:38.560 my right we've got judy hogan civic 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.040 support officer tracy lincoln's chief 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.519 staff analyst statista director planning 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.239 in place julia hilachi secretary 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:47.920 financial officer 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.920 fred kirchio director of customer 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:52.560 technology liz daly acting director for 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.159 community well-being 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:56.079 vic quasic director for infrastructure 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:57.359 and environment 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.680 mr tony mcelroy 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.640 senior governance advisor and that's it 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.120 thank you ms weber councillors you move 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:06.640 to confirmation of the minutes we have 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:08.400 the minutes from the council meetings on 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:11.199 the 23rd and the 29th of november of 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.159 2021. can i please seek a mover of both 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:14.960 sets 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:16.479 councillor scott is there a second book 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:17.919 for that 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.240 council of bada gold council scott was 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:21.919 it with any changes or any comments to 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.759 make in relation to those do any other 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.280 counsellors have any queries or 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.360 questions on the minutes 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.919 no can i please seek a motion all those 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:31.039 in favor 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.120 of accepting the minutes that's carried 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.520 thank you councillors 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.199 conflicts of interest councils are there 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.039 any conflicts to disclose even 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.360 councillor griffin thank you mayor uh 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:44.319 yes with the albion street uh officer 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.240 recommendation because my system is in 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.000 that street thank you councillor griffin 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:49.360 and councillor 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.879 thank you madame item 8.1 56 57 and 58 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.560 quarter street quran as i live in 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.000 charles street which is the next street 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.080 over and there's a very high probability 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.360 i will see this development for my 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.039 property if it's to be approved thank 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.039 you councillors so you will both vacate 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:04.879 create respective items any other 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:06.879 conflicts to declare 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:08.400 thank you 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.240 uh i have seven questions from the 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.759 community i don't have any questions 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:13.199 that were submitted for tonight's 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.599 meeting so councillors we moved to 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:16.800 idahoad 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:18.400 our general business 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:19.840 so 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.240 item 8.9 the councillor said he's 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.120 leaving the room 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.680 and this is for 56 57 and 58 quarter 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.680 scripts koran 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:33.680 and i also note there is an alternative 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.000 recommendation but first i will ask is 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.319 there a mover of the officer's 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.800 paper 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.360 no okay so is there a mover of the 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:45.439 alternative recommendation thank you 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:46.960 councillor badagal and the secondary for 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:48.000 that 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.560 councillor scott thank you council 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:52.400 do i need to introduce it first or you 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.039 can okay um so the 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:56.800 this is basically just to read what the 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:00.960 changes are it's to delete um so a1a is 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:02.560 to delete one residential level from 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:04.639 within the podium and subsequently 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.719 reduce the height to a maximum of 33.8 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.520 meters about ground level 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.599 then it's to increase the floor heights 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.319 for ground level first floor to 3.55 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:15.199 meters 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:16.399 respectively 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.199 um or from from 3.554 and increase the 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.399 first level from 3.55 to 3.8 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.240 and the public space treatments must be 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:25.680 similar and are aligned to the pocket 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.040 park so the compliments of 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:33.680 so this is an application for a 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.680 mixed-use development comprising retail 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.160 office and residential uses it's located 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.000 in an activity center which encourages 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.839 development as a focus for business 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:45.360 shopping working housing leisure etc 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.000 in april 2019 a permit was issued for a 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.079 mixed-use nine-story development with an 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:52.639 overall height of 33.8 metres it had a 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:54.720 six-story podium to florida street and 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.279 the adjacent rock park it was intended 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.279 for commercial use including two food 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:00.720 and beverage premises on the ground 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.639 floor with eight stories of office for 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.000 above 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.519 and according to the report the extra 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.079 level was supported in 2019 as it was 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:09.519 for office use with a high degree of 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.120 ground level activation in the public 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:12.480 realm 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.519 this proposal is for a change and it 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.279 includes an 11 story so that's an 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:18.639 additional two stories which is 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.120 effectively 10 plus the rooftop area 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.160 it's got a height of 35.7 compared to 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.279 what was approved of 33.8 uh it has an 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.040 increase in public open space and it has 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.759 a change in use with the ground floor to 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.360 remain the student beverage with a small 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.800 office first floor office space and 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:36.480 floors turbine to become residential 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.240 with 51 partners it also has a seven 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.160 stroke radiation porter street 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:41.600 so after the consult meeting it was 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:42.800 really clear that there were concerns 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.319 relating to the increasing price that 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.079 was being asked and also the change in 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:47.279 use 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.040 the proposal exceeded the preferred 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.279 maximum height by approximately three 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:52.959 residential floors 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.000 we received 26 objections and since then 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:57.199 officers have worked with the applicant 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.040 to reduce the height equal to that which 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:00.879 was already approved 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.439 um but it was it was felt that this 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.040 could be achieved by reducing the water 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:06.639 ceiling apart from the lower floors and 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:08.240 also remove the communal roof structure 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.319 on the top this alternate recommendation 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:11.920 goes a little bit further than that it 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.279 actually ensures that the building part 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.120 still doesn't exceed the 33.8 that's 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.439 already been improved it removes one 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.120 level of residential which brings the 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:20.879 podium back to the six stories that's 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.560 been approved and it now actually falls 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.319 within the preferred podium height of 21 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:25.279 meters 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.279 it also aligns the podium to the 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:28.879 development of the northern interface 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:30.480 which is six stories 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:31.920 it brings the height of the ground floor 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.279 and the first floor back to the 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.639 preferred height clearances that are 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.199 outlined in a the activities zone 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.519 schedule one which provides flexibility 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.600 and adaptable internal layouts for easy 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:45.600 conversion should there be any change in 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.439 use at a later point in time 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:48.800 and finally it ensures that the public 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:50.800 opens open space integrates with pocket 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.399 park so that it looks and feels as if 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:53.920 it's connected without any perceived 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:55.279 barriers 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:56.959 so by removing one level of residential 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.040 from the podium level there will be less 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:00.720 apartments obviously which also means 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.560 that the shortfall and parking will be 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:03.920 slightly offset depending on which 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:05.839 apartments are removed 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:07.279 so the applicant according to this 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:08.639 recommendation is still getting nine 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.800 stories which is an extra level to the 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:12.879 eight stories which are preferred to the 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:14.639 built form requirements and they're also 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.319 getting a good rooftop terrace provided 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:17.839 they stay within the overall improved 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.000 height of their thirty three percent 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:21.600 so in summary it allows the applicant to 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.000 change the use of the site but it aligns 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:25.759 the site better with the intention 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:27.680 behind the design and it keeps it in 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:28.959 line with the preferred built form 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.480 guidelines which are everything to the 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:31.680 site 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.600 thank you council vargo councillor scott 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:34.800 that's the second bill would you like to 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:35.920 speak 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.240 not at this point okay i'll open it up 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.639 is there any commentary or questions on 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.959 these items 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.800 um thanks man i didn't really have much 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.639 more to add to what council medical has 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.600 already said my main concerns uh with 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.759 this uh application 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:57.839 have been addressed through the 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.079 alternate motion 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.879 specifically around the 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.920 the use of the pocket park and how 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.879 the applicant will be 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.600 ensuring that the land that is now made 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:14.959 available to the public uh has a very 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:17.040 consistent approach to it so that people 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.279 will see the proper park and use the 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.879 pogba park but also use the extended 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.920 public access area as one space rather 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.920 than two separate spaces 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.680 excellent okay council better goal 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:31.199 assuming you don't need to sum up great 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:32.480 we'll put it straight to the boat can i 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:33.840 see a show i can answer all those in 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:35.039 paper 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:36.559 that's carrie thank you councillors 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.320 let's get councillor back into the 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.840 chamber before we move on 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:44.919 [Music] 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.120 [Applause] 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.440 so we move to item 8.2 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.480 planning application at 873 dandenong 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.600 road modern east 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.600 i should ask are there any questions in 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.399 relation to this item 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.559 i'll second third purposes of debate 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.039 okay thank you councillor morgan 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:22.639 uh thank you mayor 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.240 this application 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:25.200 uh 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:26.240 is for 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.399 an apartment building that is between 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.240 two other sort of agreement story 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:32.480 apartment buildings of daniel road in 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:33.679 northern east 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:34.960 and 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:36.559 officers have 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:39.360 recommended um that this 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.360 apartment building be approved with many 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:43.759 conditions so i'll take most of the 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.480 report as read basically so people are 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.240 requested i'm assuming 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.480 what this would be for the i guess what 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.399 stands out about this apartment building 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:53.519 as 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.960 uh being perhaps a bit unusual and why 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:58.879 i've considered it's 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:00.960 uh reasonable to support it despite some 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.120 of the restrictions of the site 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.440 is that its intended uses as specialist 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.080 disability accommodation dwellings so 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.080 what's been proposed is to have 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:11.360 a 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.679 a ground office space and then have 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:15.759 another seventh floor so a total of 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.919 eight floors with a total of seven 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:21.200 apartments and these will be dedicated 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.279 and designed in a way to meet the 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:24.879 requirements for special disability 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:26.639 accommodations 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.799 this is perhaps why even though some 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.200 aspects of this building such as 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:32.960 the allocated car spaces that are 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.440 proposed don't meet the standards 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.600 uh there are issues with this building 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.480 that came up during the consultation on 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:41.840 the 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:43.279 materials that are potentially being 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:44.720 used because it's very narrow and wedged 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.440 western between two other apartments 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.000 one at 881 the apartments at aa1 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:51.840 residents are very concerned because of 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.159 loss of sunlight and 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.879 overshadowing however 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.080 when 00:10:58.159 --> 00:10:59.759 there are sort of white surveys and 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:01.679 shadows were done it showed that 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:04.000 actually almost all of the the loss of 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.000 overshadowing was already from the other 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.000 building and this is not going to 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.519 actually make a voice 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.759 one of the biggest uh concerns that were 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.480 raised by objectors was having really 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.320 high quality materials given the 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.240 narrowness of closeness of the buildings 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.879 to each other and what has happened is 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.360 after that consultation meeting officers 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.120 have actually created 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:25.840 a 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.080 more detailed and further recommendation 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:29.519 on this 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.679 as part of to add to this sport on this 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.840 application to cover this and it 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:35.679 basically reads as a schedule 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:37.679 construction materials external finishes 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.519 and colors including glazing to the 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.159 satisfaction of a responsible authority 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.639 uh must be included and materials must 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.799 be of a high quality as determined in 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:48.399 consultation with council's urban 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:49.519 designer 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:50.799 and i think that this is really 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:52.080 important because that was one of the 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:53.759 biggest concerns that were raised by 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.360 objectors 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.360 on balance although there are some 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.240 issues with this development it's more 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.480 what has already happened there which is 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.720 really out of scope for this decision 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.720 and this is not going to 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:08.000 i believe 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.080 significantly worsen the situation for 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:11.440 residents in terms of loss of bare 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.440 amenity and it will provided 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.320 provide needed accommodation for people 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.000 with disabilities within internet a 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:19.360 specialist level 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:21.039 although there's no 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:23.679 way to mandate the use as specialist 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:25.519 disability accommodation 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.000 with only seven apartments 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:29.679 uh i think five of them were single 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.240 girling and two were 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:33.679 two bedrooms 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.240 in a very narrow space in such a tall 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:37.840 building with a cost of it it's hard to 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:39.759 see how it could be commercially viable 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.000 to be used for anything other than the 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:43.440 intended purpose 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:45.759 and everything we've seen of what is 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.360 being planned is very consistent with 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.200 that use and 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:50.240 with 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.639 similar developments on even in the 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:53.840 neighboring buildings one and two 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.080 bedroom apartments 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:57.279 are not 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.440 relatively not expensive compared to 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:02.720 what fees will cost so it just doesn't 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:03.919 seem that it could be at all 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.879 commercially viable for anyone to build 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.200 seven apartments at the expense this 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.200 will cost and make any money off them if 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.039 they were going to use them as permanent 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.360 standard residential accommodations and 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:16.960 as such 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:19.600 the although there are concerns about 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:21.759 loss of car parking and 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.919 only having four car parks there for 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.279 those residents 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:26.799 it is certainly not the same sort of 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.480 issue as if it had been proposed for 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:29.919 standard residential accommodation where 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.840 i think for me that would be you know 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.519 certainly enough to say no development's 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.600 not suitable but for this use 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:36.960 it does 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.480 look to be 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.600 a very valid use and that it will 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.679 actually have more specialist 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:44.960 accommodation for people with 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.559 disabilities in southington which is 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.519 very important and i think that for any 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.120 kind of development in this area this is 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.720 really probably the best outcome we 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.039 could get 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.039 trying to put more apartments in there 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.600 for standard residential use 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.159 would actually seriously impact on 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:03.360 neighbouring residents because you would 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:04.559 need to put many more apartments in 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.080 there to make it commercially viable for 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:07.120 that use 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:08.799 so i think that this is a good 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.159 compromise and 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.080 i think that the accommodations that are 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.240 being made in terms of materials and the 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:15.600 feedback from residents of a process 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:17.600 where these need to be approved should 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.679 ameliorate most of the concerns that 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:21.120 objectives have 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:22.480 thank you thank you council morgan i 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.720 won't speak as the secondary i will open 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.480 it up are there any other questions or 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:30.399 comments in relation to this item 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:31.919 excellent all right well we don't need 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:33.440 to sum up so we'll move straight to the 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:34.960 vote can i see a show of hands for all 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:36.559 those in favor 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.639 carrie thank you councillors 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.799 item 8.3 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.440 planning amendment for 7-9 robinson 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.919 street param councillors are there any 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.799 questions on this 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:53.039 great is there a mover for this item 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:56.080 councillor scott is there a second girl 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.840 council about a golf 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.519 thank you may so um 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.919 the purpose of this uh 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:07.919 report is for council to consider a 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.440 planning amendment 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.759 for construction of buildings and works 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.080 which is in a commercial one zone 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.200 and a design and development overlay and 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:18.799 a reduction in the car parking 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.159 requirements associated with office use 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.519 at 79 robinson street the proposal seeks 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.600 to amend the existing planning permit 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.440 which allowed for construction of a 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.240 five-story mixed-use building to provide 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:33.360 offices 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.679 to all floors with associated changes to 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:36.799 the built form 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.200 layout and car parking provision 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.120 i'm supportive of this 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.759 officer recommendation and my 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.399 understanding is this proposal hasn't 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.559 already been through vcat and come back 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.679 to council with a slight change 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.360 moving from 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.200 residential to office 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:56.720 use 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.080 most of the 00:15:58.159 --> 00:15:59.440 complainants 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.639 or the main concern was around 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.919 amenity impacts to car parking and 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:07.200 traffic use 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.919 in the street it is a relatively narrow 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:13.679 street as are most streets in southward 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.919 and however my understanding is that 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:16.799 when 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:17.919 we 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.919 look at applications that are moving 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.960 from being residential to 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.559 mostly or in this case all office use 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.759 and we see a decrease in traffic and 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:31.039 parking 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.440 within the local area 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.440 when it's compared to residential 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.960 parking and traffic only um 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.639 so yes i put this 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.240 excellent thank you councillor scott 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:43.600 councillor battlebolt do you want to 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:45.279 speak on this 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:46.639 you know i think the only thing i'd add 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:47.840 is that 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.399 thank you is that the permit was issued 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:52.879 by bcash so and really it's it's very 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:54.639 little change it's minor changes to the 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:56.720 built form no increase in height a 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.879 slight increase in the podium 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.000 um 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.440 during the console the applicant walked 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.000 the objectives who were on call through 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:05.599 the revised plans 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.759 and they also had had a dedicated 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.920 session the night before for residents 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.079 of that next door building uh where they 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:13.279 really were talking it through that it 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.079 was about about changing use 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.640 and and as council scott said um 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:20.079 there were some concerns about the 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.839 changing nature of the street around 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.319 traffic movements uh some concern that 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:25.599 it's going from residential to 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.359 commercial but it's the nature of the 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.400 activity zone uh so it's 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.799 it 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.119 great i'll open it up any further 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.720 questions or comments on this one 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:40.160 all right councillor scott we need to 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.920 sum up our machine fantastic we'll put 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:43.279 it to the boat show of hands for all 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:44.559 those in favor 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.599 thank you councillors that's carried 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.680 we moved to item 8.4 planning 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.640 application at 77 repton road northern 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.559 east are there any questions on this 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.480 councillors 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.720 no can i seek a mover of this item 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.119 council 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.440 um thank you mayor look i'll be very 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:07.200 quick because we want to be quick 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.000 tonight um this is a 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:10.960 the 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.000 councillor should be aware of this um 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:18.400 development application it relates to a 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.880 heritage property which 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:22.720 we had some discussion about earlier in 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.079 the year 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:26.160 the applicant has resubmitted an 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.839 application which is now suitable to 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:31.440 council in that it keeps the facade 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:32.160 and 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:33.759 as a result of that the officers are 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.400 recommending acceptance 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:39.519 and i commend it to the council thank 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.480 you council lou councillor i'll keep it 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:44.400 brief there um but 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.160 the council lose summary of the whole 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:48.160 issue is excellent and there's been many 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.160 amendments to this including retaining 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.880 the hassan the facade and the front arm 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:53.920 heritage 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.240 aspect of the building there's also 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:58.319 provisions for increased landscaping and 00:18:58.400 --> 00:18:59.839 there's a significant tree on the 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:02.240 property that will be protected and so i 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:03.759 think that it is 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:04.640 a 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.039 very appropriate redevelopment given the 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:08.559 state of the building 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.640 in that the building did need 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.559 serious work it did need manual and 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:14.720 renovation but they've now got a design 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.400 that does preserve 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:18.079 the facade and their former heritage 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.680 character of the area and they've made 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.240 many provisions uh with the landscaping 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:23.680 they're doing the modifications they've 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.599 made to the original plants 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.279 fantastic thank you any further 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.200 questions or comments on this 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:30.640 great we'll put it straight to the vote 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.759 counselors all those in paper 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.519 thank you 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.359 that's it for planning so we move on to 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.240 our other items 8.5 state government 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.960 planning reforms council advocacy 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:44.960 are there any questions on this item 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:46.880 counsellors 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.759 no all right can i please second move up 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.200 thank you councillor healey and the 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.440 second up 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:54.960 councillor seth thank you council 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:56.880 healing thank you 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:58.799 um so it's really a continuation of the 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:00.400 conversation we've had a few times in 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:02.720 this chamber about how the community's 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:04.319 ability to shape 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.160 planning decisions has potentially been 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:07.359 loaded through 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.720 planning reform 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.000 um because the state's looking to 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:11.519 introduce new planning reform that could 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:13.119 lead to further removal of the 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.720 community's ability to shape local 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:16.799 planning decisions and reforms that 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:18.720 could remove a resident's ability to 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:20.319 meaningfully object to a development 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.559 next door or down the road so these 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.079 reforms could 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:25.839 ignore the desire of our communities and 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.440 the commitment of our councils to build 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.599 neighborhoods we want to be proud of 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:31.599 and i'm highly concerned about residence 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:33.359 rights being eroded progressively and 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:35.119 quietly by the state government through 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:36.960 these planning reforms under the valon 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.440 and some distractions covered 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.119 so i've said before that a neighbouring 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:42.799 former mayor of burundara recently 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:44.960 highlighted that over the last 24 years 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:46.640 each state government has introduced a 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.119 few new planning provisions 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:50.799 but this andrew state government has 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.359 introduced a third of all planning 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.039 provisions over the last 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.279 24 years in just over two and a half 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:58.720 years 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:00.880 and why because they have the power to 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.519 do so so we really need to make sure 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.079 that we continue to advocate for 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.400 third-party appeal rights for residents 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:09.839 that the community's voice remains 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:11.599 center stage and that the planning 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.279 system is transparent and helps to 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:14.960 strengthen local neighbourhoods and 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:16.319 economies 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.920 some of the concerns that are also 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.240 coming through is that 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.160 i've heard a lot from our planning team 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.319 about how there's great interaction that 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:26.079 officer to um 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.799 to delve level but we're not seeing this 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.720 into interaction of the elected 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:32.880 representatives of our community or the 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:35.039 communities input as well so we've heard 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:36.880 about non-disclosure agreements being 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.200 signed which honestly is quite a scary 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:40.400 phenomena 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.160 also there's a concern that the state 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.160 government is looking to offload all the 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:46.160 high effort and low reward tasks to 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.759 councils and that's a concern because 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:50.160 we're currently as we'll know in a rates 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:51.839 capped environment and can't expect the 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.440 council to keep doing more with less 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:58.240 however stonington is uniquely placed to 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.880 continue leadership on this issue um and 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:02.559 these anaesthetic areas have a unique 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.480 perspective on these reforms some of 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:06.400 these reforms may be okay for sort of 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.640 outer sort of rural regional areas but 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:10.319 for the metro areas we've got a unique 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.240 problem and we've got a collective way 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:13.759 of addressing that so this is really a 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:15.680 continuation this motion's about 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.319 continuation of the work um that was 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:19.839 started this year 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.160 and perhaps the planning reforms don't 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.680 sound like a particularly sexy thing to 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:25.839 even the newspapers etc but this is 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.119 something that our residents will be 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.039 really shocked about and dismayed about 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.279 if they have no voice to meaningfully 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:32.880 object to things that start going up 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:34.160 around them 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:35.920 and what's happening down the road so 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.759 this is really important motion for us 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.279 to continue the advocacy that we've 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:41.119 already started 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:42.960 well thank you councillor healey 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:44.000 councillor 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.079 um thank you madame um as you said 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:47.440 counselor healy has really covered the 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:49.200 key issues but this has been an agenda 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.680 of governments for a long long time 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.240 um you know there was a joke around 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:55.759 there for a while that the minister for 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:57.359 planning should have been re-titled the 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:59.039 minister for development because that's 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.880 really what was happening 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:02.799 and the fact is this is how the state 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.559 government raises its revenue it's 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:05.359 through 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.720 land taxes it's through stamp duties and 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:10.240 the more properties that can be built 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:12.079 the more stamp duty more sales and so 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.559 forth can be generated um this is going 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:16.720 to incredibly alarm our community when 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:18.000 they come to us 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.240 under development and find out they 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.839 can't object that their rights have been 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.039 eroded 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.359 uh we're going to be blamed for that 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.079 because we've seen it we've seen it with 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.640 um primary school developments where you 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:31.920 know and it's heartbreaking as an 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.759 elected representative 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:35.920 um and i've you know joined council 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.039 because of what was happening in the 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:38.720 planning 20 years ago and really 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.079 frustrated me 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.160 um and i'm you know i'm really dreading 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:43.599 those conversations that we're all going 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.519 to have to have with residents on issues 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:47.200 that are going to destroy their amenity 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:48.559 and there's nothing that they can do 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.640 about it 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.240 very true thank you 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.559 i'll open it up any further discussion 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.640 on these item counselors thank you 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.240 councillors we're really just supporting 00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.599 what both councils have said because 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:01.440 this is incredibly important and it 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.759 really worries me that residents are not 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.759 across what's happening which you 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.160 alluded to council healing and i think 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:09.920 we've got a responsibility not just to 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.480 advocate to state government but also to 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:14.799 advocate to our residents as to what's 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.720 potentially happening because they are 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.559 going to be very shocked 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:21.119 when they come across any further 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.960 increases in state government power and 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:24.880 planning so i think we've got that 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:26.880 double-edged responsibility to let our 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:28.480 residents know 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.440 that we consider this as very serious 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:32.640 thank you 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.000 any other comments councillors 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.400 councillor cars just so quickly i it 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:37.759 feels a bit like the state government's 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.359 trying to hijack planning away from 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:40.960 local communities 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:41.920 um 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.319 in the 90s that sort of behavior gave 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.039 rise to save our suburbs and it became a 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:48.720 front and center issue for more than two 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.880 decades saving our suburbs from over 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:52.799 development and it feels like we need to 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.240 go back to that you know having those 00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:56.960 save our suburb sort of mentality 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:58.880 protecting our local community from over 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.440 development we get so many residents 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:03.359 contact us as councillors complaining 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.119 about development and then there's 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:06.799 nothing we can do about it it ends up 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.119 going to vcat or the state minister 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.200 sometimes calls it in as well and it's 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.039 really concerning because the best 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:14.960 planning outcomes come from the local 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.720 community we saw what happened with 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:18.319 docklands it could have been much much 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.079 better than what it is if the city of 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:21.680 melbourne had had control of it all the 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.960 way through the state government 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.440 hijacked it and we've got a much lesser 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.359 outcome for the city of melbourne 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.200 forever and i just don't want to see 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:30.640 those mistakes repeated throughout 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:31.839 stonington and all the other 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.400 municipalities keep decision making with 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.319 the local community keep democracy as 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.559 close to the local community as you can 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.079 and that's that's where you get the best 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.079 outcomes local people know their local 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.240 area best and local government is the 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.319 government that is is closest to its 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.559 people so we really need to advocate as 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:50.720 hard as we can otherwise all the gains 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.319 we've had in previous years will just be 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.640 washed away and we'll see a sea of open 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.319 development again 00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.000 thank you councillor coast from anyone 00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:59.519 else like to speak on this council 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:01.359 morgan thank you matt i'll keep it 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.200 really brief because i agree with 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.039 everything that has already been said by 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:06.400 council but i think the other thing that 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.640 is worth highlighting in an environment 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.119 where the state government has put more 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.519 processes and and championed having more 00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.680 deliberative democracy 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.240 in local government then why are they 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:20.240 doing this now we are less than a year 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:21.119 away 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.279 from the fixed term election date for 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.279 the state government and they should be 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.359 honest and transparent and take this to 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.839 the community at an election 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:31.599 and then introduce it if they're 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.240 re-elected because then the people will 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:35.920 be aware of it it will be an election 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.359 issue and there will be full 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.039 transparency and they'll be getting 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:40.559 community feedback 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:43.279 to push this through now 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.279 just ahead of an election which is less 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.200 than 12 months away 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.279 is is really 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:50.640 inappropriate 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.720 and with all the other issues we're 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.799 facing as a community this is not going 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.960 to get coverage or attention 00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:58.319 and people will not realize what's 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.400 happened so they should be up front 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.000 and go to an election with this planning 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.559 changes and and have full transparency 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:07.519 to the community and if they're 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:08.720 re-elected maybe then there's a 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.160 justification for it because at least 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.559 people know and they've been consulted 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:13.759 and they've had a chance to have their 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.240 save the ballot box 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.440 beautifully said yeah thank you morgan 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.480 would anyone else like to speak on this 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.559 excellent so we've moved back to 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.079 councillor healey would you like to 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.400 summer um i think we're singing in 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.160 harmony with garbage and i don't think 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.839 we need to throw anything up and i'm 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.200 going to ask for a division just so it 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.200 being noted that it being unanimous 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:36.000 great 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.759 idea 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.000 so division has been called so all those 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:41.599 in favor please raise your hand and i 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:43.680 will call everyone's name out councillor 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:45.839 healy councillor babygirl councillor lou 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.599 councillor griffin councillor stay 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.519 councillor coast councillor scott castle 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.680 morgan and councillor casares 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.160 carried unanimously thank you 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.880 so we moved to itunes and councillor 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.559 griffin is leaving the room due to a 00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:59.920 conflict of interest 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.920 and so that's alpine street southgate 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.359 footpath accessibility 00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.440 councillors are there any questions on 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.599 this item 00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:11.759 no okay can i please see the mover 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:13.519 councillor coast and the secondary 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.440 that's the morgan councillor coast thank 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.279 you oh thanks man for those who don't 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.799 know welbian street it's actually a very 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:20.240 narrow street it's one of those little 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.079 cottage narrow streets that just runs 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.079 off punt road and the width of the 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.400 street is 8.9 meters so 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.559 it's very challenging to provide 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.160 footpaths that comply with modern 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.559 standards for disability accessibility 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.559 and also to provide car parking on both 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.319 sides of the streets and have enough 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:37.920 room for cars to travel down the middle 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.680 of the street between the parked cars as 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:40.480 well 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.559 so what's happened traditionally is that 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.400 council hasn't enforced 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.720 the parking lots for saying that street 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.880 have allowed cars to actually park with 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.119 one wheel on the footpath as long as 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.400 they leave sufficient room for a 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.799 pedestrian to get past and that way 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.240 there's enough room for parking on both 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:57.599 sides of the street and for a car to 00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.599 travel down the middle but 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.200 it's very challenging and it's not 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.279 disability compliant so there was a 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.880 complaint made to the disability 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.559 to the human rights commission 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:09.839 and 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.759 council had to respond because it was 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.400 basically non-compliant in terms of 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.039 safe accessibility for pedestrians 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.359 council initially was going to on the 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.440 recommendation of officers 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.440 do a staggered parking arrangement so 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.279 there'd be compliance 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:26.799 councillors had a different view to the 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.240 offices and they said no we want to 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:29.920 consult with the local community before 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.839 any decision is made we think we might 00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:33.920 be able to get a more optimal outcome if 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.839 we consult with the community they often 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.759 have really good ideas and suggestions 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.000 so that is what happened there were two 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.079 consultations there was one on the 19th 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.799 of august and there was one on the 21st 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:46.559 of october as well 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.640 the 19th of august one was really an 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.640 opportunity for everyone to meet on zoom 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:52.240 hear from offices about what was being 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.359 proposed the rationale behind it and a 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.920 lot of it is is contained in in point 43 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.079 of this report which is the obligations 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.960 to comply with oz roads um australian 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.039 standards for parking facilities on 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.759 street victorian road safety rules act 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.160 and also the australian stands past part 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:11.839 one and two for design and access and 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.400 mobility and um council sort of 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.640 explained its position why it had to act 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.200 and the community expressed very clearly 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.440 that look there was concern over 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.400 disability over um over pedestrian 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.240 accessibility there was concern over 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.559 safety someone had been injured on the 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.119 street hit by a car um and there were 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.359 people in wheelchairs um in that street 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.960 who'd actually been beaten when they 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.039 were going down the roadway because they 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:38.319 couldn't use the footpath it was 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.319 extremely distressing so there was an 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:41.839 acknowledgement there was a problem but 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:42.960 there was 00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:45.440 a lack of clarity about the solution 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.519 under the staggered parking arrangement 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.079 only 66 of car parking will be retained 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:51.839 and car parking is at a premium in that 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.079 area so look um 00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:55.839 his team went away they did some more 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:57.119 thinking they actually did a really 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.599 detailed engineering study looking meter 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.000 by meter the widths and they worked out 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.240 a solution to go forward which was a 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.039 non-compliant footpath on one side and a 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.839 compliant footpath on the other side so 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.599 what we're looking at tonight is a 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.319 proposal for a 1.2 metre footpath width 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.279 on the north side which is is compliant 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:18.920 and we're looking at a 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.160 0.7 meter width or less 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.880 on the south side which is non-compliant 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.559 but that allows the current parking 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.799 arrangements to remain in place so you 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.599 get a really good compromised solution 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.680 a lot of the design work is being done 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:35.759 will be completed soon in financial year 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.680 21 2022 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.000 and the construction is planned to take 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.799 place financial year 2022-23 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.839 it'll take place at quite a cost 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.960 it's about 470 to 490k 00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.920 for the bill 24k for the design we're 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.440 going to do that rather than do 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:54.960 maintenance work on the street so we'll 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.880 roll it all into doing a complete 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.680 redesign work and the local residents 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:01.200 will end up with a much better outcome 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.400 what they have today it'll be much 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.480 better street planning the footpaths 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.319 will be compliant look beautiful the 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:08.319 road will be redone it should be a 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.880 fantastic outcome that meets everybody's 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.279 needs and should act as a template going 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.279 forward for other narrow streets across 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.920 north and southward and elsewhere 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:18.960 um 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:20.319 and also you know it'll allow for 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:21.920 parking on either side and plenty of 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.920 room three metres or more in the middle 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.079 for cars to actually um go down the 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.559 center of the road so look it's a really 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.000 good compromise the second meeting we 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.839 had on the 21st of the 10th we actually 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.000 put forward the the proposal there was 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.799 very strong support for it and so let's 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.960 proceed with this 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:39.839 and 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:41.440 get a really good outcome for the local 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:43.680 area they've been surveyed as well and 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.440 there was a much stronger support for 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.599 the reconstruction as compared to the to 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:49.519 the staggered parking 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.759 thank you councillor coast council 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.680 morgan would you like to speak oh thank 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.319 you man i'll speak um 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.319 this this proposal has been quite 00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.440 fraught and there's been a lot of 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.599 tension and stress in the community but 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.039 it's worth going back to why it's 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.039 happened in the first place because if 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:06.799 people sort of think about the cost and 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.559 what's being 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.400 suggested it it could sound that it's 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:11.680 unreasonable but it's actually really 00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:12.960 necessary 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.640 this street has 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.359 genuine safety issues it is very 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.599 concerning the state of the street 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.359 when there are 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.279 cars parked on the street at the moment 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.119 if they're large suvs 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:25.839 or 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.279 large sedans 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.200 at certain pinch points in the street 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:30.720 fire trucks can't get down the street 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.480 other emergency vehicles can't get down 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.960 the street so there's genuine safety 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.039 issues with this street there's traffic 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.039 coming straight off punt road 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:40.240 and 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:41.839 pedestrians are having to walk down the 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.400 street as council coast mentioned very 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.160 people who've been injured one woman had 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.839 to go to hospital it was a few years ago 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.079 but she was hit by a car when she was 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.400 forced onto the street i've visited the 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.400 street many times 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.079 there are huge issues 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:57.680 for people with wheelchairs and 00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:59.279 depending on what type of wheelchair you 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.079 have 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.519 you will not be able to get down the 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.119 street at certain points 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:04.319 there are people who haven't been able 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.200 to get out of their home because there 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.599 are cars parked up on the curb and 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.519 blocking pedestrian access which is what 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:12.880 the issue is 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.079 it's a 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.800 a really serious issue now what was 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.360 originally proposed and because of the 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.280 formal complaint that council 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.199 you know received from a resident of a 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.960 well not a resident but a person who is 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.519 affected by this um someone who's using 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:28.639 the street 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.880 uh they also went to the human rights 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.800 commission it's a disability access 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.719 issue here as well 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.800 stated parking was originally 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.719 proposed to us and both myself and 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.039 councillor lou in dude moved a deferral 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:42.880 to look for other solutions and to 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.960 consult more with the community and one 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.360 of the issues was in kobe 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.639 it was very difficult to get a 00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:50.400 structural survey done to look at where 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.000 all the pinch points and find that this 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.320 other solution was available and council 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:55.599 officers had to get permission for the 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.880 state government because we were in a 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.400 state full lockdown 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.480 so hence the delay there 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.480 but what they have come up with is a 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.280 much better alternative static parking 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.119 was going to reduce the amount of 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.880 on-street parking by 16 spaces 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.920 and it was also going to result in a 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.400 loss of nine trees which is more than 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.000 half a trees on the street currently 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.559 it would fix the disability access 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.119 issues and that was very important 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.760 however the solution by reconstructing 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:29.280 the street which would need to happen in 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.679 the future anyway as part of our renewal 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:33.519 cycles or roads 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.920 uh is is a better outcome in the long 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:37.440 term and what we're doing is we're 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.119 bringing that work forward so although 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:40.800 there is a cost eventually council would 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.119 need to reconstruct the street in the 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.119 future anyway 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:46.800 and what this will do is it will mean 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.519 we'll have a fully compliant path on one 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:50.480 side 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.679 we'll have uh pinch points um 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.280 where we can't have parking can i just 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.119 cause you there can you just ask for 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:58.800 another minute oh sorry yes i'll ask for 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.440 another okay 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.599 sorry thank you for that appreciate it 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.400 um and uh i missed the bells right 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.480 um but yet the uh 00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.480 what what has uh 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.159 what has happened is is that with this 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.239 street with um there are some pinch 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.199 points where with the 1.2 meter footpath 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.280 uh there will be um there won't be space 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.559 for a car space but we could have more 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.400 birch planting more tree plantings 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.480 plantings and also some potentially some 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.800 spaces to put the bins because all the 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.159 bins on the road still block the 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:29.920 footpath no matter how wide it is and 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.039 it's very difficult to manage 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:32.639 development through the street and the 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.320 disability access too 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.599 finally although the south side is not 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.519 a compliant footpath it's very narrowing 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:41.519 points what will happen is they will 00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.760 reconstruct around the entrances to 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.239 properties so people with wheelchairs 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.800 mobility issues can actually access all 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.119 the properties on the street and i'll 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.159 also rebuild some of the curves that um 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.000 do not have cram crossings currently 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.280 which would also 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.360 need to be done i wanted to acknowledge 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.280 uh some residents had suggested that we 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.039 go to staggered parking until we 00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.199 reconstruct the street however that's 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.400 disruptive 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.440 and we'll um you know cause some expense 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:10.800 and disruption anyway and then we're 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.639 just going to do this anyway so i think 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.239 this is the right solution for the 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.079 street in the long term thank you thank 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.000 you council morgan 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.159 opened it up for discussion any further 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.000 comments on this council is council 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:23.760 healing thank you 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.840 um i think again i just have to say 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.679 congratulations to officers for being 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.920 able to find this outcome after quite a 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.519 fort 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:32.960 period 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.880 i think it's really pertinent that we've 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:36.639 got an engagement policy that we're 00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.840 discussing later on in tonight's meeting 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.199 because i think one of the learnings 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.119 that i had from it was 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.440 really understanding their expectations 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.880 of community as far as what kind of 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.960 engagement they wanted 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:50.800 and this is something that we're 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.440 evolving our understanding of as well 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.599 um so i acknowledge that for those 00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:57.519 residents that this was a very difficult 00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:58.719 process 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.000 i'm really glad that we got to the 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.159 outcome that we did and that's fantastic 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:03.360 but i think we're also going to take 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.079 away some learnings as far as other um 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.079 how to interact with them and to ask 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.599 your feedback in the right way at the 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.360 right time 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:12.880 thank you council 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.480 any other comments on this country 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.800 counselor thank you matt one very small 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.079 point to add because everything's been 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:19.920 covered beautifully is that just because 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.360 we're doing this to albion street 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.800 doesn't mean we're doing it to all of 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.639 the narrow streets across domington and 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.480 there has been some information shared 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.480 by our emails and facebook and other 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.159 other means and nano and southpaw we've 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.480 certainly received a lot of 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.400 emails from residents saying are you 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.320 going to do this to us too so it'll be 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.079 done on a case-by-case basis but this 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:39.440 was a really really good outcome for 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.119 albion street and that's really all 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.599 we're looking at at the moment 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.199 very important point to make thank you 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.880 councillor balagol any other comments 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.039 excellent we'll go back to 00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.880 council coast would you like to summer 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.000 yeah just very quickly i think 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:55.760 everyone's made really good points and 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:57.519 in particular councillor beta goal you 00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.119 know where informal arrangements are in 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:00.480 place and they're working you know i 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:01.760 think they should be retained we 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:03.920 wouldn't change them in this instance it 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.840 was a clear you know public interest 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.119 reason 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:08.719 for change 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.039 it was was a genuine reason that there 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.960 was accessibility issues for people on 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.239 serious accessibility issues and also 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.239 as councilor morgan said emergency 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:19.679 vehicles often couldn't get down the 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:20.719 street 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.239 we had someone rushed to the alfred 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:23.840 hospital because they were hit in that 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.840 road because of the situation they 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:27.920 couldn't use the footpath so it was a 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.920 serious matter it had to be dealt with 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.760 officers needed to respond quickly given 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.119 it went to the human rights commissioner 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.559 so they acted professionally and 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.400 appropriately all the way through and 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.079 councils were able to show some 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:39.920 discretion in terms of taking it through 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.239 to further consultation we're just 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:43.920 really fortunate in this instance we're 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.440 able to get a win-win for everyone we're 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.199 able to get a really good outcome 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.639 sometimes that's not possible but on 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.960 this occasion we could and you know it's 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.639 expensive that people pay their rates 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.320 and they'll get a really good long-term 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:55.599 outcome from that investment we're 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.760 making in the street and just like to 00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:59.440 thank um the residents for their 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.039 engagement the officers for all their 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:02.639 work and all my council colleagues as 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.559 well for engaging on this issue we're 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.840 able to get a really good outcome on 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.000 this one i can't wait to see the project 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:09.599 concluded 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.679 thank you councillor coast 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.119 so councillors can i please see your 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.840 shoulders a division has been called so 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:17.920 all those in favor 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.559 councillors healey badagul lou 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.960 coast scott morgan and cyrus that's 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:24.480 carried unanimously well done 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.000 counsellors and to all the officers who 00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:28.320 have been heavily involved in that 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.320 so we'll just wait until councillor 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.880 griffin comes back into the chamber 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.480 before we move on to item 8.7 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:40.960 welcome back councillor griffin so we 00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.280 moved to the central park john landy 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.679 oval lighting project are there any 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.559 questions for these item counselors 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.000 no i please seek a mover 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.519 councillor morgan and the secondary 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.119 thank you council battlegoal council 00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:58.480 morgan 00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.840 thank you matt this is a basically a 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:03.840 project to 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.880 put lighting around john landiogle both 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.760 to allow extended use for sports during 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:11.440 potentially after consultation on the 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:14.639 final hours on weeknights and also to 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.599 have passive lighting to allow 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.280 recreational use of people who might 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.039 just be walking in the park or 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.360 exercising jogging that sort of thing 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:26.559 it's gone out to community consultation 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.400 where there was extensive support for 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.760 moving to this 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.360 the lights itself 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.440 really have been studied and they're not 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.320 going to impact beyond 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.920 what you would get from street lighting 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.920 on the neighboring road so the impact on 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.079 residents is minimal and there's been 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.800 consideration of what's appropriate 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.880 in terms of 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:48.800 how many nights should be used for sport 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.880 and they're keeping it clear for weekday 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.199 of weeknights sorry weekend nights in 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.280 the evening and only used for 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.519 weeknights for sport it's not going to 00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:58.800 go very late 00:41:58.880 --> 00:41:59.679 and 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.159 it will allow much bigger use of the 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.119 park central park is a hugely loved and 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.079 popular park in eastward and i know that 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:09.760 some residents from outside of eastward 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.880 also do use it it's been 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.239 really important to people in eastward 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.920 to have central park and being able to 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.719 use it more during cobed when council 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.519 with restrictions did you know in other 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.760 parks have been able to extend lights 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.360 we've seen that too so it makes sense to 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.360 look at whether this is worth doing in 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.039 such a popular park it's been 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.280 overflowing with people and it's 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.920 continued to see heavy use it might i 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.599 don't know what stats we have on 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.280 popularity of parks but it's clearly one 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.039 of the most popular parks at least in 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.679 eastwood if not all of sunnington it's a 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.760 beautiful park and much treasured of 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.039 value by a whole community and allowing 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.360 more use of it while not 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.360 negatively in any significant way 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.000 impacting on neighbours and residents of 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.719 that area is a really good thing for our 00:42:58.800 --> 00:42:59.920 community 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.920 and so i think that i'd urge your 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.679 council is to support this 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.920 because it will allow more use of this 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.320 path there will be more consultation on 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.920 the final hours and how exactly it's 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.000 going to work with the community but we 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.400 can get we're going to get some funding 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.159 for this as well as a grant so it's 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.400 really a very low cost investment in 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:19.760 what is a wonderful asset for the 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.960 community 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.639 well so thank you councillor morgan 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:23.679 councillor 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.519 secretary would you like to speak thank 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.119 you mayor um 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.039 this has had really extensive community 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.880 consultation and we'll let you can 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.480 actually see some of the results of that 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.400 later on when we talk about 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:35.920 communication and engagement within our 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.519 community so there has been really 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.599 extensive engagement there's been 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.079 extensive participation and what i 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:43.199 really like about the way that these 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:44.639 results have come back to us is a 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.400 different differentiates between 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.400 recreational users and sporting users 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:49.760 because if we actually just ask 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.599 everybody the same question the results 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.079 get a little bit mixed up and so by by 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:55.599 creating that differentiation we can 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:57.199 actually see that overwhelmingly there 00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.519 is support for this obviously as you 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.280 would expect more support from sporting 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.039 clubs but there is still strong support 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.559 for the resident from the residence as 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.079 well and i was just looking at the 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.920 report it said that the park survey 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.000 review conducted in 2019 had central 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.079 park as the most visited and regularly 00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.199 used park within the municipality so 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:16.800 very very strong 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.360 support very strongly used park but i 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:20.800 think there's another important point as 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.800 well which is that 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:24.880 the design of the timing and the use has 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.559 been created but it's going to go back 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.559 to the community for final feedback to 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.559 firm up the days and the times for use 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.920 before it actually comes back through 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.599 council so we're actually just proving 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.920 the next step excellent that's right 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.599 thank you councilman any further 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.599 comments on this one councillor griffin 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.599 may i just see this as a total win-win 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.480 it's maximizing our space it's the 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.800 residents are happy the sports users are 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.679 happy people will feel safer and it's a 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.000 fabulous park so to know that it will 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:53.920 get even more use is great i think this 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.159 is just a very good outcome 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.599 absolutely thank you anyone else 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.199 all right council morgan did you want to 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:02.239 sum up 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:03.280 um 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.119 uh thank you mayor i think that really 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.119 what the speakers have said covers it 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.000 all except that to just reiterate to uh 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.079 people who may be watching that there 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:13.760 will be further consultation on the 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.239 exact uh hours and usage and how this 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.599 will work but 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.679 this is what this is really going to do 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:21.519 is allow better use and improve the 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.159 safety and amenity of the park and allow 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.119 more people to use it for longer 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.800 thank you councilman morgan i'll put it 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.280 to the vote all those in favor shawl 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.360 carriage thank you councillors 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.159 let's move to item 8.8 the volunteer 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.480 support framework the first right to 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:39.920 seeking the mover for this one is the 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.760 remover for this councilor griffin and 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:42.639 mrs 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.119 thank you council scott council griffin 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:46.559 thank you well this has been something 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:48.079 i've been very passionate about for a 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.400 long time so i'm very happy to speak to 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.039 it because i think volunteering 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.119 is absolutely a critical part of 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:57.599 recovery from the covered isolation that 00:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.119 we've gone through 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.360 but also as more and more people retire 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.679 and our population ages which is what's 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.559 happening our people are looking for 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.880 something local where they feel they can 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.880 contribute to the community and it's 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:12.559 interesting just last week i had someone 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.400 ring me and say i've just i've just 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.719 closed down my business after 36 years 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.400 martial what can i do 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.559 so i'm often asked this question what 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.719 can i do in stonington so i'm really 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.079 delighted about this proposal 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:27.840 that we're going to facilitate a 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.000 networking forum for community groups 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.239 and organizations as peer support and 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:34.880 local collaboration opportunity promote 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.360 the benefits of volunteering which is so 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.039 important 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.119 build a volunteering hub of information 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:42.480 which was one of the things i was 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:44.320 passionate about because as this woman 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.519 said well 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.079 where do i go to find out information 00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:49.840 so i'd like to think that we have on our 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.079 website a fantastic 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.400 hub of information 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:56.159 where it's easy to connect with 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.079 organizations in our city because we've 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.000 got some fantastic organizations and 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.519 we've all done some volunteering and we 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.079 know how rewarding it is particularly uh 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.559 councillor scott those breakfasts 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.559 at seven a.m in the middle of winter 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.400 we've all done some of that and it's 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.639 it's an amazing thing to do are you 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.840 offering i knew i could again um 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.840 so i really just want to support this i 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:19.679 don't want to go into the details about 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.920 the consultation it was all done as per 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.000 our normal very efficient consultation 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.360 process and there was great support for 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.840 having council not get overly involved 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.760 but become a link 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:33.840 a network centre for people looking for 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.480 volunteering and for those organisations 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.320 very importantly looking for volunteers 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.039 so i commend this to you 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:42.719 thank you councillor griffin council 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:44.159 scott 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.440 thank you man 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.280 i'd like to start off by congratulating 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:48.960 council officers 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:49.920 um 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.239 and the community covert recovery 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.360 committee 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.239 for developing uh this proposal or this 00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.960 suggestion that's come to us tonight um 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.840 it came about to support organizations 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.000 who have struggled to retain and also 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.639 recruit new volunteers 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:08.639 and as councillor griffin said as a 00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.360 volunteer myself and also 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.599 where i work in spaces of 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.360 recruiting volunteers i know the 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.760 benefits that volunteering has for 00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:19.039 people 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.199 and also the benefits that it brings to 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.039 our broader community as well it's not 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:24.960 just about social isolation but 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.079 connection 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.239 um that sense of giving back there's a 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.639 whole range of reasons why people 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.119 need to or should choose to volunteer 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.920 and i think having a process in place 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.320 that's available to people through our 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.000 council is 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.320 a wonderful way of recognising and 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.960 celebrating our volunteers 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.400 we also know that volunteer-run 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:48.320 organizations need support 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.000 through training in areas such as 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.079 governance and recruitment 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.480 and this proposal aims to meet the needs 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:57.119 of volunteers and the organizations they 00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:58.559 support 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.800 thank 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.840 on deciding you healy thank you um just 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.920 concurring with with council government 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.679 council scott that really volunteering 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.519 is an important part of building 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.400 stronger and healthier communities 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:13.199 and 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.559 when i got to meet some of the 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.079 volunteers from the volunteer roles they 00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.400 also said the same thing that you know i 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.239 get more out of volunteering than i put 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.679 into it 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.519 i feel like people understand the 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.440 benefits of volunteering but in talking 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.039 to volunteer organisations they're 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.360 really struggling at the moment to find 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.320 the right people to help them 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.000 and it's really impacting their ability 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.480 to help our community so for instance i 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.000 heard today about how 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:39.920 an organisation like central park play 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.519 group which had been around for 40 years 00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.440 set to close because they didn't have 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.440 enough volunteers 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.360 so we all know that volunteering is 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.519 great and that's important but we're 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:51.039 really struggling at the moment to get 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.519 people in a post-cold environment still 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.239 in private environment to to sign up and 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.880 to keep going and even because of the 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.719 covet environment having volunteers 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:02.719 having to stop working that day etc 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.480 because they've come across close 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.159 contact etc so all these things are 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:07.360 compounding 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.519 issues that um that volunteering's got 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:10.800 within our community even though we know 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:12.400 it's really important though one of the 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.000 great things about this office 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.480 recommendation as well is that 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:18.480 officers went in with a few hypotheses 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.719 about what the outcome could be 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.000 and then what they've actually presented 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.199 to us is quite different to their 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.519 hypotheses so i think that's a good 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.159 indication of again how we're listening 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.320 um we're going in with some theories but 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.159 we're being very open to what our 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:33.679 community is telling us in order to come 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.639 up with what the final recommendation is 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:38.400 and i see this again as another layering 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.480 of the work that officers have done to 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.679 build um our uh the sense of importance 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.199 of volunteering with stollington so 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.719 we've got volunteer awards we're going 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.840 to be doing more in volunteer work um so 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.679 this is all really good but 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.760 again we just need to do more to realize 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:55.280 that at the moment volunteering is a 00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.280 really difficult area that needs a lot 00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.360 of love and support 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.199 thank you councillor any further 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:02.719 comments 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:04.880 counselor thank you man i won't repeat 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:06.880 anything that's already said because 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.719 it's been covered very beautifully but i 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:10.320 i just there's a few points which is 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:11.599 that we have so much talent in our 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.440 community and we have so many incredible 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.840 volunteer organizations and just to 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.760 create that match can be difficult and 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.280 so if council can play a role in 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:20.639 creating that match i think that we're 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.159 going to create some magic and the 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.800 communities can benefit as a result 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.480 i also know probably involved in a 00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.719 number of volunteer based organizations 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.960 that capacity building is really really 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:32.719 challenging as well because all of the 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:33.920 money has to be 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:35.440 services so sometimes you don't actually 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.119 put the money towards building capacity 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:38.800 building capability so this 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:40.480 recommendation i really like too because 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.199 it's council playing a role in in peer 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.280 support and working together and 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.280 building that capacity and capability 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:48.800 and the third part i really like about 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:50.960 this is that it's going to give us an 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:52.800 opportunity opportunity to share and 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:54.400 promote the incredible work that our 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:55.519 community does and we're going to be 00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:57.280 telling their stories and we're going to 00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.199 be highlighting and 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.039 putting putting these great stories and 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.320 giving them the 00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.400 promotion that they thoroughly deserve 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.800 so and interestingly it's not my option 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:08.480 that i wanted but it's actually the 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.880 right option so when i came in here with 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:12.320 an idea when the three options were 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.480 presented and i had my view and we've 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.239 gone out and tested it and and the 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:17.519 community has actually come back with 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:19.199 something better so it's actually it's 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:20.880 one of those really interesting times 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:22.159 when you listen to the community and you 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:23.760 get you get a good result a better 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:25.039 result 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:26.800 okay 00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.519 in the other comments 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.360 council griffin would you like to sum up 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.079 about five words thank you because the 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.599 thing about volunteering is it's not 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.760 just for older people who have closed 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.480 their businesses or you know out of the 00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:42.960 employment area it's also for young 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.199 people it's an amazing pathway to 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:46.400 employment 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.480 and i know having looked at so many cvs 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:49.920 over the years when i've seen young 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.639 people who've volunteered they've always 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.719 have a little step up above 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:56.960 those who don't have any volunteer work 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.599 on their cv so you know i'm really 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:01.280 encouraging of this and i'm excited 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:02.800 about what council is going to do to 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.199 bring the organisations and volunteers 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.760 together thanks man fantastic thank you 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.440 councillors so we'll proceed to the vote 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:11.679 all those in favor show of hands 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:13.519 carrie thank you 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.880 and we move to item 8.9 community grants 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.079 21 22 quick response and request for 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:21.599 variation 00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.840 um given the nature of this i will see 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:25.840 if there are any questions for this item 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.360 first 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.760 all right we'll go straight to a move if 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.400 they're moving for this 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.239 thank you council battagal in a second 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:36.159 up 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.840 thank you councillor griffin councillor 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:39.119 balco 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:40.559 uh i won't talk very much to this 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.559 because it really is a small approval 00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:44.400 for a small grant and a recommendation 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.400 from the offices and it's all very 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.719 clearly written out in the in the report 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.440 news thank you council better goal 00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:52.960 thanks mayor look this is really for a 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.679 few hundred dollars and i agree with uh 00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.159 we want the meeting to move on i think 00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:59.599 we just should accept the council 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:01.920 officers report on this excellent it is 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.320 pretty administrative in nature um well 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.679 councillors are learning i prefer the 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.159 comments on this one 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.039 i'll go 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.480 so now we move to item eight 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.800 point ten the cobia recovery fund the 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.119 recommended expenditure 00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:24.719 again due to the nature of the item 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.119 first i will ask other questions to 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.679 officers on this 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.360 great all right is there a mover 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.480 thank you councillor healy for reminding 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.079 so there's no mover for the white so 00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.239 that lapses the alternative 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.400 is requested by council between the 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.079 council healey who would like to move 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:46.880 that 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.480 account for healy and councillor driven 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.400 to second council really can you begin 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.079 just by letting us know what the change 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.559 is sure so this is just an addition to 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:56.239 the office recommendation so the office 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:57.920 of recommendation i'll talk about as 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.639 well so it's approving a drawdown 160 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:02.960 000 against the remaining covert 00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.599 recovery fund budget 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.320 and the remaining budget will be 00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.480 about six hundred thousand dollars an 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:13.199 update on initiatives um and knowing 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:14.960 that the covered 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.800 environment continues to evolve and will 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:18.320 consider new things the only thing that 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.559 we've added is that we will note that 00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.000 officers will bring back reports to 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.559 councils in the second half of 2022 that 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:26.239 will evaluate the return on investment 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.599 of the proposed marketing campaign 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:30.880 thank you 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:31.840 so 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.639 essentially this is um again a 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.679 continuation of the covert recovery um 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.719 fund which we um set out in our in our 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.440 current budget um this is a and it's 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:44.880 really about making sure we keep 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.719 investing in our communities resilience 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.119 so this is in addition to the existing 00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:50.880 recovery programs that we already have 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.800 underway which include a waiver of 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.400 almost six hundred thousand dollars in 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.639 permits and fees for businesses we've 00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:58.880 got youth programs a headspace pop-up 00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.920 family programs and a nighttime economy 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.519 support program 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.320 but what this also does is adds 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.760 a marketing campaign worth 150 000 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.079 to stimulate local economy so that's 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:13.440 really looking to attract people to 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.159 stillington's retail shopping precincts 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.760 and further initiatives to support 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.920 outdoor dining and training programs so 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:20.960 overall 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.559 festival and event programming and 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.199 exciting new place based 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.199 activations and again this alternate 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:28.880 recommendation is just making sure we're 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:30.719 looking at what the return on investment 00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:33.039 for that marketing campaign is 00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:34.960 the second part of it is also that we've 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.119 got a twenty thousand dollar volunteer 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.239 program um which we just talked about um 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.320 in the last promotion um two motions ago 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.639 so that's about capably building events 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:46.320 networking forums and skills development 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.320 so that's fantastic i think it's all 00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:50.960 united in the importance of volunteering 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.320 um but i think 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.239 what's worthwhile putting out is that 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.960 this is just we one of many ways that we 00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.599 as a council are looking to help build 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:00.880 resilience 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.280 coming through and out of covert so 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.199 we're also working with 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.480 m9 which is the metro nine councils to 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.480 collectively advocate to stay federal 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.400 government for initiatives to help our 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.320 community recover from the covert and 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.320 particularly in regard to 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.800 community safety and mental health 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.880 um and while i was in the m9 within 00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:22.639 stonington along with economic 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:24.639 development this is a key area of focus 00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.480 i want to see addressed and the two 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:28.480 really clearly intertime because 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.119 community resilience positively impacts 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.800 the community's ability for economic 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.199 development so essentially this is again 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.119 about how we're continuing to listen to 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.440 our community to understand how we can 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.760 support them to recover and then thrive 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.000 post impacts of coben 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:45.599 excellent thank you councillor healey 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:47.199 councillor griffin that's the second job 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.199 uh just a few words councillor healey's 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.280 covered this very extensively but just 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.320 within context council agreed to 1.89 00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.039 million in its recovery program 00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:58.559 and uh 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.360 of that 1.89 million uh there is a 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.239 balance now of 757 000 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.480 uh the crown market has benefited 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.719 traders have benefited we've had some 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.199 fantastic concessions for footpath 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:13.199 training permits health registrations 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.199 traded directional signage i won't go 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.800 through the whole lot 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.039 but what we're talking about tonight is 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.840 as councillor he said 150 000 from 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.559 marketing campaign and as she and i know 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.239 from our marketing backgrounds you could 00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:27.599 always there's never enough money for 00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:28.639 marketing 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.960 uh and marketing to get people back into 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:32.480 the city we could of course spend a 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.400 fortune but we also know with marketing 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:36.400 campaigns that you need to measure 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.519 outcomes 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.639 otherwise money is simply wasted so that 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.840 was our purpose behind this yellow 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:45.519 and as you mentioned twenty thousand 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.440 dollars for volunteering so i commend 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.199 this to you 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:50.719 thank you councillor griffin we'll open 00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:52.719 it up any further discussion on deciding 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.360 councillors 00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.039 all right councilman did you need to 00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.039 sign up excellent we'll put it straight 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:00.719 to the vote all those in favor show of 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:01.840 hands 00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:04.159 thank you councillors that's carrie so 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.559 we move to it item 8.11 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:11.920 fy2241 september 21 council financial 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:13.119 report 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:14.960 um first i will ask are there any 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.960 questions to 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.320 this officers 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.880 no so move straight to the motion can i 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.559 please seek a mover 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:29.360 that's the group that we've got to work 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.119 out tonight is there a second guy thank 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:32.880 you 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:34.639 thank you council morgan councillor 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:35.920 griffin 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.239 thank you mayor um 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.800 look scalachias always puts together 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.119 really clear figures but there is one 00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:45.360 tiny error in this paper and i don't 00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:46.960 like pointing out a tiny error but i'm 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.119 sure people will see it when they get to 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:49.840 it 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.280 the operating income is 5.17 unfavorable 00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:54.719 not favorable we've already had that 00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:56.000 conversation 00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.159 but this is really an update on what is 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.599 happening financially in the council 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:03.599 and i'll just read a couple of things 01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:05.119 from it without 01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.519 going too far into it this is for the 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.760 period ending the 30th september which 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.639 is projecting a full year surplus of 25 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:14.480 million 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.360 which is 7 million unfavorable compared 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.199 to the budget which was intended to be 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.280 33 million and of course we all know 01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.679 we've had a loss of income due to 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.559 parking all sorts of reasons so that 01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.400 explains that 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.239 the financial report for the period 30 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:32.880 of september is projecting an adjusted 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:35.920 surplus of 2.96 million 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:39.039 which is also unfavorable to the budget 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.800 for the reasons that i've just mentioned 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:44.400 we should note that the council has 01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.800 recently noted was notified by the state 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.599 government of an additional 1.57 million 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.360 in funding from the victorian government 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.199 which is great news 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.039 and of course the council expects to 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.199 continue to meet the victoria auditor 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.559 general's financial sustainability low 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.280 risk requirements so we will have a 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.440 slightly lower surplus and if that is to 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:06.880 be expected i don't think there's an 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.880 organizational business in victoria that 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.119 wouldn't have that but we are still 01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:14.800 looking very sustainable very positive 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.199 um and we certainly have a good group on 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.760 figures thank you mr lunch 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.079 well thank you councillor griffin 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.039 council morgan do 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.719 green has done an excellent job of 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.039 summarizing this and uh just i think 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.199 there'll be no fad perhaps relative to 01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.039 some other organizations council is 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:46.559 still doing very well 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.039 and we're meeting all our 01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:50.800 victorian audience general office 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.360 financial sustainability requirements to 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.039 keep um 01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:57.840 being classified as being low risk um in 01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.000 the medium to long term thank you thank 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.000 you councillor griffin uh sorry 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.679 councilman morgan council griffin no 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.440 need to sum up no thank you straight to 01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.760 the vote all those in favor sharp hands 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.679 excellent carried thank you councillors 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.880 item 8.12 engagement policy the 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.719 six-month review 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.960 um i'll move straight to the motion for 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:19.360 this one so councillors are there is 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:21.679 there a room for this 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.119 thank you councillor badabal and the 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.199 second up thank you councillor healey 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:26.719 councillor 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:28.239 thank you man i think this has come back 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.159 because of me actually because i created 01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:31.760 an alternate recommendation six months 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:33.199 ago when we developed the engagement 01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:34.880 policy and said i'd like there to be a 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.719 review process so 01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:38.800 i'll be on the appropriate those doesn't 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:40.159 mean there's 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:41.920 i think this is great for there's been 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.719 internal workshops with 100 participants 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:46.719 there's been external surveys with 01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.119 external responses as well and you can 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.199 see all the different uh findings from a 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.280 few of the reports with some very very 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.840 tiny minor changes to the policy and 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:57.679 what it shows us is the policy actually 01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.360 has set the standard for engagement so 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:00.400 that's great 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.239 but what's really wonderful about this 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:03.760 is the operational initiatives that have 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.519 come through from the view and the and 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.440 the improvements and the changes that 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:09.199 are going to happen and sometimes you 01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:10.639 have to stop 01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:12.639 reflect and look back in order to 01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:14.239 actually do a better job looking 01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:15.679 forwards and i think that's exactly what 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.320 this one does so there's there's some 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.079 really great initiatives uh about 01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:21.840 creating uh internal community of 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.159 practice where our teams are going to 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.400 talk together and receive ongoing 01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:28.239 training uh regardless of whether 01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.719 they're in the comms engagement team or 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.880 in any any one of our departments that's 01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:34.559 actually engaging directly with our 01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:36.239 residents or great place which is which 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:37.760 is many of our staff 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.000 we've got toolkits being developed we've 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:42.559 got changes to the way we do newsletters 01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.119 to our community we've got some pop-up 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:46.159 and face-to-face engagement 01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:47.199 opportunities that we're going to look 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.000 at for targeted projects 01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.079 and we're also going to do closing the 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.159 loop after engagement and i think that's 01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.400 actually really critical is we go and we 01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.639 ask our community what they think 01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:00.079 we build a recommendation we come up 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.320 with an idea we decide and we implement 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.000 it but we don't always go back and close 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:05.599 the loop so so i think that's actually 01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:07.519 really exciting as well 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:08.800 and 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:10.000 by implementing all of these 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:11.360 improvements we're only going to get 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:12.800 better outcomes for our communities so 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.960 it's very exciting thank you councilman 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:16.239 councillor healey 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.320 do you want to see it thank you 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.639 um so again like council better goals 01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:22.320 saying that this is almost like part of 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.000 what we have to do but at the same time 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.079 it's now our community expects us to do 01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:27.840 and it's how we're going to start we'll 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:29.599 continue to make 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.840 better decisions so i think people just 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.239 have a generally a greater expectation 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:35.920 for engagement for their voice to be 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.159 heard and treated like it matters and 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.480 this is true of all areas of business 01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.239 and in politics 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:44.800 it's something that i feel um really 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.719 strongly about because i have a research 01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.760 background as well but um in my 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.400 campaign brochure i talked about how i 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:54.079 wanted to make sure new ways to 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.239 encourage better participation council 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.000 decisions um and it's one of those 01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:58.960 things where you're going yeah that's 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:00.400 all gonna champion and then get into 01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.000 council and go oh they're already doing 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:03.519 it that's great 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.599 this is about encouraging it to to keep 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.000 on happening um and as council battagal 01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.480 said as well i can already see 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.119 an internal change as far as how council 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.719 is um 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.119 uh working and the way that even i went 01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.039 to harold holtpool and there was a big 01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.280 thing on the wall saying 01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:23.039 something about being customer-centric 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:25.360 and so there again you see 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.079 the demonstration of how all areas of 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.400 the business of council as an 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.920 organisation are starting to think about 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.840 how we can better engage with with our 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:35.760 community so i see that as a really 01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:37.599 positive sign 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.239 when we think externally about how our 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:41.840 community engages with us i think we 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.400 still got a long way to go i think that 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.320 people don't yet realize that they can 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.639 engage with us and it was really wanting 01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.119 to hear from them so i think it's a big 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:52.960 slower cultural change that will happen 01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.280 over time as people realize that that 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.519 they can give us their opinion and that 01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:58.800 there are certain engagement 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.039 opportunities and so forth so i think 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:02.400 that will take time we've got a 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.320 fantastic 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:06.719 simulation tool on our upcoming budget 01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:08.559 that's available online right now you 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:09.760 can check it out 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:11.760 which again is a wonderful way we're 01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:13.679 inviting and encouraging people to give 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:15.199 feedback on something that we know is 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.880 really important to them 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.119 um so basically it's just going to 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:21.039 continue to help us make better 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:23.199 decisions i think one of the suggestions 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:24.880 that i've given to staff this week as 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.400 well is that 01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.159 that we can do even better with closing 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.000 the loop um and potentially on the 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.559 connect stongton site demonstrate post 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:34.559 engagement that this is what people said 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:35.679 because we get this in our reports 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.679 anyway this is what the people said and 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:39.360 now this is what we've done in response 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.280 to what you've told us and that's part 01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:44.079 of really valuing what people have 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:45.920 people have given us their time to give 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.840 us their opinion and we're respecting 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.119 that opinion by telling them the 01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:51.280 decision contained as a result of it 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.679 so thank you thank you councillor healy 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:55.760 we'll open it up any further discussion 01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:00.000 on the engagement policy counsellors 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.559 thank you mayor i think um this policy 01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.079 is fantastic i think it's great that it 01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:05.760 came back for a review 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.199 i think it's going to 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.840 open the floodgates and there will be as 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.719 councillor haley said a demand almost a 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.119 demand from our community now that they 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:19.840 participate in many decisions i only had 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.159 a phone call on the weekend someone not 01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:24.239 so happy about our christmas decorations 01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:25.599 who wants to know how she can get 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.199 involved in making sure next year's 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:28.639 christmas decorations are much better 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.239 than what we currently have 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.400 i said we'll hold this space but i think 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.079 even tonight we've seen through albion 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.119 street through the uh covert recovery 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.920 response committee that our community 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.599 wants to be involved they do want to 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:42.719 have 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.960 a space and a place to be heard 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.639 and we know that there is always more 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:50.320 opportunities for engagement to take 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:51.199 place 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:52.800 now that we're coming out of covert i'm 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:54.960 very hopeful that as councillors we'll 01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:56.800 be able to get out there and meet and 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.760 greet our community out on the street um 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.599 at the front of wherever it might be at 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:03.760 france where what have you to listen and 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.360 hear what they have to say i think 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.679 that's another element that we need to 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.000 consider as part of this policy which i 01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.079 think is in there too so i totally 01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:13.519 endorse this 01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.039 thank you council scott would anyone 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:16.800 else like to speak on this 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:18.960 um just to say look engagement is 01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.199 absolutely critical and it's also the 01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:22.880 hardest thing we have to do in a way we 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:25.119 have a very large diverse community 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.199 they're very poor they're live so we 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.680 have to find ways to effectively 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.159 efficiently and simply connect with them 01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:34.239 and get their opinions back it's a it's 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:35.920 a huge challenge it's an ongoing 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.000 challenge but i think this council is 01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:40.159 showing that it is really keen to hear 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.159 from people and for me that is 01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.600 absolutely key as council laws and as a 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.399 council so well done to you asking for 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.199 some changes and review that's good 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.520 thank you thank you councillor griffin 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.239 any other discussion 01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:57.840 all right council about a goal would you 01:08:57.920 --> 01:08:59.920 like to sum up no i think we're all on 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.359 the same page with this so we'll put it 01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:02.880 straight to the vote by show of hands 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:04.960 can i see all those in favor 01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:07.119 that's carried thank you 01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:08.600 we moved to item 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:12.079 8.13 procurement policy 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.000 so given the nature of this item i will 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.760 see if there are any questions to 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.000 officers councillor scott 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.239 thank you mayor i just want to bring up 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.319 my notes 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:23.840 i recall that at the briefing we were 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:25.760 talking about this policy coming back 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:27.359 within six months 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.920 and i thought when i could be wrong that 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.199 we were going to add that in as a 01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:34.279 recommendation 01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.800 to say that we'll be bringing the um 01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:42.560 procurement policy back for council 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.039 consideration in six months so council 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.920 scott mara suggests you move it as a 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:49.199 procedure 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.600 after your questions thank you 01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.880 any other questions on this item 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:56.720 okay so council scott would you like to 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:58.560 move it with that amendment as in his 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.159 weather all very well 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.159 absolutely thank you mayor it's a minor 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:04.960 amendment so 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:06.720 um 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.399 did you want to say it again for our 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.680 minutes takers it's just that the um new 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.760 procurement policy will be 01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.319 brought back in six months 01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:20.239 to review its performance 01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:26.159 is there a secondary for that motion 01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.720 councillors councillor says so regarded 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.680 the debate thank you scott 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.680 thank you mayor so i support this 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.159 procurement policy um 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.000 as it stands at the moment especially 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:39.199 given that it's going to come back in 01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:41.600 six months i did have some concerns with 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.279 regard to the focus around 01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.199 our climate emergency response and how 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:49.199 we support our climate emergency action 01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:52.800 plan goals in meaningful ways 01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:55.680 and i'm talking with regard to 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.119 areas that i believe are currently 01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:58.880 undercooked so i'm glad this is going to 01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:00.880 come back within six months because it 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.119 will help us go back and review what 01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:04.800 we're doing 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:06.159 in terms of 01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.079 as a couple of examples reducing our 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.479 environmental impact 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:12.880 through our purchasing activity and 01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.359 influencing our supply chains 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:16.319 i think 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.880 we can do more in regard to encouraging 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:20.560 suppliers to commit to recycling 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.239 programs 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:24.800 i think that we can engage with 01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:26.720 suppliers that are accredited carbon 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:27.920 neutral 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.479 i think that there is 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.800 an opportunity for us to commit to 01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.279 working with suppliers who use materials 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.520 that have low levels of carbon dioxide 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.880 emissions such as recycled concrete 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:42.159 i think that there 01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:43.680 are other opportunities around 01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.640 supporting a safe and fair workplace 01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:48.640 including recognizing equality and 01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.119 diversity children's safety 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.680 observing core labor standards and 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:58.000 ensuring fair work conditions 01:11:58.079 --> 01:11:59.680 thank you councillor scott councillor 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.920 sarah's the secretary 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.319 nothing to as a matter now 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:05.840 excellent all right we'll open it up for 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.560 discussion counselor healey 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:11.439 um i there's a couple of things of this 01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:13.760 policy that i think are fantastic to 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.760 highlight one of them is definitely the 01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:17.520 collaborative nature of how it's 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:19.119 developed so it was developed 01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:20.800 collaboratively by the southeast 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.359 regional human excellence network 01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:24.880 that are mouthful but um 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:26.079 [Music] 01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:28.000 what that enables is that we're working 01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:30.560 together to form a best practice 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.560 way of working with all these different 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.159 councils so i think that's fantastic to 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:35.760 see that happening 01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:37.680 because obviously it's more efficient 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:39.439 and it makes sure that we we do reach 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.960 that um 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.319 best class um and then as council scott 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.399 talked about that this is great because 01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:48.720 it's also putting sustainably 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.199 sustainability and social is responsible 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:52.640 procurement 01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:54.640 into our procurement policy but also 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:56.880 supporting local economies 01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.399 because that was something that our 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:00.800 local traders asked overtly for us to 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.279 consider so it's really fantastic that 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:04.960 we can see that happening within here as 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:05.760 well 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.600 um there's lots of really fantastic i 01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:08.880 mean i never thought that i'd say this 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:10.239 there's lots of really fantastic things 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:12.640 about this procurement process 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.760 but there really are and even the sense 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:17.039 that 01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:18.720 there's an integration of a supplier 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.640 code of conduct which maybe can address 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:21.840 some of the things that council scott's 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.239 talking about potentially down the road 01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:26.239 because i think when we have suppliers 01:13:26.319 --> 01:13:27.680 that we're utilizing they're really 01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.079 representing us as a council 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:31.359 so we need to make sure that their 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.199 behaviours and their ways of working 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.039 match with what our expectations are as 01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:36.239 well so 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:38.640 um i think just congratulations to the 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:40.720 team that worked on this um you know i 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:42.000 think it should be good to see what it 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:43.920 comes what we'll come back with in six 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.000 months time but this is really positive 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.840 moving forward excellent thank you 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.600 councillor healey any other discussion 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:52.000 on this item counselors 01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.399 counselor scott would you like to sum up 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:56.000 nothing to add great we'll go straight 01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:57.520 to the vote show of hands always in 01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:58.640 favor 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.359 that's carrie thank you councillors 01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:06.720 item 8.14 flag protocol 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.439 can i please speak a mover 01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.439 question oh sorry 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.840 councillor griffin question thank you um 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:15.760 and i guess it's to mrs limpens my 01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:17.920 question was living does this i note 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:19.520 that the recommendation states that 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.680 there was no requirement for community 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.199 consultations 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:25.359 given that the protocol mostly 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.640 replicates government guidelines 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:30.800 i'm just i'm focusing on that word 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.119 mostly so what part of the proposed 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:35.600 protocol is outside of government 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:37.359 guidelines 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:40.479 ah thank you madam mayor through you 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.359 councillor griffin the protocol sets out 01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:45.520 for the government days the australian 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.000 cloud is flowing um the areas of 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.239 difference within this protocol that is 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:52.800 at council's discretion is in relation 01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:54.880 to flag flying with the flags that 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.760 commemorate local community members and 01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:01.840 to recognize lgbt i'm sorry i'll get my 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.439 letters in my order lgbtqia 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.000 plus france they're the only two areas 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:10.239 that are at the discretionary 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:12.000 thank you 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:14.319 any further questions counsellors before 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:16.479 we go to the motion 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:18.720 so council morgan to move and the second 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:20.960 up 01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:24.079 thank you councillor keeley councillor 01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.960 morgan ah thank you for you matt i 01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.640 wanted to just uh give a little bit of 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.479 background to this flag protocol and why 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.399 it's come back to council uh one of the 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.000 primary reasons 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:36.159 this has uh come back to council it's 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:37.680 really administrative is it's 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:39.760 implementing a decision 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.439 of council to fly the appropriate flags 01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.159 on lgbt iot 01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.319 be 01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:50.640 a plus days 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:52.560 including uh 01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:54.479 the international day against um 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.600 homophobia biphobia and transphobia 01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.319 we're at purple day uh mid-summer 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.279 festival and on a trans visibility day 01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:05.039 and a trans 01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:08.640 uh remembrance days and our council uh 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.680 unanimously with all councillors present 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:13.039 supported this 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.199 uh after a meeting or at the meeting on 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.239 february 15th 2021 earlier this year 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:21.039 that we do fly the appropriate flats 01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:23.279 on these days and all councillors 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.039 president herald councillors unanimously 01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:26.640 supported that notice of motion that was 01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:29.439 brought by council spot myself and 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:30.800 council hosts 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:32.720 so that's the main reason the other 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.279 thing to address is that we have had 01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:38.239 requests for um from community members 01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.760 to potentially fly flags at half-mast 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.840 and we didn't have a clear protocol on 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.319 this and it just led to some confusion 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:48.960 earlier this year and so in order to 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:51.680 clarify what council's policies would be 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:54.000 the amount of notice we might need 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:55.439 to then 01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:57.680 uh check that that's an appropriate 01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.640 request to be made and in line with 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.800 what we would want to do to recognize 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.319 perhaps a community member who have 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:07.119 passed away or some other reason that a 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.119 community member might make 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.039 a request to do that that we have really 01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:13.680 clear guidelines and a pro poll in place 01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:15.680 so it just is becomes an administrative 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.840 function of council and there's no 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:20.960 confusion or lack of clarity over what 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.279 requests will be approved or or what 01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.239 might be approved and that's based on 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:27.600 earlier 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.880 issues in the year and it's about making 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:32.880 sure that we're also transparent to the 01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:34.560 community and that 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:36.239 there might be very good reasons to 01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:38.720 perhaps uh honor someone 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.800 if needed if um 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:42.640 if there's a request from a community or 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:44.560 recognize a 01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.720 an unusual or important community event 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.880 and this allows us to do so and it 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:50.479 allows the ceo to make a decision on 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:51.680 that basis 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:53.119 thank you 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:54.880 thank you council morgan councillor 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:56.399 healey is the second would you like to 01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.279 speak thank you um 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.039 i never thought that flags would be such 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.039 a major part of 01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:06.479 council but they they sort of are and um 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.439 and when you think about flags as i've 01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.199 thought about a bit this year a flag 01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:13.439 really represents this idea or an ideal 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:15.680 it's neither like a a mere piece of 01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:17.840 decoration or this item to be honored 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:19.840 unto itself it's honored for what it 01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.239 represents and flags are held in high 01:18:22.319 --> 01:18:24.000 esteem for their history for the 01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:26.159 sacrifices made by people for the 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:28.239 qualities of which people stand for and 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.000 their giving of respect 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:31.760 and we now have a flag policy which 01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:34.640 includes many flags and many days to 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:36.479 acknowledge respect and remember the 01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:38.640 values that we have as a community 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:41.680 and when i hear emotional debate about a 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:43.840 new flag to be introduced or an existing 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.760 flag to be lowered 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:47.600 i feel that what i'm actually hearing is 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.079 debate about the evolving morals and 01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:52.000 values of a community 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:53.439 and i see that debate is a really 01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:54.800 positive thing 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.279 so while this is our flag policy for 01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:58.319 today 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.960 i do expect that we will keep evolving 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.359 over time as we respond to the evolving 01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:06.319 ideals and values of our community 01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.239 thank you healing will open it up for 01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:09.359 discussion 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:11.520 any comments on the slime counselors 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:14.239 thank you yeah um and i must have been 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.239 in attendance on that day 01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:18.720 uh however i guess it can also change 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:20.319 your mind as a counsellor and when i 01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:22.399 look at the detail of this 01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:24.399 i do change my mind and i can't support 01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:27.039 this policy because i believe that flags 01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:30.000 can either unite us or divide us 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:31.920 i believe that the council flag brings 01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.640 us together as a community the victorian 01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:36.800 flag the state flag brings us together 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:38.960 as victorians and the australian flag 01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.199 brings us together as australians and 01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:43.279 the aboriginal flag is a flag of respect 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.520 for our first people 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:48.159 i believe identity politics causes 01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.560 exclusion not inclusion 01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:52.880 inclusion is a key part of our council 01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:54.239 plan 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:56.239 a flag reminds us of the things that 01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:58.239 bring us together 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.319 and i think the things that bind us 01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:02.319 together are more important than the 01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.399 things that divide us 01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.239 my primary school experience was such 01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.079 that every monday morning in this tiny 01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:10.159 school with 20 students in six classes 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:11.680 we raised the flag and we sang the 01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:13.760 national anthem and there was an amazing 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.920 sense of pride being in australia 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.720 regardless of where those 20 kids came 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:19.520 from 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:21.920 or you know what they did or anything 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.119 about their lives it was a very uniting 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:28.079 experience so i don't want to see this 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.479 breakdown of flags 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:32.079 and you know i know yarrow council was 01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:33.920 flying the a flag and that caused 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.119 enormous discussion and disharmony in in 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:39.359 the district in the uh city 01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:41.920 um i think united we can celebrate 01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:43.119 diversity 01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:45.439 united as a community 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:47.279 and i can't support this proposal and 01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.039 i'm sorry if i seem to have changed my 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:51.039 mind but that's where i stand on this 01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:53.199 proposal at the moment 01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.520 thank you council griffin any further 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:57.680 discussion councillors 01:20:57.760 --> 01:20:59.680 councillor 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:01.760 thank you madam matt um there's one 01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:03.600 thing that i really like about this flag 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:05.760 protocol and i like that we haven't 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:06.880 followed 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:07.840 the 01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:10.159 unpatriotic call of senator lydia 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:12.319 thought to fly our flags at half-mast on 01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:13.520 australia day 01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:15.600 so to the extent that this flag protocol 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:18.560 celebrates or cements australia day as a 01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:20.399 day of celebration where our flags will 01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:23.600 be flying high it represents 01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:25.199 it represents the views of the 01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:26.960 mainstream members of the scottish 01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:29.439 community 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.000 however 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:34.079 i agree with councillor griffin that 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.800 this flag policy is too divisive and as 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:39.199 i've said before it represents a 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:41.600 takeover of this council by the green 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:43.039 left 01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:44.479 there are only three flags that should 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.640 be flown on our civic buildings the 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.960 australian flag the victorian flag and 01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:50.800 the stonington flag 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:52.640 if our traditional owners had a standard 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:54.640 i'd support flying but that's not what 01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.399 the aboriginal flag designed in 1971 is 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:00.079 flags were brought to this country by 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:02.640 white settlement in fact i can think of 01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.199 nothing more colonialist than the flying 01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:07.840 on the flag the first flag that was ever 01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:10.399 flown in this country was the union jack 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.640 put up by the british 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:14.399 now that's not necessarily a bad thing 01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.439 madam mayor because we've got a very 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:19.279 we've got a very proud history and we've 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:21.600 got a history in this country we're a 01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:23.760 great country we're a free country and 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:25.840 our flags remind us of that 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:27.680 with the rainbow flag the transgender 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:29.520 flag they're not universal they 01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:31.520 represent a subculture 01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:33.520 and they represent a particular group 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.119 they have their place and they have 01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:37.359 their time but that's not on our civic 01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:39.600 buildings 01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:41.600 our community as we see in our national 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.760 anthem is a community that is one and 01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:45.039 free 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:46.960 unlike other parts of the world we've 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:48.880 never been plagued by tribalism and 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.279 civil war 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:52.720 but 01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:54.640 we start to wander down this path and 01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:56.880 it's a destructive path towards identity 01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:58.960 politics we're not a community of 01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:01.600 separate life of separate tribes our 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.239 flags on our civil civic buildings must 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:06.319 represent all of us each and every one 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:09.680 of us every day every day of the year 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:11.840 um nobody should look up 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.680 should walk past their 01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.159 um their town hall and see a flag and 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:19.279 say that's not my flag 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.600 so we need to have flags that unite us 01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:23.760 um and because of that i'm 01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:26.159 going to vote against this protocol 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:27.840 thank you councillor lou 01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:30.399 any further comments counselors 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.239 i'm going to move the procedural motion 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.760 i think this is as as um 01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.760 councillor hillary said i didn't realize 01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:39.840 this would be so divisive 01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:41.920 um so i'd like to 01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:44.319 move to uh deferral to next year so that 01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:46.880 we can actually look at this properly 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:48.720 and try and reach a common ground for 01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:49.840 councils because i don't want a 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:51.439 situation over the next three years 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.319 every time a flag goes up it creates 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.039 it creates a situation in the chamber 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.039 with different views 01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:00.399 we have had a lot of discussion and 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:02.079 there was a notice of motion so i don't 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:03.760 think anyone's questioning getting out 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:05.199 of discussion 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:06.479 did you still well i'm not comfortable 01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:09.600 to vote on it um 01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:12.720 to come back when 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.199 when we council resumes next year 01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:16.479 happy for it to be the first thing i've 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.159 been generating there i don't know why 01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:19.520 what's the rush 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:21.039 i know there's been a lot of discussion 01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:23.359 about it but tonight sorry 01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:25.840 there's the community pride is in the 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:27.920 morning because yeah emotion and you 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.640 will get it sorry 01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:32.560 then is there a specific issue is there 01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.239 a specific reason to raise the flag 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.159 between now and then 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:38.079 yes well i'm happy 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.399 for for that to occur 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:43.600 um but the actual adoption of the actual 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.159 protocol the council to discuss this 01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:48.399 more fully in the new year so i 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:49.760 certainly don't want to miss out on an 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.920 occasion where flag needs to be raised 01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.399 over the next six weeks 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:56.560 while counseling some recess 01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.079 but um but the actual pro protocol 01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.000 itself let's get it right because if 01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:03.359 someone would be debating this i just 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:04.800 didn't realize it would be so 01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:07.439 contentious 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:09.199 yes 01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:11.119 and the reason i want to second this is 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:12.479 um we just 01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:14.560 spoke about deliberative engagement at 01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:15.359 length 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:17.520 and um it feels to me that we probably 01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:19.039 haven't gone through that deliberative 01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:21.279 engagement process sufficiently it 01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:23.439 wasn't at briefing i don't remember this 01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.439 discussion having taken place to this 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:28.079 extent so it's come as new 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:29.760 new debate to me i haven't heard that 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:31.600 perspective that council or griffin had 01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:33.439 made so i'm willing to support a 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.279 deferral um 01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:36.880 if it has the numbers 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:38.000 in a second 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:39.680 all right so council's on the table is a 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:42.079 deferral and to the first council 01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:46.079 meeting of 2022 which i believe 01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:48.399 is the sixth of february um 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:51.279 so we will debate the deferral 01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:52.159 um 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:55.359 however madam mayor as a as part of 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.399 this was administering promotion then 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.159 maybe move that 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:01.840 i don't want to miss out on an event 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:03.119 that needs to be acknowledged with the 01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:04.960 flag racing in the meantime so i'm sort 01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:08.640 of how do we deal with that given 01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:12.640 yes the australian day would just be as 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:15.760 we already do yeah um council morgan's 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.079 mentioned the 13th of february but then 01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.119 there is the 31st of march which is for 01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:23.680 annual transgender visibility today and 01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.079 pride i think is in by the end of 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:27.920 january february norway it was only in 01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:30.960 may because of covered yeah so it might 01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:33.279 be back in february again 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:37.039 and it's not actually on the table in 01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:44.880 it's called the melbourne pride do we 01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:47.600 know what date that is 23rd of may 01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:50.319 no that was this year only okay 01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:52.720 sorry 01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:55.119 oh you have a council resolution for 01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:57.279 those dates all right i believe that was 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:03.000 the most emotion so i think regardless 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.920 yeah it's a good point yeah yeah 01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.399 so we need to debate the deferral um we 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:11.920 need to keep the views around the table 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.640 on that um so maybe just so i'm clear 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.199 don't hear correctly that that any 01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:18.960 events that happen between now and when 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:20.960 this matter comes back in relation to 01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:22.640 transgender that we will be raising the 01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:24.000 flag we've got that signed off is that 01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:25.039 correct 01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:27.199 right so that's not going to impact 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:28.880 those events council more than you have 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.760 you read that we will have debate on our 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:33.760 okay all right so we'll open it up for a 01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:35.680 discussion councillor morgan just to 01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.039 just just a bit 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.239 yeah um i really respect um 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:42.239 uh councillors there and council coaches 01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.199 intentions in seeking a deferral 01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:47.439 um however i 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.159 um and i'm really glad that um 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:52.720 the motion that we all agreed to in 01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.479 february earlier in the year will mean 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.840 that the flags will be flown on 01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.319 appropriate community days until we've 01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.039 had further engagement or consultation 01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.439 or deferral discussion on this issue 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.600 however i'm i'm voting against deferral 01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:07.760 motion because this 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:09.199 um 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:11.600 you know involves uh 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.199 recognizing members of our community 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:15.680 have often faced a lot of discrimination 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:16.479 and 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.880 prejudice and we saw 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:20.560 even though we didn't move for instance 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:21.840 in a marriage equality debate to 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:23.279 supporting marriage equality that was a 01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:24.800 huge amount of homophobia and 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.359 transphobia directed at the community 01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:28.800 and i think that given we've had a 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:30.319 unanimous 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:32.720 support for this policy previously 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:34.960 that most councillors um i think with 01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:36.880 the exception of council griffin and 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.119 councillor who um i think didn't respond 01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:40.880 but there was a rainbow pledge during 01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:42.640 the election campaign and 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:44.239 i believe every other council here 01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.239 including council who had signed on to 01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:47.039 that 01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:49.520 um pledge that also called for 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.840 flags to be flown as part of a package 01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:53.119 to address 01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:55.199 the discrimination and ongoing 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:57.680 lack of inclusion that is occurring 01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:59.840 affecting a significant number of 01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:01.600 residents in our community 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:03.680 um that to further have more 01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.600 consultation and debate 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:07.039 really under something that was very 01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:09.279 important and very powerful to uh 01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:11.760 important part of our community 01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:13.760 and potentially subjects members of our 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:15.600 community to more homophobia and 01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:17.680 transphobia because these debates do 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:20.079 generate this and particularly for 01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:22.319 lgbtiq youth 01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:25.119 to um have this occur in our community 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:26.640 i'm quite concerned about the impact and 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:28.079 i know that's not what's intended by 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.560 anyone here at this table and everyone 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:31.920 is putting forward 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.279 um very sincerely health views on on 01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:37.119 this issue and no one wants that to 01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:38.800 happen but i am concerned by it so i 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:40.319 would prefer to 01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:42.640 decide this um today if possible but i 01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:44.079 do understand why it's been moved and 01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:45.840 respect the intent behind moving it and 01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.000 even uh councillors who have changed 01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:50.000 their view on this i do not think that 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:51.520 they are in any way 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:52.319 uh 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:53.760 trying to have this happen or will 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.079 appropriate but this is what does happen 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.560 in circumstances quite uh routinely 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.840 unfortunately in our community 01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:03.600 thank you councillor morgan any other 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.600 discussion on the referrals 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:07.760 just on discussion really uh you know i 01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:09.840 did ask that question that about the 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:12.159 protocol mostly conforming to government 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:13.439 policy and that's why i asked the 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.239 question what was outside of that um and 01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.399 it seems to me that really we should be 01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.640 consulting with our community 01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:22.000 there are a lot of people who feel 01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.159 prejudiced and 01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:25.119 feel 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:27.039 outside a community and not fully 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:29.119 engaged with the community 01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.840 not just people with gender differences 01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:32.720 so 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:35.119 i just wonder if we really should uh 01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:36.560 consult with our community this is 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:38.399 really quite an important matter flags 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:40.720 matter flags are a simple i think they 01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:42.479 should be a symbol immunity 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:43.840 and i think there should be a symbol of 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.680 one community so that's where i come 01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:47.199 from 01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:49.680 are we discussing the deferral or are we 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:52.800 discussing our opinion i know i'm just 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:54.560 actually discussing a deferral because 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:56.880 i'm thinking the deferral might even be 01:30:56.960 --> 01:30:57.920 longer 01:30:58.000 --> 01:30:59.760 if we actually consult with our 01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:01.520 community that's sorry council scott 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.439 that's where i was coming from okay 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:05.119 thank you councillor uh thank you 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:06.399 councillor griffith i saw councillor 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:07.760 heal his hand first i'll come to you 01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:09.520 councillor luke thank you councillor 01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:10.960 healey 01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:12.079 thank you 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.079 i don't feel like we have a need to 01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.880 defer this i think the policy sensible 01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:18.079 is in line with the prime minister 01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:19.840 notion that we don't need to be 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:21.039 unanimous 01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:22.800 and i also 01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:24.640 keep hearing the feedback that council 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:26.960 morgan has about the impact of 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:31.199 prolonging this for the lgbtiq community 01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:33.039 thank you councillor healey councillor 01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.680 lou i'm supporting the deferral madam 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.520 mayor and i'm speaking here on behalf of 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.680 members of the lgbti community who don't 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:41.760 want these flags quote who don't want to 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:43.520 be part of this identity politics and 01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:45.359 who don't want to go down that path i 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.199 mean we don't know 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:48.880 there may be members you know there'll 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.119 be members of the um they'll be members 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:52.720 of all sorts of communities that may 01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:54.159 want or may not want their national 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:56.640 flags float on particular days and once 01:31:56.720 --> 01:31:59.439 you start um once you start uh going 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.479 down the the path of dividing us up into 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.640 different sub-communities um it may be 01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:06.159 that some communities say hey we want 01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:07.680 our flags float and it may be that 01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:09.600 others that people in community in 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.079 communities whose flags we're flying 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.079 purportedly on their behalf might say 01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:15.359 that they don't want their flags played 01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:17.359 on civic buildings 01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:18.960 so consultation is important here 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:21.119 consultation will help 01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:23.439 we are a very tolerant very respectable 01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:25.279 community and i'm confident that 01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:26.880 consultation will not lead to an 01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:29.359 outbreak of homophobia transphobia in 01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:31.600 stonington 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:33.840 thank you councillor lou um 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:35.119 are there any 01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:37.359 other speakers in relation to the 01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:38.640 deferral 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:40.000 council 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:42.720 thanks me um 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:46.880 so excuse me if i'm a little bit um 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:48.720 triggered and sensitive 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:50.560 about this topic because it is very 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:52.760 personal for me 01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:54.720 um we 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:56.319 most of the councils are on this table 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:57.600 signed a pledge 01:32:57.680 --> 01:32:59.359 that we would support 01:32:59.439 --> 01:32:59.680 um 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:00.880 [Music] 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.359 the flying flags 01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:04.399 when 01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:05.520 we were 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.640 in the process of being elected 01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.239 most of us made that publicly known 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:14.159 so therefore the community were 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.239 completely aware of where we stood with 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.880 regard to flags being flown 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:21.039 some of us chose not to 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:22.319 sign that pledge 01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:25.039 some of us weren't aware of it 01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:26.720 which i can understand it was a very 01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.840 busy time for us to campaign 01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:31.199 this 01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:34.159 argument or debate is not a new debate 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:36.640 we have had this debate previously 01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:38.960 um i don't support the deferral because 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:40.560 we have already committed through a 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:42.479 notice of motion that three councillors 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.439 at this table put to the council 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.279 and i think we need to decide on it 01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:50.279 tonight 01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:53.640 [Applause] 01:33:55.359 --> 01:33:57.039 although i am in the chair i will speak 01:33:57.119 --> 01:33:58.159 on this because 01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:00.000 the deferral has clearly become quite a 01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:01.199 divisive 01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:02.319 issue 01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:03.840 i think given the fact that we have 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.560 signed a pledge that the pledge was 01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:08.640 actually had a list of what you were 01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:10.560 pledging to and you could select the 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:12.640 kind of moment which says incorrectly 01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:14.960 what you agreed to and didn't agree to i 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:16.800 remember agreeing to everything and that 01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:19.439 did include flying with flags and other 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:22.079 councils around the table i would assume 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:23.680 selected all of them if you didn't 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:25.840 that's of course okay as well we have 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:27.920 discussed this many times at council 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:29.760 i've not had any negative communication 01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:32.000 in fact i had a few positive messages 01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:33.680 about the write-up we had in the 01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:35.760 newspaper today about the protocol 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:37.600 coming to council tonight 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.159 um and so i think the time to ask for 01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:42.000 consultation or to flesh this out 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:44.000 further has come and gone 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:45.840 and it you know it would it would not 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.560 seem right to do that that doesn't stop 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:50.319 anything from coming back for review 01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:52.399 whether we look at it this time next 01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:54.239 year and see how did we go 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:56.800 did we upset anybody do we miss out a 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:58.880 day and whatnot 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:01.279 but i think that we've done we've gone 01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:03.039 through quite a substantial process 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:04.560 we've been very open 01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:06.239 about our intentions it's not something 01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:07.439 we've been doing in confidential 01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:09.279 business or anything like that so on 01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:11.600 that basis i won't be supporting the 01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:12.720 deferral 01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:14.479 so counselors i'll put it back to 01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:16.079 counselor staff and move to the deferral 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.000 would you like to sum up council said so 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:20.479 many mayor i'm actually 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:22.079 a bit disappointed because i feel like 01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:24.079 i've been criticized for not signing a 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:25.680 pledge that quite frankly i wasn't aware 01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:28.479 of um i've always been very supportive 01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:29.920 of all different 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:30.960 um 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:32.960 members of our community but my point 01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:34.640 goes back to in fact what triggered me 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:36.319 was counsel these comments about the 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:38.880 indigenous community and whether that 01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:40.399 flag should be flown it has nothing to 01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:42.640 do whatsoever with transgender 01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:44.720 that's my concern in this whole debate i 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:46.720 don't know why it needs to be rushed you 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:47.760 might say that we've had all these 01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:49.359 discussions i haven't been previously 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.600 when counselor posts has said the same 01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:53.840 thing um that 01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:55.119 let's get that we had an incident 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:56.720 earlier this year where we put a flag at 01:35:56.800 --> 01:35:58.159 half mast when we shouldn't have there's 01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.920 more than just which flags we fly it's 01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:01.600 about when we fly them 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:03.439 um and i don't feel that we've resolved 01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:05.840 that issue properly now counselor posted 01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:08.479 say to me well let's let this go through 01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:10.159 and let's review it i don't want to wait 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:11.920 12 months i think it needs to come back 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:13.600 in six months time as far as 01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.039 deliberative engagement going i'm not 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:16.399 talking about communicating with 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:18.399 everybody in the community but i'd like 01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:19.920 to hear from the 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.640 from a reconciliation action group i'd 01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:26.319 like to hear from representatives for um 01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:28.079 the different diverse groups in the 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.239 community there might be more flags we 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.319 should be fined i don't know council 01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:34.399 will make some really valid points we 01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:35.920 may be excluding members of our 01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:37.920 community that want to be represented or 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:39.600 we might be recognizing those that may 01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:41.279 not be i don't know that's the only 01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:43.920 reason i'm asking for this there's no 01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.560 distraction or attempt to undermine 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:48.159 particular people it's just about 01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:50.000 getting this right because it can be 01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:51.920 very just divisive and as councilor 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.239 griffin said it should be uniting your 01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:56.399 community not dividing your community 01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:57.760 and the debate i've heard around here 01:36:57.840 --> 01:36:59.279 tonight was it's dividing your community 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:01.439 because it's dividing the nine of us 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:03.520 and that that is not what we want to be 01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:05.520 achieving and it is really important to 01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:07.439 acknowledge that um there should be no 01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:09.439 negative comments towards each other 01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:11.439 about whose psyche didn't sign and what 01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:13.439 that means i don't at all think that you 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:15.520 moving the deferral is about anything 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:17.520 negative it's more about process right 01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:18.960 and i understand that and thank you for 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:20.560 clarifying that so that's clear to 01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:22.159 anybody listening tonight councillor 01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:23.119 seth 01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:24.159 um 01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:26.800 we'll deal with the deferral now so all 01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:28.800 those in favor of the deferral please 01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:30.399 raise your hands 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:32.159 councillor lou councillor griffin 01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:33.920 councillor saying council coast and all 01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:35.760 those again for deferral 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:37.600 councillor healey councillor badagal 01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:39.199 councillor scott council morgan 01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:41.600 councillor cyrus the deferral fails to 01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:43.760 counsel as we move back to the motion 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:45.520 which is that council approved flag 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.840 protocol i've got a question yeah you 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:49.840 can ask a question councilman i wanted 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:51.840 to check with um councillor said did she 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:54.159 want to move an amendment to have the 01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:56.720 flag protocol if it is passed i was 01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:58.159 going to ask you someone else we can 01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:00.319 just bring it back in six months just as 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:03.520 you pointed out in man thank you again 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:05.039 yeah just see if there's any hiccups 01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:06.880 that happened along the way that we have 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:08.479 a chance to review are you comfortable 01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:10.880 to move a procedure that we add a second 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:12.800 no council more than canada is a 01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:15.039 amendment to promotion i'm happy to 01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:18.159 accept maybe i'm sorry i'm sorry um yeah 01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:20.399 no because because councillor morgan 01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:22.000 moved the original motion all right so 01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:24.079 here we seconded it okay so i'll move an 01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:26.319 amendment 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:28.479 protocol before back 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.800 six months time in june and june yeah 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:32.800 let's say june 22 22. 01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:34.000 and that gives us 01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.399 time to go through a lot of um important 01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.960 events where the flags will be raised 01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:40.800 and then we can see how that worked and 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:42.479 we can get feedback because we'll have 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.600 actually applied the protocol okay 01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:47.600 i won't allow debate on that because i 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.239 think that's that's fine 01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:53.359 um can we put the amendment to the vote 01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:54.880 which is just to confirm that we will 01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:57.119 bring the policy back for a review in 01:38:57.199 --> 01:39:00.159 june of 2022 so all those in favor of 01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:02.800 doing that please raise your hands 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.039 so that's just sorry that's just the 01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:06.880 amendment to bring it back to bring it 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:11.439 back in june to add it to the motion uh 01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:13.039 so that's carried unanimously so 01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:14.880 councillors and now we've got a two-part 01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:16.880 motion so we are still approving the 01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:18.560 flag protocol but we will be bringing it 01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:21.600 back in june of 2022 for review 01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:24.720 um councillors morgan healey griffin and 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:27.359 lou have spoken 01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:29.439 and councillors say have spoken on the 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.640 flag protocol already 01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:34.479 and council scott you might have as well 01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:37.119 i can't remember that's okay yes 01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:38.880 would any other councillors like to 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:44.079 speak on the protocol and the motion 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.600 no it's okay but it is open to 01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.039 counselors if they're if any further 01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:49.920 comments 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:51.199 say very brief i think it's been a 01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:52.560 really constructive debate and 01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:54.159 discussion and it'll be really 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:55.520 interesting to see 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:58.319 how things pan out in six months time 01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:00.079 and 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.560 that's it thank you councillor coast um 01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:06.560 so we canceled about a goal i found it 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:08.000 really interesting too to be honest and 01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:09.840 quite surprising but i've it's always 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:11.600 interesting to hear everybody's 01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:13.680 viewpoints and that's really caused me 01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:16.000 to reflect do i consider 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:18.000 different flags to be divisive or do i 01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:19.760 consider different players to be uniting 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.119 and i actually consider them to be 01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:23.760 inclusive and accepting 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.560 and giving people who don't actually 01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:28.079 necessarily 01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:29.760 have an affiliation with the flag that's 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:32.399 flying for 360 days of the year to have 01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:34.720 their flag represented so maybe just one 01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.039 or two three however many days of the 01:40:37.119 --> 01:40:38.640 year it is where we can actually show 01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:40.800 you know what we are one community or 01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:42.399 one community with a lot of difference 01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:43.840 and we respect that difference and we 01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.439 value that difference and we honor that 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:47.279 difference and if that means putting a 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:50.960 flag up a flagpole to all of 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:01.279 but um pretty much everything's been 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.199 said and council valuable pretty much 01:41:03.279 --> 01:41:05.600 stole the words out of my mouth that 01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:09.039 flags are about unity flags are about 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.840 a symbol that women are flown people are 01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:13.439 drawn to them they look at them they 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:14.800 question them they wonder what they're 01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:17.279 there for so they might choose to go and 01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:19.359 explore and understand a little bit more 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:21.680 about what that flag represents and that 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.359 can only bring us together when we 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:25.760 understand we seek to look out 01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:27.760 for differences 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.159 we then begin to understand and once we 01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:32.800 understand we then accept 01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:34.479 thank you councillor scott now all 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:36.319 councillors have spoken so we'll go back 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:38.399 to council morgan who was the original 01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:41.039 member of the motion 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:42.319 uh thank you 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.000 yeah i would like to sum up briefly and 01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:46.720 i realized that um this debate's 01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:49.039 probably taken a 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:50.479 you know 01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:53.359 different um perhaps um 01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:55.359 track compared to perhaps what many 01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:56.720 people would have considered but it's 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:57.920 raised some 01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.079 issues that people have the right to 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:02.720 raise here at council and and as council 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.960 griffin said um people can't change 01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:07.279 their minds and when i raised people 01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:08.880 signing marango puede or maybe not 01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:10.960 having signed it it wasn't to show any 01:42:11.039 --> 01:42:12.960 disrespect if someone hadn't seen it or 01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:14.319 it was to acknowledge 01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:16.399 that perhaps for people who hadn't 01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:17.600 signed it 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:19.680 if they then didn't agree with it they'd 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:20.960 be perhaps it's quite different to 01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:23.119 someone who may have signed on to the 01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:25.359 full pledge and then now change their 01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:26.720 views on it 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.239 to the community given that that was a 01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.000 very import you know it got a lot of 01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:32.560 publicity it was in the media on social 01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:35.359 media at the time um that people had 01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:36.800 signed that so in that sense that was a 01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:38.640 public commitment to the community that 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:40.880 if someone had not signed it at all 01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:42.880 which is not a problem 01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:44.800 you know at all if they had not signed 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:46.000 it they have not made the same 01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:48.640 commitment to the community and so i 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:49.760 think that's 01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:52.560 an issue um that is worth noting when um 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:54.079 you know and people do have a right to 01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:56.880 change their mind um but you know 01:42:56.960 --> 01:42:59.119 there's also some transparency there 01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:01.199 that people in the community might be 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:03.119 interested in why they've done that and 01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:04.640 when council griffins could have used 01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:06.479 them so does council rule on why they 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:08.640 don't support this 01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.039 i know that um some concerns were raised 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:12.720 about whether it's appropriate to fly 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:14.880 the aboriginal flag by council i do know 01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:16.319 that this is something that has been 01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:18.560 done for many years and stonington is 01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:20.800 done on every day and i'd be quite 01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:22.239 surprised if 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:23.520 council 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:26.319 would stop doing that and um how that 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:28.640 might be received or perceived if we did 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:30.159 just suddenly decide to stop finding the 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:32.399 aboriginal flag um 01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:34.159 and you know we could obviously consult 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:36.079 on that if we wish to but i do think 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:37.680 that would be 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:39.760 something that would be 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.880 unprecedented in in australia to do that 01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:44.800 for councils who do like the flag 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:47.279 already 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.840 i also wanted to urge people that 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:52.000 to support this motion now because it 01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:53.920 does provide clarity and because we are 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.000 reviewing this and we have made it a 01:43:56.079 --> 01:43:58.479 member to review it this provides more 01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:01.279 clarity on when we should consider 01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:02.960 particular community requests to fly 01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:04.319 flags and that was a big gap we 01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:07.439 identified earlier here and until this 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:08.640 you know the sensor provides more 01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:10.960 structure whereas if a display protocol 01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:13.039 isn't approved we do have our notice of 01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.439 motion that is what council will do that 01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.520 was passed unanimously back in february 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:19.199 however we don't have that clarity over 01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:20.720 flying community flags and i think it's 01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.800 important that we have a policy and we 01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.039 can adjust it if we need to but we have 01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:26.239 some sort of 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:28.239 guidelines and frameworks on when we 01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:30.239 agree to fly flags for community members 01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:31.279 and when we don't because we didn't 01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:32.720 earlier in the year 01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.439 thank you thank you very much councillor 01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:37.760 morgan so we will put it to the vote 01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:39.439 division and the division has been 01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:41.359 called so all those in favor please 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:43.199 raise your hands 01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.039 so councillor healey councillor 01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:47.600 battergold councillor said councillor 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:49.359 councillor scott council morgan and 01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:51.520 councillor casares are always against 01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:53.520 councillor lou and councillor griffin 01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:56.000 thank you councillors for a very robust 01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:57.039 debate 01:44:57.119 --> 01:44:58.880 and let's move to our last item of 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:00.119 general business 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:03.760 8.15 the percy trobro multi-sports 01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:05.600 multi-purpose sports and recreation 01:45:05.680 --> 01:45:09.199 facility groundbreaking site 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:10.720 uh given we've had some questions on 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:12.880 previous items i will ask are there any 01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:14.239 questions on this item councillor 01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:16.560 griffin thank you mia um i just want to 01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:19.039 ask mr classic is it normal for us to 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.920 have ground breaking bikes did we for 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:24.560 example with brown square which is a 01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:26.319 much larger project than this have a 01:45:26.399 --> 01:45:28.720 groundbreaking bar 01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:30.399 through you there um 01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:32.479 it's not a common practice to have 01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:34.640 groundbreaking although with large 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:36.640 projects it's not uncommon around 01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:39.840 breaking with france square we had a 01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:43.720 ground breaking ceremony 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.000 we actually had two ceremonies as part 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:48.479 of groundbreaking so there was an issue 01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:50.640 uh celebration of the 01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.319 project commencement and then there was 01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:55.840 a groundbreaking celebration 01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:58.800 but it's not you didn't have a price 01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:01.680 sorry just to clarify i hear you're 01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:03.439 answering you're not exactly answering 01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:05.439 my question we didn't have a plan for 01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:07.600 friends square that was well 01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:08.800 thank you 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:11.840 any other questions counselor scott i'm 01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:14.880 through may uh also too mr quasik 01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:16.079 um 01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:17.359 i'm assuming 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:19.039 that we would also 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:19.840 be 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.399 designing a plan for when the project 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:23.600 has finished 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:26.920 that's correct 01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:44.399 any other questions counselors 01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:46.479 no you go to the motion can i please 01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:48.319 second mover thank you counselor and a 01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:50.640 seconder counselor thank you council 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:52.880 close yeah thanks mayor and if we 01:46:52.960 --> 01:46:54.640 in my time in council we haven't really 01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:55.439 done 01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:57.600 many clarkson ground openings there's 01:46:57.680 --> 01:46:59.520 been a lot of um 01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:01.279 a lot of foundation stones around the 01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:02.880 city and there's one on this building uh 01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:05.279 alfred deakin was part of the opening of 01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:07.840 this building a great prime minister and 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:10.239 leader of federation 01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:12.159 so it's not uncommon 01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:13.520 but it's something we haven't done over 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:15.279 recent times and i think it's a great 01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:18.399 tradition to bring back 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:20.479 it provides an opportunity to 01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:22.880 acknowledge also um other levels of 01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:24.319 government that have contributed towards 01:47:24.399 --> 01:47:25.840 this project particularly the federal 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:27.840 government and katie allen and 01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:29.600 kelly o'dwyer who proceeded to do or 01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:32.079 also did a lot of work um we've got to 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:33.359 remember that the federal government's 01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:34.880 putting four million dollars into this 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:36.960 project which um you know there's only a 01:47:37.039 --> 01:47:38.560 small amount in the scheme of the whole 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:40.079 project but is a large amount of money 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:41.439 when you consider federal government 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:43.279 grants it's actually quite a significant 01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:45.439 sum of money for a million dollars it's 01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:47.039 an opportunity to 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:49.119 bring all the sporting clubs together so 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:51.359 you know tennis netball basketball 01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:53.279 cricket lacrosse 01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:55.840 the local park users etc had a 01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:57.920 celebration of the breaking of the 01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.479 ground getting this underway 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:02.479 it's been a long time in the making this 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:03.680 project 01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:05.840 and it is a very big project as well 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:07.920 it's going to deliver a very big 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:10.079 benefit to the local community probably 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:12.239 one of the biggest benefits of of any 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:14.399 project we've ever done so i think we 01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:16.239 should celebrate it i should we think we 01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:18.000 should be really proud of that we've got 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:19.439 to this point where we're breaking the 01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:20.720 ground 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:22.000 it's going to be just a wonderful 01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:23.760 facility and it's also going to really 01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:26.159 lift the park lands in that area and 01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:28.399 it's an opportunity to give you know our 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:29.760 colleagues in other levels of government 01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:31.600 a pat on the back and say you know we 01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:33.600 really appreciate your support 01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:35.199 um you know that four million dollars 01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:36.560 the federal government is bringing 01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:38.239 should be welcomed and we shouldn't just 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:39.840 have kdl in there we should have you 01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:42.319 know a federal minister there as well 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:43.840 responsible for that funding that the 01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:45.920 federal sports minister perhaps should 01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:47.359 come and do that groundbreaking and it'd 01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:48.960 be wonderful to see that happen in sort 01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:51.199 of january of february the prime 01:48:51.279 --> 01:48:52.880 minister would be could be even better 01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:55.600 so um let's try and get the pm so i 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:56.880 think we should go ahead with it and i 01:48:56.960 --> 01:48:58.640 think we should have another um clark 01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:00.640 ceremony when it's all completed at the 01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:02.239 end of the project as well it's going to 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:04.079 be some time before that's that that 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:05.199 happens 01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:06.720 thank you council first council morgan 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:08.159 would you like to speak 01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.199 um pms yes i would like to speak now i 01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:12.640 wanted to support 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:14.479 what council costa said and just go into 01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:15.840 a little bit more detail about the 01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:17.760 history of foundation stone ceremonies 01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:19.359 and um there's a there's a lot of 01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:21.760 historical precedent for foundation 01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:23.279 stone ceremonies and although this is a 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:25.359 groundbreaking park it's it's basically 01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:27.600 the same kind of thing where you lay a 01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:29.760 foundation stone with a marker to 01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:32.159 celebrate breaking ground and starting 01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:35.119 on a significant um project now this is 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:38.079 my understanding is the biggest single 01:49:38.159 --> 01:49:40.000 investment in infrastructure in one 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.359 location in eastward and so it's it's 01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:46.159 very historically significant and i mean 01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:47.680 eastward doesn't quite go up to going 01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:49.520 for a road except for a tiny bit now 01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:52.079 that borders eastward because of the 01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:53.760 the small boundary change at the start 01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.640 of this year so um the past projects 01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:58.479 that i've been made aware of after 01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:00.159 asking about this at our steering group 01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:02.640 meeting uh or in north and southward 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.159 where we've had these in the past so it 01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:05.520 might be why there isn't the same 01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:07.920 awareness of it in eastward previously 01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:09.680 because we just have not had this level 01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:11.920 of infrastructure put there and it's 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:13.920 hugely significant and i i know there's 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:15.039 been a lot of 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.199 uh controversy about the location of 01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:20.079 this project and camper has now decided 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:21.600 where it's going to be 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:24.319 but it is it is a massive piece of 01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:26.079 infrastructure where you know whether 01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:28.079 people agree for location or not it's a 01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:29.840 huge investment in our community in 01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:32.479 eastport in sports and i also wanted to 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:34.720 acknowledge uh that we've done this in 01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:36.319 partnership with the federal government 01:50:36.399 --> 01:50:38.159 and i wanted to thank the former member 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:40.960 uh the higgins kelly o'dwyer for getting 01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:43.199 and really advocating for that funding 01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:45.439 when she was the mp representing higgins 01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:47.600 and of course katie allen continuing to 01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:49.520 make sure that money is available for 01:50:49.600 --> 01:50:52.239 the project as a local member um i know 01:50:52.319 --> 01:50:54.960 that we also when we do get money from 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:56.720 state governments it is really important 01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:58.720 and significant to recognize that too 01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:00.479 notwithstanding but you know whether 01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:02.560 people are in political parties or not i 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:04.399 think this goes above that politics 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:06.960 because this is benefiting our whole 01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:08.640 community and it's a non-partisan 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:10.880 decision to invest in our community that 01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:11.680 i think 01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:13.680 should be a uniting thing in our 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.720 community and recognised whether whether 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:18.640 people have other views on government or 01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:20.079 not and it's really important to give 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:21.680 credible credits due 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:23.039 and to 01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:25.279 acknowledge our partners finally i think 01:51:25.359 --> 01:51:27.039 it's really important because we've had 01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:28.239 a huge 01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:31.039 inequity and we still do in our sporting 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:33.279 facilities in how they're allocated for 01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:36.239 women and girls teams and this is a big 01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:38.960 step in redressing that we also have had 01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:40.239 a shortfall 01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:42.640 in nepal and basketball competition 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:45.920 grade courts and this is also redressing 01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:47.760 that so it's a significant course for 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:48.960 celebration 01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:51.439 uh a groundbreaking ceremony also gives 01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:53.199 closure because it is showing the 01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:55.520 project is now finally starting the 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.239 project was first approved in 2019 and 01:51:58.319 --> 01:52:01.840 conceived of even in 2015 i believe 01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:04.640 after um there was uh 01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:06.800 um i would just take an extra minute 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:09.359 yes councillor scott and councilman 01:52:09.439 --> 01:52:12.239 thank you and this was originally 01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:14.560 because the disparity in sporting 01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:16.640 facilities for room girls is huge at the 01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:19.039 time when this project was first 01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:21.199 considered and first um 01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:23.039 uh by 01:52:23.119 --> 01:52:25.119 two terms of coda council back then it 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:26.880 was only eight percent of our sports 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.039 grounds were used by women's and girls 01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:30.640 sports and despite a huge commitment 01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:33.039 from multiple councils to try and prove 01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.279 that we're still only at 16 when i ask 01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:37.520 this question earlier in the year and so 01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:39.039 it's this is a huge course for 01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:40.800 celebration because it will it will be 01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:43.359 used by people obviously um 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:45.439 our teams and junior teams will use it 01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.079 too at some at some points but this is 01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:51.199 going to really uh secure the future of 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:53.279 nepal competitions within stonington and 01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.439 there are thousands of people who play 01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:57.359 netball thousands of people who play 01:52:57.439 --> 01:52:58.479 basketball 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.960 and this is redressing that imbalance 01:53:01.039 --> 01:53:02.960 and finally i think that it's worth 01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:05.680 celebrating uh because 01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:07.840 through kobe through all what we've been 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:09.920 through in lockdown and where people 01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:11.920 have not been able to play competition 01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:13.840 sports for nearly two years in some 01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:14.880 cases 01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:16.640 being able to build more facilities to 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:18.720 allow more people who enjoy sport who 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:21.039 love playing as part of a team to be 01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:22.560 able to get out there and actually play 01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:24.239 sport 01:53:24.319 --> 01:53:26.399 and that is very important for our 01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:28.640 community it's it's been sadly held for 01:53:28.720 --> 01:53:31.359 lack of that by parents and families as 01:53:31.439 --> 01:53:32.800 well as adults and so i think it's a 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:34.640 force of celebration and a great 01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:36.560 positive for our community thank you 01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:38.319 thank you councilman morgan i'll open it 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:40.159 up for discussion councillor griffin 01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:41.119 thank you 01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:43.520 mayor um i started off thinking this was 01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:46.560 a duplication why do we need two plugs 01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:48.079 you know this is a waste of council 01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:50.079 money so i have a little speech around 01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:50.880 that 01:53:50.960 --> 01:53:52.640 council morgan you've won me over on 01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:54.960 this i think this could be a really 01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:56.720 great idea because what i'm thinking as 01:53:56.800 --> 01:53:58.560 you were speaking it is 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:00.560 eastward which hasn't had a lot of this 01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:01.920 type of investment that's really 01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:04.479 important for your award but also for 01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:06.960 those people who oppose the location i 01:54:07.039 --> 01:54:09.039 think it could be very good for them to 01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:11.920 be invited and i would expect and assume 01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.159 that all those local residents would be 01:54:14.239 --> 01:54:16.720 invited to this so i think we could turn 01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:18.479 this ceremony into a bit of a turning 01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:21.199 point around that whole conversation so 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:22.880 i've changed my mind and thank you 01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:25.119 council morgan you've done that 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:26.640 i'm supporting this 01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:28.159 wow 01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.239 let's just go to the vote 01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:31.680 for changing minds 01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:33.119 would any other councillors like to 01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:36.720 speak on this councillor healey um so i 01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:38.479 agree with what fellow my fellow 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:39.760 counselors have said as far as the 01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:41.600 importance of the project and influence 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.199 of celebrating the project in the 01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:44.479 beginning of the project and it'd be 01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:46.880 wonderful to have kelly o'dwyer there 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:48.479 and to have katie allen there and i have 01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:50.000 all the sporting teams there and to go 01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:51.600 woohoo we've started 01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:54.720 um but this is actually a motion for a 01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:56.880 plaque and i feel that there'll be 01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:58.079 adequate 01:54:58.159 --> 01:54:59.760 hoarding and signage around the site and 01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:02.000 we can make connection with the um of 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:04.399 the federal involvement in that as well 01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:05.920 um and i don't think we need to have a 01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:08.239 park in order to do that to do that but 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:09.920 i'm all about going here with the 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:11.760 celebration though 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:13.119 loud and clear thank you councillor 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:14.640 healy would any other counselors like to 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:15.840 speak on this 01:55:15.920 --> 01:55:19.279 councillor scott thank you may um so a 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:21.439 lot of has been said tonight 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:23.760 already about um 01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:25.279 a plaque 01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:27.359 um and i similar to council hillary 01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.159 don't necessarily support not just this 01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:32.880 club but i don't support having two 01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:35.920 plugs i suppose um 01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:37.279 but i do support some form of 01:55:37.359 --> 01:55:38.640 recognition 01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:41.439 um of the next phase of this significant 01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:43.119 project and let's remember that this is 01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:45.359 just another phase as councillor morgan 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:47.760 said this started back in 2015. we 01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:49.520 haven't had a plaque at every point of 01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:51.359 making a decision or doing something 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:53.199 different so why should we put a plaque 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.840 in now i totally support having a plaque 01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:58.079 at the end of the project where we can 01:55:58.159 --> 01:55:59.840 bang our pots and pans and jump up and 01:55:59.920 --> 01:56:02.159 down and do with our cartwheels to 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:03.520 celebrate 01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:05.840 the end of this project 01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:08.159 maybe streets have tried to 01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:12.560 shoot some some netball hooks um 01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:14.319 but yeah i i just i don't see the 01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:16.640 relevance in putting a plug in place now 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:17.600 and 01:56:17.680 --> 01:56:19.039 i 01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:21.279 was a little bit unsure to start off 01:56:21.359 --> 01:56:23.760 with so i asked some people within my 01:56:23.840 --> 01:56:25.520 networks what they thought 01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:26.720 and it came back loud and clear that 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:28.880 this doesn't pass the pub test 01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:30.640 they really don't see the value in 01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:32.399 putting a plaque in place they did say 01:56:32.479 --> 01:56:33.760 we do need to 01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:35.520 recognize the funding agreements that 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:36.960 have been made with the different levels 01:56:37.039 --> 01:56:39.439 of government and wouldn't it be great 01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:43.119 to celebrate that we are starting this 01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:46.159 next phase in the project 01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:48.720 but once again i i'd support 01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:51.119 um 01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:53.199 the 01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:54.800 placement of the plaque at the end of 01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:56.640 the project once it's up and running and 01:56:56.720 --> 01:56:58.960 we've got this magnificent facility in 01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:00.880 front of us that we can all go in and 01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:03.119 enjoy at the same time thank you council 01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:05.039 scott would any other councillors like 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:06.640 to see 01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:08.000 councillor gold 01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:10.399 thank you mayor i hold similar views to 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:11.760 councillors government healey on this 01:57:11.840 --> 01:57:14.079 one i've started by going back to the 01:57:14.159 --> 01:57:16.000 policy and i know there's a bit of 01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:17.600 interpretation in there the way that i 01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:19.279 interpret the policy 01:57:19.359 --> 01:57:20.880 is that it's used to acknowledge the 01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:23.039 opening of new council facilities and 01:57:23.119 --> 01:57:24.880 redevelopment of existing facilities 01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:25.920 there's nothing in there about 01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:27.840 groundbreaking it's it's actually once 01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:29.520 it's been completed so i don't really 01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:31.199 see how this fits into that definition 01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:32.880 of our own policy 01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:35.039 i looked i was asking about precedent 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:37.680 the closest example was 48 years ago and 01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:38.399 the 01:57:38.479 --> 01:57:40.399 the one after that you know that goes 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:42.000 back for it even longer 01:57:42.079 --> 01:57:43.760 so back back in those days it took a 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:45.039 little bit longer to build things than 01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:46.640 it does now so i can see that it might 01:57:46.720 --> 01:57:48.560 be a bit more justification 01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:49.920 i want to celebrate i want to be 01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:51.920 standing next to katie allen and kelly 01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.000 o'brien and 01:57:54.079 --> 01:57:55.760 all the different sporting clubs but but 01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:56.960 i think it'd be great to be sitting 01:57:57.039 --> 01:57:58.479 standing next to them in hard packs with 01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:00.479 a shovel rather than actually putting up 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:03.680 a class with a more stifling ceremony i 01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:04.880 think there's just a different way that 01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:06.399 can be do it there's a different way 01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:07.520 that we can celebrate there's a 01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:08.800 different way that we can recognize 01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:09.840 people 01:58:09.920 --> 01:58:11.359 um 01:58:11.439 --> 01:58:12.399 and 01:58:12.479 --> 01:58:13.840 yeah 01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:15.439 thank you 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.000 any other speakers for this item council 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:19.039 um 01:58:19.119 --> 01:58:21.840 thank you um thank you there and look i 01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:24.560 think the plaque is a terrific idea um 01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:25.760 because i think this is a really 01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:28.239 historic moment in the city of stonyton 01:58:28.319 --> 01:58:30.319 this has been a journey where we started 01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:32.720 talking about women's sport and putting 01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:35.279 the right and finding a good location 01:58:35.359 --> 01:58:37.199 for living sport and boy did we have a 01:58:37.279 --> 01:58:38.800 battle about you know where we're going 01:58:38.880 --> 01:58:40.880 to put the right location and i think 01:58:40.960 --> 01:58:43.760 when um historians look back on 01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:45.439 startington and look back on that period 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:47.279 they will look through 01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:50.079 that journey and the plaque i think 01:58:50.159 --> 01:58:51.760 as a groundbreaking part will give it 01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:53.359 the historical significance that it 01:58:53.439 --> 01:58:55.439 deserves i do think the prime minister 01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:57.199 will come down for it 01:58:57.279 --> 01:58:59.760 i really do 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:02.720 he likes coming to higgins and so i 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:04.319 think we will get him and i think that 01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:05.039 will 01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:05.920 uh 01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:08.560 also give a lot of um 01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:10.640 kudos as that's the good thing to the 01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:11.680 project 01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:13.920 and the other reason i really support 01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:16.640 this plaque is because it demonstrates 01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:18.720 the hard work that's been put into it 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:20.319 particularly by 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:22.479 you madam mayor as my colleague 01:59:22.560 --> 01:59:26.000 eastwood councillor it is 01:59:26.079 --> 01:59:28.000 appropriate and 01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:29.279 it has 01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:31.039 you know some level of 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:32.159 um 01:59:32.239 --> 01:59:35.680 of justice that you be the one who 01:59:35.760 --> 01:59:38.000 opens to who 01:59:38.079 --> 01:59:39.279 um 01:59:39.359 --> 01:59:41.279 is there at the ceremony and who who 01:59:41.359 --> 01:59:44.319 lays the foundation stone because 01:59:44.399 --> 01:59:46.399 everybody around this everyone in this 01:59:46.479 --> 01:59:47.760 chamber knows how hard you've worked 01:59:47.840 --> 01:59:50.640 with this project over so far such a 01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:53.359 um so many years and how hard you fought 01:59:53.439 --> 01:59:54.880 for it against such 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:57.520 uh vigorous often quite unpleasant 01:59:57.600 --> 01:59:58.720 opposition 01:59:58.800 --> 02:00:01.039 um and you've earned it quite frankly 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:02.319 you've earned it for the battle that 02:00:02.399 --> 02:00:05.439 you've put um that you fought for us 02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:07.920 for girls sporting for women's sport for 02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.920 always putting that first so i think 02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:11.520 it's only fair that you have this 02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:14.399 ceremony and that we commemorate 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.399 we commemorate the building of it and we 02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:17.680 commemorate 02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:19.600 your role as mayor in getting this 02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:20.720 project 02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:21.920 up and running 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:23.119 so 02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:26.640 great idea for the plaque not quite sure 02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:28.560 why there's such a vigorous opposition 02:00:28.640 --> 02:00:30.960 to it it doesn't quite make sense to me 02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:34.159 it's not going to be an enormous expense 02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:35.359 certainly 02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.399 compared to some other items which we've 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:42.079 spent money on over the last 12 months 02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:42.960 so 02:00:43.039 --> 02:00:44.399 um i think it'll be really good for 02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:46.159 stonington and it's my pleasure to 02:00:46.239 --> 02:00:48.399 support promotion thank you council lou 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:51.359 any other speakers 02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:53.920 we did receive a couple of emails from 02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:56.399 the prank netball association and that 02:00:56.479 --> 02:00:58.560 that apart from what council morgan said 02:00:58.640 --> 02:01:01.359 who was very convincing and said 02:01:01.439 --> 02:01:03.840 everything plus ten times more than what 02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:05.680 i thought of but look i thought about it 02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:07.840 it's a two thousand dollar cost the 02:01:07.920 --> 02:01:09.840 significance of it to the netball 02:01:09.920 --> 02:01:12.079 association is massive 02:01:12.159 --> 02:01:13.760 the journey that they've been on that 02:01:13.840 --> 02:01:16.560 was mentioned um and this is really that 02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:18.560 stake in the ground like this is this is 02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:19.920 gonna happen 02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:21.520 you know and we're gonna celebrate that 02:01:21.600 --> 02:01:23.680 and i think for a small amount of money 02:01:23.760 --> 02:01:26.479 the good will that comes out of setting 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:28.720 the scene and letting them know that 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:31.279 that journey is now it's paid off that 02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:33.039 hard work has paid off it was a 02:01:33.119 --> 02:01:35.039 tumultuous journey for everyone involved 02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:37.119 and i think it's a time to now go 02:01:37.199 --> 02:01:39.359 it's here let's celebrate it we are 02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:41.600 moving forward with this and that's that 02:01:41.680 --> 02:01:43.760 commemoration and it is that history 02:01:43.840 --> 02:01:45.600 when down the track they look back and 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:47.840 go wow they fought over a netball 02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:51.039 stadium for a thousand girls um and it 02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:52.800 is going to be a great asset to the city 02:01:52.880 --> 02:01:54.560 not just for netball but for all the 02:01:54.640 --> 02:01:56.720 high court um 02:01:56.800 --> 02:01:59.279 sports and so forth so um i think it's 02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:01.600 it's a no-brainer so i'll be getting i 02:02:01.680 --> 02:02:03.680 will be definitely supporting the motion 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:06.000 thank you councillor sarah i believe 02:02:06.079 --> 02:02:07.760 everyone has spoken so we'll go back to 02:02:07.840 --> 02:02:09.520 councillor coast if you'd like to sum up 02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:10.880 i won't say much because it's been a 02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:12.640 long night and i think everyone's spoken 02:02:12.720 --> 02:02:16.239 really well on this issue um i see this 02:02:16.319 --> 02:02:18.640 as a as a beautiful kind of bringing 02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:20.319 together of the community a beautiful 02:02:20.399 --> 02:02:22.000 opportunity to bring everyone together 02:02:22.079 --> 02:02:23.840 and to market with a historical plaque 02:02:23.920 --> 02:02:26.479 so i think we should absolutely do it as 02:02:26.560 --> 02:02:30.079 councillor said it's a no-brainer and 02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:32.159 i just hope this motion is successful i 02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:34.159 think it's a it's a very positive thing 02:02:34.239 --> 02:02:36.479 if you counselor okay we'll go to the 02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:39.119 motion can i see all of you with a show 02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:40.960 of hands a division has been called so 02:02:41.039 --> 02:02:43.279 all those in paper thank you councillors 02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:44.880 councillor lou councillor griffin 02:02:44.960 --> 02:02:46.720 councillor said council of coast council 02:02:46.800 --> 02:02:49.199 morgan and councillor cyrus orders a 02:02:49.279 --> 02:02:50.079 guest 02:02:50.159 --> 02:02:51.920 councillor healey councillor vatigol and 02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:54.319 council scott the motion is carried 02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:56.239 thank you councillors we are at the end 02:02:56.319 --> 02:02:58.319 of general business very well done we 02:02:58.399 --> 02:03:01.439 moved to item nine correspondence uh do 02:03:01.520 --> 02:03:04.000 counsellors having to table this evening 02:03:04.079 --> 02:03:06.399 um and if you are tabling just very 02:03:06.479 --> 02:03:08.399 briefly mention what it's in relation to 02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:09.760 councillor morgan 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:11.840 uh thank you mayor i'd like to tape with 02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:13.520 some correspondence from an eastwood 02:03:13.600 --> 02:03:16.079 residence um adrian pirello which was 02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:16.960 about 02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:18.479 um 02:03:18.560 --> 02:03:20.079 seeing if council could actually work 02:03:20.159 --> 02:03:24.159 with also city of glenaira to address uh 02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:27.199 potential safety issues on danielle road 02:03:27.279 --> 02:03:30.960 between boyd park and the urban forest 02:03:31.039 --> 02:03:32.640 and so there's quite a few people who 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:34.079 cross there 02:03:34.159 --> 02:03:36.000 with no actual crossing the crossing is 02:03:36.079 --> 02:03:39.359 actually further up the road 02:03:39.439 --> 02:03:40.720 near the school 02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:43.600 and and our very own destination so 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:45.039 that's that's the 02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:47.119 table that correspondence thank you 02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:49.680 council briefing um thank you mayor 02:03:49.760 --> 02:03:52.560 very quickly um we've had 02:03:52.640 --> 02:03:54.319 quite a bit of correspondence about the 02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:56.239 possibility of council putting a 02:03:56.319 --> 02:03:58.800 temporary loading zone into our road 02:03:58.880 --> 02:04:00.960 there's 02:04:01.039 --> 02:04:02.880 works going on there that are really of 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:04.800 great concern to the retailers so i 02:04:04.880 --> 02:04:06.319 wanted to bring that to council because 02:04:06.399 --> 02:04:08.399 it's an important issue and also i've 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:10.640 had further correspondence on putting a 02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:12.880 fence on the surrey road park 02:04:12.960 --> 02:04:16.000 to protect path goers and dogs and 02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:18.560 children it keeps coming back to me this 02:04:18.640 --> 02:04:20.960 request and i've had more correspondence 02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:22.640 on that thank you 02:04:22.720 --> 02:04:24.319 thank you councillor griffin any other 02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:26.319 correspondents table 02:04:26.399 --> 02:04:27.760 council battle thank you man very 02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:28.960 quickly um 02:04:29.039 --> 02:04:31.039 correspondence from um on two matches 02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:32.960 one is parking restrictions on grebel 02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:35.600 street and the other one is an email 02:04:35.680 --> 02:04:37.680 noise concerns from the college law and 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:39.119 whether we could have good options to 02:04:39.199 --> 02:04:41.039 protect residents 02:04:41.119 --> 02:04:42.560 thank you for that 02:04:42.640 --> 02:04:44.319 no further correspondence 02:04:44.399 --> 02:04:45.680 councils are moved to table in the 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:47.760 petitions and joint letters and eastward 02:04:47.840 --> 02:04:49.359 resident uh 02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:53.199 oh was that not in relation to 02:04:57.840 --> 02:05:00.239 okay so eastwood council has received a 02:05:00.319 --> 02:05:02.720 petition uh in relation to 02:05:02.800 --> 02:05:04.079 i won't read it all out because there's 02:05:04.159 --> 02:05:05.920 a lot of detail the corner of 02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:08.000 chesterfield avenue and glen ferry road 02:05:08.079 --> 02:05:10.239 in relation to uh sightlines not being 02:05:10.319 --> 02:05:12.640 clear very dangerous so we've received 02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.359 it hard copy there's 21 signatures we 02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:17.520 also received a 20-second signature 02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:18.800 electronically which i've already 02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:21.039 forwarded to the offices 02:05:21.119 --> 02:05:23.520 um so we tabled that are there other 02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:25.840 petitions councillors council healey 02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:27.600 yeah i've got a petition to table from 02:05:27.680 --> 02:05:30.560 16 residents surrounding sam's way who 02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:31.600 are concerned about the traffic 02:05:31.680 --> 02:05:33.760 management off the street in relation to 02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:35.600 the maneuvering of trucks thank you 02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:37.680 council healey and castle coast yeah 02:05:37.760 --> 02:05:39.119 i've got a petition as well it's 02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:40.880 actually i've actually noticed in the 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:42.640 italics it says addressed to me kate 02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:44.239 healy so i'm not sure if you've tabled 02:05:44.319 --> 02:05:46.079 it or not it's regarding 02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:48.159 on-street parking for falkland street 02:05:48.239 --> 02:05:50.960 south yarra speed limit issues speed 02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:53.359 cameras and parking inspectors look our 02:05:53.439 --> 02:05:55.600 old table that then it's got um four 02:05:55.680 --> 02:05:57.680 signatures on it 02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:59.119 it's dealing with traffic matters thank 02:05:59.199 --> 02:06:00.479 you councillor chris i'm just sorry on 02:06:00.560 --> 02:06:02.079 the one over overtable hypothesis could 02:06:02.159 --> 02:06:04.399 bring a report to consult on this in the 02:06:04.479 --> 02:06:06.479 first quarter of 2022. that would be 02:06:06.560 --> 02:06:09.119 great so can i seek a move and a second 02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:10.399 to accept 02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:12.479 three petitions councillor post 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:14.880 secondary council 02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:15.600 declare that morgan 02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:16.800 carrie we're just accepting the 02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:18.560 petitions 02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:20.479 all right councillors we don't have any 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:22.399 notices of motion this evening so we 02:06:22.479 --> 02:06:25.119 move to item 12 reports by councillors 02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:27.680 other ending councillor healey um this 02:06:27.760 --> 02:06:29.760 is a bit of an unofficial one but many 02:06:29.840 --> 02:06:31.359 councillors around this table had the 02:06:31.439 --> 02:06:33.920 privilege of going to the piranha arcade 02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:36.319 recently which um resides when i was 02:06:36.399 --> 02:06:38.319 building that is the jv high five 02:06:38.399 --> 02:06:39.840 building which has had lots of 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:42.000 scaffolding over it for the late so that 02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:43.279 girl since the beginning of the year 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:45.359 august i think was when they started it 02:06:45.439 --> 02:06:48.159 um and we have just been um i'll speak 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:50.079 on behalf of everyone blown away by how 02:06:50.159 --> 02:06:53.680 amazing the restoration work has been um 02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:55.840 it's a really passionate owner and his 02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:57.439 wife which has worked really hard to 02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:59.680 reveal a hidden legacy 02:06:59.760 --> 02:07:01.760 for the city and have been in contact 02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:03.920 with us throughout the years with me as 02:07:04.000 --> 02:07:06.960 far as the progress that they've made 02:07:07.039 --> 02:07:08.960 this is a really important building for 02:07:09.039 --> 02:07:11.279 stonington because it's one that i 02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:13.199 remember hearing through campaign period 02:07:13.279 --> 02:07:15.359 that people just love the building and 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:17.520 can't wait to see it exposed 02:07:17.600 --> 02:07:18.720 um 02:07:18.800 --> 02:07:20.960 and it was originally the first dan 02:07:21.039 --> 02:07:23.680 murphy's shop as well um they're hoping 02:07:23.760 --> 02:07:25.119 this is going to be an inspiration and 02:07:25.199 --> 02:07:26.880 challenge to other owners down chapel 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:29.119 street around stonington to really 02:07:29.199 --> 02:07:31.199 remember the beauty of the heritage that 02:07:31.279 --> 02:07:32.560 we've got 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:34.000 and it really speaks to the power of 02:07:34.079 --> 02:07:36.560 beautiful design to to lift the spirit 02:07:36.640 --> 02:07:38.640 of the street as well so 02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:40.239 on behalf of everyone i hope you don't 02:07:40.319 --> 02:07:42.560 mind i really wish to congratulate the 02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:44.800 um the owner who has really put this in 02:07:44.880 --> 02:07:45.840 as a 02:07:45.920 --> 02:07:49.119 a passion project um which i think the 02:07:49.199 --> 02:07:51.039 whole city will be able to do it thank 02:07:51.119 --> 02:07:52.960 you council healing on my tour today the 02:07:53.039 --> 02:07:55.359 owner did actually give me a massive um 02:07:55.439 --> 02:07:57.680 book with images of the old building 02:07:57.760 --> 02:07:59.119 with horse and cart and whatnot so i'll 02:07:59.199 --> 02:08:00.560 leave that in the counselor's lounge 02:08:00.640 --> 02:08:02.479 that anyone would like to see it's 02:08:02.560 --> 02:08:04.319 really really incredible any other 02:08:04.399 --> 02:08:06.960 reports by councillors councillor morgan 02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:08.479 thank you man i'd just like to briefly 02:08:08.560 --> 02:08:11.359 report that i attended uh the opening on 02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:12.800 international um day of people 02:08:12.880 --> 02:08:15.600 disability which is uh december 3rd 02:08:15.680 --> 02:08:17.680 the opening the official opening of job 02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:19.359 codes disability employment service 02:08:19.439 --> 02:08:21.920 office in parade it was really fantastic 02:08:22.000 --> 02:08:23.600 event uh josco 02:08:23.680 --> 02:08:25.920 uh had 16 offices throughout victoria 02:08:26.000 --> 02:08:28.079 just opened this one in paran and 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:30.640 they are assisting uh um 02:08:30.720 --> 02:08:33.279 people with disabilities to find work 02:08:33.359 --> 02:08:35.039 and to also get skills to help their 02:08:35.119 --> 02:08:37.199 work and it's a really fantastic project 02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:40.079 it was great to be there um and you're 02:08:40.159 --> 02:08:41.359 really glad to have the opportunity to 02:08:41.439 --> 02:08:42.159 go 02:08:42.239 --> 02:08:44.000 thank you thank you council morgan any 02:08:44.079 --> 02:08:45.359 further reports 02:08:45.439 --> 02:08:48.239 councillor bargo i i attended unpacking 02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:52.800 the man box which is a event a 02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:54.399 project that we've supported as part of 02:08:54.479 --> 02:08:56.800 the community recovery fund and it was a 02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:58.319 beautiful presentation and it's an 02:08:58.399 --> 02:08:59.760 incredible program 02:08:59.840 --> 02:09:01.520 and i just wanted to mention it because 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:03.279 we're accepting expressions of interest 02:09:03.359 --> 02:09:05.520 at this point in time to join the 02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:07.520 modeling respect and equality program 02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:08.880 which is 02:09:08.960 --> 02:09:10.640 the mall program and it's really looking 02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:12.560 for members of our community who work 02:09:12.640 --> 02:09:15.199 with or who are interested in taking on 02:09:15.279 --> 02:09:18.079 a position to act as a role model for 02:09:18.159 --> 02:09:20.319 behaviours to admit to our men and our 02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:22.239 boys and it's really about gender 02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:23.920 equality and healthier identities and 02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:25.920 it's quite extraordinary so i'm going to 02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.000 be approaching some of the schools and 02:09:28.079 --> 02:09:29.760 principles that i know and i'd encourage 02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:31.520 other councils if you know some people 02:09:31.600 --> 02:09:33.680 that might actually like to 02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:35.199 submit an expression of interest that 02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:37.119 this is an incredible program that will 02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:38.560 actually change 02:09:38.640 --> 02:09:40.960 uh how we deal with gender identity 02:09:41.039 --> 02:09:42.319 within stellington 02:09:42.399 --> 02:09:44.319 excellent thank you council bargain 02:09:44.399 --> 02:09:46.159 and although not technically a report 02:09:46.239 --> 02:09:47.439 but it's the last meeting of the year 02:09:47.520 --> 02:09:48.960 i'll give one anyway just to highlight 02:09:49.039 --> 02:09:51.119 some awards that council was nominated 02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:52.880 for and was successful in actually 02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:55.039 winning over the last couple of weeks 02:09:55.119 --> 02:09:57.520 um so council in february of last year 02:09:57.600 --> 02:09:59.279 moved a resolution to declare climate 02:09:59.359 --> 02:10:00.399 emergency 02:10:00.479 --> 02:10:03.039 and as we implement our recently adopted 02:10:03.119 --> 02:10:04.880 action emergency action plan i'm 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:06.640 delighted to update councillors and the 02:10:06.720 --> 02:10:08.319 community that stunnington was highly 02:10:08.399 --> 02:10:10.640 commended in four award categories of 02:10:10.720 --> 02:10:13.279 the 2021 keep victoria beautiful 02:10:13.359 --> 02:10:15.119 sustainable cities awards the 02:10:15.199 --> 02:10:17.119 nominations recognize these four 02:10:17.199 --> 02:10:19.680 programs our environmental champions 02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:20.720 program 02:10:20.800 --> 02:10:23.359 efforts to improve energy and efficiency 02:10:23.439 --> 02:10:25.119 and to reduce emissions at chapel off 02:10:25.199 --> 02:10:28.000 chapel the sustainability vision for the 02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:30.159 master plan for gardeners creek and our 02:10:30.239 --> 02:10:31.840 program to support sustainability and 02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:34.319 nature play in edu and early education 02:10:34.399 --> 02:10:36.640 services so thank you to all the staff 02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:38.800 for their incredible involvement in 02:10:38.880 --> 02:10:40.640 developing those programs and 02:10:40.720 --> 02:10:42.399 implementing them to clearly a very high 02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:43.920 standard where we are now being 02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:46.560 recognized at a national level and 02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:47.840 additionally i'd also like to 02:10:47.920 --> 02:10:50.079 congratulate our director of environment 02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:52.239 and infrastructure rick clarcek i'm 02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:54.239 receiving the public works leadership 02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:56.399 award at the institute of public works 02:10:56.479 --> 02:10:58.479 engineering australasia's 02:10:58.560 --> 02:11:01.279 2021 engineering excellence awards last 02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:03.439 friday night the environment and 02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:04.960 infrastructure team under rick's 02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:07.039 leadership delivers a range of projects 02:11:07.119 --> 02:11:08.560 initiatives and works including 02:11:08.640 --> 02:11:10.560 startington's open space environment 02:11:10.640 --> 02:11:12.880 transport and parking city operations 02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:15.359 asset management and planning and urban 02:11:15.439 --> 02:11:16.720 infrastructure projects for those 02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:19.039 dominant community so congratulations 02:11:19.119 --> 02:11:20.800 very well deserved 02:11:20.880 --> 02:11:22.640 um 02:11:22.720 --> 02:11:24.560 council has been moved to questions to 02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:27.520 council officers uh councillor griffin 02:11:27.600 --> 02:11:29.279 first thank you thank you i've got a 02:11:29.359 --> 02:11:31.520 question for mrs batista 02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:33.760 um i'm interested to notice batista how 02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:35.680 many businesses have closed down in 02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:38.560 stonington since the start of covert and 02:11:38.640 --> 02:11:41.359 how many new businesses have opened 02:11:41.439 --> 02:11:42.479 um thank you 02:11:42.560 --> 02:11:43.159 griffin 02:11:43.239 --> 02:11:45.039 [Music] 02:11:45.119 --> 02:11:47.680 according to economy iv 02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:49.760 stonington's records and also the 02:11:49.840 --> 02:11:53.039 australian business registry data sets 02:11:53.119 --> 02:11:56.439 from march 2020 to june 2021 02:11:56.520 --> 02:11:58.960 2810 businesses have been registered in 02:11:59.039 --> 02:12:00.319 stonington 02:12:00.399 --> 02:12:01.319 and 02:12:01.399 --> 02:12:04.000 1829 businesses have cancelled their 02:12:04.079 --> 02:12:06.720 business registration which leaves a net 02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:10.479 figure of 981 business opinions 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:11.199 um 02:12:11.279 --> 02:12:13.680 there's a lot of information and context 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:15.199 around those students but they're doing 02:12:15.279 --> 02:12:17.600 more figures thank you 02:12:17.680 --> 02:12:19.920 thank you very much um and to you miss 02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:21.119 weather all 02:12:21.199 --> 02:12:22.720 i'm very aware of the fact that we're 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:24.880 possibly heading in to supply all sorts 02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:27.039 of supply shortages in australia next 02:12:27.119 --> 02:12:29.439 year um are you aware of this 02:12:29.520 --> 02:12:31.920 possibility and its possible impact on 02:12:32.000 --> 02:12:34.560 council yeah three numer um certainly i 02:12:34.640 --> 02:12:36.399 think it's in the national dinner at the 02:12:36.479 --> 02:12:39.199 moment in the news in regards to urea 02:12:39.279 --> 02:12:40.159 around 02:12:40.239 --> 02:12:43.119 diesel fuel um councils can be reassured 02:12:43.199 --> 02:12:44.560 that we have adequate suppliers at 02:12:44.640 --> 02:12:46.239 council we've got approximately four 02:12:46.319 --> 02:12:48.239 months for our waste trucks and street 02:12:48.319 --> 02:12:50.479 sweeping trucks but we are concerned 02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:52.640 that works for next year as to whether 02:12:52.720 --> 02:12:54.159 or not there'll be supply chain issues 02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:55.600 so we'll continue to monitor the 02:12:55.680 --> 02:13:00.079 situation and advise council thank you 02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:01.680 oh there were your questions counseling 02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:04.319 yes thank you thank you sir uh thank you 02:13:04.399 --> 02:13:06.880 madam mayor i'm i'm going to email this 02:13:06.960 --> 02:13:09.199 to mrs batista and to mr kwasik but 02:13:09.279 --> 02:13:10.239 there's a 02:13:10.319 --> 02:13:12.079 telstra 02:13:12.159 --> 02:13:15.359 box um digital box that's promoting 02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:18.319 um new smart cities yes smart cities and 02:13:18.399 --> 02:13:20.319 right this one's got great plans on it 02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:21.680 i'm right at the front of the town hall 02:13:21.760 --> 02:13:22.960 on chapel street it's literally in the 02:13:23.039 --> 02:13:24.880 middle of the walkway so so far so much 02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:26.640 for disability access 02:13:26.720 --> 02:13:28.319 so i don't know where that's popped up 02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:29.920 if they're allowed to do it so can i ask 02:13:30.000 --> 02:13:31.760 that be investigated in councils please 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:34.079 be advised yeah can we get an email on 02:13:34.159 --> 02:13:38.000 that well it's this week please yes 02:13:38.079 --> 02:13:39.279 it's a proposal i don't know whether 02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:41.039 they need our approval to do it but 02:13:41.119 --> 02:13:42.319 anyway if we could just get some clarity 02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:44.319 on why it's there for how long and 02:13:44.399 --> 02:13:45.119 yeah 02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:46.640 okay i've got offices to take that on 02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:49.840 notice any other questions counselors 02:13:49.920 --> 02:13:52.800 no wonderful uh any urgent business to 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.279 raise this evening 02:13:55.359 --> 02:13:57.439 no just under other general business i 02:13:57.520 --> 02:13:59.760 would just raise one other thing so 02:13:59.840 --> 02:14:02.560 under uh julia galachi's team we have 02:14:02.640 --> 02:14:04.880 got the budget simulation engagement to 02:14:04.960 --> 02:14:08.399 the 2022-23 budget out moment that was 02:14:08.479 --> 02:14:10.319 originally going to close on the 20th of 02:14:10.399 --> 02:14:12.239 january and councillor griffin raised me 02:14:12.319 --> 02:14:14.000 that that you know the full holidays 02:14:14.079 --> 02:14:15.359 people often 02:14:15.439 --> 02:14:17.359 busy with their kids and being away and 02:14:17.439 --> 02:14:20.159 what not could we extend it and uh mrs 02:14:20.239 --> 02:14:21.920 confirmed that we have extended it until 02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.960 the 5th of january so it's open now 02:14:25.039 --> 02:14:26.880 i'm sorry fourth of february thank you 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:29.279 it's open now so lots of time for 02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:31.279 residents to participate in that so 02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:32.880 distribute that amongst your networks 02:14:32.960 --> 02:14:35.039 counsellors that'll be very exciting to 02:14:35.119 --> 02:14:37.359 see the analysis out of that any other 02:14:37.439 --> 02:14:38.800 general business that anyone wanted to 02:14:38.880 --> 02:14:41.119 raise 02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:44.239 [Music] 02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:50.880 any other general business 02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:52.880 okay i will wish everyone a very 02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:55.520 wonderful christmas holiday period new 02:14:55.600 --> 02:14:58.079 year it has been an extraordinarily 02:14:58.159 --> 02:15:00.239 challenging year i think for everyone i 02:15:00.319 --> 02:15:02.399 don't know who would say otherwise 02:15:02.479 --> 02:15:04.560 but i think we are on the road to 02:15:04.640 --> 02:15:06.720 optimism and i think 2022 is really 02:15:06.800 --> 02:15:08.800 going to be an incredible year 02:15:08.880 --> 02:15:10.319 certainly for the stunnington community 02:15:10.399 --> 02:15:12.479 but hopefully for the world so thank you 02:15:12.560 --> 02:15:14.479 councillors for all your incredibly hard 02:15:14.560 --> 02:15:16.079 work your passion and commitment to 02:15:16.159 --> 02:15:18.319 council this year and as always to 02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:19.359 officers 02:15:19.439 --> 02:15:20.880 for putting up with us 02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:23.199 and i'm doing thank you doing amazing 02:15:23.279 --> 02:15:25.199 work we look forward to continuing to 02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:26.800 work together in the next year and thank 02:15:26.880 --> 02:15:28.560 you to the community who tune in who 02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:31.119 participate within council and who get 02:15:31.199 --> 02:15:33.760 involved and if you don't please do we 02:15:33.840 --> 02:15:35.600 want to hear from you so 02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:37.039 thank you councillors we don't have any 02:15:37.119 --> 02:15:38.720 confidential business so on that basis 02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:41.439 i'll close the meeting at 9 15 pm well 02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:44.760 done everyone