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evening and welcome to the City of

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Stonnington council meeting of Monday 22nd

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of July 2024 on Councilor Joe Gianfriddo I'd like

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to begin by reading our statement of

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reconciliation we acknowledge we meeting

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on the traditional lands of the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung and

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Bunurong peoples of the East Kulin Nations and

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pay our respects to their eldest past and

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present we extend that respect to all

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait

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Islander peoples we acknowledge their

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living connection country relationship

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with the land and all the new things

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extending back tens of thousands of

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years and our statement of commitment we

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are reminded that as counselors we are

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bound by our oath of office to undertake

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the duties of counselor in the best

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interest of the people of the City of

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Stonnington and to faithfully and

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impartially carry out the functions

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powers authorities and directions vested in us

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under Local Government Act and any other

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relevant act okay we now go to

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introductions to my right we have

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councelor Kate Hely from North Ward councelor

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Nikki Batagol from South Ward councelor

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Jami Klisaris from East Ward councelor

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Marcia Griffin from North Ward and to my

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left councelor Polly Morgan from East Ward

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councelor Melina Sehr from South Ward our

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Deputy Mayor councilor Mike Scott from

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South Ward and councilor Matthew Koce from

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North Ward to my immediate right is our CEO

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Mr Dale Dixon who will now introduce staff

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thank you mayor  behind us we have

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Matthew Beale our it Support Officer ?

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?  it Support Officer Loren Lawford

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governance coordinator and Judy Hogan

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our acting EA to the mayor and

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counselors to our right Alex Kastaniotis

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manager statutory planning Annaliese Batista

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director planning and place and Julia

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Gallace Chief Financial officer to our far left

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we have Kath Harrod director community

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and wellbeing Simon Holloway director

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environment and infrastructure and

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Daniella Mazone director organization

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capability and to your immediate left

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mayor Marlo Emmett acting manager

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governance thank you okay  we have no

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apologies this even are there any

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apologies for future

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meetings no okay we'll move along to

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adoption and confirmation of minutes of

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the previous meeting held on the 3 of

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June 2024 can I have a

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mover Council Battagol and seconded by

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Council ?  any comments or alterations no

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put that to the vote all those in favor

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carried

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Council okay councilors do we have any

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disclosures of conflicts of interest

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this evening councelor Morgan  I'd

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like to disclose  of General conflict

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of interest for item 8.4 Community

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grants thank you Councilor and the same

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8.4 Community

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Griffin same thank you thank you any other

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conflicts okay move on to questions  to

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the council from the community recently

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Council updated its government's rules

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to provide community members with an

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opportunity to ask questions in person

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or via electronic means at Council meetings

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tonight we receive seven submissions two

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submissions will take the form of a

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summary to be read and five submissions

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will be presented in person for the

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benefit of those joining us tonight I

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will briefly outline the process I will

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invite the submitter by name to move to the

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middle of the gallery to address the

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council the submitter will have up to 3

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minutes to ask their question or make a

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statement at the 2 minute so 2 and 1/2

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minute mark you will hear the bell ring

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once this is to indicate the submitter

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has 30 seconds left at the conclusion of

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3 minutes you will hear the bell ring

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twice at which point the submitter will

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finish speaking all  submissions

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which relate to items on tonight's

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agenda will not be referred to officers

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for a response however a counselor may

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facilitate a submission received at the

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appropriate time on the agenda when the

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item is discussed the submission that

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does not relate to an item on tonight's

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agenda will be referred to offices and a

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written response provided in accordance

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with the  Council customer service

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charter a copy of the submission and

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response will also be tabled and

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inserted into the minutes of the

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following council meeting as required by

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government's rules submitters will be

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visible and audible to all counselors

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Council officers and the gallery and

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audible to the public watching the live

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stream online I will also take this

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opportunity to remind submitters to

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please use the wording of the

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pre-submitted question or statement and

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to ensure that it remains in line with

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council's mutual respect Charter I will

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now read a summary of the 

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statement provided by Rowan Opac in

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relation to item 8.2 planning

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application for carers Avenue

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tour the submission commends the

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applicant for the investment in

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international renowned kery Hiller

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Architects and notes that Stonington is

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fortunate to have this level of design

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consideration for such rare critical

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site the submission notes that the

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application represent a major draw card

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to turac Village and hopes that this

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standard provides a benchmark for future

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projects in this area I will need now

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read a summary of the statement provided

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by Julie Elliot in relation to trees at

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Percy ?

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playground the submission refers to

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Percy ? playground concept design

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showing five mature Castellons to be

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demolished and  two saplings to be

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relocated the submission notes that five

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castellons are situated along the tennis

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courts with a gap where a sixth Castellon

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once was and urges the six camon to be

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replanted the submission states that

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several saplings including the two to be

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relocated died over the smer due to

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not being watered the submission states

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that in March

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2022 140 established trees were removed

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the submission urges Council to save the

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castle mons and replace the departed

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saplings in the

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playground I will now invite Ben Cohen

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to step forward and read a statement in

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relation to item 8.2 planning

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application The Carter Avenue

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to thank you for the opportunity to

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address you today  my issue is the

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height of the proposal the eight story

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building  and my concern is the lack

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of justification from a public interest

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benefit to get to that level  and

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given that the council own preferred

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development height it was four to six

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levels now T Village is a jewel in the

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crown of Victoria Melbourne and to

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desate that in this way  this is not a

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village this is moving towards the

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concepts that we see at Box Hill

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inappropriate we've seen similar

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inappropriate activities authorized by

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this Council in the area to the east of

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the southa Railway

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Station why would we desecrate such a gy

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but is terity with something that is so

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severe at that level there is no public

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interest

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justification and the consequences of

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the pight has impact Far and Beyond this

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particular building because we're

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talking about parking the hidity the

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density

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the shadowing and on and on so to go to

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this height there is no public interest

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justification that this

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Council should

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consider thank you thank you Ben I will

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now invite Rachel O'Neal to step forward

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and read a statement in relation to

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item2 plan the application for Avenue to

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thank you mayor  this application was

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the second project to be undertaken in

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the T Village by alard parer  as

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you've heard with the internationally

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renowned architectural firm K Hil it is

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illustrative of our client's commitment

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to deliver the highest quality projects

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where thoughtful consideration has been

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given to the sighting and interface with

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its context we request that you support

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 this full resolve development this

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strategic ke R development site the

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favorable officer recommendation

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reflects our ongoing discussions with

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the planning department and our clients

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willing us to modify the plans to

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address issues raised by the council's

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internal departments as well as

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objectives and we note that all of the

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council departments are supportive of

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The Proposal from very early on in the

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process our clients have sought to

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engage with neighbors and it's so

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pleasing to see so many letters of

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support including from immediately

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joining neighbors you note from the

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officer report that there was a series

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of key changes made to the plans to

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respond to  both internal concerns and

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those RIS by objectives and those

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related to modifying the shared link to

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increase  its vole and to discourage

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through traffic through the use of

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alternate caving finishes and altered

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alignment and additional

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Landscaping provision of a public pocket

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pass Jason the boss Street Frontage

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reduction in Street Wall height to car's

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Avenue from 5 to 4 stories an

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introduction of a 2.5 M setback at the

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ground floor to Ros Street to Pro

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provide for an increase width to the

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foot

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pth  introduction of a a greater

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setback at level six to provide 

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greater modulation of the built form as

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well as additional

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landscaping and provision of additional

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car parking in the basement to respond

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to concerns about  lack of parking as

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well as visic parking so there's now an

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additional 25 spaces from the advertised

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plans which includes five residential

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spaces and for office visitor spaces

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further work was undertaken following a

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consultative meeting specifically to

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address concerns regarding potential

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acoustic impacts from the shling and the

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impact of traffic on the surrounding

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Road

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Network acoustic mitigation Works will

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be undertaken and incorporated into the

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development and those were part of

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conditions of the recommend written

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recommendation  and the additional car

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parking response to concerns with car

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parking

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nbers further traffic modeling was

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undertaken  and the findings

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demonstrated that the additional traffic

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could be accommodated on the surrounding

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Road Network finding supported by the

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council's Traffic Engineers as noted

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from the officers report The Proposal

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appropriately responds to the degree of

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change and the design and built form

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objectives of dd9 as well as the

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emerging and preferred character of the

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T V complies with all relevant controls

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and policies of

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thank you Rachel thank you I will now

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invite Robert Richmond to step forward

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and read a statement in relation to item

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8.3 Amendment

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6338 for Union Street

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Windor thank you I just want to say for

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S I do support the charine in Union

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Street

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windo we live at 125 Union Street which

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is adjacent to child care we moved into

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our new home 5 weeks ago

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and 2 weeks later received a letter from

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Council with the proposed change of use

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and proposed five story building on our

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Eastern and Northern

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boundary before we purchased the

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property in July

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2023 I contacted the town planning

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department re potential development of

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the child care site whoever I spoke to

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said they had no known information

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relating to changes to the current

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situation although although now I can

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see that this change of use and Sal was

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in the blank brought a few years

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previously the question is what can

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council do to protect my family from a

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massive life story development being

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built on my Eastern and R boundary that

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will block my natural light cause

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overlooking overshadowing completely my

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remove my private open

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space a second question in the town

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planning report item

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2.4.4 west states that 125 Union Street

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is located in the general residential

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Zone which accommodates a brick office

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warehouse this is incorrect the

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warehouse is our home which we moved

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into 5 weeks ago and which we intend to

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renovate and construct and Landscape a

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pool towards that Eastern and Northern

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boundary how can Council allow this

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development to go ahead and expore his

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ental

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Zone sorry that was part of the first

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question second question

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would Council support the general

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residential Zone being applied to site

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lot one on top of plan 2231

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171q comprising the Northwestern corner

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of the site so that the controls are

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consistent with and match of the zone

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and height controls to the north west

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and south if you look at the

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plan the child care is a rectangle and

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then there's a little pocket that comes

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out that little pocket is on our B the

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boundary and that is not consistent with

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a straight line of the general

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residential will Council amend Clause 3

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section 2 permanent require of the

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schedule one to Clause 3708 Activity

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Center Zone to prohibit the land users

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of a Bottle Shop gambling Peres

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nightclub and bar given that these us

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are committed and are inappropriate for

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this site and it is not CH Street the

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residential interface and wind's The

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Village should be protected also there

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should be a maxim building he and not

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a preferred building thank you thank you

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Robert I'm so sorry sorry you can't you

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can't speak  through the meeting 

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there are just people waiting outside

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who are interested in this issue and I

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was wondering if anyone who isn't

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interested could step out just for the

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moment so that they can come

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in sorry I think  sorry I think

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everyone here is sort of interested in

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something on on the agenda tonight so I

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think it's maybe not reasonable to ask

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that

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sorry I will now invite Jamie Hernandez

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to step forward and read a statement in

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relation to item 8.3 c338  for Street

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winds up as

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well my name is Jamie and I'm the

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administrative assistant at wi Community

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children center today I speak on behalf

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of myself and the dedicated staff at our

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Center we currently serve 75 families

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and operate a near full capacity 95%

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I receive up to five calls a day from

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families within our community

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Desperately Seeking child care services

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these requests range from families

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needing to enroll their children at our

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Center those requiring additional Care

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on top of what they already receive

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elsewhere to urging care for vulnerable

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families facing challenging

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circstances many of these families are

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dealing with such standard care from

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other child care centers or are in

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vulnerable situations that require

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immediate and reliable support it is

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distressing to hear the anxiety in

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voices and to know that we cannot always

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accommodate their needs due to our

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limited T the thought of our families

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experiencing inadequate care or being

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left without any support at all Le me

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deeply unsettled wccc is more than just

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a child care center it is a vital

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community resource we provide a safe

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nurturing and high quality environment

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where children can Thrive learn and grow

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our staff are committed to offering the

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best care possible and we work

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tirelessly to support the families who

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rely on us my colleagues and I have

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dedicated our careers to this Center

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building a strong supported Community

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the potential pleasure of wccc threatens

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not only the families we served but also

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our careers the staff here many of whom

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have worked at the center for years are

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passionate professionals dedicated to

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early childhood education losing our

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jobs would be devastating not just for

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us but for the continuity and quality of

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care that our children receive my

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question is given the projected increase

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in demand for early childhood education

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Services outlined in the kindergarten

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infrastructure and services plan for

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Stonington and the officer report how

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does the council justify the closure of

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the thriving Child Care Center like

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wccc additionally what plans are in

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place to support the retention of the 30

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staff members who have dedicated years

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to the center ensuring that their

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expertise and employment are preserved

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within thank you

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[Applause]

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now invite Paul R set forward and in

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relation to item 8.3 am c338 for street

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thank you mayor  I speak today not

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only for myself but also for the other

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74 families in our community who rely on

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the winds Community Children's Center

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your agenda today highlights the glaring

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inadequacy of child care capacity within

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starington an issue underscored by the

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persistent weightless of

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wccc as a parent to depends on the

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exceptional care provided by wccc I'm

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deeply concerned about the potential l

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of this vital service which will only

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exacerbate this well docented

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problem for parents and double income

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households the possibility of losing

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wccc is alarming especially considering

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the current cost of living pressures

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which are forcing parents to work more

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not less you have the power to ensure we

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avoid a bad outcome here by supporting

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the continued operation of this

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indispensable Center wccc provides an

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exceptional quality of Education as

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evidence by its recent reaccreditation

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with an exceeding standard the large

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green space at wccc and Oasis in our

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Inner City offers children a unique

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opportunity to connect with nature and

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their cultural heritage our strong

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relationship with the local Buon

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Community enriches the children's

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education fostering a deeper

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understanding and connection to the land

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the bush Kinder programs and regular

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visits from vulnerable educators are

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integral to this

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experience moreover wcc's commitment to

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inclusivity and social justice is

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highlighted by its recent accolate the

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2024 antias award recognizing its

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excellence in implementing an antias

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curricul

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this Progressive approach combined with

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meeting all the equity and diversity

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principles set by the of Education

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ensures that wccc remains one of the

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most Forward Thinking Child Care Centers

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in Stonington the center provides a

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welcoming and supportive environment for

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all children emphasizing the importance

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of an inclusive and Equitable

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educational setting today you have the

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power to support a decision that upholds

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the integrity and future of our

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community's early childhood education

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let's take this opportunity to ensure

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that wccc continues to thrive and serve

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our children who are at the heart of our

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community I implore the council to

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consider how will you ensure that the

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high standards of early ched education

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and inclusivity provided by wccc are

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maintained if this Center is forced to

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close how will you continue to support

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culturally appropriate programs and

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services for diverse and vulnerable

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families in our community thank you Pa

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thank

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you okay we'll move on to our my main

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items of of these  Council can I have

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someone  move in second just changing

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order so we're going to move 8.3 to

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Second moved by counil Co and second by

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counselor

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Scott all right so first item up is that

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8 one sorry we need to vote sorry all

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those in

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favor thank you councilors all right 8.1

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a RIS committee by annual chairs report

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and annual assessment we have  tonight

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we have B Exel chair of ORD R committee

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attending the meeting virtually to speak

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to this item I would know i' like to

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invite them to

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speak thank you mayor just confirm you

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can hear me yes you can  thank you 

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I'm going to take the report as readed

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 and just highlight some of the key

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issues in the report  firstly a

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reminder that the audit committee has no

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executive or decisionmaking authority

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but rather we are an oversight Committee

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of council and we look at things like

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governments governments practices risk

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management and control Frameworks and

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internal and external

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audits the report tonight covers 

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November and from last year and February

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this year and I'd just like to apologize

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for the delayed delivery of this report

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but it's been due to some personal

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issues within the independent member C

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just turnning to the report I'm pleased

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to say there have been no major

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surprises coming out of any of the

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internal or external

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audits 

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the  it's it's really shown that the

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systems are largely adequate the

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processes of control are working

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reasonably well but there are

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opportunities for improvement as long

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expect and these are often around

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docentation and policies

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[Music]

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risk management has been and will

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continue to be a major focus of the

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committee and this is true of all audit

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committees but it's been particularly

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something we've looked at at Stonington

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over the last nber

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years

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 I'm pleased to say that it is an area

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that although there are acknowledged

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Improvement opportunities these are 

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recognized by management and we are been

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pleased to see see that there's a

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renewed focus on this and that the

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understanding of the value and the

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appreciation of  what can be achieved

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by looking at the business through our

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our risk management lens is it certainly

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seems to be there so we're keen to look

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at what and how that evolves over the

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next few

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years  you'll also note that we have

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completed  in this reporting period a

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self assessment which we're required to

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do annually  and it's pleasing to note

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that we've had another strong result and

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that the couple of areas that were

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highlighted in the report were already

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being looked

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on I I I think it's also important to

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say that in as part of my conclusion

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that from the our perspective from the

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perspective of the of the audit

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committee council is managing and

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responding well  in regard to

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financial control and compliance work

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and I I think it's important for me to

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say personally there's nothing that

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would keep me awake at night more

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council is managing this  the

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committee would like to thank Council

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and especially the management team for

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their support and the running of the

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committee  but personally I would also

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like to thank my other independent

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members and particularly the three

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Council members for the commitment and

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the honest contribution and that they've

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made to a robust committing thank you B

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 councilors does anyone have any

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questions before to the

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vote no can I have a move and second out

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to receive this committee by chair

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report assment by Council second by

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Council all those in

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favor car pass okay we'll move on to the

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next item which is item

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8.3 Amendment

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c338 131 to

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133 move for a

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recommendation

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Scott I'd like to  for an alternate

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 an alternate

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recommendation  so it  had some

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additions to the  officer

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recommendation in that

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 the recommendation let me just pull

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the right docent here  is asking for

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council's endorsement of a revise

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submission to the government land

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standing advisory committee on the

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proposed planning scheme Amendment c338

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Stonington  it talks to  what's on

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the screen in front of us here that

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Council will note the background set out

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in the submission  that it will note

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the amendment in the exhibited form as

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opposed and there's a hollyood detail

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there which will go to if  I get a

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chance to talk to this and if we go down

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to point three that  it asks Council

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to advocate for the land to remain in

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public ownership for educational

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uses that it notes the schedule  to

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the activity center Zone  and what

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that seeks to achieve and I'll talk to

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that in more detail as well that it

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authorizes officers to present the

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submission to the government Landing

00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.839
land standing advisory committee  it

00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:58.319
authorizes Council officers to to

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present to any future directions

00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.400
committees it writes to the minister of

00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:04.319
planning Minister for Education Minister

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.799
for Children swinburn

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:08.559
University  informing them of

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.200
council's resolution and finally  it

00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.039
assists  to assist the stallington

00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.519
community via social media and our

00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:19.000
website to participate in the statutory

00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:20.440
process I'd also like to ask for an

00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.920
amendment to that fin point that we add

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.200
in their a community Workshop so to

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.240
assist the starting to community via

00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.279
Community Workshop which again I'll talk

00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.319
to if I get the opportunity to  social

00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.519
media and the website thank you Council

00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.240
I have a second

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Council I'm assing you're happy with

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.880
the amendment Council thank you mayor so

00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:45.279
the Winds of community Childcare Center

00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.720
is amazing Community Asset it provides

00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.640
Education and Care for 54 children every

00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:53.440
day who come from approximately 80

00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.759
families who all live locally it is a

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.480
unique and purpose-built site with

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almost 40 years of History over these

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.200
years it has evolved from a university

00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.519
service for staff and students into a

00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.640
broad reaching Community Asset with a

00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.359
deeply embedded connection to local

00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.400
families in no way can it be deemed so

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.559
plus a Community member of the  sorry

00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:16.920
a Committee Member of the Early

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.799
Childhood Australia imami Today to say

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.400
that the Windsor Community children

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.160
center is beyond inspiring due to the

00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.440
fact that their team of educators are

00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.319
committed to providing Education and

00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.480
Care to implement high standards of best

00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.319
practice social justice and respect for

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.759
diversity and inclusion how can we let

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.839
this be undone to the second point there

00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.440
the  recommendation notes that the

00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.400
amendment to reone is opposed because it

00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.640
it does not promote council's stated

00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.759
aims and strategies as it's identified

00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.079
there the  Winds of place activation

00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.039
strategy the placet economic development

00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.039
strategy and Chapel Street Activity

00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.599
Center and these are these strategies

00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:01.000
and plans are consistent with state

00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.000
government policies which spell out what

00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.559
we are to that we are to increase the

00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:07.880
quality and availability of childhood

00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:08.920
Support

00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.279
Services the amendment also fails to

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.319
recognize that this site is well suited

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.680
to a community child care center it

00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.599
provides opportunities for outdoor

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.000
nature play which is a critical part for

00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.319
children who live in a highdensity area

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.799
such as Windsor with limited access to

00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.440
private open space and we know in onton

00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.720
the lack of public open space is quite

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.480
un pronounced as well the amendment also

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.440
fails to recognize impact surrounding

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.039
Residential Properties including

00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.920
overlooking overshadowing traffic visual

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.920
bulk and noise as was outlined tonight

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.400
in the submitters we heard tonight the

00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:45.839
residents who have plans for their

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.400
outdoor areas have had to put them on

00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.720
hold because any increase in Building

00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.200
height will have a direct negative

00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.079
impact on their outdoor spaces the

00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:55.480
amendment as it stands at the moment

00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.240
does not prevent adverse impacts on

00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.960
neighborhood car and Heritage Council

00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.119
recently put an interim Heritage control

00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:06.119
on 37 37 and 40 Green Street which

00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.440
prevents further constraints for

00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.240
development potential and let's not

00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:10.799
forget about the existing Heritage

00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.640
overlay for Melbourne Bowling

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.319
Club the amendment has not been informed

00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.839
by any analysis of the social community

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.680
and public benefits or values of the

00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.000
child care center or what the impacts

00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.319
are of development on the site from the

00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.480
research and Community engagement we've

00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.160
learned from our community about the

00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.759
priorities of wings up and the feedback

00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:34.119
received reflects a desire for

00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.480
familyfriendly experiences with a focus

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.200
on equity and

00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.400
wellness the amendment also doesn't

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.440
consider the the draft Stonington

00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.799
housing strategy and we know from that

00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:46.519
draft strategy that we have enough

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.200
identified residential growth zones in

00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.039
stallington to accommodate the

00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.599
population growth that we're expecting

00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.960
to see over the next few years we don't

00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.480
need to change the planning controls for

00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:58.480
more housing

00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.079
to be built we've already got the space

00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.559
for it the amendment fails to recognize

00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.680
also the Habit habitat values of the

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.759
local environment there are significant

00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.200
trees on site which provide wildlife

00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.440
habitat and  they are all at risk if

00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.599
this land is sold for development

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.640
rewelding thorington advised the site

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.839
contains acaas and shoks which provide

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:20.920
habitat for native birds our

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.920
biodiversity strategies must be taken

00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.480
into consideration on this basis alone

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.200
this recommendation advocates for the

00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.640
land to remain in public ownership for

00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.279
educational uses if the lease expires

00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.880
and the closure of this child care

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.000
center goes ahead it will mean that

00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.079
seven Child Care Centers have closed

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.000
across Stonington and Glenn Ira in

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.240
recent years seven families will be

00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.119
displaced staff will be scattered at

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.680
best and at worst they'll be out of a

00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.880
job the recommendation I'm putting

00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:54.359
forward tonight also talks to the

00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.279
activity center Zone one which seeks to

00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.720
strengthen and expand community

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.400
facilities if as a last result resoning

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.279
is approved by the state government this

00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.160
activity CER Zone acz one enables

00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.279
Council a place at the table to

00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.079
highlight that the land use 

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.799
objectives are to focus on providing a

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.759
diverse range of uses that are

00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.880
accessible to all and Advocate to

00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:20.599
strengthen and expand the educational

00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.200
role of the community I won't talk to

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.440
points 5 six or seven because they're

00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:26.960
pretty self-explanatory but just in

00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.359
terms of the community

00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.319
Workshop the  given the vole of

00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:32.599
Correspondence and the amount of people

00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.680
that are here tonight and Community

00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.480
interest more broadly Council can

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.839
support residents via electronic means

00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.359
and provide information to help them

00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.880
Lodge submissions Council can also

00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.079
participate in a community Workshop to

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.240
support people with their submission so

00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:48.680
that the target of a thousand

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.119
submissions is met by the 1st of

00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.319
August s have extension

00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.839
for minutes

00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.279
not worry pretty

00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.920
much thank thank you mayor  I want to

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.400
first of all start by thanking Council

00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.160
officers for working with Council Scott

00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.279
and myself  and also seeking external

00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:15.680
advice certainly to create this

00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.279
alternative motion which finds a a path

00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:19.920
forward to develop a submission that

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.000
advocates for this site to remain zone

00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.119
for public use we've all received

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.519
countless emails from concerned

00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.000
residents and staff who want to see this

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.200
site retained as a child care facility

00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.279
for current and future generations to

00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.680
enjoy when you look at this from a han

00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.559
and a community lands it's clear that

00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.640
resoning the land ignores the value that

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.640
offers is offered to about 80 families

00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.720
with 54 places each day for children

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.400
child care and Kinder Garden it fails to

00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.359
recognize that the Cent's been operating

00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.400
self-sufficiently since 2013 and has

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.160
evolved and adapted to as the needs of

00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.160
the community has changed recently it

00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:55.799
changed its model to actually provide

00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:57.640
more child care spaces recognizing that

00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.079
the there was less demand for Kinder

00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.960
programs where there used to be vacant

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.759
spots they now have waiting lists that

00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.640
continue to grow it's shortsighted as it

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.119
ignores the fact that housing dens as

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.400
housing densification continues we're

00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:11.920
going to actually generate more demand

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.640
for this service and not less to the

00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.359
detri of our local families it pays no

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:17.839
attention to the fact that the Census

00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.960
Data from W Windsor gives us a medi

00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.079
age of 34 with over 4,000 families with

00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:24.640
an average nber of children with 1 and

00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.279
A2 and 32% of the population aged

00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.039
between and 4 years old it disregards

00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.720
the existing environment  and the

00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.640
opportunities that are provided for 

00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.799
young children in  nature play and it

00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.440
takes no notice of the fact that the

00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.240
existing child care facilities are at

00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.119
maxim capacity and the loss of this

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.839
service will simply add more

00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.799
pressure what this amendment looks at is

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:49.440
through the planning lens so that's the

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.279
han and the community lens what this

00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:52.480
really does as it looks at it through

00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.039
the planning lenss and as such what this

00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.440
does is this this seeks to find strong

00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.440
planning rationale to object to the

00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.079
rezoning and in in doing so protect this

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.880
site  it provides legitimate ground so

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.319
that Council can have a position  that

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.239
are aligned with the terms of reference

00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:09.800
and so therefore they can be concerned

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.800
they can be   considered by the

00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.159
panel so while you might not read on

00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.000
here what you wanted to see it's because

00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.039
this has actually gone through some

00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:17.639
pretty thorough analysis to make sure

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:19.519
that we can actually defend our

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.639
position  it's the land is z as public

00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.159
use and it really needs to remain that

00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.679
way I understand that it was gifted to

00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.639
swim bur specifically Al to provide

00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.119
child care and I personally find it

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.119
morally wrong that that the site would

00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:33.480
be divested and turned into a

00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.400
development rather than investigating

00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.039
other options to transfer transfer

00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.559
ownership in my opinion any any decision

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.159
needs to be informed and led by social

00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.000
community and public benefits and not

00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.159
simply through the planning lens I know

00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:47.800
there's a really strong Community Voice

00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.760
through this one and I encourage as many

00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.199
of you as possible to make your own

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:52.639
submission and participate in the

00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.519
process I also encourage you to Advocate

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.840
to the minister of planning directly who

00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:59.920
I was reading the  online profile

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.039
today believes in equal and fair access

00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.360
to Services close to home and unlocking

00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:06.639
opportunities for women in the workforce

00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.559
obviously the gorgeous Center fulfills

00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.239
both of these

00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.159
priorities councel  thank you mayor

00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:17.559
look you you've gone through the the

00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.000
planning rationale beautifully

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.320
counselors I visited the center today

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.559
and I was really

00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.199
touched the culture the trust the

00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.320
dedication  the longevity of Staff

00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.599
Evelyn the chef has been there for 20

00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.239
years this was a place that I

00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.000
immediately walked into and felt an

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.320
enormous Community benefit from I was so

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.960
impressed  and the outdoor area for

00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.000
young children in an inner urban area it

00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:46.559
reminded me of my school days in a

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:48.519
little country town where we had 20

00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:50.920
children in a class of six and that was

00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.679
a very powerful reminder so I can only

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.400
support you counselors  in this

00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.119
alternate recommendation very very

00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.519
strongly thank you counc anyone else

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.880
like to say counc thank you I feel like

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.679
we're we're here making a choice about

00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.519
allowing the state government to obtain

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.159
a short-term financial gain or to hold

00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:13.840
it accountable for the longterm

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.239
wellbeing of our community I think it's

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:17.760
really outrageous at the state

00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.880
government's justification for this

00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.400
essential cash grab is their Community

00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.400
consultation page they have the audacity

00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.480
to claim the site is deemed Surplus to

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.800
the Victorian government current and

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.199
future requirements and I wonder if

00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.360
they've ever paid any attention to our

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.559
community at all the state government

00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.559
government themselves are imposing high

00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.440
density housing in our area so we're

00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:41.159
getting more families moving in and they

00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.199
need access to child care the state

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.599
government claims that they want to

00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.599
bolster early childhood education they

00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.440
are spending $4 billion on new centers

00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:51.840
that they're building in other areas of

00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.960
Victoria yet they're prepared to

00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.400
dissolve a highly awarded and successful

00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.159
Center here

00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.960
local childcare facilities are already

00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.039
at capacity families are struggling to

00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:03.800
find high quality and affordable places

00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.400
for their children right now and they

00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.679
only get worse and we heard in questions

00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.559
to council Miss Hernandez indicated that

00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.920
this Center is already at

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.159
capacity we know that early educ well I

00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.920
feel Early Education can't be left

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.000
entirely to the private sector the state

00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.079
government's $14 billion investment in

00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.599
child care in other locations reinforces

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.320
their understanding that private care is

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.360
not but best almost Equitable care the

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.400
National Quality ratings for Education

00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:33.280
demonstrate Community run Services

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.639
provide better outcomes for children

00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.880
than private for-profit Services 42% of

00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:40.840
community run Services receive a rating

00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.039
that exceeds National quality standard

00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.199
compared to 20% of for profit services

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.239
so 42% versus 20% that's a very big

00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.760
difference stonington's own audits sh

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:54.960
die a need for child care and even

00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:56.519
potentially a new Primary School in the

00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.719
area so the state is ignoring the future

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.400
requirements of the

00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.559
area as many of you know this is a

00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.400
deeply personal thing for me as well I'm

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.480
the M of three young

00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.559
boys and I was the  president of

00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.480
Brooklyn kindergarten for many years

00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.199
where I witnessed not only the impact of

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.719
Community Care on children but also how

00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.760
the model Fosters a very strong

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:19.960
Community just this week I've spoken to

00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.000
parents who are heartbroken they see

00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.960
families leaving our community they're

00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.119
priced out they're lacking options for

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.119
Quality child care and I see the stress

00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.920
on parents especially mothers who are

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.119
desperate to return to work being being

00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.000
held back by a system that's failing

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.000
them they asking us the leaders of this

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.000
community to be responsible parenting

00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:41.679
room to stand up and say enough is

00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.199
enough this shortsighted proposal to

00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.679
sell off this Community Asset reaps of

00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:48.039
the state government that isn't even

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.480
talking to itself let alone listening to

00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:51.639
the needs of its

00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.199
people this site isn't just any piece of

00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.679
land it's uniquely suited to nurture

00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:58.960
children is a stone throw from public

00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.239
transport ensuring easy access for

00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:02.960
families it sits on a well-connected

00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.079
road making drop offs and Pickups of

00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.519
Breeze and crucially offer something

00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.880
increasingly rare and our densifying

00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.639
Urban landscape thank

00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.079
you it gives space space for children to

00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.159
play to explore and to connect with

00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.880
nature I maintain that this land and

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.719
that size and location and connection to

00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:28.920
community is not Surplus to the needs of

00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.440
victorians now and it's definitely not

00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:33.159
Surplus to the responsibilities of the

00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.400
state government into the future we urge

00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.519
our state leaders to Choose Wisely to

00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:39.679
choose our

00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.719
children and choose the future of

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.880
[Applause]

00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.239
dominan I was fortunate enough to go to

00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.639
the open Day on Sunday and and see the

00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.000
and it it really opened my eyes up to 

00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.480
to what a what a wonderful Community it

00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.280
is there  what a wonderful job they've

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.920
done in building an oasis in what is a

00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.760
builtup area  it is a fantastic

00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:13.159
Community Asset and and watch out state

00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:14.800
government if you try and push these

00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.880
people around and try and take the S

00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.000
away from them and that's what this this

00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.400
discussion is all about tonight if we

00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.920
lose a key strategic site like that that

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:26.880
delivers such an important service you

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:28.840
will never never ever ever get it back

00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.400
and it's important that our local

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.639
residents have choice they have choice

00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.199
between going to a community based

00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.159
Center like this or to a private

00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.000
for-profit run center it's important

00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:39.960
that there be the choice there and we

00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.000
don't want to see that choice diminished

00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.440
we don't want to see our kids

00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.079
effectively kicked out on the curb and

00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.079
 and and and kicked out of this Center

00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.000
we want this Center to continue and to

00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.360
thrive and it is a really thriving

00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.639
vibrant facility  that the local

00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.000
community has built the state government

00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.559
has showing a a a complete disregard for

00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.320
long-term planning in this sort of

00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.440
thinking to to close a Senter like this

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.000
down to reone a center like this a site

00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.840
like this is is short term ISM at its

00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.760
worst we're looking at a a densified

00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.360
area of our city an area that's only

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.360
going to become more densely populated

00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.679
over time we just can't lose these sorts

00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.360
of strategic public sites that are put

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.079
to public use we need to retain that 

00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.679
it is a wonderful Center there it is a a

00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.559
beautiful facility it's clean it's well

00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.519
run it's fit for purpose and I'm sure

00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.079
that demand for that facility will only

00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.920
continue and grow over time we heard

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.559
there's 54 places provided per day 75

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.679
families depend on that service and it's

00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.239
an area that is growing I think what

00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.159
we're doing tonight with this motion and

00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:50.840
I'm hoping it's going to be unanimously

00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.360
supported  what we'll be showing is

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.239
the level of community support for this

00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.639
site for this use for this this staying

00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.280
in public public hands sending a message

00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.000
to the state government and a sense of

00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.800
unity within our local community and I

00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.760
just hope that the state government

00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.360
won't seek to to maximize monetary gain

00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.960
out of this that they will work with

00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:13.480
other levels of government to try and

00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.800
get a really good Community outcome

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:17.559
that's in the public

00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.639
interest

00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.719
than  thank you  and I just wanted

00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.039
to note everyone who's here  thank you

00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.880
for your feedback it's it's really

00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:31.840
important that when people in the

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.320
community are concerned about matters

00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.239
before Council that they do reach out I

00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.360
know that I've not been able to get back

00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:39.760
to anywhere near the nber of people

00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.239
who've contacted me about it I have

00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.320
spoken with some people but and

00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:44.800
unfortunately I couldn't get to the open

00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.280
day for the center but I hear your

00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.920
concerns I really do  they're very

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.039
valid  and I think that as other

00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:55.679
councilors have mentioned this really

00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.480
highlights the issue going on here this

00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.719
is a state government Le process this is

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.559
not a decision that Council actually

00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.280
makes we're not closing the center we're

00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.519
not doing anything to it because the

00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.360
state government has set up a process to

00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.719
change potentially look at changing the

00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.760
zoning so it's actually a process where

00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.760
we're not the responsible Authority

00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.519
making a decision on the zoning

00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.599
 we do have a very important role

00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.639
because often we are the responsible

00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.639
authorities making claiming decisions

00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.039
and that's where the community engages

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.960
normally when these matters occur and so

00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.400
we really do need to support this

00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:37.719
alternative

00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.679
recommendation because we need to

00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.000
strongly stand up and say that no this

00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.719
site is needed for our community it is

00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:47.280
needed and we're the ones who are often

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.079
making these decisions at our Council we

00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.119
know our local community we the level of

00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.880
government that's closest to the local

00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.039
community and you know we have as

00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.079
councel Scott mentioned our drops 

00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.559
housing strategy we have been doing the

00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.199
long-term work to make sure that we can

00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.960
actually increase the nber of homes

00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:12.119
built  in Stonington that we can have

00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.000
perhaps more diverse types of housing

00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.280
affordable housing and except that we do

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.760
need to have some densification and we

00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:21.719
already have very high density areas in

00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.920
winds and in South Gara and pan but but

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:26.559
we're going to see this densification

00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.639
increase the state governments announced

00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.440
a target of more than 50,000 new

00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.559
dwellings homes be built in the next 20

00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.159
years or so covering the exact  amount

00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.920
that was quoted but it is over 50,000

00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.000
now it doesn't make sense for them to

00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.159
say let's just not have educational

00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.760
zones and let's not have areas dedicated

00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.840
for child care or primary schools as

00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.840
other councilors have mentioned  when

00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:52.440
we're facing this sort of population

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.159
growth and we're looking at how we can

00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.280
do this so we provide the infrastructure

00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:01.599
for our community and it's not enough to

00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.480
just say let's build housing we have to

00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.239
have Services we have to have child care

00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.119
we have to have educational services so

00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.840
I'm quite staggered that they 

00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.559
consider b side circles to their needs

00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.079
 and that they're looking at resoning

00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.119
it  it really seems  astonishing

00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.719
that they would do this I urge you all

00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.880
everyone here who's  engaged with

00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:27.679
Council on this to engage with the state

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.519
government process because they need to

00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:33.000
give this  just a

00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:37.159
BRI by by Council said  this is so

00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.199
important because often the state

00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.880
government is a bit more distanced 

00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.599
from this sort of direct Community

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.199
feedback we have you know you can't sort

00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.760
of speak or put submissions in normally

00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:51.280
unless there's a formal process like

00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.559
this to say a sitting of parliament but

00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:55.719
you're here at our council meeting and

00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:57.800
so we're very open to hearing feedback

00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.480
directly from people so it can seem a

00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.079
bit harder this is the other reason why

00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.800
I think councilor Scot's point about

00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.239
having a community Workshop is really

00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.079
important because the sorts of processes

00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:10.880
can get legalistic they can get really

00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.239
Technical and they're kind of a bit more

00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.760
divorced from  what we're used to as a

00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:18.440
community to engage so I just urge you

00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:21.400
all to please get involved and put your

00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.239
submissions in and make your voice heard

00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.039
to the state government because that's

00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:26.639
where this decision will be made and

00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.960
where we need to get it changed thank

00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.119
you any other

00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.480
speakers thank you mayor  I won't

00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:36.840
repeat the incredibly eloquent points

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:38.320
that have already been made but I would

00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:39.760
like to begin by thanking and

00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.000
acknowledging the emails the phone calls

00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.840
the text messages the attendance no

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.840
doubt a lot of people probably watching

00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.480
online people in the hallway as well 

00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:51.599
and you're colorcoded so you're very

00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.400
easy to see  but this is what council

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.079
is about  this is what advocacy is is

00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.800
this is what lobbying is unfortunately

00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.480
though I I want to hone in the point

00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.960
made by councelor Morgan that could be

00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.239
easily missed in all of this is that

00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.440
this is a state government-led process

00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.079
and I'm not saying that because we don't

00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.760
want to be a part of it  I say that to

00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.400
mean that we didn't instigate this 

00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.000
we're not automatically in agreeance

00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.960
with this we didn't do the letter box

00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:21.920
drop that occurred whenever it occurred

00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.440
that was the state the state government

00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.480
 when that Resident contacted Council

00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:28.719
before he purchased his property and was

00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.079
told there were no plans for that site

00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.480
that was the current information that we

00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:35.679
had at that time Council was first

00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:37.639
notified of this I think in a letter to

00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.800
the mayor on or around the 21st of May

00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.239
2024 so we have been just as blind to

00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.599
this as as the rest of the community and

00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.719
I raise that because it's horrifying 

00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.719
it's it's sad to me what a disconnect

00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.320
there is between the local government

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.239
sector and the state government when I

00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.480
think if we were working in Partnership

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.519
irrespective of which party was in

00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.320
government so much more would be

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:03.800
achieved and I think councilor Morgan

00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:05.800
was spot on when she said that the state

00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.199
is distance from this they're not here

00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:09.800
they're not hearing you they're not

00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:11.960
living it they're not near that site we

00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.960
see how dense things are we know what

00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.760
that area looks like we know that it's

00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.440
crazy to say it's a surplus it's Surplus

00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.000
land there's no such thing in in areas

00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:22.800
like Windsor or really anywhere across

00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.119
Stonington so I really do just wanted to

00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:26.760
make that point that we are just a

00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.039
submitter in this unfortunately and we

00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.199
will put our best foot forward thanks to

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.599
councelor Scott and councelor Bol 

00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.480
with our submission but I'm also told

00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.119
that we have to be careful and we can't

00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.320
really refer to the existing rights at

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.719
the standing committee because and I

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.079
wrote this down to get it right  the

00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.239
standing committee is only interested in

00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.079
the change of Zone from public useth

00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.719
education to Activity Center one so we

00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.800
will have to be careful how we word this

00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.880
how we position this to do our best to

00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.199
get the point  to get the point across

00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:01.000
and I will finish by saying that this is

00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.639
a shortsighted cash grab and it is

00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.119
shortsighted as Council Co said this

00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.719
Council decades ago sold off various

00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.000
pieces of land to to cash in at those

00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.880
times and we live with those decisions

00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.840
today and we regret those decisions

00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:16.480
because we can't get those  those

00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.360
sites back so my advice to anyone out

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.320
there and and all of you here today is

00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.519
to Lobby to the planning Minister Lobby

00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.440
to state state MPS as well everyone you

00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.719
can can we hear you I think it's clear

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.920
that we've definitely heard you  but

00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.000
unfortunately our voice will only carry

00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:34.239
us so

00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.360
far thank you

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.079
CC  thank you Mr Mayor I have a

00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.760
question through you to the officers 

00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:44.280
step two of  the government land

00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.920
declared Surplus process is the land is

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.519
offered to all state government

00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.000
departments agencies local government

00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.039
and Commonwealth government for 60 days

00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.360
known as the first right of refusal my

00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.719
question is was this offer to the city

00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.039
of

00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.800
Stonington inch

00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.639
2023 okay has that did we consider it as

00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.559
a potential purchase for the future

00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.840
needs of our community  through you

00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.159
may yes indeed from two points of view

00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.679
one was  in line with our strategies

00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.440
for creating open space and we

00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.840
determined that  it was not at face of

00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.760
land we wanted to acquire and turn into

00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.000
open space  in terms of the future

00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.000
need for Child Care  director Harry's

00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:33.559
probably better placed to explain  our

00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.599
needs in future but Council simply

00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.480
doesn't have the money to be able to

00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.400
afford to acquire the site which at the

00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:43.360
time my understanding was Val $4 million

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:48.159
okay  well given the community views

00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.039
on this and the passion that's behind it

00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.920
can I ask if the Mover and seconder

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.440
would consider including another point

00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.960
that Council revisits that decision just

00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:58.559
for consideration as to whether there's

00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.079
an opportunity where we can relook at it

00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.599
4 months on as an opportunity

00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:08.199
potentially  purchase the

00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:10.880
side absolutely just to be clear though

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.239
more month back in 2020 oh sorry my

00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:14.679
apologies I've just come back from an

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:16.320
overseas holiday I'm still in Holiday

00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.199
mode so thank you but can I ask that

00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.440
which re reaffirms my point further 

00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.519
that that Council just considers that

00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.280
obviously we can't it's not set in stone

00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.440
but at least has a look at it as

00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.400
councilor clar I don't want to debate it

00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.480
but I I'll mention it but if the move

00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.440
and seconder would be came to consider

00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.679
that as another step it's just the word

00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.800
isuse that comes up but yeah in in

00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:41.480
essence it sounds good Lauren do you

00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:43.599
need to help hand with

00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:47.760
that coun  I'll get the wording right

00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.760
so that I'm speaking to what's actually

00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:54.679
been reconsiders  the possibility of

00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.280
the purchase of the site

00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.880
through our future fund or open

00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.480
space few yeah through our future fund

00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:04.599
or

00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.079
other let's just leave it open we

00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:09.800
reconsider the possibility of purchasing

00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.280
the site and go through its proper

00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.280
process as we would do for any sites

00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.320
that c

00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.679
purchase second

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.280
so my son went to  winds Community

00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.880
children center back in 2022 so I can

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.599
speak from personal  2002 sorry I can

00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.360
speak from personal experience and it

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.000
was a wonderful time for my family 

00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.079
James had a fantastic time there his

00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.760
Nelly 23 which is quite scary  and 

00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.519
and I just know having that facility at

00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.800
my doorstep was not only fantastic for

00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.119
me as a a working parent I was also on

00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:57.639
council at the time  being able to be

00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.159
able to take my son know that he was in

00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.199
good hands and it was also a great

00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:02.880
opportunity for my parents who live in

00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.079
pan as well to pick him up so if I got

00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.079
held up at work so I know the importance

00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:08.840
and I know the passion I know there's a

00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.119
few familiar faces in the gallery who

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.320
haven't changed over 20 years which is

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:17.079
is nice to see so  good on you for

00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.760
being here tonight being colorcoded and

00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.960
being so passionate and as we've all

00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:23.800
said apologies for not getting back to

00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.320
everybody actually came back early from

00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.679
the holiday to be here tonight knowing

00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.119
 how important this is for our

00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.840
community  we've seen bad decisions

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:33.440
like this where governments have sold

00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.800
off land I went to pran Primary School

00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.960
you're all too young to remember pran

00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:39.679
primary school but that would used to be

00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:41.159
on the corner of High Street and per

00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.039
Street it was a massive site I used to

00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.039
jp over my parents' Back Fence to get

00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.679
there and  and now what is it it's

00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.599
it's all in a city living and what did

00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.280
we see when we lost that site we see

00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.119
porter porter you know classrooms put up

00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.360
on South Primary School armad Windsor

00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.519
straight away there was a huge deficit

00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.000
as more and more people moved into the

00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.639
area so it's a you know it's it's just

00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:06.920
pure pure poor planning on behalf of the

00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.320
government same with pan high school we

00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.039
saw that go and what happened decades

00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.079
later we're rebuilding it at a huge cost

00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.360
you know  on the same side on the High

00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.880
Street end that it goes on and one of

00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.719
the things which was touched on you know

00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.920
one of the things we we've regret as a

00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.400
council was  decades ago some public

00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.000
land got sold off and was turned into in

00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.880
into residential development when that

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.559
wouldn't have been an ideal piece of

00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:34.400
land in South Thea to have kept for our

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.199
community so and same with pan square

00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.840
that was an opportunity that nearly got

00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:40.639
sold through the casting vot of the

00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:42.360
miror of the day it was stay in

00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:43.519
council's hand that was going to be

00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.639
another retail Center and now it's a

00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.039
great public open space for our

00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:51.000
community to use so I think yes 14

00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.400
million or whatever it is is a lot of

00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.159
money but when you reflect back on these

00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:56.639
nbers in 20 30 years time of growing

00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.559
Community  sometimes you've got to

00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.840
make that hard call  to do the right

00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.119
thing for the community and and we've

00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:04.679
we've seen that with the the recent

00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:06.400
development of pan square and other

00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.960
initiatives that council's done hanging

00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.000
on to pan Market that was almost on the

00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.559
cards of being sold many decades ago I

00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.840
remember my mom protesting back in the

00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:18.239
day at  pran Council meetings so look

00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.280
good on you  you're fighting the good

00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.039
fight this is so heartening for us as

00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.159
counselors It's we don't we haven't had

00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.760
a pack gallery for a long time so we're

00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:28.920
very glad that  that you're all here

00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.360
and showing your passion and it makes us

00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:33.719
as representatives of the community feel

00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.159
you know that that we're here and we're

00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:36.960
able to serve you and and get the right

00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.320
outcome so I can't thank you enough and

00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.559
I encourage you get out there speak to

00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.639
your local politicians we stopped we

00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.079
listened we're here got a great  great

00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:48.239
motion here before you all tonight do

00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.519
the same thing  with your local

00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:52.199
members get out there and let them be

00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.280
known how passionate you are about this

00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:57.079
and  and we'll be there to support you

00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:01.119
all the way so thank you thank you for

00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.360
joining thank you councel s I might just

00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.320
make a few comments I was initially

00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.599
approached by S who handed me a letter

00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.079
on on at a n off week event at winds

00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.039
aiding and it was the first I've heard

00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.880
about it I I have to I just wanted to

00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.519
applaud your coordinated approach to the

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.960
emails the text the phone calls there

00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.119
have been so many of

00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.760
 I I apologize to anyone that I

00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:31.280
haven't responded to this just the

00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:33.559
vole has been fantastic I also

00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:36.519
attended the open day yesterday as well

00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.280
 and now fortunately the local member

00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:40.719
and the federal member were both there

00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.559
they both  obviously  working with

00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.159
your group as well to sort of maybe come

00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.280
up with the desired outcome but my

00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.280
advice to you is you know beyond this

00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.000
evening you know that's it's this is not

00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.599
the end of it I urge you to continue 

00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:58.679
to make submissions to the state

00:56:58.760 --> 00:56:59.880
government when this goes to the

00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:02.880
planning Minister and I just want to 

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:04.800
wish you all the best of

00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:09.239
well division can before we go to s up

00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:10.440
there were some questions that were

00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:13.360
asked in the

00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.280
the presentations earlier toight I think

00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.199
given the amount of people are here it's

00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.159
worth while spending some time asking

00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.639
Council officers those questions so that

00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:24.440
the  the people of you tonight can get

00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:26.840
a full response sure  so the first

00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:28.960
question was what can council do to

00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.280
protect families in adjacent properties

00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:34.079
from the massive five story development

00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:36.280
being built on the eastern and Northern

00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:38.000
boundary that will block natural light

00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.880
cause overlooking overshadowing and

00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.679
completely remove their private open

00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.719
space thank you  through you may the

00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.400
proposed resoning doesn't me development

00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.519
that only takes place VI a planning

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.880
permit that would still be required for

00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.239
any development on the side and that

00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:57.920
with an assessment of the planning

00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.599
permit if it is reone would take into

00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:03.880
account offsite and many

00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.159
impacts the second question is we intend

00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.360
to renovate and to construct landscaping

00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:09.800
and a pool towards the Eastern and

00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:11.880
Northern boundary how can Council allow

00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:13.400
a five story development to go ahead

00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.559
next to a residential Zone  through

00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.599
you may the proposed resoning doesn't

00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.679
change the allowable height on the site

00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:21.239
this is already a control in our

00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.559
planning scheme  The Proposal does

00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.440
incorporate a side set back requirement

00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:29.760
 where one doesn't currently

00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:33.119
exist thank you the next question is the

00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:34.880
residential interface and winds a

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.039
village should be protected will Council

00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.079
prohibit the land uses of Bottle Shop

00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.519
gambling premises nightclub and bar

00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:44.719
given these uses are permitted in the

00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:47.320
acz one and are inappropriate for the

00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:49.440
site as it is not on CH

00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:53.239
Street 3 if the site is resigned to

00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.679
activities resign shedule one any future

00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:59.079
proposal for any use will be assessed

00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.320
against the requirements of the activity

00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.239
center Zone schedule  and by any of

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:06.800
the other relevant Provisions in the

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.119
Stonington planing scheme which includes

00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:11.360
the impact of a new use on the

00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:12.719
surrounding

00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:16.280
prop and third last question if the

00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:17.960
public use Zone was removed would

00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.599
Council support the general residential

00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.639
Zone being applied to that unusual site

00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.679
little bit of sticky outy bit  I think

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.599
it's lot one on the title plan

00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.320
comprising the Northwestern corner of

00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:30.880
the site so that the controls are

00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.000
consistent with and match the zone and

00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.880
height controls to the Northwest and

00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:39.360
South you to to restate that the land is

00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:42.000
landlocked which means there's no access

00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.239
to the street or laneway or a street or

00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.400
laneway that's one of the reasons why

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.719
Council officers have recommended it be

00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.440
Consolidated up to one site by in sale

00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:53.880
 if it is

00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.960
Consolidated  the planing sche does

00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:58.599
doesn't entertain split zones which is

00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:02.440
what's been posited I think  one side

01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.039
in multiple zones if lots are not

01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.639
Consolidated it be difficult to dispose

01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.599
of this lot independently without being

01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:11.719
attached to the lot that does have

01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.920
access to a ro

01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.920
L  and with regard to the second

01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:21.800
submitters questions  given the

01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:23.719
project at increasing demand for Early

01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.159
Childhood Center  education through me

01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:28.679
 outlining the kindergarten

01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.679
infrastructure and services plan for

01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.920
Stonington and the officer report how

01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:34.639
does council justify the closure of a

01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.599
thriving share

01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:42.840
Center through   this as as been

01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.039
this process  we would say that there

01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.719
is Will Be A continuing challenge for

01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.159
places

01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:56.400
right  and we would say that very high

01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.280
and finally  what plans are in place

01:00:58.360 --> 01:00:59.920
to support the retention of 30 staff

01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.519
members who have dedicated years to the

01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:03.800
center ensuring that their expertise and

01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.559
employment are preserved within our

01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:08.400
local community Through you may 

01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.800
obviously whatever this process  

01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.039
continues through  we know that there

01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.800
is an extraordinary team led by a very

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:19.199
extraordinary director  and we

01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.840
continue to offer

01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:28.599
 so in summary I mean it's all been

01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.280
said so I'll just kind of wrap it up as

01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.039
best I can to say that we have a council

01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.119
plan which is like our job description

01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.119
that we s on to every four years and

01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:40.679
that council plan says that this Council

01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:43.440
will be people centered future ready and

01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.880
Community focused and I think tonight

01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:47.679
we've demonstrated that we

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.280
are this alternative recommendation

01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.559
cements our Collective Vision as a group

01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.199
of councils into today's reality and it

01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.039
holds us to account for the words we say

01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.280
and the actions we take I want to be

01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.840
really clear I think all of us here want

01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:04.960
the land to remain in public ownership

01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.079
for Education uses I don't want to see

01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.760
the destruction of this much loved and

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:11.400
cherished Child Care Center I don't want

01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.320
to see  overdevelopment impacting

01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.400
local amenity or residents who are

01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.960
trying to live in the communities that

01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.079
they know and they trust I do ask

01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:22.719
councils to support this recommendation

01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:24.639
wholeheartedly and am seeking your

01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.400
unanimous support we have an obligation

01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.639
and a responsibility to look at the

01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.760
provision of child care holistically and

01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.679
not in isolation not just to everyone

01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:37.639
here tonight and online but for future

01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.920
Generations who will rely on exceptional

01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.280
services such as the Winds of community

01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.079
Childcare Center than you

01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.440
okay after the first

01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.639
V okay let's put it to the vote all

01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:55.239
those in favor very anly Division

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:57.719
division all those in

01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.760
favor councel hey councel Bal councelor

01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.840
Pasar councel Griffin councel Coast

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.800
councelor Scott councelor s and councel

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.920
mor councel

01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.599
J okay thank you if if you'd like to

01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:28.719
leave me you can you don't no

01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:34.840
obligation that was exciting let's move

01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.079
on to the next item which is 8.2

01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.880
planning application for 17 to9 and 7

01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.679
to1

01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:49.239
a the alterate for an alterate motion

01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:52.519
briefly explain the differ yes thank you

01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:54.039
the alternative motion is simply a

01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:55.719
reduction in the building building High

01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:58.119
by two floors  so that the building is

01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.119
a maxim of six stories with an overall

01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.920
Building height of 22.4 M and those

01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.760
floor that would be deleted would be

01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:08.480
levels five and six thank you Council CL

01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:09.880
second for

01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.239
this Council

01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:14.719
Scott  thank you mayor look this

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.599
proposal seeks to construct an eight

01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.440
story mixed use development over a

01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.639
basement I won't go into all the detail

01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:21.880
because I've got a lot to talk about the

01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.119
height a total of 80 182 car spaces are

01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:26.960
provided over three levels of basement

01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:29.960
car park it's in a commercial Zone one

01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.280
with a DDO 9 it's one of three key

01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:37.760
strategic sites in the TAC Village 

01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.480
there were 48 objections and 30 level

01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.480
letters of support these are all set out

01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:44.760
in this report  the objections were

01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.159
around the built form the visual bulk

01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.920
including height mass and setbacks the

01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.840
support was around design and

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.840
architecture councilor hilly and I

01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.400
attended the consult meeting in December

01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:59.440
and in May 24 the applicant submitted

01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.119
revised plans all of which had positive

01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.719
benefits including to provide a small

01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:06.840
pocket park to modify the Carter Avenue

01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:10.360
street wall from 5 to four levels  all

01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.960
this is set out on page 19 there is no

01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:14.519
argent about the design of the

01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.199
building and the use of excellent

01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:19.599
globally recognized Architects this

01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:21.800
alternative focuses on the height and

01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.039
the recommendation to remove two lower

01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.079
levels rather than the top level which

01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.960
is very recessed by removing two levels

01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.559
the building height would still be

01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.320
marginally but acceptably over the upper

01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.159
level of the structure plan guideline

01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.159
the guidance provided to developers and

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.880
residents by the dd9 design development

01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:43.760
overlay 9 tur Village Activity Center

01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.679
reinforces a moderate consolidation and

01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:49.239
Redevelopment of the center by stating a

01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.679
preferred Building height of 3 to 6

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.079
stories I.E up to 20 M the fact that

01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.639
this is a key strategic site referred to

01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:59.880
many times in the report makes the

01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:02.400
outcome even more important and not a

01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.159
reason to go above and beyond the

01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.840
structure plan in height the mass of the

01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.519
building is there by Dent of the site

01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:10.719
throughout the report there are

01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:12.800
references to the northern side of turac

01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:15.760
having two higher buildings 8 and 11

01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.440
stories as a justification for ignoring

01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.119
the structure PL the northern side is a

01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.039
very different site to the southern side

01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.880
of tur Road it is an island site founded

01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.599
by wide streets with only one

01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:29.400
residential building and we all know

01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.199
that the AO Age Care  residents

01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:33.800
strongly objected to one of those

01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:35.880
developments on the southern side of

01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.280
turac which is the side we're

01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.360
considering the highest building is six

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.679
stories and there is a good reason for

01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:43.599
this unlike the island side of the north

01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.159
the southern side of turac is

01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:47.639
characterized by closely compacted

01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.719
lowrise commercial and residential

01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.280
properties may I do not agree that an

01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.320
eight-story building I.E 20 8.98 M

01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.239
excluding rooftop and lift overruns

01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.320
44.9% over the council's own structure

01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.480
plan provides an appropriate transition

01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.920
down to the lower scale form to the

01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.920
south in the residential hland we are

01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.239
talking here about two very narrow and

01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.239
intimate residential streets which

01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.599
currently AB but the lowrise commercial

01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.480
buildings closer to turat Road I'm

01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:24.079
particularly concerned about this

01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:27.119
statement in the report on page 27 that

01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:29.119
the visibility of this eight-story

01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.760
building would diminish and be shielded

01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:34.000
by other higher built forms as the

01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:36.320
center gradually develops in accordance

01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:37.239
with

01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:41.480
dd9 the dd9 specifies height of 3 to 6

01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.239
story so how can this happen I think

01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.199
this might also alarm residents who

01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.199
rightfully expect that Council will

01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.639
abide by its own structure plan this

01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:52.960
would be of concern to those hundreds of

01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:55.159
residents who choose to live proximately

01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.119
to to Village so they can walk to shop

01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.559
eat and go about their lives in an

01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.960
environmentally friendly manner I don't

01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.079
have the time to talk about the cry

01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:07.960
Avenue street walls being above the dd9

01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.920
specification or the impact of increased

01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:14.480
traffic flows of 182 cars on these two

01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.119
narrow streets which lead nowhere my

01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:18.960
concern is that we as a council are

01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.399
seeing a recommendation for a building

01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:22.760
that is

01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:25.520
44.9% over council's own preferred

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.079
highight justifying this in part by

01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.399
noting that there may be other buildings

01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.840
that could be as high or higher despite

01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.560
our own structure plan I believe

01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.279
residents have a right to expect that

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:39.000
Council will conform to its own

01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.079
structure plan and even at six stories

01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.800
this building is 22.4 m still above the

01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:48.680
20 M preferred high end of the structure

01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.359
PL an eight-story building on these two

01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:53.159
narrow streets Ross Street and Carter

01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:55.680
Avenue is way out of s not only with the

01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:57.319
structure plan but in terms of the

01:08:57.399 --> 01:08:59.640
streetcape and the residential finter

01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:01.199
land that The Bu his

01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:03.880
side it indicates to developers that

01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.319
this Council structure plan has no real

01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.079
purpose has no teeth and can be ignored

01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:11.960
that is not what thousands of residents

01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:14.239
who live approximate to Tac Village

01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.960
expect it does not give them Assurance

01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:19.960
about their street Gates and amenity as

01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:22.520
one has emailed me if Stonington this is

01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:24.439
a local Trader and someone who did it if

01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:26.239
Stonington has a height limit of six

01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.159
stories I cannot see why technically

01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.880
economically or morally an eight story

01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:34.479
building should be accepted I ask

01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:37.880
councilors to support this

01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:41.439
[Applause]

01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.239
recommendation Council look I've got a

01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:45.880
different view on this and I'm hardly

01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.600
someone that  that supports high-rise

01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:51.479
development  in general but I read

01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:53.680
this report I I looked at the officer

01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:55.479
recommendation I also listened the

01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.199
feedback from the community and I'm

01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.720
going to disappoint some in my local

01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.119
community but I'll also make other

01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:01.800
people in the local community happy

01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:04.279
because I know that there are quite a

01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:06.279
nber of people in the turac area that

01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:07.760
actually support this proposal and

01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:09.439
that's born out in the office's report

01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:10.720
when it says that there were 48

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:13.279
objections from 39 properties but also

01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.880
30 letters of support from 33 properties

01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.840
so pretty pretty split 50/50 almost when

01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:20.359
it comes to objectives and letters of

01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.560
support and we hardly ever get planning

01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:24.119
applications where there are letters of

01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.119
support this is quite quite unique I

01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.119
usually hear from countless residents

01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:30.439
when there's a contentious planning

01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.479
application in my ward North ward in

01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:34.920
this occasion I've only had one or two

01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.479
people contact me  since this report

01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:40.119
has become public so I I don't think

01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:41.640
there's a lot of concern in the local

01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:43.720
community on this planning application

01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:45.760
that's not my sense as a locally elected

01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:47.800
representative and I look at this on its

01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:49.920
planning merits and it just Stacks up on

01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:51.560
on all of them in terms of the built

01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.159
form it Stacks up height is Justified in

01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:55.880
this office's report it's explain that

01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:57.760
it's a strategic site there's the

01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:59.960
setbacks there have also been further

01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:01.840
concessions made since the consultative

01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.000
meeting and that's all outlined in the

01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:07.119
report  there's transition in he and

01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:09.920
scale  this is not an overdevelopment

01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.439
this is a very high quality development

01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:14.239
of the sort we actually want to see and

01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.680
then will add to the economic 

01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:18.760
viability of the area that will benefit

01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:20.279
the area and I was quite surprised to

01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:21.880
hear that the Traders Association

01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:23.920
actually said as recently as today that

01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.479
they're not supportive of this that that

01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:27.239
really really surprised me because I

01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.279
thought they would be all in favor of

01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.000
this because it is going to to improve

01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.760
the area and leave a positive Legacy it

01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.000
is higher than the recommended height

01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:39.399
but it's a recommended height and when

01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:40.840
you've got a recommended height it's

01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:43.239
open to interpretation you've got to

01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:45.119
interpret it through the context of the

01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.760
site how it layers and so forth  there

01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:51.760
is the the connectivity between  Ross

01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.920
Street and Carter Avenue now there's the

01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.319
public open space and the height is

01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:58.760
placed where it will have minimal impact

01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.119
so I think there is regard for the DDO I

01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:04.640
think the DDO is doing what it should do

01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:06.359
yes it's two stories higher than the

01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:10.520
recommended height by 8.98 m it's 28.98e

01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.840
high in in total at the highest point

01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:15.239
but I think that is Justified in this

01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:17.560
instance because it's on a strategic

01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.399
site and the way it has been designed so

01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:23.800
look I I looked at it carefully I I did

01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.600
hear concern from from some local

01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:28.760
residents but also support from others

01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:30.840
I've listened to the officers in in in

01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:32.399
in what they've had to say I've made up

01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:34.720
my own mind and For Better or For Worse

01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:36.199
I I will be supporting this this

01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.239
application as it is I will not be

01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:40.199
supporting the alternate and I think it

01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:41.680
will leave a positive Legacy for the

01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:45.199
local community and and when we see 

01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:46.920
strategic sites developed I think this

01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.239
is the sort of thing we want to see

01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:51.119
really high quality

01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:52.359
[Applause]

01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.279
stuff coun

01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.720
I found one a really really hard

01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.399
decision to make

01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.680
 there has been unprecedented

01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:07.680
Community engagements around the project

01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:09.800
as  Council Griffin said we've had

01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:11.560
supporters as well as objectiv and we

01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:14.439
very rarely have that  there's a pable

01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.720
excitement for the re revitalization of

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.239
the development  that that

01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:24.279
promises  and there seems to be a a

01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.720
vole of Desire for a more vibrant

01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.119
track Village  this isn't just any

01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.159
site it's a key site one of three

01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:33.640
designated within the village for

01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.119
significant transformation our planning

01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:38.399
scheme in the track Village activity 

01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:40.399
Center policy have prepared us for this

01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:42.600
moment calling for increased density

01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.920
housing diversity and economic growth

01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.479
and the project  doesn't just meet but

01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.239
it it surpasses those objectives and the

01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:52.079
applicants commitment to incorporating

01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:53.680
Community feedback has been really

01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:55.760
commendable so consider about the shed

01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:58.039
link the procket Park Street wall

01:13:58.119 --> 01:13:59.920
Heights overshadowing and even car

01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:01.920
parking will been addressed through

01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.039
really thoughtful redesign and that

01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:06.039
collaborative approach sets a really

01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:07.760
positive president for future

01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.119
developments in the village however

01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:12.279
while I applaud many of the Project's

01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.680
many merits I I am concerned about the

01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.800
community's Reliance on the dd9 as a

01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:19.920
blueprint for future development

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.119
residents have made decisions about

01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:24.159
where to live based on the insurances

01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:26.920
provided by planning scheme  and the

01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.199
DB9 clearly outlines the preferred

01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.159
maxim height and exceeding this limit

01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:34.039
even where the well design project can

01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.239
erode trust and create uncertainty about

01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:39.239
future development patterns  also

01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.239
reflect as Council Griffin talked about

01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:42.800
the difference between the North and the

01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:44.560
South of the village and the fact that

01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.479
this really does transition to

01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:49.119
residential

01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:51.920
developments  by reducing the height

01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.159
to six stories which will still be over

01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.479
that maxim height limit  I think

01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.920
that we can get closer to maintaining a

01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:01.960
village character  six story still

01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:03.720
allows for a significant development

01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:04.880
which would be more in keeping with

01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.159
existing preferred building Heights and

01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:09.159
as Mr Cohen spoke about earlier in this

01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.279
meeting we are discussing question to

01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:12.840
the council we need to make sure that we

01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:14.880
keep that sense of the village feeling

01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.600
like a village I think also reinforces

01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.000
Community Trust by keep adhering to the

01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:21.720
DD 9's preferred height limit it

01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.560
demonstrates our commitment to

01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.840
responsible development and and 

01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:27.840
reinforce our communties trust in our

01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:28.840
planning

01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.039
framework  except for my height

01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.039
concerns I think this is an amazing

01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:37.199
development of incredibly high standard

01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.760
 yes thank

01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:45.079
you for my remaining s thank you  so I

01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.199
want to embrace the the the the

01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.920
development is fantastic the design is

01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.439
fantastic I just really concerned about

01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.920
those two extra 

01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.039
thank thank you mayor  yeah look

01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:03.760
there's no arguing that this is a great

01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:05.560
design outcome and and I'm always

01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.119
supportive of applicants who work with

01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.159
officers and amend and redesign their

01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:10.920
application in response to objectives

01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.960
concerns and and that is that is always

01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:17.520
we don't always see that  Ward

01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:18.800
councils are conflicted on this

01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:20.520
application so it comes as no surprise

01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:22.560
that  as a non-l counselor I'm also a

01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:23.840
little bit conflicted on this

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.000
application so I spent some time today

01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.079
reading the structure of plan and trying

01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:29.920
to get my head around it  TR Village

01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.359
is obviously outside of my ward I'm not

01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:33.760
as familiar with it as the ward

01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:35.439
councilors and I really tried to

01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:36.720
understand what the design objectives

01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:38.920
are and buil form requirements and the

01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:40.720
parameters and the envelopes that are in

01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.720
there to to set the preferred Direction

01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.920
and what was clear to me was I saw this

01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.239
site was nominated as a key strategic

01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:50.000
site in the change area in our planning

01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:51.840
scheme but there were some additional

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:54.119
notes in there too  that new new

01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:55.680
dwellings will be accommodated an

01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:57.279
apartment accommodation on the upper

01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.359
levels above retail commercial hub tick

01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:01.800
that's in there  but there were two

01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:03.119
sites that were really cool at this one

01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.159
and the other one on Turk Road  that

01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:08.039
could  but the one on Turk Road was

01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:09.279
the one that was really identified for

01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:11.680
the high density compared to this site

01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.319
so the structural plans actually

01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.279
specified that this site had the

01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.319
opportunity for larger Apartments 

01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.600
given the demand in the community and it

01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:21.960
said 45 Apartments could be achieved

01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:24.279
over four stories with a ratio of 1 to

01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:26.520
200 met so saying it can be achieved if

01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.319
there's a smaller apartment it didn't

01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.520
predict 40 43 dwellings over eight

01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.920
stories  and it looked at it as a

01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.039
Consolidated one site it didn't look at

01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:38.640
it as multiple titles  so it also

01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:40.760
there was a sentence in there that said

01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.479
 recognizes that new development south

01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.119
of ter Road particularly in Canterbury

01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.239
Road Ross Street and Carter Avenue needs

01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:48.000
to give careful consideration to

01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:50.079
residential interfaces and the relative

01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:51.880
narrowness of the streets and exess

01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:55.399
paths so I've got a whole  a whole

01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:57.479
bunch of reasons as to why I I therefore

01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.720
I'm going to support councelor Griffin I

01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:01.399
think the key is the dd9 actually

01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.800
doesn't it has those guidelines it has

01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:05.159
those guidelines for reason it's gone

01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:06.960
through a very very prolonged process to

01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:09.239
get to that point  and we should be

01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.479
adhering to those parameters  and 

01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:15.600
and and I and I I think Council hil's

01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.199
point about the Community Trust against

01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:19.640
the dd9 is also one that I hadn't

01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:21.840
thought of and it's very very important

01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:25.880
thank you speakers

01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:30.039
thanks mayor so I did  second this 

01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:34.239
orate from Council Griffin  which is

01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:36.640
unusual because I'm not a war counselor

01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:39.520
 but it seems to be pretty clear to me

01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.800
 that this is and overdevelopment I

01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.720
mean we've just heard tonight from our

01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.640
community about overdevelopment and the

01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:48.560
impacts of amenity and neighborhood

01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:51.319
gener time when something is built that

01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:53.039
is not what our community expects to be

01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.359
built in that location what we're

01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:57.479
talking about potentially is an

01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.079
eight-story building that sits on two

01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.479
very narrow streets which is out of sync

01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:05.720
 with the rest of the built 

01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:07.000
landscape and

01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:08.520
streetscape

01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:10.800
 there's been a lot already said so I

01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:12.319
won't go over the stuff that's already

01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.039
been talked about with regard to the D

01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:16.840
structure plan  it does set a

01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.159
precedent for future development and

01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.399
potentially over development  and

01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:22.880
that's concerning especially when we

01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:25.479
talk to  trust Within our

01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.319
community yes there were 40 objections

01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.439
and 30 supports and I just had a quick

01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.399
look at their locations and again I'm

01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.000
not really across the streets in and

01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.119
around that area but it doesn't seem

01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.319
that those  people

01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:42.399
supporting  the officer recommendation

01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.399
had a direct and immediate impact on

01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.199
this site going ahead  we know that

01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:50.520
overdevelopment is not what the

01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:52.640
thousands of residents who live around T

01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:55.239
Village and across Stonnington would

01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.319
respect and this doesn't give

01:19:57.399 --> 01:19:59.159
reassurance to Residents about their

01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.000
street Scapes inunity who were to

01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.800
approve the officer

01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.680
recommendations

01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.479
speak  I found this line really

01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:13.119
difficult to work out what to decide 

01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.079
because I think both Council Griffin and

01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:18.600
Council coose have made really

01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:20.319
persuasive speeches for their

01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:21.520
perspective so I just wanted to

01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:25.560
acknowledge that  but I would say that

01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:27.239
 the fact that there is a structure

01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.439
plan is really important to me  I do

01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.199
think and you know there's been examples

01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:34.680
in stallington in the past where we

01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:36.279
haven't had structure plans and we've

01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.479
had bad outcomes at bcap and I think

01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:40.960
that where we do have a structure plan

01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:42.640
we've got to really be able to

01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:46.640
justify  if we're going significantly

01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.279
Beyond its

01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.439
parameters sometimes it can be justified

01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:53.920
I guess they are recommendations I just

01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:55.239
I'm

01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:58.800
I think out of caution and because you

01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.479
know this is something where you could

01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:02.000
really go either the way it is it is a

01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.039
really impressive  proposal here so I

01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.399
can see why it's hard for everybody but

01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:12.199
I do think that  you know it it is two

01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:14.039
levels really beyond what it should be

01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.920
according to the structure plan so I'm

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.119
inclined to support Council Griffin 

01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.960
but it's been it's been a very difficult

01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:25.920
decision and I have heard  all the

01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:27.640
feedback we've received as well I have

01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.720
received some contact from  some 

01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:32.039
residents who have been concerned about

01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.520
the emails

01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.119
 but also looking at you know the fact

01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:38.920
that there's  people for and against

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.880
it it could you know out of respect for

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.600
any of my colleagues who maybe support

01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.720
the officer's recommendation it's a very

01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:46.960
genuinely difficult decision but I I

01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:50.560
will support Council gring on this

01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:55.720
one  really just reiterate there's no

01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:57.920
argent about the quality of the design

01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.880
or the architecture that's all fantastic

01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:03.359
but the fact is it is a 44% Point 9%

01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.159
overrun of the council's own structure

01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:07.760
plan and I do not believe it it provides

01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:09.800
an appropriate transition down to the

01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.239
lowest scale residential buildings in

01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.039
those two very narrow streets thank you

01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:17.159
may thank

01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:21.600
you put to the right in

01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:24.960
favor and always against

01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.119
okay

01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:30.720
so sorry motion is carried all right so

01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:32.119
and now for the division all those in

01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:35.239
favor Council hilly Council B Council

01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:37.800
Griffin councel Scott councel Morgan and

01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:41.279
councel J all those against counc

01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:46.159
Council Co Council motion is thank you

01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:51.039
Council okay let's move on to item

01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:56.119
8.4 community program so coun going to

01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:59.920
do parts

01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.159
[Applause]

01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:09.000
[Music]

01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.920
[Applause]

01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:16.119
[Music]

01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:28.239
just walking straight

01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:38.039
[Music]

01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:42.920
there to item 8.4 Community grants

01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.479
program  the officer ultimate motion

01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:49.199
which  splits this out into four parts

01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:53.439
 I think we nber got three counil of

01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.319
conference we're going to to split out

01:23:56.399 --> 01:24:00.279
armadel Baptist Church reconciliation

01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.279
and to HS Club so we might do the rest

01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:05.560
of them up front which we allow all

01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:07.199
counselors to be in the room and then we

01:24:07.279 --> 01:24:10.119
will do the other parts and I'll ask

01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:13.800
that Council the confence

01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:17.359
time yeah so obviously in item in part

01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:19.079
one there'll be no discussion about

01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.960
those other three items in that part was

01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.039
that clear yeah all right move up for

01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:27.359
part

01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:30.560
one councel Scott and second by

01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.199
councel counil Scott thank you mayor so

01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:35.359
the purpose of this report is for the

01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:39.840
2024 to 2025 Community grants program 

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.880
and it is to seek Council endorsement of

01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.600
the applications recommended for funding

01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:47.800
through the Stonington Community grants

01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.960
program  for that Financial year so

01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:53.439
it's to accept there are three late

01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:54.960
applications

01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.319
 to approve all the

01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:00.800
recommendations  as outlined in the

01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:02.319
attachments

01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.880
 which includes partnership grants 

01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.359
and 12 month gr grants it also 

01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:09.840
approves asks us to approve the

01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.079
allocation of the ethnic meals program

01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:15.399
 and there's a few other points there

01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:17.159
as well I just really wanted to talk to

01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:18.520
the purpose of these grants and the

01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:22.079
timing  of it  in terms of what's

01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:25.960
happening in the broader community

01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.079
 so the purpose of of community Grant

01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.680
really is to improve  community's

01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:34.039
Health wellbeing and safety  one of

01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:36.159
the ways that we do that is by enhancing

01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.239
social connections which a lot of these

01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.560
grants speak to it promotes

01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:42.359
accessibility and inclusiveness and

01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:44.279
that's inclusiveness across the entire

01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:46.199
Community we're not singling out any

01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:48.119
particular Community what we're doing is

01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:49.720
we're looking at the broader community

01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:52.479
and going inclusiveness is important for

01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:53.800
this group of people and for this group

01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:56.199
of people but overall how can we

01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:58.000
promotee accessibility inclusiveness for

01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.840
everybody it also advances social

01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.239
cohesion and Reconciliation which I

01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:06.319
can't talk to reconciliation  it

01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.800
actively promotes  environmental

01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:12.000
sustainability as well so we know that

01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:13.760
in our community at the moment there's a

01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:15.800
lot of vulnerable people struggling when

01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.439
it comes to the cost of living the price

01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:22.319
of things  loneliness is in a secret

01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:24.880
pandemic I guess you could say and also

01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.199
the that sense of isolation that a lot

01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:28.680
of people have for a host of different

01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.399
reasons these Community grants when you

01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.000
read into what they're trying to achieve

01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:36.279
attack all of those

01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.439
key  issues that our community are

01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:42.840
facing through meals programs we're

01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.920
reducing the cost of food or we're

01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:49.079
enabling people to put to to have meals

01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:52.840
 through other  grants here we're

01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:55.399
enabling people to come to together to

01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.840
to participate in activities  and

01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:00.920
there's also some  grants in there

01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:04.039
around how we can impact our environment

01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.479
but again is by bringing people together

01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:09.239
so many of the outcomes in in this 

01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:12.680
Grant process are qu unquantifiable 

01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:14.800
from a financial perspective but it's

01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.520
about the social capital that's

01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:18.439
important here and acknowledging that

01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:20.199
yes there are Financial outcomes and we

01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:22.119
will measure them as best we can but

01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:24.399
it's the impact on our community and our

01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:26.840
society that sometimes it's hard to to

01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:28.760
judge unless we have examples or case

01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:31.520
studies provided to us that really cut

01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:33.239
to the core of what these Community

01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:35.840
grants are about so they go a long way

01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:37.640
to assisting our community break down

01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:40.319
barriers they encourage participation

01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.119
and they help us to build a

01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:44.399
[Applause]

01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:47.119
thriving thank M

01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:49.720
 the details all sitting in the report

01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:54.359
93 applications  what's the nber 

01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.079
76 recommended the need is out there

01:27:57.159 --> 01:27:59.199
absolutely  the applications

01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:01.199
recommended they cover Sports and wreck

01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:03.520
venues  and stand alone type

01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.720
activities arts and culture culturally

01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:08.119
linguistically diverse access inclusion

01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.199
Youth and middle years Early Childhood

01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:12.840
environment older people Emergency

01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:15.359
Management First Nations to name a few

01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.600
so they really do cover a very broad

01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.920
range of community needs unfortunately

01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:22.800
the need is greater than what we can

01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:24.399
support and so they have to go through a

01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.079
very very rigorous process which has

01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:27.760
happened here I want to thank Council

01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.079
officers I asked quite a nber of

01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:30.760
questions they've all been answered and

01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:32.399
and sometimes we have to get into the

01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:33.760
detail to try and understand the

01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:37.079
justification and the logic behind these

01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:38.279
difficult decisions and they are

01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:39.520
difficult decisions when you're actually

01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:41.920
not providing the money to feed people

01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:43.439
that are struggling to put food on their

01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:45.079
table or you're not providing the money

01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:48.159
for other very very needy  Community

01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.399
organizations so I know those decisions

01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:52.920
there was a there was a lot of analysis

01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:54.720
that went behind them so so thank you to

01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:56.159
the officers for doing that and thank

01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:58.560
you for answering my detailed questions

01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:00.600
unfortunately the funding has been

01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.840
reduced from last year  by 120,000 to

01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:05.840
what we provided last year for the cash

01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:07.520
but the need has not been reduced so

01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:09.119
that does require making some really

01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:10.880
really difficult decisions and I

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:13.800
wholeheartedly support  the 

01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.439
recommendation as it stands thank you

01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:18.880
Council Council  thanks may just a

01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:20.359
couple of things that the grant

01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:22.680
recipients will be on the website so

01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.079
people can see where These funds are

01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:28.199
going  and a couple of you have

01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.119
mentioned this that the amount requested

01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:33.119
was over a million but the amount

01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:35.359
recommended is half a million dollar so

01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:36.880
this has been very carefully looked

01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:39.640
through to determine that we are

01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.399
investing public funds in a way that's

01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:46.960
beneficial to the community thank

01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:52.920
you it's with all the context of pure

01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.479
funds Etc that but it's always so

01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:58.000
inspiring to read through the different

01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:02.119
grants that get or get proposed for 

01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.039
and it's a clear indication of a

01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:05.560
community that's both connected and

01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:08.000
proactive and this year there were such

01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:11.800
an amazing range of of  reoccurring

01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:14.680
but also new projects coming forward so

01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:16.399
some of the ones that stood out for me

01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:18.560
was the Stonington tread king of

01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.079
concrete project which promises to

01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:23.039
energize our youth with skateboarding

01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.399
workshops and a competition judged by

01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:28.600
Olympian Bron Miller helping Hoops

01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.039
program parad will utilize Sports and

01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:32.720
part valuable LIF skills to young people

01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:34.960
so two things that are bringing to life

01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.319
 the new skate and  basketball

01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:39.680
courts in PR which is really exciting 

01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:42.119
while the pill community garden will

01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:44.239
cultivate fresh produce and Community

01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.199
connections and I also really love

01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.520
reading about the  perinatal M 

01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:51.520
mental health and well-being program

01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.560
which will provide crucial support for

01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:56.479
for new fathers so there's just so many

01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.560
amazing things when you can have the

01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.680
details to look through the 70 plus

01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:02.119
different initiatives that that are

01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:05.319
being supported by Stonington  and

01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:07.840
it's just a like a glimpse into the

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:09.960
really impactful work that is being that

01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:11.399
is happening all the time within the

01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:13.840
Stonington community so thank you for

01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:15.520
everyone that's applied everyone that's

01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:17.880
got the grants  those that haven't

01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.640
help you keep going  but there's just

01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.279
there's so much amazing things happening

01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:23.880
within our community and it's and it's

01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:25.239
moments like the that we really get a

01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:28.279
great one SL

01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:37.600
them in

01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:41.439
favor than counil we now move on to part

01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.399
two so Council Griff you have a conflict

01:31:44.479 --> 01:31:45.840
would you like to

01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:48.119
disclose yes thank you I have a general

01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:50.000
conflict of interest with the applicant

01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:51.800
named in the turac Bowling Club I've had

01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:53.960
a working relationship with him and made

01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:57.760
so again in the future okay thank

01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:09.680
you part two obviously Community grant

01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:10.720
for

01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:15.479
the for this part councel Morgan by

01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.119
councel H would you like to speak to

01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:21.640
this look I think that  just to note

01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:24.680
that this is also  a prop L assessed

01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.159
important Grant  and very worthy of it

01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:28.920
I won't repeat everything that council's

01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.479
thought sort of outlined in general 

01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:34.039
because that I think apply to everything

01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:38.479
here  but to note that  this is a

01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.720
very worthy Grant  and  the TAC

01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:46.520
Bowling Club  is very much a a very 

01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:48.279
good organization that supports

01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:51.079
community and  really engages a lot of

01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:53.439
people in the community is very valued

01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:56.600
[Applause]

01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:00.079
canther canel okay let's put it to vote

01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:03.079
all those in favor car thank you

01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:05.319
counselors we ask

01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.800
counselor to come back into the

01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:13.000
room and we'll move on

01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:17.560
to welcome back

01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:22.319
coun okay we move to  part three which

01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:26.479
is  the community gr

01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:28.840
[Applause]

01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:32.600
forc to thank you may  the conflict is

01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:35.520
that I'm it's material but I am a member

01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:38.800
of reconciliation St

01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:45.359
[Applause]

01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:53.079
than okay Ming for this part of the 

01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:54.279
recommendation

01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:58.399
counc B second by counc h counc

01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.640
b I don't think there's anything extra

01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.439
to add

01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:07.159
no vote all those in

01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:13.079
favor thank you counil ask

01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:18.680
[Applause]

01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:24.359
scotc back

01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:29.520
okay last part of  item 8.4 is

01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:32.560
community grant for the AR Baptist

01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:34.520
Church Council Morgan would you want to

01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:37.439
disclose the nature of your conflict yes

01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:39.199
 yes I have a general conflict of

01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:41.399
interest because  the husband of the

01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.479
applicant for  the grant is a very

01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.199
close friend of mine who also

01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:48.439
extensively volunteered and help me with

01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:50.439
my election campaign into next week

01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:53.640
thank you

01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:13.720
I have a move of this recomendation coun

01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:17.960
second coun would you like to speak

01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:23.399
to in favor

01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:26.600
thank you councilors just come back into

01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:28.880
the

01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.560
room

01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:47.399
seconds okay item 8.5 the contemp art

01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:49.600
collection acquisition have a couple

01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:53.720
recommendations move for one of those

01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:57.520
 like to move a alternative

01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:00.159
yes yeah thank you so  it's

01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:01.760
essentially approv an acquisition of

01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.359
artworks recomended excluding artwork

01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:07.319
thank you coun can I have a second

01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:12.920
recation coun Scot counc thank

01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:17.000
you  so this item regarding new

01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:19.119
acquisitions  for the Contemporary

01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.119
collection was deferred from our 24th of

01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:22.800
June meeting many councilors want to

01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:25.199
ensure that they ample time to review

01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.159
recommendations and applications  I'm

01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.119
a firm believer of stonington's legacy

01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:32.359
of championing the art of contemporary

01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:35.439
collection is Testament to this

01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:38.159
commitment  and the of the nine

01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:40.760
proposed Acquisitions curated by our art

01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:43.000
Acquisitions advisory committee showcase

01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:44.640
a diverse range of emerging and

01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:46.159
established art

01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:48.880
artists however while I recognize each

01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.720
piece's artistic Merit I believe that we

01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:53.520
must prioritize local impact for

01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:55.439
particularly given the current budgetary

01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:57.920
constraints therefore I Pro propose

01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.000
removing Outlet nber nine as detailed

01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:01.840
in our confidential attachments from the

01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:04.600
acquisition list I do

01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:07.479
  endorse the acquisition of the

01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:09.920
remaining eight pieces the decision does

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.359
not reflect on the artwork itself but

01:37:12.439 --> 01:37:14.479
rather a strategic allocation of

01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:16.960
resources while significant the piece in

01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:19.640
question is by an aloa New Zealand

01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:21.520
artist with no desable ties to

01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:23.680
Stonington and directing these funs

01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:25.640
towards supporting local artists or

01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:28.479
local initiatives generally would yield

01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:30.119
a more impactful outcome for our

01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.560
community at this time I want to

01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:34.520
emphasize my deep respect for the art

01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:36.319
panel and their expertise their

01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:38.319
recommendations driven by Passion and

01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.920
also Guided by our  and by their

01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.039
expertise and our art acquisition

01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:46.439
strategy  and invaluable and they

01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:47.800
haven't done any recommendations and

01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:50.159
against that  that acquisition

01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:52.520
strategy but I and I don't want to

01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.079
undermine their work and advice but 

01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:56.760
just to engage in a in a thoughtful

01:37:56.840 --> 01:37:58.439
discussion about what's appropriate in

01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.000
in this particular moment  investing

01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:02.479
in art as an investment in our

01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:04.560
Collective well-being and inspires

01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:06.199
challenges and strengthens our sense of

01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.199
community and the nine remaining

01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:10.760
Acquisitions will help to enrich our

01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:14.960
public spaces spaces for generations to

01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:18.159
come thank you mayor

01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:20.520
 look I'm generally supportive of

01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.640
investment in art and cultural endeavors

01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:25.479
Endeavors especially when there is a

01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:29.920
direct link to meeting local community

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:33.119
outcomes  we were advised that it is

01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:35.319
anticipated that this particular work

01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:38.079
that we're separating out here will

01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:40.279
appreciate significantly in the coming

01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:42.520
years but my question is for what

01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:45.039
purpose when we don't sell the up that

01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:47.600
we collect so I don't know that that

01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.560
justifies the reason to go out and

01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:52.439
purchase it I'm also not sure that the

01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:55.199
average punter sees Council as art

01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:57.239
collectors or that there is an

01:38:57.319 --> 01:38:59.840
expectation that rate payer funds are

01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:02.600
being spent on collecting art especially

01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:06.479
from artists that aren't local excuse me

01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:07.800
and when we're in a constrained

01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:10.319
Financial environment I'd much prefer as

01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:12.079
Council Healey said to see the funds

01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:14.680
redistributed to supporting our local

01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:16.520
arts and culture

01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:19.039
projects I think we can tell a story for

01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:21.239
supporting Australian and local artists

01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:23.920
during tough Economic Times but I'm less

01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:25.600
confident that we can justify an

01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.880
international

01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:31.439
artist open up for discussion anyone

01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:34.039
else  look thank you mayor I'm not an

01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:36.760
art expert but  I greatly appreciate

01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.479
and enjoy the visual arts however I do

01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:41.199
not believe this is an appropriate time

01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:42.880
to be adding to our contemporary art

01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.199
collection at a time when we have a huge

01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:47.279
debt and interest bill of $3 million a

01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:49.680
year I think it may come as a surprise

01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:51.640
to our community that we already have a

01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.880
contemporary art collection of 930,000

01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:57.840
and a total art collection of 8 million

01:39:57.920 --> 01:39:59.720
I hear what councelor Scott has to say

01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:02.760
about supporting the Arts  but I do

01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:04.279
believe that we there may be more

01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:05.880
effective and cost effective ways of

01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:08.439
doing this  and I do believe that we

01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:10.119
need to reassess where our art

01:40:10.199 --> 01:40:11.840
collection is on display and ensure the

01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:13.960
maxim benefit of this investment so

01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:16.680
far for our rate payers and residents as

01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:18.239
I mentioned there may be a more

01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:19.920
effective and costeffective way of

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.680
supporting contemporary art for example

01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:25.479
by having a trienal contemporary art

01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:27.239
exhibition in our public buildings this

01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:29.000
is just a thought really not for

01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:31.720
inclusion here but my thinking about why

01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:33.800
we shouldn't go on just collecting art

01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:36.439
which is in counselor offices it's in

01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:38.760
some of our public spaces I just don't

01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.640
think it's a priority right now  it's

01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:43.600
not something maybe in 10 years time

01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:46.760
when the the  economy and our budget

01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:49.479
is in better shape we can continue doing

01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:50.439
this

01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:53.560
but we won't be around I asse to make

01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:56.319
that decision  I just don't think this

01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:59.000
is a priority for us and I can't support

01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.000
this recommendation thank

01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:05.800
you I I  have to say I I do have a lot

01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:07.199
of respect for what councelor Griffin

01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:09.199
has said because when I hear counselors

01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:10.800
start to cherry pick what should be on

01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:12.840
and off the list I begin to wonder

01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:15.600
whether we should just not engage in

01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:17.920
this all together and  and not by any

01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:20.319
art so I think we we either go with the

01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:22.760
experts who looked at the the whole

01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.119
acquisition as a as a single piece you

01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:27.600
know there's different items in there

01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:29.079
and they've looked at it as a whole and

01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:31.319
a strategic approach if we start cherry

01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:33.000
picking things we like and we don't like

01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:34.840
we think that shouldn't shouldn't be in

01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:36.199
I think the whole thing Falls over and

01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:37.800
I'd be inclined to say well let's not

01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:39.279
play politics with this let's just leave

01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.479
it alone and not spend any money at all

01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:45.359
 we have a panel of experts that make

01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:48.279
this this advice for us we either take

01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:49.760
it or we should leave it we've either

01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.279
got confidence in them or we don't have

01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:53.640
confidence in them personally I think if

01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:55.680
the public were to see all the items

01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:57.800
that were we've seen in the confidential

01:41:57.880 --> 01:41:59.479
and they would see item nber nine

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:00.800
they'd be going why on Earth would you

01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.399
take that out why on Earth would you

01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:04.000
take that out I would take this one this

01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:05.520
one this one this one this one and about

01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:07.520
seven or eight others out I think if you

01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:09.920
took the popular view that would stay in

01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:11.760
and pretty much all the others would go

01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:13.800
so I would be inclined to support

01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:15.359
counselor Griffin if she's going to put

01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:17.520
forward an alternative to  to step

01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:19.520
away from this completely and and not

01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:21.640
buy anything this year because I'm not

01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:23.319
going to play politics with with the

01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:26.720
recommendations of of our experts okay

01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.239
thank you

01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:31.800
coun thank you mayor I completely agree

01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.439
with councelor Co I'm shocked I don't

01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:35.800
understand this I don't understand

01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:38.560
what's happening why are we nitpicking

01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:40.520
and focusing on one piece of art which

01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:42.319
is arguably going to have the greatest

01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:44.560
value greatest level of appreciation

01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:47.319
over time we display everything as much

01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:48.960
as we possibly can anywhere we've got

01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:51.439
space in any of our community assets we

01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:53.680
display the art it's not about us making

01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:55.840
money we are supporting the Arts as an

01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:58.079
industry and it that the artist doesn't

01:42:58.159 --> 01:42:59.840
have to be from Stonington they don't

01:42:59.920 --> 01:43:01.800
have to have a direct link to Stonington

01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:03.560
we've purchased International pieces

01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:05.840
before what is the big deal with this

01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:07.720
I'm perplexed and I'm completely with

01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:09.359
councilor Coast if we're talking about

01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:11.319
doing the program or not that's a

01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:13.039
completely different argent but we

01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:15.199
have a panel last time I checked no one

01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:16.760
around this table has art critic on

01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:19.720
their CV including me  I know what I

01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:21.600
like but that's a personal View and I'm

01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:23.760
not going to bring that to the table

01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:25.520
so I feel like I'm missing something

01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:27.159
here I don't know if I'm supposed to be

01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:28.680
with the exception of councel Griffin I

01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:29.960
don't know if I'm supposed to be reading

01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:32.239
between the lines I really don't

01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:35.000
understand why we've gone to all this

01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:36.560
level we've had to defer this from the

01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:38.760
last meeting all over this one piece I

01:43:38.840 --> 01:43:40.600
think when people do eventually see it

01:43:40.680 --> 01:43:42.159
if we end up making these purchases

01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:44.279
they're just going to think what you

01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.399
know what what was the big deal I really

01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:48.439
I don't get it I still haven't heard any

01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:51.319
any logical reason for creating such a

01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:53.960
kafuffle but for now the absence of any

01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:56.720
other motion before me I'm supporting 

01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:58.399
I will be supporting the officers on

01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:00.079
this we have a panel they are wonderful

01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:02.039
they work really hard and I trust their

01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:03.880
judgment and they've done us no wrong so

01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.039
far thank you

01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:07.680
Council

01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:11.680
Council yes  for me I'm also very

01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:15.319
concerned by  this proposal because I

01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:17.520
think that it's not consistent with Arts

01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:18.800
acquisition

01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.920
policy  I think that if we think that

01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:23.479
we should only

01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:25.039
 get local artists or Australian

01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:27.079
artists we need to change our policy and

01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:29.279
include that as a criteria we have a

01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.880
whole list of criteria in this policy

01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:34.520
this policy was approved  I've just

01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.359
pulled it up on 30th of May

01:44:37.439 --> 01:44:40.079
2022 during this term of council so I

01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:43.000
think that I'd prefer to see a change

01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:45.079
proposed to the policy overall rather

01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:47.560
than looking at particular Acquisitions

01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:49.279
and saying no let's just drop this one

01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:53.039
because we've decided we do want to

01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:55.560
prioritize local artists that's a valid

01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:57.840
view but I think we should actually

01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:00.479
change the policy then and actually put

01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:03.359
criteria in and say because there's a

01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:07.279
lot of criteria in the policy and  you

01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:08.560
know what it says here is the

01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:09.960
acquisition criteria which is in the

01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:11.680
office's recommendation is that there's

01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:15.520
a set that they every piece needs to 

01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:18.920
 have applying to it but our expert

01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:22.359
panel looks at and ranks and categorizes

01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:24.560
and it also so under the current policy

01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:26.279
Council requires that new acquisitions

01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.039
meet one or more of a following criteria

01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:32.000
 so it's one or more so there is sort

01:45:32.079 --> 01:45:34.600
of work in there that you know artists

01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:36.960
must have a de demon demonstrated

01:45:37.039 --> 01:45:39.000
professional visual arts practice and in

01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:40.840
the case of emerging artists exhibit a

01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:42.079
strong potential and commitment to

01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.439
establishing a longterm career in visual

01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:47.239
art so if something that they their art

01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:48.840
panel actually recommends meets that

01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.359
criteria it's in you know that's in line

01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:53.399
that's all it really needs to do and I

01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:54.560
would say that every single piece

01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:56.119
clearly does that that's before us

01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:58.600
tonight so i' sort of suggest that maybe

01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:01.399
what should happen is if we want to

01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:03.600
prioritize like artists with a local

01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:07.640
connection to Stonington   you know

01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:10.079
and that is one of the criteria  that

01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.800
is  one of the one or more criteria it

01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:16.680
says we produced by an artist who lives

01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:18.920
or has lived or worked in Stonington

01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:20.359
studies or made a significant

01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:22.319
contribution to the cultural development

01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:24.239
of the municip ality perhaps my

01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:26.560
colleagues might want to bring a n to

01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:27.720
make that

01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:30.159
mandatory  as a criteria rather than

01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:31.840
an optional criteria because that's the

01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:33.640
reason that's given for dropping a piece

01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:37.680
here  and  that it doesn't meet this

01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.000
criteria but it doesn't have to so I

01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:42.119
can't support this notice of motion

01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.000
because I don't think this is the right

01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:45.920
way to go about this I think there's a

01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:47.960
lot to consider about whether we should

01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:49.880
be revising this policy to make it more

01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:53.119
local if that's what we want to do but

01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:55.199
as it stands I'm supportive of the

01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:56.319
officer

01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:58.159
recommendation thank you Council morg

01:46:58.239 --> 01:46:59.960
any other speakers to the

01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.319
side thank you may  this

01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:03.840
recommendation had my name on it for the

01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:05.039
last meeting doesn't have my name on it

01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:06.239
for this meeting because I wanted to

01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:08.520
have some additional time to to rethink

01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:10.680
and and after it came back to briefing

01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:12.720
 having gone to the advisory committee

01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:17.000
and to be honest I am still sitting 

01:47:17.079 --> 01:47:20.000
in a moving position right now I don't I

01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:21.840
don't see this as I mean I'm not

01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:23.800
perplexed by it me quite simple it's

01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:25.920
really just we we just had a community

01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.159
grants program where we've had to make

01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:29.359
difficult decisions and we've reduced

01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.600
the funding to really really important

01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:33.439
Community 

01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:37.159
providers  obviously the question or

01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:39.800
the the  the decision that was

01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:41.359
provided to the advisory committee was

01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:42.880
if you had this much money how how would

01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:43.920
you spend it and this is the

01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:46.319
recommendations they came up with 

01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:47.479
this is for me is really about

01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:51.039
financials  I I just at the moment

01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:54.479
during this time I just can't see

01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:56.760
spending a signif investing in a

01:47:56.840 --> 01:47:59.199
significant piece I also look at the

01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:01.520
policy and to me I read the policy and

01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:03.079
you could Loosely see that somebody

01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:04.960
outside the municipality can fit in

01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:07.640
there but objective seven is to acquire

01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:08.760
works that demonstrate a strong

01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:10.560
connection to the city of Stonington and

01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:11.640
reflect the uniqueness of the

01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:13.600
municipality with its diverse identity

01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:15.520
perspectiv and communities so it is in

01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.520
there as a key objective for me I know

01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:19.079
we've purchased International pieces

01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:20.600
before but I understand that the last

01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:23.600
one was about 9 years ago so  it's not

01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:27.399
that something that we do very often 

01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:31.039
yeah I so I think on this one I'm going

01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:34.439
to support I be happy to support a a

01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:37.039
deferral not deferral holding off on

01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:38.520
this as well in the way I say it is

01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:40.479
we're not an art M we're not an art

01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:42.199
muse we're not in the business of art

01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:44.640
investment  we don't sell pieces so if

01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:47.159
we're going to  try and build some

01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:48.800
build a collection of of good stuff to

01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:51.239
fill our walls the first eight

01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:53.279
recommendations do just that

01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:56.399
thank you any other speakers can I move

01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:59.479
an amendment  May I'd like to move an

01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:02.640
amendment that says  that Council does

01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:05.199
not

01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:10.359
approve want to ask what the amendment

01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:14.239
is an amendment that would be  to not

01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:16.079
approve the acquisition of any

01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:19.800
artwork so I'd like to change the

01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.119
wording that's too contrary to the

01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:25.359
motion on SC it's

01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:30.359
not then I'll foreshadow an Al turn it

01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:32.960
if this is unsuccessful that given

01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:34.680
financials have been a key point of

01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:37.000
order you've already spoken to this you

01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:39.239
can't foreshadow an alternative you're

01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:40.880
speaking twice understand what you're

01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:44.399
saying but so if I can speak can I just

01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:47.119
ask a question so if if this 

01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:48.720
recommendation doesn't get up is there

01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:53.439
someone willing to  move the opposite

01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:55.720
recommendation I don't think you can ask

01:49:55.800 --> 01:49:59.680
that may during a debate sorry for

01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:03.399
shadow I contemplate that thank you all

01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:06.039
right councelor s you want to say

01:50:06.119 --> 01:50:09.960
something well just

01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:13.319
yeah

01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:16.520
IE I might just sort of contribute to

01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:18.680
this conversation as well I'm not a

01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:22.720
creative type  for me at this time I

01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.000
just don't see why we're proceeding with

01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:28.359
any of this  you know if if I will

01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:31.279
support  this recommendation  but if

01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:32.800
this fails me go to an officer

01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:35.000
recommendation that i' likely not to

01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:38.159
support that either  so if I if I have

01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:41.239
my way I would not support any any of

01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:43.119
these Acquisitions I think that theer

01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:45.880
art  collection is probably big enough

01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:48.279
as it is most of what we have ends up in

01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.399
libraries and Grand town hall and stuff

01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:52.880
like that and I just don't know that our

01:50:52.960 --> 01:50:54.680
community sort of appreciates this

01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:56.439
artwork being on these walls to be

01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:58.640
perfectly and again I'm not a creative

01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:02.000
type that's just my view to buy pieces

01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:06.199
of art  with a view of you know adding

01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:09.319
in value for me is just St you know

01:51:09.399 --> 01:51:11.439
evaluation of anything it's just a

01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:14.000
snapshot of what it's wor at that time

01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:16.079
and I just it's difficult to quantify

01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:18.760
that years before you sell it  you

01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:21.920
know I just don't understand any of it

01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:25.880
so councelor H would you like to sign up

01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:29.720
oh sorry was it was Council

01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:32.760
sorry okay

01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:35.960
sorry  thank you  I supp just

01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:38.800
confirming a few things that  as

01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:40.399
councils have brought up that the art

01:51:40.479 --> 01:51:42.119
does not have to be local under the art

01:51:42.199 --> 01:51:45.720
policy but is true  that this item was

01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:47.840
deferred from the previous M meeting

01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.119
because the councils were  concerned

01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:51.600
that they had had enough time to

01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:54.479
consider or saw it as a surprising

01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:56.680
capule potentially  so hopefully

01:51:56.760 --> 01:51:58.640
they've had time to reflect on on on

01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:01.720
what was being proposed in the last 

01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:05.119
meeting as well  and we are able to

01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:07.800
make decisions as councilors that aren't

01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:10.359
strictly to policy policy is what the

01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:13.479
officers bring to us we're able to make

01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:15.439
and bring to every decision our

01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:17.119
knowledge in the context that we have at

01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:20.359
that time  so therefore this is this

01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.119
is what I feel comfortable with and I I

01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:25.119
feel is is is right for this moment in

01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:28.840
time and it doesn't preclude the ability

01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:31.000
to have international art potentially as

01:52:31.079 --> 01:52:34.239
an acquisition sometime in the future 

01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:35.479
I also respect there's a lot of

01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:38.920
diversity op of opinion on this  and

01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:40.960
and I and and I respect that that we do

01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:42.199
have different opinions and we're able

01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:45.239
to do so  respectfully thank you

01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:47.319
Council that's put it to the vote all

01:52:47.399 --> 01:52:48.920
those in

01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:52.680
favor all those against

01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:55.800
is lost okay thank you counil anyone to

01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:57.159
move another recomendation move the

01:52:57.239 --> 01:53:00.800
officer recommendation coun second no I

01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.560
was going to move second second by

01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:06.720
councel coun thank you mayor I won't

01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:08.720
rehash the whole debate I don't think

01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:11.399
anyone wants that  I take the point

01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:13.319
that's been made and I I also won't

01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:14.720
refer to the previous debate too much

01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:16.720
because I don't think I can  that you

01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:17.960
know there's some sentiment that should

01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:19.520
we be doing this should we not be doing

01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.760
this I would absolutely consider not

01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:24.279
doing this in the future but we've put

01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:26.159
the money on budget we've done that as a

01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:27.880
council we've previously made that

01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.680
decision we've put this panel together

01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:32.840
we've empowered this panel we amended

01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:35.439
the policy just two years ago I don't

01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:37.399
think now at the last hurdle we should

01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:40.760
abandon this project but I fully support

01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:43.119
 a future Council or a future budget

01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:45.279
decision doing something different but

01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:47.479
to do it now I think he's an act of bad

01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:49.640
faith it wouldn't make any sense to me I

01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:51.279
don't have anyone calling me or emailing

01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:52.640
me complaining asking why why we're

01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:55.239
buying art  I appreciate that people

01:53:55.319 --> 01:53:57.560
have different views  for me showing

01:53:57.640 --> 01:54:00.199
it in our in our public infrastructure

01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.079
is important it's part of culture it's

01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:05.279
actually part of supporting the Arts 

01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:08.319
when you're not part of that world  I

01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:09.960
can see why it's difficult to see that

01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:11.920
and to understand and articulate it but

01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.119
I know when I speak to our Arts officers

01:54:14.199 --> 01:54:16.119
and people in our art community the

01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:19.039
passion they have  it just exudes out

01:54:19.119 --> 01:54:21.159
of them and that's why I can't abandon

01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:23.479
this this year I just don't think it's

01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:26.000
an act of good faith if anyone wants to

01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:27.600
put an amendment on the table that you

01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:30.279
know forces this to come back before the

01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:32.159
next budget cycle or something like that

01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:34.880
to reconsider this specifically  I'd

01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:37.119
probably be supportive of such a an

01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:38.399
amendment being made to this

01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:40.359
recommendation but I think for now we've

01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:42.479
got plenty of good reason to move ahead

01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:44.800
with what's before us plenty of sound

01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:47.039
justification to purchase the proposed

01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:49.359
Works  and I think they will only do

01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:51.960
good for our collection not bad thank

01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:54.079
you

01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:55.920
 yes I'll just briefly speak because

01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:58.000
once again don't want to really repeat

01:54:58.079 --> 01:54:59.439
the point I made in the previous debate

01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.840
except that I think that  changes to

01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:05.720
our approach and our policy  and what

01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:07.640
we should be doing should be considered

01:55:07.720 --> 01:55:10.239
in a a you know not just as an adhoc

01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:13.399
response to a particular set of  art

01:55:13.479 --> 01:55:14.880
we need to make a decision on and I

01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:16.760
think that you know as I said i' welcome

01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:18.920
a notice of motion or as U Council

01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:20.760
pazara said to relook at it for the next

01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:23.279
budget but I do think that you know for

01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:24.760
me and I understand others feel

01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:26.039
differently and they might feel this is

01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.199
hard to be justified but I think that

01:55:28.279 --> 01:55:30.000
you know if it's about the money you

01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:31.840
know we could reduce the budget down and

01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:33.800
say get the committee to select

01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:37.000
whichever pieces they didn't think you

01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:38.359
know should be included so it's about

01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:40.760
saving some money  you know say

01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.000
someone said let's take $330,000 off a

01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:45.479
title then I think we should go back to

01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:46.840
them and get them to make that choice

01:55:46.920 --> 01:55:49.439
rather than us as a council group decide

01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:51.760
to pick one piece over another I know

01:55:51.840 --> 01:55:54.880
you're ready it's not  outside our

01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:56.720
powers to do that we've got decision

01:55:56.800 --> 01:55:58.640
before us but personally I think what's

01:55:58.720 --> 01:56:00.560
good governance process and consistent

01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:02.600
with our policy would be to do it that

01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:05.159
way to just reduce the budget allocation

01:56:05.239 --> 01:56:07.159
or as some council is here don't think

01:56:07.239 --> 01:56:08.840
we should be spending any money on this

01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:10.640
right now I understand their perspective

01:56:10.720 --> 01:56:13.000
you know there's there's obviously some

01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:14.720
very strong argents that can be made

01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:16.760
about that whole issue but I think that

01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:18.279
once again we had our whole budget

01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:21.119
process we've just passed it literally

01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:22.960
at our last meeting

01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.119
 so I don't think we should be undoing

01:56:26.199 --> 01:56:28.039
that process now and perhaps it should

01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:30.000
have either been done then or we should

01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:32.600
be reviewing our policy for all the

01:56:32.680 --> 01:56:34.960
budget for the next

01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:37.359
year thanks I just have a question

01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:40.119
through you my understanding is that

01:56:40.199 --> 01:56:44.319
this purchase these purchases sit within

01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:46.439
this financial years budget not the

01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:47.680
budget that we just approved for the

01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.159
next financial

01:56:49.239 --> 01:56:51.359
year yeah we are in the next financial

01:56:51.439 --> 01:56:54.239
year

01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:59.199
over yeah so they were deing last last

01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:02.000
Financial Year's budget which was I

01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:04.119
think the June last June meeting and

01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:06.960
obviously this is the

01:57:07.439 --> 01:57:11.199
next May yes the fund related to this

01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.439
are over  there was a budget approval

01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:17.159
of

01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:19.199
50,000 thank

01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:21.960
you thank you okay anyone else want to

01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:22.760
to

01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:24.359
 thanks may look as I oppose

01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:27.399
non-essential items in the budget as you

01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:30.119
may remember I consider this at this

01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.720
point of time a non-essential item so I

01:57:32.800 --> 01:57:35.279
don't support  the purchase of this

01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:37.720
art right now

01:57:37.800 --> 01:57:42.560
than thank you may  yeah look  this

01:57:42.640 --> 01:57:45.039
when this was discussed private to at

01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:47.920
the last meeting it was the reasons

01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:50.319
behind the the financial the financial

01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:51.840
reasoning was actually provided for that

01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:53.840
time went back to the advisory committee

01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:55.319
I'm not sure what question was asked it

01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:58.239
came back as a as a totality and well as

01:57:58.319 --> 01:58:01.039
a totality of of items being 

01:58:01.119 --> 01:58:03.640
purchased we're in a once

01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:06.760
once a very unique situation  this has

01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:08.600
actually been on a threeyear high atus

01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:11.119
because of Co  and the advisory

01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:12.800
committee wasn't sitting so we actually

01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:14.640
have a big bucket of SP money to spend

01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:16.520
which we don't usually have usually when

01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:18.199
I look at officer report it's $50 to

01:58:18.279 --> 01:58:21.199
$60,000 per AMOM we are well and truly

01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:23.359
above that because of the Hiatus the

01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:26.399
original intent behind the  alternate

01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:28.800
was that we don't need to be in those

01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:30.720
big nbers now given the financial

01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:32.359
constraints when we normally spend 50 to

01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:34.680
60 Grand we should continue to be

01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:36.520
spending 50 to 60 Grand that's my

01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:38.720
personal belief that said I would I

01:58:38.800 --> 01:58:40.960
would hate to see nothing purchased and

01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:43.560
the  advisory committee's time and

01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:46.319
effort  and the good faith that we

01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:48.119
gave for them and and the and the

01:58:48.199 --> 01:58:49.479
questions that we asked them not being

01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:51.079
put to use there has been a lot of work

01:58:51.159 --> 01:58:53.520
behind the scenes a lot of passion  it

01:58:53.600 --> 01:58:57.000
would be a shame to lose that so  as

01:58:57.079 --> 01:58:58.640
much as I would like to see one removed

01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:00.119
I will support

01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:03.880
this second

01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:07.199
recomendation I think  the policy

01:59:07.279 --> 01:59:09.119
itself is is fine I think we should be

01:59:09.199 --> 01:59:11.279
looking at at all artworks because it

01:59:11.359 --> 01:59:13.600
provides access to our local community

01:59:13.680 --> 01:59:17.119
to view important pieces of work and try

01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:20.119
and buy blue poles today but  buy it

01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:22.239
30 years or 40 years ago and and was an

01:59:22.319 --> 01:59:24.279
absolute steal back then and you know

01:59:24.359 --> 01:59:25.920
what this policy is about is getting

01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:28.560
expert advice not ourselves but others

01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:30.600
giving us that expert advice and helping

01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:33.000
us get good pieces of art that our local

01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:34.640
community can actually get a benefit

01:59:34.720 --> 01:59:37.880
from from intergenerational benefit from

01:59:37.960 --> 01:59:39.760
so I think the policy is fine I think

01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:42.680
the approach is fine  but I am

01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:44.640
concerned that some councils have raised

01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:47.039
the issue of money and it being a tight

01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:48.800
time and therefore I'll probably be

01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:51.199
voting against at this time  given

01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:52.680
that you know I just don't like the way

01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:55.239
this this issue's been treated and 

01:59:55.319 --> 01:59:56.680
and I I just don't feel comfortable

01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:59.039
supporting this given given the context

01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:02.560
of of how this issue is and  so I I

02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:03.960
won't be supporting it I'll be be

02:00:04.039 --> 02:00:05.720
joining councilor Griffin and saying

02:00:05.800 --> 02:00:08.079
reallocate the money somewhere else you

02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:09.600
don't have to spend the money on Art you

02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:12.000
can reallocate it to graffiti removal

02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:13.680
you can reallocate it to foot path

02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:15.640
upgrades you can reallocate it to Road

02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:18.239
upgrades or drain upgrades or all sorts

02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:20.319
of other things in the community it can

02:00:20.399 --> 02:00:22.800
be reallocated elsewhere  and taken

02:00:22.880 --> 02:00:25.239
out of that budget item  if council is

02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.680
so view that there are other priorities

02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:30.159
of a financial nature that that that

02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:34.159
aren't to do with the art acquisition

02:00:35.560 --> 02:00:39.680
than thank you mayor

02:00:40.119 --> 02:00:43.279
 I wonder  to your point Council of

02:00:43.359 --> 02:00:45.319
Coast how we measured the benefit to the

02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:47.880
community I know that's probably BR a

02:00:47.960 --> 02:00:51.079
question that at 9:02 p.m. is a bit too

02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:53.479
deep for us to contemplate but I'm

02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:56.319
wondering if I could propose an

02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:58.479
amendment to this

02:00:58.560 --> 02:01:01.359
motion which is to investigate ways that

02:01:01.439 --> 02:01:05.600
maximize the return on investment of our

02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:07.920
artworks through promoting Stonington

02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:10.560
Arts collection to the broader Community

02:01:10.640 --> 02:01:12.640
I support the inclusion of that

02:01:12.720 --> 02:01:17.359
Amendment I'm fine with that to okay

02:01:17.640 --> 02:01:20.880
so to investigate ways that maximize the

02:01:20.960 --> 02:01:23.319
return on investment through promoting

02:01:23.399 --> 02:01:25.960
stonington's art collection to the

02:01:26.039 --> 02:01:28.479
broader

02:01:31.920 --> 02:01:34.479
community and the reason I'm proposing

02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:39.760
it is I'm really I go to study at grel

02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:42.600
quite a bit probably three times a week

02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:45.039
and we

02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:48.239
have I'm just going to ask for we've

02:01:48.319 --> 02:01:53.760
accepted it so can you can we the

02:01:53.840 --> 02:01:55.760
investigate ways that maximize the

02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:58.159
return on

02:01:58.239 --> 02:02:01.079
investment of our art

02:02:01.159 --> 02:02:02.960
collection through promoting

02:02:03.039 --> 02:02:04.640
stonington's art collection to the

02:02:04.720 --> 02:02:07.600
broader Community

02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:10.720
that's thanks

02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:15.159
D  and we do put our in public spaces

02:02:15.239 --> 02:02:17.399
and in in Council offices and it's great

02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:19.760
to see but I just don't know that we do

02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:21.920
enough to promote it I don't know that

02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:24.399
Community understands the value we place

02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:28.800
on it and I think this  Amendment

02:02:28.880 --> 02:02:30.920
might actually draw our attention to

02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:34.079
well how do we promote the significance

02:02:34.159 --> 02:02:35.479
of our art collection to our boarding

02:02:35.560 --> 02:02:37.279
comp so they can actually see the value

02:02:37.359 --> 02:02:39.640
and what we're trying to do because we

02:02:39.720 --> 02:02:41.039
all know that we don't sell the art so

02:02:41.119 --> 02:02:44.039
there's no value in selling it off we

02:02:44.119 --> 02:02:48.079
just hold on to it  and I think if we

02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:49.640
support this then I'm probably more

02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:51.920
inclined to support support the officer

02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:54.239
recommendation mindful that funding

02:02:54.319 --> 02:02:55.960
could be spent elsewhere and we know

02:02:56.039 --> 02:02:57.239
that there are people out there who are

02:02:57.319 --> 02:02:59.520
really struggling but again I think

02:02:59.600 --> 02:03:02.039
that's just too long AB to to draw at

02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:04.640
this point in

02:03:07.319 --> 02:03:10.439
time we've accepted it haven't we Sor

02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:12.640
just got to

02:03:12.720 --> 02:03:16.640
confirm maximiz return

02:03:18.600 --> 02:03:20.680
investment any

02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:25.760
other how healing it's really annoying

02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:29.479
 and hard I mean annoying is in hard

02:03:29.560 --> 02:03:31.279
not people being

02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:34.920
annoying  take

02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:38.199
pleasure cuz it's like do I feel more

02:03:38.279 --> 02:03:40.720
strongly about not acquiring the

02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:42.239
significant piece that I was trying to

02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:44.159
remove from an international

02:03:44.239 --> 02:03:47.279
artist and wanting to have that those

02:03:47.359 --> 02:03:50.119
funds focused on local initiatives then

02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:53.479
I do about a acquiring the remaining

02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:55.039
eight pieces of

02:03:55.119 --> 02:03:57.920
artwork  which do have some connection

02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:01.000
to Stonnington or  to

02:04:01.079 --> 02:04:03.279
Australia

02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:06.439
 I I don't like the thinking of we've

02:04:06.520 --> 02:04:08.479
got a bucket of funds to spend so let's

02:04:08.560 --> 02:04:13.000
like spend it that kind of vibe  so

02:04:13.079 --> 02:04:18.000
I I'm concerned about that idea  I'm

02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:21.640
I'm very conflicted I like the last 

02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:24.199
addition that  Council Scott has added

02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:26.439
as far as

02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:29.520
maximizing the sort of social return on

02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:31.560
investment of the art

02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:34.720
collection

02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:37.039
 I'm trying to rationalize how I'm

02:04:37.119 --> 02:04:39.199
going to vote and I'm still struggling I

02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:41.279
suppose I think I'm probably going to

02:04:41.359 --> 02:04:45.239
vote in favor of this thank

02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:50.720
you C fur very quickly to acknowledge

02:04:50.800 --> 02:04:52.720
the amendment we've had probably

02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:54.199
honestly not for a while because this

02:04:54.279 --> 02:04:55.640
has been on highest but I know

02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:57.159
previously and I think Council Griffin

02:04:57.239 --> 02:04:59.199
recalls as well we have talked about

02:04:59.279 --> 02:05:01.439
exhibiting the work more it is a

02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:05.560
challenge one of the longer term I guess

02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:09.159
 goals with  the pran town hall is

02:05:09.239 --> 02:05:11.359
to have more of an artistic space there

02:05:11.439 --> 02:05:13.319
not just for Council to show its pieces

02:05:13.399 --> 02:05:15.399
but for Community to be more involved

02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.760
that's a while away maybe a very very

02:05:17.840 --> 02:05:19.920
very while away in the meantime can we

02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:22.199
get more creative about where exhibit

02:05:22.279 --> 02:05:25.159
our work yes I know our art officer Jade

02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:27.560
would love to to hear this and would

02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:29.880
take any opportunity to to put more up

02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:31.800
or to educate our community about our

02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:33.960
collection and those sorts of things so

02:05:34.039 --> 02:05:35.439
if we can get that as part of the

02:05:35.520 --> 02:05:37.600
discussion that's great I still think

02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:39.960
the the next Council  should

02:05:40.039 --> 02:05:41.479
reconsider this because this just

02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:43.279
becomes a massive issue every single

02:05:43.359 --> 02:05:45.279
year and I don't like it it is

02:05:45.359 --> 02:05:47.800
politicized we shouldn't be politicizing

02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:50.079
this we do the project or we don't do

02:05:50.159 --> 02:05:53.000
the project  getting all the work to

02:05:53.079 --> 02:05:55.880
happen and then pulling it at the end

02:05:55.960 --> 02:05:57.159
when we've got other people in our

02:05:57.239 --> 02:05:58.920
community involved on the panel just

02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:01.079
doesn't Sit Right for Me Maybe we want

02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:03.000
to only buy art every second year maybe

02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:04.720
we want to half the budget maybe we want

02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:07.279
to not do it ever again whatever it may

02:06:07.359 --> 02:06:10.399
be but let's not do policy on the Run

02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:12.279
let's see this through because they are

02:06:12.359 --> 02:06:15.199
sound pieces and you know a broader

02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:17.239
strategic discussion or budgetary

02:06:17.319 --> 02:06:19.199
discussion can definitely take place I

02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:22.119
think at another time that's let's put

02:06:22.199 --> 02:06:24.079
it to the vote all those in

02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:27.960
favor all those against sorry in favor

02:06:28.039 --> 02:06:31.119
my in favor do that again all those in

02:06:31.199 --> 02:06:34.039
favor all those against motion is

02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:36.159
carried thank

02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:40.640
you sure we all get a photo with

02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:43.920
that

02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:48.239
mystery started 8.6 libraries plan I

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move recation

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coun counc thank you B we're tired it's

02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:01.960
9:08 but this is a really important

02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:03.600
agenda item so it deserves to have the

02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:05.399
time  and the and the effort I just

02:07:05.479 --> 02:07:07.239
need to have a breather for a second 

02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:09.439
I really happy to endorse this for

02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:11.600
exhibition  it's great to see this as

02:07:11.680 --> 02:07:13.560
a standalone plan in fact it's really

02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:15.239
exciting to see this as a standalone

02:07:15.319 --> 02:07:17.159
plan and I'm I'm surprised that it's

02:07:17.239 --> 02:07:20.119
taken us this long to do it so I I

02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:21.600
really really congratulate officers

02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:23.600
getting to this point libraries are such

02:07:23.680 --> 02:07:25.119
an important part of our community

02:07:25.199 --> 02:07:27.319
they're the heart and soul they they get

02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:29.960
used by so many different Generations so

02:07:30.039 --> 02:07:31.840
many different residents for so many

02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:34.199
different uses  provide so many

02:07:34.279 --> 02:07:37.000
activities and programming  we've seen

02:07:37.079 --> 02:07:38.479
an increase in the active borrowers in

02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:40.239
our community because our libraries have

02:07:40.319 --> 02:07:41.560
realized that there's an increased

02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:43.479
amount of digital resources instead of

02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:45.399
paper based resources we've responded to

02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:47.399
that demand we've changed and we've

02:07:47.479 --> 02:07:48.920
adapted to the needs of the

02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:52.680
community  so this is great  this is

02:07:52.760 --> 02:07:54.239
going to create a baseline of data and

02:07:54.319 --> 02:07:56.359
you know how I love data  and so that

02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:57.560
we're going to have targets that can

02:07:57.640 --> 02:07:59.119
inform future planning and future

02:07:59.199 --> 02:08:01.039
targets and also Guide Service Planning

02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:03.920
and Development I do have concerns that

02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:05.399
so much time and effort was put into

02:08:05.479 --> 02:08:07.439
this plan for 2 years only and it's

02:08:07.520 --> 02:08:09.119
unusual that you would get a plan for

02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:11.359
such a short period of time I did ask

02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:13.000
this question of officers and I was

02:08:13.079 --> 02:08:14.760
assured that they really really stood by

02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:16.399
this and they believe the 2 years was

02:08:16.479 --> 02:08:18.600
necessary so I will put my concerns to

02:08:18.680 --> 02:08:20.880
the side I will respect the opinion of

02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:22.239
officers

02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:24.159
 and I and I accept the fact that they

02:08:24.239 --> 02:08:25.600
would like to have these two years to

02:08:25.680 --> 02:08:28.079
really settle and learn from this plan

02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.159
in order to build an even stronger even

02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:33.399
better 4-year plan given this is the

02:08:33.479 --> 02:08:35.199
first time we've done this I I can see

02:08:35.279 --> 02:08:37.560
the logic that sits behind this  so

02:08:37.640 --> 02:08:39.439
anyway congratulations clear targets

02:08:39.520 --> 02:08:41.279
clear Ambitions a road map for a longer

02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:44.560
term plan to follow great

02:08:45.159 --> 02:08:48.000
stuff  I think Council goals covered

02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:50.279
so much about  this proposal in the

02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:51.880
detail so I won't repeat what you says

02:08:51.960 --> 02:08:53.520
but I do think that one of the things

02:08:53.600 --> 02:08:57.039
that is important about this is is why

02:08:57.119 --> 02:08:58.439
it's being proposed and one of the

02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:05.159
reasons is  to look at  basically 

02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:06.960
having having these sorts of

02:09:07.039 --> 02:09:09.279
improvements to make libraries more

02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:12.600
accessible and you know that could be

02:09:12.680 --> 02:09:14.439
accessible  you know in a sort of

02:09:14.520 --> 02:09:16.000
traditional sense of the meeting sort of

02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:17.520
you know for people with disability for

02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:19.359
instance or it could be for people who

02:09:19.439 --> 02:09:22.680
normally just aren't able ACC access the

02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:25.319
services when they need them it could be

02:09:25.399 --> 02:09:27.640
 looking at  you know is this

02:09:27.720 --> 02:09:29.920
meeting all the needs of our community

02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:31.279
way they're currently organized there's

02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:33.600
a whole scope so I think the idea of

02:09:33.680 --> 02:09:35.800
maybe having this being two years to

02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.359
really H in on it and and tral a few

02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:41.079
things look at what's going to work and

02:09:41.159 --> 02:09:43.399
then we might then have a longer term

02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:45.000
strategy that will be developed in

02:09:45.079 --> 02:09:47.199
future that we'll look at you know do we

02:09:47.279 --> 02:09:48.960
need libraries in other locations do we

02:09:49.039 --> 02:09:50.600
need to look at it across the whole

02:09:50.680 --> 02:09:53.119
Council area rather than looking at what

02:09:53.199 --> 02:09:55.239
we're immediately doing now but I do

02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:58.640
think that  this is  a really

02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:00.600
important service that's offered by

02:10:00.680 --> 02:10:03.760
Council  and we should be looking at

02:10:03.840 --> 02:10:05.560
how can we maximize the benefit to the

02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:07.880
whole community and and that means that

02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:10.640
we might need to change things  we

02:10:10.720 --> 02:10:13.840
might need to sort of  look at how

02:10:13.920 --> 02:10:16.479
different groups are what their needs

02:10:16.560 --> 02:10:17.760
are because you know some people

02:10:17.840 --> 02:10:19.119
probably would never go to a library at

02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:20.840
the moment you know they can get books

02:10:20.920 --> 02:10:23.000
on the internet you know like ebooks

02:10:23.079 --> 02:10:26.680
they can access things but there's

02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:28.399
there's more to libraries than that and

02:10:28.479 --> 02:10:30.279
they offer a place for people to go but

02:10:30.359 --> 02:10:33.279
they also offer programs and services

02:10:33.359 --> 02:10:36.079
that really can assist people  and

02:10:36.159 --> 02:10:39.079
almost  I hate to use this term

02:10:39.159 --> 02:10:40.079
because it's a little bit corporate

02:10:40.159 --> 02:10:41.279
speech but I'm tired I'm just going to

02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:45.039
say value ad and  and you know but it

02:10:45.119 --> 02:10:47.920
does you know value add to people to to

02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:50.760
be able to actually go to people  in a

02:10:50.840 --> 02:10:52.600
library to get the resources what they

02:10:52.680 --> 02:10:54.199
need and to actually

02:10:54.279 --> 02:10:57.359
discuss what it is they're trying to do

02:10:57.439 --> 02:10:59.199
 or what sort of information they need

02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:00.840
only for children for instance we can

02:11:00.920 --> 02:11:03.199
see that  parents you know work enough

02:11:03.279 --> 02:11:04.560
to actually go to a library service and

02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:06.079
know that there's really good materials

02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:08.439
that are age appropriate for their kids

02:11:08.520 --> 02:11:09.560
 that they can access there's all

02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:11.600
sorts of things that libraries do so I

02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:12.840
think that you know although this is

02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:14.880
only a 2-year period I think that let's

02:11:14.960 --> 02:11:17.520
not B up more than we can show and and

02:11:17.600 --> 02:11:19.720
actually look at it in a very focused

02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:22.119
way and how we can bring more benefits

02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:23.720
to the whole community and we might have

02:11:23.800 --> 02:11:26.560
a bigger  look at this again a future

02:11:26.640 --> 02:11:28.680
CH of council might decide you know that

02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:30.319
there's a lot more services we need to

02:11:30.399 --> 02:11:33.399
offer than we currently offer Council

02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:36.199
Council G thanks M this is core Council

02:11:36.279 --> 02:11:39.279
business I love it I love the plan

02:11:39.359 --> 02:11:41.199
because the plan had a Baseline and it

02:11:41.279 --> 02:11:43.439
has a target for members for visitors

02:11:43.520 --> 02:11:45.720
for nber of online loan nber of

02:11:45.800 --> 02:11:48.399
loans online visits Etc I really

02:11:48.479 --> 02:11:50.000
congratulate the councilors for

02:11:50.079 --> 02:11:52.399
presenting  Council officers

02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:54.119
presenting us as counselors with a

02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:56.760
really clear plan that a future group of

02:11:56.840 --> 02:11:59.119
counselors can look back and say you

02:11:59.199 --> 02:12:01.520
achieved it you didn't achieve it what

02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:03.520
are the reasons what can we do in the

02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:05.319
future so really well done to the

02:12:05.399 --> 02:12:08.000
council officers and Library libraries

02:12:08.079 --> 02:12:12.840
are core Council business thank you

02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:18.520
coun f no out it goes for

02:12:18.600 --> 02:12:23.439
consultation right let's to the vote in

02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.920
favor you carried

02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:28.960
unanimously let's move on to the next

02:12:29.039 --> 02:12:31.800
item which is 8.7 of options for

02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:34.960
extended Library operating hours move to

02:12:35.039 --> 02:12:37.520
this recommendation

02:12:37.600 --> 02:12:41.000
cing and second

02:12:41.079 --> 02:12:43.640
by Council s

02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:47.399
counc  thank you  really excited

02:12:47.479 --> 02:12:49.720
about this Open Access model  that's

02:12:49.800 --> 02:12:51.840
getting 

02:12:51.920 --> 02:12:54.279
 piloted at molven library Paving the

02:12:54.359 --> 02:12:56.359
way at a significant expansion of

02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:58.399
Library hours across the community so

02:12:58.479 --> 02:13:00.039
the recommendation comes from a place of

02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:02.359
deep commitment to providing safe

02:13:02.439 --> 02:13:05.279
accessible enriching spaces for every

02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:06.960
single residents volun and all began

02:13:07.039 --> 02:13:09.560
with a simple question from a resident

02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:11.479
that I received what if our public

02:13:11.560 --> 02:13:13.359
libraries were open every night what if

02:13:13.439 --> 02:13:16.119
we could engage the public and public

02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:18.079
life there instead of having to choose

02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:21.039
between drinking at the bar and domestic

02:13:21.119 --> 02:13:23.479
is olation in this SP to wave the

02:13:23.560 --> 02:13:26.359
support revealing a desire for vibrant

02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:28.439
accessible Community spaces beyond the

02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:31.239
traditional workday so imagine this

02:13:31.319 --> 02:13:33.079
we've got a year 12 student seeking

02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:35.279
Refuge from a chaotic household to focus

02:13:35.359 --> 02:13:37.960
on their studies or someone uning for a

02:13:38.039 --> 02:13:39.720
quiet welcoming space to connect with a

02:13:39.800 --> 02:13:41.399
book and escape the isolation with a

02:13:41.479 --> 02:13:43.239
small apartment on a Sunday morning when

02:13:43.319 --> 02:13:45.560
the library is currently closed and I

02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:47.439
was talking with a resident recently who

02:13:47.520 --> 02:13:49.479
was most excited about the opportunity

02:13:49.560 --> 02:13:51.760
for an early morning ex

02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:53.560
being the most helpful for her cuz our

02:13:53.640 --> 02:13:55.960
library is currently open at 10:00 a.m.

02:13:56.039 --> 02:13:57.600
and these are just three examples of the

02:13:57.680 --> 02:13:59.359
countless individuals who could benefit

02:13:59.439 --> 02:14:01.880
from extended Library hours cuz

02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:03.560
currently our libraries operate

02:14:03.640 --> 02:14:06.399
primarily during daytime working week

02:14:06.479 --> 02:14:09.199
from 10 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. sort of on

02:14:09.279 --> 02:14:11.800
average some open a bit later Etc but

02:14:11.880 --> 02:14:14.279
that's the core of it leaving many and

02:14:14.359 --> 02:14:15.720
that's just Monday to Friday for a

02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:17.439
little the time  leaving many

02:14:17.520 --> 02:14:19.279
residents unders surged especially on

02:14:19.359 --> 02:14:21.840
weekends and Sundays that model B which

02:14:21.920 --> 02:14:24.239
is being proposed the Open Access model

02:14:24.319 --> 02:14:26.880
offers a gamechanging solution and the

02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:28.359
best part of this model is not only

02:14:28.439 --> 02:14:30.439
beneficial for a community but it's also

02:14:30.520 --> 02:14:32.680
incredibly cost effective we're talking

02:14:32.760 --> 02:14:36.119
about an incredible 53 extra hours of

02:14:36.199 --> 02:14:40.479
access to M and Library a week which is

02:14:40.560 --> 02:14:44.000
2,756 hours a year and after the first

02:14:44.079 --> 02:14:46.359
year of setup cost which we're hoping to

02:14:46.439 --> 02:14:50.119
be able to get a 50%  grant for 

02:14:50.199 --> 02:14:53.800
that takes to an hourly cost of $12 an

02:14:53.880 --> 02:14:55.640
hour to make the library more accessible

02:14:55.720 --> 02:14:57.600
which is absolutely

02:14:57.680 --> 02:15:00.520
amazing  I know that our dedicated

02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:03.720
officers are ex incredibly excited about

02:15:03.800 --> 02:15:05.800
the potential of this initiative and I

02:15:05.880 --> 02:15:07.880
share their enthusiasm wholeheartedly

02:15:07.960 --> 02:15:09.800
isn't just about adding hours to a

02:15:09.880 --> 02:15:11.560
schedule it's about Transforming Our

02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:13.840
libraries into Vibrant Community hubs

02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:15.159
that are there for residents when they

02:15:15.239 --> 02:15:17.439
need the most and by embracing this

02:15:17.520 --> 02:15:19.159
model we're investing in increased

02:15:19.239 --> 02:15:20.880
accessibility providing safe and well

02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:22.479
welcoming space for everyone regardless

02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:24.600
of their schedule or circstance we've

02:15:24.680 --> 02:15:26.720
got enhanced learning opportunities

02:15:26.800 --> 02:15:28.520
offering students and LIF La Learners a

02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:30.920
bit of quiet and supportive space and

02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:33.079
environment to pursue their goals

02:15:33.159 --> 02:15:34.640
stronger Community connections with this

02:15:34.720 --> 02:15:37.239
welcoming space of residents to connect

02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:39.359
engage in combat social

02:15:39.439 --> 02:15:41.960
isolation  so I think it's just a

02:15:42.039 --> 02:15:45.199
win-win  all around  very cost

02:15:45.279 --> 02:15:48.560
effective  it's been already initiated

02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:52.279
in Sara and  Bayside Council so I know

02:15:52.359 --> 02:15:55.119
it's not something that is a high risk

02:15:55.199 --> 02:15:56.600
we've never tried this before this is

02:15:56.680 --> 02:15:58.239
like cutting edge bleeding edge kind of

02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:00.640
thing this has been successful and other

02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:03.640
municipalities very close to ours so I

02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:04.840
think we need to move forward and make

02:16:04.920 --> 02:16:07.119
Stonington again another leader and

02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:09.079
accessible and inclusive community

02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:11.920
spaces  and I look forward to the

02:16:12.000 --> 02:16:14.720
pilot going

02:16:16.720 --> 02:16:19.119
ahead I had a question sorry I had a

02:16:19.199 --> 02:16:20.920
question maybe I'm missing something but

02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:22.560
how long does this pilot is it planed

02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:25.000
for this pilot to go for what is the

02:16:25.079 --> 02:16:27.560
timeline on the pilot I through you may

02:16:27.640 --> 02:16:31.640
 to be a 12 month but essentially just

02:16:31.720 --> 02:16:33.239
to knowe it'll be referred to the next

02:16:33.319 --> 02:16:35.760
budget for consideration okay  and

02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:37.079
therefore we build

02:16:37.159 --> 02:16:40.520
that thank you thanks mayor thanks mayor

02:16:40.600 --> 02:16:42.280
so I'm supportive of this I think it's a

02:16:42.360 --> 02:16:44.120
great initiative and congratulate

02:16:44.200 --> 02:16:46.000
Council heing for bringing the notice of

02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:49.959
motion the council meeting half ago

02:16:50.040 --> 02:16:54.479
while back  I also  support this

02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:59.120
model being Tri at Mount mvin  noting

02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.959
that the  the overall risk profile is

02:17:03.040 --> 02:17:05.920
higher  because of the lack of Staff

02:17:06.000 --> 02:17:09.399
presence but I'm assing that and 

02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:10.520
understand that Council officers have

02:17:10.600 --> 02:17:13.399
done the due diligence around  a risk

02:17:13.479 --> 02:17:16.479
assessment and made sure that there are

02:17:16.559 --> 02:17:18.879
mitigation plans  and that they're

02:17:18.959 --> 02:17:22.600
within the scope of this trial so that

02:17:22.680 --> 02:17:25.040
 we can make sure that it's a

02:17:25.120 --> 02:17:28.879
success  I think that this model opens

02:17:28.959 --> 02:17:32.120
up the potential  for external groups

02:17:32.200 --> 02:17:35.040
to be asked to provide  evening social

02:17:35.120 --> 02:17:37.040
programs  potentially through our

02:17:37.120 --> 02:17:39.600
community grants process  or through

02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:42.639
other means I mean I know that  rotary

02:17:42.719 --> 02:17:48.000
pan meet  at nighttime in  Pan place

02:17:48.079 --> 02:17:50.040
 I know that they might be interested

02:17:50.120 --> 02:17:52.000
in explor exporing other locations to

02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:54.680
meet  other examples of community

02:17:54.760 --> 02:17:56.079
groups that might take up this

02:17:56.159 --> 02:17:59.000
opportunity to meet outside of ours are

02:17:59.079 --> 02:18:01.840
the chatty Cafe  social group that

02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:05.159
catches up  and other programs that

02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:06.799
are currently running throughout

02:18:06.879 --> 02:18:09.360
Stonington  might want to take up this

02:18:09.440 --> 02:18:13.200
opportunity to meet  in the Malin 

02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:16.239
Library  I do support the

02:18:16.319 --> 02:18:18.799
redistribution of funds for implementing

02:18:18.879 --> 02:18:22.479
this  and especially Keen to see that

02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:26.600
there are opportunities for  grants 

02:18:26.680 --> 02:18:32.680
to help lower the costs in the setup 

02:18:32.760 --> 02:18:36.399
yeah speak  yes mayor I support this

02:18:36.479 --> 02:18:39.200
because it is a pilot and has worked in

02:18:39.280 --> 02:18:41.639
other councils and I I count any reason

02:18:41.719 --> 02:18:43.600
for not giving this a try we have got

02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.799
potential funding of up to 50% but most

02:18:46.879 --> 02:18:48.559
importantly it's a pilot and I think we

02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:50.280
shouldn't be open to new ideas so I

02:18:50.360 --> 02:18:52.719
support

02:18:53.280 --> 02:18:55.040
recommendation thank you mayor just to

02:18:55.120 --> 02:18:57.079
acknowledge that when councel Healy

02:18:57.159 --> 02:18:58.559
brought this as a notice of motion I

02:18:58.639 --> 02:19:00.040
obained because there was no

02:19:00.120 --> 02:19:01.879
consultation with any counselors or at

02:19:01.959 --> 02:19:04.479
least certainly not with me so I still

02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:06.879
firmly do not support the path that this

02:19:06.959 --> 02:19:09.559
took to get to us tonight however the

02:19:09.639 --> 02:19:11.600
officers have done the work it's a very

02:19:11.680 --> 02:19:14.239
Sound Idea I now know what it is unlike

02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:15.840
when it was brought to us on the 20th of

02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:17.920
May  and so I wholeheartedly endorse

02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:19.360
it and I hope it's a huge success for

02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:21.239
our community thank you

02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:25.399
counc other speakers to the side Council

02:19:25.479 --> 02:19:27.239
thank you may also supportive  it has

02:19:27.319 --> 02:19:29.079
gone to its own path but we also hadn't

02:19:29.159 --> 02:19:30.879
seen the draft libraries plan on the

02:19:30.959 --> 02:19:32.559
20th of May we've now seen that tonight

02:19:32.639 --> 02:19:35.159
and this is actually  well aligned to

02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:36.799
that draft plan which we had been told

02:19:36.879 --> 02:19:38.159
so this is the right time to make the

02:19:38.239 --> 02:19:39.760
decision  it was the right time to

02:19:39.840 --> 02:19:42.239
bring these back together  it's not

02:19:42.319 --> 02:19:44.360
out a left field  this is really

02:19:44.440 --> 02:19:46.200
aligned with with what the draft plan

02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:47.680
that's going out for consultation by the

02:19:47.760 --> 02:19:48.920
time this comes to council for a

02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:50.280
decision the draft plan will have gone

02:19:50.360 --> 02:19:52.079
through consultation there'll be a new

02:19:52.159 --> 02:19:53.280
bunch of people sitting around this

02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:54.680
table and and they'll be able to make

02:19:54.760 --> 02:19:56.319
this

02:19:56.399 --> 02:19:58.840
decision any other

02:19:58.920 --> 02:20:02.600
speakers yes I think that this is a very

02:20:02.680 --> 02:20:04.399
important

02:20:04.479 --> 02:20:07.840
 trial that we have before us because

02:20:07.920 --> 02:20:10.920
I'm sorry I'm a little bit

02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:13.319
 just a little bit tired I think

02:20:13.399 --> 02:20:16.000
tonight  we how it's a long meeting

02:20:16.079 --> 02:20:17.239
but I think one of the things is I'm

02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:21.079
also thinking about how 

02:20:21.159 --> 02:20:22.920
you know how many people in our

02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:26.600
community could benefit from this and 

02:20:26.680 --> 02:20:29.200
you know having  reflected upon people

02:20:29.280 --> 02:20:31.600
I know who have often struggled to

02:20:31.680 --> 02:20:32.520
access

02:20:32.600 --> 02:20:37.319
Services   to have this actually 

02:20:37.399 --> 02:20:39.399
Tri I think is really good I hope it's

02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:43.239
successful we can look at having this 

02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:45.360
across the whole  Suite of libraries

02:20:45.440 --> 02:20:46.840
we have eventually but I do think it

02:20:46.920 --> 02:20:48.440
makes sense to start with M but most

02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:50.360
importantly this is just going to give

02:20:50.440 --> 02:20:54.040
people far more options to access these

02:20:54.120 --> 02:20:56.920
services and to actually make use of 

02:20:57.000 --> 02:20:59.360
what our counting facilities so I really

02:20:59.440 --> 02:21:01.479
welcome it I really hope that this trial

02:21:01.559 --> 02:21:04.799
proves  viable and shows that having

02:21:04.879 --> 02:21:06.799
the sorts of extended hours will bring a

02:21:06.879 --> 02:21:08.040
lot of benefits and I think you know

02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:09.719
these are assets that you know when

02:21:09.799 --> 02:21:11.079
they're sitting there closed no one can

02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:12.920
use them if we're talking about value

02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:15.120
for money and I've heard a lot of 

02:21:15.200 --> 02:21:18.120
people at times talk about maximizing

02:21:18.200 --> 02:21:20.799
the value of County's assets having

02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:22.719
extended hours if we can actually make

02:21:22.799 --> 02:21:24.680
it viable from a financial point of view

02:21:24.760 --> 02:21:26.680
which is really important so we start

02:21:26.760 --> 02:21:28.719
with a trial and we we do need to try

02:21:28.799 --> 02:21:31.520
and get funding definitely  to try and

02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:34.280
make this progress but maximizing the

02:21:34.360 --> 02:21:36.239
availability of that asset to the whole

02:21:36.319 --> 02:21:38.319
Community is really critical why have it

02:21:38.399 --> 02:21:40.920
sharp you know people could be using it

02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:42.600
if there's need for it demand for it

02:21:42.680 --> 02:21:44.600
let's do

02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:48.799
it thank Council okay

02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:51.760
speakers anything

02:21:51.840 --> 02:21:53.799
no okay let's put it to the vote those

02:21:53.879 --> 02:21:55.000
in

02:21:55.079 --> 02:21:57.239
favor thank you

02:21:57.319 --> 02:22:02.040
coun next 8 implementation partnership

02:22:02.120 --> 02:22:05.760
and G Services have a move for this

02:22:05.840 --> 02:22:08.559
recommendation Council bold second by

02:22:08.639 --> 02:22:10.879
Council Hill Council bold I'm going to

02:22:10.959 --> 02:22:12.120
go through this quickly not because it's

02:22:12.200 --> 02:22:14.239
not important but just because  it's

02:22:14.319 --> 02:22:15.639
actually quite clear and it's all set

02:22:15.719 --> 02:22:17.479
out in the office of report  this is

02:22:17.559 --> 02:22:19.280
to award the contract for an

02:22:19.360 --> 02:22:22.159
implementation partner to replace this

02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:24.360
the two final core operating systems

02:22:24.440 --> 02:22:26.520
that need replacing that's finance and

02:22:26.600 --> 02:22:29.280
proper and ring  the implementation is

02:22:29.360 --> 02:22:31.040
necessary as you can read in the report

02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:32.559
because brings they bring skills

02:22:32.639 --> 02:22:35.760
required to ensure successful design and

02:22:35.840 --> 02:22:38.680
I'm assing that was a m hit  and

02:22:38.760 --> 02:22:41.000
delivery

02:22:41.079 --> 02:22:44.360
of okay I know I've got five minutes so

02:22:44.440 --> 02:22:46.719
I that quick and I'm going to take about

02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:49.840
one  to ensure the successful design

02:22:49.920 --> 02:22:51.719
and delivery of this course system they

02:22:51.799 --> 02:22:53.239
really are specialist skills we don't

02:22:53.319 --> 02:22:54.719
have them inhouse so we need to have

02:22:54.799 --> 02:22:57.440
them to augment to our current team 

02:22:57.520 --> 02:22:59.760
we did a thorough rf2 process to a

02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:01.920
vendor panel we receive submissions we

02:23:02.000 --> 02:23:05.120
review the submissions  and here we

02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:06.760
come up with this recommendation for

02:23:06.840 --> 02:23:08.920
what is a very very significant capital

02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:10.559
investment for Council it's really

02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:12.600
important to get this right  we don't

02:23:12.680 --> 02:23:14.159
have the capability to do this without

02:23:14.239 --> 02:23:16.319
bringing an implementation partner so

02:23:16.399 --> 02:23:21.079
it's this is why this is critical

02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:27.159
fur no nothing further to okay vot all

02:23:27.239 --> 02:23:27.959
in

02:23:28.040 --> 02:23:29.719
favor

02:23:29.799 --> 02:23:34.239
than next item 8.9 contract provid

02:23:34.319 --> 02:23:37.879
drains and Associated the supp

02:23:37.959 --> 02:23:41.079
[Applause]

02:23:41.479 --> 02:23:45.159
Contra seconded

02:23:49.440 --> 02:23:52.520
by okay fine I'll give it to council

02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:53.440
okay

02:23:53.520 --> 02:23:57.120
Council  thank you so this is about

02:23:57.200 --> 02:23:58.959
awarding an annual Supply contract for

02:23:59.040 --> 02:24:01.000
roads drains and Associated Works to

02:24:01.079 --> 02:24:02.959
eight pre-qualified

02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:05.239
contractors  this is one of the most

02:24:05.319 --> 02:24:09.319
important contracts of a council  the

02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:10.799
contracts essential for the efficient

02:24:10.879 --> 02:24:12.799
and cost effective delivery of our

02:24:12.879 --> 02:24:14.399
Capital works and infrastructure Ral

02:24:14.479 --> 02:24:17.200
program 14 companies submitted tenders

02:24:17.280 --> 02:24:19.000
which were rigorously

02:24:19.079 --> 02:24:22.079
evaluated  against experience pricing

02:24:22.159 --> 02:24:24.799
compliance  the panel include a prty

02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:27.360
advisor selected the eight top scoring

02:24:27.440 --> 02:24:29.680
companies  ensuring a diverse group

02:24:29.760 --> 02:24:32.639
capable of handing handling various size

02:24:32.719 --> 02:24:34.559
 project sizes and

02:24:34.639 --> 02:24:36.840
complexities  the threeyear contract

02:24:36.920 --> 02:24:38.520
with two potential one-year extensions

02:24:38.600 --> 02:24:40.959
is estimated cost between 8 to $10

02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:43.719
million annually aligning with adopted

02:24:43.799 --> 02:24:45.239
Council

02:24:45.319 --> 02:24:47.600
[Applause]

02:24:47.680 --> 02:24:50.319
budget I think that just to reiterate

02:24:50.399 --> 02:24:52.200
point that this is one of the most

02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:54.440
important contracts we have at Council

02:24:54.520 --> 02:24:58.440
and you know to  you our road

02:24:58.520 --> 02:25:00.479
maintenance our dreams these are assets

02:25:00.559 --> 02:25:03.440
of council and they're also costs of

02:25:03.520 --> 02:25:05.120
counseling like we sort of talk about

02:25:05.200 --> 02:25:07.120
them as assets and I think is what3

02:25:07.200 --> 02:25:09.840
billion doll worth of assets Council has

02:25:09.920 --> 02:25:12.200
if you look at every road and drain and

02:25:12.280 --> 02:25:16.879
everything that we have  in St to but

02:25:16.959 --> 02:25:19.639
they're actually really important that

02:25:19.719 --> 02:25:23.239
we maintain mainin these  facilities

02:25:23.319 --> 02:25:24.440
 you know roads and drains are

02:25:24.520 --> 02:25:27.760
critical to our community  this is

02:25:27.840 --> 02:25:30.840
work that we we need to get the best

02:25:30.920 --> 02:25:33.360
people available to do but we also need

02:25:33.440 --> 02:25:36.479
it to be cost effective  it's not the

02:25:36.559 --> 02:25:40.159
sort of thing that  you know is

02:25:40.239 --> 02:25:41.559
something other really I mean

02:25:41.639 --> 02:25:42.959
governments are the ones who maintain

02:25:43.040 --> 02:25:44.840
these assets ultimately you know these

02:25:44.920 --> 02:25:47.159
are sorts of things where as as a

02:25:47.239 --> 02:25:48.600
government a level of government this is

02:25:48.680 --> 02:25:50.319
one of our most critical responsib AB

02:25:50.399 --> 02:25:53.559
ilities that we have so I think that 

02:25:53.639 --> 02:25:56.840
although  you know we sort of we do

02:25:56.920 --> 02:25:58.159
evaluate these things if there's a lot

02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:00.959
of detail behind it all here  I do

02:26:01.040 --> 02:26:03.680
want to highlight that  you know

02:26:03.760 --> 02:26:06.559
Council very actively monitors these

02:26:06.639 --> 02:26:09.520
contracts and how our contractors work

02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:11.159
and you know it's not just a sort of

02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:13.799
tick and flick exercise  officers are

02:26:13.879 --> 02:26:16.399
really diligent in how they evaluate who

02:26:16.479 --> 02:26:18.840
is going to best deliver on the contract

02:26:18.920 --> 02:26:21.239
 we have  option for extension

02:26:21.319 --> 02:26:22.680
because we don't want to be locked in if

02:26:22.760 --> 02:26:24.719
something does go wrong we can get out

02:26:24.799 --> 02:26:27.959
you know  and  for sorts of people

02:26:28.040 --> 02:26:30.920
who  T sorts of organizations

02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:33.360
companies that have tendered for this 

02:26:33.440 --> 02:26:34.559
you know they've been through a very

02:26:34.639 --> 02:26:38.239
thorough evaluation contract and  we

02:26:38.319 --> 02:26:40.280
really do have a lot of confidence that

02:26:40.360 --> 02:26:43.559
this is going to get us the best

02:26:44.520 --> 02:26:46.559
value thanks mayor this is really where

02:26:46.639 --> 02:26:49.079
the rubber hits the road literally and

02:26:49.159 --> 02:26:51.159
this is the area where

02:26:51.239 --> 02:26:54.639
I wasn't meing to a joke actually coun

02:26:54.719 --> 02:26:58.920
SC but thank you for appreciating it 

02:26:59.000 --> 02:27:00.719
this is really what our residents are

02:27:00.799 --> 02:27:02.879
most concerned about you know our basic

02:27:02.959 --> 02:27:05.200
infrastructure the maintenance of it the

02:27:05.280 --> 02:27:08.479
upkeep of it the Aesthetics of it and Mr

02:27:08.559 --> 02:27:11.239
Holloway it's your direct  this is in

02:27:11.319 --> 02:27:13.040
your direct care and we we trust that

02:27:13.120 --> 02:27:14.840
you've chosen excellent people to do

02:27:14.920 --> 02:27:16.520
this work because this is where we get

02:27:16.600 --> 02:27:18.520
the most grief probably from our

02:27:18.600 --> 02:27:21.399
residents as to you know what council is

02:27:21.479 --> 02:27:24.000
doing about all these things so this is

02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:27.440
critical thank you

02:27:27.520 --> 02:27:31.559
speakers ask a question of

02:27:31.639 --> 02:27:34.600
offic in general how are we seeing the

02:27:34.680 --> 02:27:36.959
cost of of road maintenance go compared

02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:39.799
to CPI is it  where rate capping is

02:27:39.879 --> 02:27:42.520
just below CP well below CPI or is it

02:27:42.600 --> 02:27:43.639
well ahead of

02:27:43.719 --> 02:27:46.520
CPI  through you may these are

02:27:46.600 --> 02:27:50.239
long-term service contracts  so EXC me

02:27:50.319 --> 02:27:53.920
over the  term of the last contract 

02:27:54.000 --> 02:27:57.000
cost increases have been tied to CPI as

02:27:57.079 --> 02:28:00.079
part of the contract Arrangement 

02:28:00.159 --> 02:28:02.959
we're we're seeing far more manageable

02:28:03.040 --> 02:28:05.440
containment of cost escalation in these

02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:08.280
types of service contracts by comparison

02:28:08.360 --> 02:28:11.319
to oneoff project construction cost

02:28:11.399 --> 02:28:14.600
which SE very significant grow but it's

02:28:14.680 --> 02:28:20.159
in the order of CP margin

02:28:20.239 --> 02:28:22.280
thank you any other

02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:25.319
speakers no

02:28:25.399 --> 02:28:28.079
councilor further to V to the vote all

02:28:28.159 --> 02:28:29.719
those in

02:28:29.799 --> 02:28:32.159
favor Carri unanimously thank you

02:28:32.239 --> 02:28:38.000
Council next item 8 10 appointment of a

02:28:38.079 --> 02:28:40.799
risk committee chair can move this

02:28:40.879 --> 02:28:43.399
recommendation councel Morgan second by

02:28:43.479 --> 02:28:44.959
Council

02:28:45.040 --> 02:28:48.719
B  I won't speak  too long to this

02:28:48.799 --> 02:28:50.639
 I think that you know we just wanted

02:28:50.719 --> 02:28:53.799
to acknowledge that   you know B

02:28:53.879 --> 02:28:56.520
Exel  has been the current chair for

02:28:56.600 --> 02:28:58.200
many years I'm actually not sure how

02:28:58.280 --> 02:29:01.479
long  sorry my laptop's gone flat so I

02:29:01.559 --> 02:29:04.079
don't have my papers in front of me but

02:29:04.159 --> 02:29:06.440
certainly  I've served on  the audit

02:29:06.520 --> 02:29:08.959
and risk committee  along with the

02:29:09.040 --> 02:29:11.440
mayor and  Council Griffin and I know

02:29:11.520 --> 02:29:13.399
that all our independent  committee

02:29:13.479 --> 02:29:16.000
members have put huge amounts of time

02:29:16.079 --> 02:29:17.680
they put so much thought into this and

02:29:17.760 --> 02:29:19.040
we're very lucky to have them and their

02:29:19.120 --> 02:29:23.040
expertise and  you know  B has

02:29:23.120 --> 02:29:25.719
chaired  our meetings certainly for as

02:29:25.799 --> 02:29:27.200
long as I've been on the order risk and

02:29:27.280 --> 02:29:28.719
it's it's a huge amount of work it's

02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:31.479
very appreciated  what we get from the

02:29:31.559 --> 02:29:33.079
committee and the expertise of the audit

02:29:33.159 --> 02:29:35.559
risk committee  as well now this is

02:29:35.639 --> 02:29:40.559
only  for a year and  this is partly

02:29:40.639 --> 02:29:43.000
because  there's always a plan to sort

02:29:43.079 --> 02:29:44.079
of

02:29:44.159 --> 02:29:47.920
transition  our sort of internal sort

02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:50.319
of independent members and their exper

02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:52.520
there's term limits which I don't have

02:29:52.600 --> 02:29:54.000
my laptop in front of me so I can't

02:29:54.079 --> 02:29:57.440
quote them but this is done to provide

02:29:57.520 --> 02:30:00.159
some C certainty and some

02:30:00.239 --> 02:30:02.360
experience and continuity for the

02:30:02.440 --> 02:30:05.319
committee while also allowing  us to

02:30:05.399 --> 02:30:08.879
get new people in as appropriate so this

02:30:08.959 --> 02:30:12.719
is a a year-long  appointment after 

02:30:12.799 --> 02:30:14.879
B has served for many years in a role

02:30:14.959 --> 02:30:18.799
already and so  you know in the next

02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:21.399
term of council  that will be relooked

02:30:21.479 --> 02:30:22.600
at for whether there's a longer

02:30:22.680 --> 02:30:24.879
appointment for a new chair  but sort

02:30:24.959 --> 02:30:27.959
of you know this is almost  just just

02:30:28.040 --> 02:30:30.000
as a way to help transition the

02:30:30.079 --> 02:30:31.399
committee and support the committee in

02:30:31.479 --> 02:30:33.760
its ongoing work rather than sort of

02:30:33.840 --> 02:30:35.959
making B through this forever which I'm

02:30:36.040 --> 02:30:39.280
sure she wouldn't want to do  I'll

02:30:39.360 --> 02:30:40.959
I'll leave it to other councils if they

02:30:41.040 --> 02:30:43.200
also want to comment but to note that 

02:30:43.280 --> 02:30:47.159
you audit and ruse committee is really

02:30:47.239 --> 02:30:49.280
important to council and we've heard the

02:30:49.360 --> 02:30:51.399
report from earlier today a chair's

02:30:51.479 --> 02:30:54.559
report but it is important because it is

02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:56.719
really independent of council and it's a

02:30:56.799 --> 02:30:58.680
way for us to really have a way of

02:30:58.760 --> 02:31:00.680
reviewing and independent experts look

02:31:00.760 --> 02:31:02.319
at what we're doing from a governance

02:31:02.399 --> 02:31:04.719
financial management perspective so its

02:31:04.799 --> 02:31:07.680
role is is very important and as I said

02:31:07.760 --> 02:31:10.040
I think we've been very lucky to have

02:31:10.120 --> 02:31:13.000
the expertise and quality work of the

02:31:13.079 --> 02:31:15.079
independent committee members 

02:31:15.159 --> 02:31:18.319
certainly since I've been on

02:31:18.600 --> 02:31:20.840
Council Council Mor did a wonderful job

02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:22.120
without the office of recommendation

02:31:22.200 --> 02:31:24.159
when your notes in front of you  look

02:31:24.239 --> 02:31:26.319
b i I was on ordin committe for two

02:31:26.399 --> 02:31:28.200
years with be's chair and she certainly

02:31:28.280 --> 02:31:29.520
was the chair in the year prior of that

02:31:29.600 --> 02:31:31.719
I believe so this this provides another

02:31:31.799 --> 02:31:34.000
year under her guidance and Leadership

02:31:34.079 --> 02:31:36.200
she has led significant uplift and

02:31:36.280 --> 02:31:38.440
maturity around the committee in

02:31:38.520 --> 02:31:39.920
discharging of oversight

02:31:40.000 --> 02:31:41.360
responsibilities on finance and

02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.360
performance reporting risk management

02:31:43.440 --> 02:31:45.559
intern of controls and assurances and

02:31:45.639 --> 02:31:50.159
the list goes on  this importantly

02:31:50.239 --> 02:31:51.879
term comes up to the maxim at the end

02:31:51.959 --> 02:31:54.799
of next year this provides for 6 months

02:31:54.879 --> 02:31:57.120
after the chair role finishes to then

02:31:57.200 --> 02:31:58.840
provide some guidance and support to the

02:31:58.920 --> 02:32:01.319
next chair  so that then we can have a

02:32:01.399 --> 02:32:04.520
seamless transition so so happy to

02:32:04.600 --> 02:32:08.600
support any

02:32:14.760 --> 02:32:17.239
speakers okay last of

02:32:17.319 --> 02:32:19.920
business 11 instrent of app

02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:21.639
authorization

02:32:21.719 --> 02:32:26.120
stat move by coun Co and by coun G this

02:32:26.200 --> 02:32:28.120
is  this is just a

02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:30.479
houskeeping piece  it's an instrent

02:32:30.559 --> 02:32:33.520
of appointment and authorization  for

02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:36.399
for planning it the report speaks but I

02:32:36.479 --> 02:32:37.520
think we need to say much

02:32:37.600 --> 02:32:39.239
[Applause]

02:32:39.319 --> 02:32:42.600
more anyone else

02:32:42.680 --> 02:32:44.600
speak

02:32:44.680 --> 02:32:47.920
favor so thank you coun okay we'll move

02:32:48.000 --> 02:32:50.840
into correspondence council do you have

02:32:50.920 --> 02:32:53.360
any questions to

02:32:53.440 --> 02:32:56.120
T thank you may  I'll probably have

02:32:56.200 --> 02:32:59.319
some question to this  in we get a

02:32:59.399 --> 02:33:02.920
chance to  but IED emails regarding 

02:33:03.000 --> 02:33:07.520
dogs  off lead both in on lead parks

02:33:07.600 --> 02:33:11.479
and also on our streets  I've also

02:33:11.559 --> 02:33:15.559
received  an email regarding improving

02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:19.440
signage  similar to Yar council with

02:33:19.520 --> 02:33:25.159
regard to  dogs off leash  which

02:33:25.239 --> 02:33:26.680
they're asking to highlight the need for

02:33:26.760 --> 02:33:28.760
people to take more control of the dogs

02:33:28.840 --> 02:33:34.639
in public space that coun coun  thanks

02:33:34.719 --> 02:33:36.200
mayor I continue to receive

02:33:36.280 --> 02:33:39.000
correspondence regarding turac Village

02:33:39.079 --> 02:33:41.440
Paving rectification works that are

02:33:41.520 --> 02:33:43.479
required and

02:33:43.559 --> 02:33:46.840
cleaning people do walk their dogs there

02:33:46.920 --> 02:33:49.840
and it's obvious

02:33:49.920 --> 02:33:52.120
go  thanks mayor I've got an item of

02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:55.319
Correspondence relating to 8.3 Amendment

02:33:55.399 --> 02:33:59.719
c388 ston it just came in  from

02:33:59.799 --> 02:34:03.120
offices previously it's from the WCC The

02:34:03.200 --> 02:34:05.600
Windsor Community Children's Center and

02:34:05.680 --> 02:34:08.159
it  I'll pass it around we can table

02:34:08.239 --> 02:34:10.639
it  there's a rainbow on there for

02:34:10.719 --> 02:34:12.959
those online and it says thank you dear

02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:14.799
Council the children families and staff

02:34:14.879 --> 02:34:16.559
members at the Windsor Community

02:34:16.639 --> 02:34:18.159
children center would like to say thank

02:34:18.239 --> 02:34:19.840
you for coming to visit thank you for

02:34:19.920 --> 02:34:21.760
visiting us thank you for supporting us

02:34:21.840 --> 02:34:23.760
thank you for coming to my Kinder thank

02:34:23.840 --> 02:34:26.600
you for fighting for us thank you and 

02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:30.159
it's a maybe that can join the the art

02:34:30.239 --> 02:34:33.120
[Laughter]

02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:36.639
collection okay any other correspondence

02:34:36.719 --> 02:34:38.840
counselors okay we'll move along to

02:34:38.920 --> 02:34:40.760
table petitions and Joint letters do we

02:34:40.840 --> 02:34:43.799
have any petitions

02:34:43.879 --> 02:34:47.120
joint no excellent let's move along to

02:34:47.200 --> 02:34:50.959
notices of motion

02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:52.680
04-

02:34:52.760 --> 02:34:56.120
2024 Mo

02:34:56.200 --> 02:34:59.159
this second

02:34:59.239 --> 02:35:03.639
by Council Scott Council thank you  so

02:35:03.719 --> 02:35:05.680
this is a motion about good governance

02:35:05.760 --> 02:35:08.479
and our commitment to transparency and

02:35:08.559 --> 02:35:11.040
accountability  as you know the

02:35:11.120 --> 02:35:14.120
findings of oper operation sand and ibat

02:35:14.200 --> 02:35:15.840
investigation to corrupt conduct within

02:35:15.920 --> 02:35:18.040
local government sent shock waves

02:35:18.120 --> 02:35:20.000
through the sector  and while the

02:35:20.079 --> 02:35:22.879
events and Casey might may seem distant

02:35:22.959 --> 02:35:25.159
 the reports recommendations serve as

02:35:25.239 --> 02:35:26.760
a great reminder of our shared

02:35:26.840 --> 02:35:29.479
responsibility to uphold  the highest

02:35:29.559 --> 02:35:32.680
ethical standards

02:35:32.760 --> 02:35:35.280
 the recommendations aimed at

02:35:35.360 --> 02:35:37.879
promoting transparency in  planning

02:35:37.959 --> 02:35:40.399
decisions  oh sorry operation s wasn't

02:35:40.479 --> 02:35:43.040
just about individual wrongdoings expose

02:35:43.120 --> 02:35:45.559
systemic vulnerabilities that demand our

02:35:45.639 --> 02:35:50.239
attention  while the

02:35:50.319 --> 02:35:51.840
Victorian government has expressed

02:35:51.920 --> 02:35:54.120
support for developing one government's

02:35:54.200 --> 02:35:55.920
rules I believe that Stonington has an

02:35:56.000 --> 02:35:58.200
opportunity to be proactive and we can

02:35:58.280 --> 02:36:00.680
Implement key changes now to demonstrate

02:36:00.760 --> 02:36:02.280
our commitment to good governments to

02:36:02.360 --> 02:36:05.440
rebuild public trust in local government

02:36:05.520 --> 02:36:07.680
as a sector therefore I move that

02:36:07.760 --> 02:36:10.600
Council adopt recommendations 23 and 24

02:36:10.680 --> 02:36:12.120
of operations sanding into our

02:36:12.200 --> 02:36:14.360
government rules these recommendations

02:36:14.440 --> 02:36:16.239
essentially stop the ability to vote on

02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:18.079
block and ensure that we recall the

02:36:18.159 --> 02:36:19.840
names of councilors who have spoken to a

02:36:19.920 --> 02:36:22.000
motion and those who voted for and

02:36:22.079 --> 02:36:23.520
against a motion regardless of whether

02:36:23.600 --> 02:36:25.920
or not division is called  I note

02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:27.360
there were other recommendations related

02:36:27.440 --> 02:36:29.399
to government's enhancements regarding

02:36:29.479 --> 02:36:32.159
planning reports however more clarity 

02:36:32.239 --> 02:36:33.399
officers given guidance that more

02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:35.159
clarity is required around these

02:36:35.239 --> 02:36:37.600
recommendations before they can be

02:36:37.680 --> 02:36:39.879
implemented  by adopting these changes

02:36:39.959 --> 02:36:41.559
we're demonstrating that our

02:36:41.639 --> 02:36:43.879
constituents  that to our constituents

02:36:43.959 --> 02:36:47.360
that we are proactive  and we value a

02:36:47.440 --> 02:36:49.559
transparent Council that's open to

02:36:49.639 --> 02:36:53.200
continual Improvement thank

02:36:53.280 --> 02:36:55.920
you I'll reserve my right than you than

02:36:56.000 --> 02:36:58.760
anyone else like to speak  yes look I

02:36:58.840 --> 02:37:00.239
want to congratulate the councilors

02:37:00.319 --> 02:37:02.399
whose names are on this notice of motion

02:37:02.479 --> 02:37:04.399
 I think it's a further step along the

02:37:04.479 --> 02:37:06.360
way to Total transparency and

02:37:06.440 --> 02:37:08.559
accountability and a reminder of the

02:37:08.639 --> 02:37:10.639
need for counselors to be accountable

02:37:10.719 --> 02:37:13.920
for how they vote  it follows the the

02:37:14.000 --> 02:37:15.719
decision Council decision to open up

02:37:15.799 --> 02:37:17.360
meetings to public statements and I

02:37:17.440 --> 02:37:18.760
think we're seeing the benefit of that

02:37:18.840 --> 02:37:21.440
already in the greater  interest being

02:37:21.520 --> 02:37:23.799
shown by our community it ensures that

02:37:23.879 --> 02:37:26.040
we as councilors actually vote according

02:37:26.120 --> 02:37:28.200
to what we promised when we're elected

02:37:28.280 --> 02:37:30.000
what an unusual concept that would be in

02:37:30.079 --> 02:37:32.559
the political world  this is not a

02:37:32.639 --> 02:37:34.120
private club running for Run for the

02:37:34.200 --> 02:37:35.600
benefit of counselors we're here to

02:37:35.680 --> 02:37:38.079
represent our community  and that

02:37:38.159 --> 02:37:41.079
means being transparent about how we

02:37:41.159 --> 02:37:43.440
vote  this level of Integrity

02:37:43.520 --> 02:37:44.920
accountability is not really being

02:37:45.000 --> 02:37:46.319
demonstrated at other levels of

02:37:46.399 --> 02:37:47.520
government so but I think we at

02:37:47.600 --> 02:37:49.920
Donington can show the way it

02:37:50.000 --> 02:37:51.879
demonstrates that we value our role as

02:37:51.959 --> 02:37:53.959
counselors and that our role is to

02:37:54.040 --> 02:37:55.680
advocate for our community its best

02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:57.719
interests and what we want our and we

02:37:57.799 --> 02:38:00.840
want our community to know how we vote

02:38:00.920 --> 02:38:02.920
the more open and accountable council is

02:38:03.000 --> 02:38:05.719
the more we can expect debate on issues

02:38:05.799 --> 02:38:09.000
and that that debate is issues based not

02:38:09.079 --> 02:38:12.639
determined by collusion or who owes who

02:38:12.719 --> 02:38:14.200
local government can show the way to

02:38:14.280 --> 02:38:16.319
more transparent and accountable

02:38:16.399 --> 02:38:18.559
Behavior I think the brand of council

02:38:18.639 --> 02:38:20.920
has suffered a lot because of lack of

02:38:21.000 --> 02:38:23.280
accountability  and transparency and I

02:38:23.360 --> 02:38:25.879
think this goes a further way further

02:38:25.959 --> 02:38:28.920
step to achieving total transparency and

02:38:29.000 --> 02:38:32.079
accountability by each counselor thank

02:38:32.159 --> 02:38:34.760
you to speak to this

02:38:34.840 --> 02:38:38.319
item yes for you mayor  I think that

02:38:38.399 --> 02:38:40.440
this is a really welcome Council hly

02:38:40.520 --> 02:38:44.000
bringing this I know maybe  there

02:38:44.079 --> 02:38:46.200
there could be a case argued that we

02:38:46.280 --> 02:38:49.000
should wait for the model counsel code

02:38:49.079 --> 02:38:52.440
of conduct and a model governance rules

02:38:52.520 --> 02:38:55.120
 that the state government will hope

02:38:55.200 --> 02:38:56.840
also be developing and that will come

02:38:56.920 --> 02:38:59.680
forward in the next term however I do

02:38:59.760 --> 02:39:03.000
think that on these items they're quite

02:39:03.079 --> 02:39:05.319
easy to implement it's really straight

02:39:05.399 --> 02:39:09.079
forward we can do this  and if you

02:39:09.159 --> 02:39:11.200
know these become allowed under model

02:39:11.280 --> 02:39:14.079
governance rules  you know we can go

02:39:14.159 --> 02:39:18.120
back to allowing them but if they are

02:39:18.200 --> 02:39:20.520
also actually be step to taken and these

02:39:20.600 --> 02:39:22.719
are recommendations from operation s and

02:39:22.799 --> 02:39:25.079
IC and if they are incorporated into a

02:39:25.159 --> 02:39:26.680
model Council of code of conduct and

02:39:26.760 --> 02:39:28.600
model governance rules in the future

02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:30.079
then we've already just done this

02:39:30.159 --> 02:39:32.159
earlier this  finding that is

02:39:32.239 --> 02:39:36.360
recommended I do think though that 

02:39:36.440 --> 02:39:39.959
you know the timing I mean it would be

02:39:40.040 --> 02:39:41.959
better to to have a lot of more

02:39:42.040 --> 02:39:43.959
Community consultation I think but we're

02:39:44.040 --> 02:39:46.319
coming towards the end of the term so

02:39:46.399 --> 02:39:49.719
it's it's not something that  I think

02:39:49.799 --> 02:39:52.159
is is a sort of deliberate thing to put

02:39:52.239 --> 02:39:53.719
it here I think it's more that it's just

02:39:53.799 --> 02:39:56.440
come up as an issue that you know  the

02:39:56.520 --> 02:39:59.280
Local Government Act  has been

02:39:59.360 --> 02:40:00.920
recently amended and there was an

02:40:01.000 --> 02:40:02.479
opportunity perhaps that this could have

02:40:02.559 --> 02:40:04.200
been codified there now that was passed

02:40:04.280 --> 02:40:08.120
in June so I think that although it

02:40:08.200 --> 02:40:11.239
could be argued that you know perhaps we

02:40:11.319 --> 02:40:12.760
should have done this earlier when the

02:40:12.840 --> 02:40:14.239
recommendations first came out I think

02:40:14.319 --> 02:40:15.719
it was appropriate to hold off and see

02:40:15.799 --> 02:40:17.440
where the state government was going

02:40:17.520 --> 02:40:18.959
with changes to the Local Government Act

02:40:19.040 --> 02:40:20.600
now can see it's going to be a longer

02:40:20.680 --> 02:40:24.360
process to  you know look at  model

02:40:24.440 --> 02:40:26.040
council code of conduct for instance

02:40:26.120 --> 02:40:29.319
which will happen  for the next term

02:40:29.399 --> 02:40:31.600
so I can see both sides of it there but

02:40:31.680 --> 02:40:33.120
I think that you know it was right to

02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:37.159
not try and bring this earlier  until

02:40:37.239 --> 02:40:38.719
the local government amendments that

02:40:38.799 --> 02:40:40.079
went through in June went through just

02:40:40.159 --> 02:40:42.319
to see if the state government was going

02:40:42.399 --> 02:40:44.040
to do it then we wouldn't have needed to

02:40:44.120 --> 02:40:46.000
do this you know and they've not

02:40:46.079 --> 02:40:47.879
addressed it yet doesn't mean they won't

02:40:47.959 --> 02:40:49.319
address it in the future in fact I'm I'm

02:40:49.399 --> 02:40:51.479
pretty sure they will  one of the

02:40:51.559 --> 02:40:53.360
things that concerns me the most is I I

02:40:53.440 --> 02:40:55.200
do agree with Council Griffin about

02:40:55.280 --> 02:40:58.799
having  how people vote reported just

02:40:58.879 --> 02:41:00.879
automatically is a good thing I'm kind

02:41:00.959 --> 02:41:02.920
of sick of calling Division I know I've

02:41:03.000 --> 02:41:05.079
done it a lot of times but I think that

02:41:05.159 --> 02:41:06.959
you know it should just happen so I

02:41:07.040 --> 02:41:09.079
think that's a real positive and it does

02:41:09.159 --> 02:41:12.000
improve transparency but I also think on

02:41:12.079 --> 02:41:15.840
block motions I think that you know when

02:41:15.920 --> 02:41:17.399
used appropriately they're they're

02:41:17.479 --> 02:41:19.000
harmless you know they just collate a

02:41:19.079 --> 02:41:20.840
lot of administrative things together

02:41:20.920 --> 02:41:23.879
and just get done but there are huge

02:41:23.959 --> 02:41:25.479
issues with how these can be abused and

02:41:25.559 --> 02:41:27.200
they're abused at Casey Council and what

02:41:27.280 --> 02:41:30.000
it meant was that debate was curtailed

02:41:30.079 --> 02:41:32.319
meetings finished in under an hour

02:41:32.399 --> 02:41:35.079
routinely and a whole heap of unrelated

02:41:35.159 --> 02:41:36.920
items that were substantial that were

02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:39.239
significant had impact on the community

02:41:39.319 --> 02:41:41.040
got passed I'll just SE an extension of

02:41:41.120 --> 02:41:43.280
one

02:41:43.719 --> 02:41:46.280
minute and so so many decisions there

02:41:46.360 --> 02:41:47.879
you know would be voted on and you'd

02:41:47.959 --> 02:41:49.719
have a whole different things get voted

02:41:49.799 --> 02:41:52.840
on on block  which meant that you know

02:41:52.920 --> 02:41:55.000
you you only get to speak for 3 minutes

02:41:55.079 --> 02:41:56.520
or whatever their government's rules

02:41:56.600 --> 02:41:58.639
were in terms of how a counselor can

02:41:58.719 --> 02:42:01.120
speak instead of on each individual item

02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:03.000
we didn't actually have extensive you

02:42:03.079 --> 02:42:04.719
know you wouldn't had extensive debates

02:42:04.799 --> 02:42:06.719
and this meeting's been long it's been

02:42:06.799 --> 02:42:08.040
long for a reason because we've had a

02:42:08.120 --> 02:42:10.000
lot of really important issues here we

02:42:10.079 --> 02:42:12.639
saw our our Gallery was full with people

02:42:12.719 --> 02:42:14.239
who were concerned about a matter and we

02:42:14.319 --> 02:42:16.120
debated that very thoroughly we've

02:42:16.200 --> 02:42:18.239
talked about everything and considered

02:42:18.319 --> 02:42:19.840
everything on its Merit it's not been

02:42:19.920 --> 02:42:22.159
rushed through hidden from debate and

02:42:22.239 --> 02:42:24.360
just tipped and flipped and that's why

02:42:24.440 --> 02:42:26.920
on block motion should be banned thank

02:42:27.000 --> 02:42:30.239
you Cil any other speakers

02:42:30.319 --> 02:42:32.920
to  I have a real fundamental issue

02:42:33.000 --> 02:42:35.360
with this notice of motion first and

02:42:35.440 --> 02:42:38.399
foremost we had a briefing two weeks ago

02:42:38.479 --> 02:42:40.159
and two days later we received this

02:42:40.239 --> 02:42:42.520
notice of motion which has had a lot of

02:42:42.600 --> 02:42:44.520
work put into it but I don't understand

02:42:44.600 --> 02:42:46.840
why something so critical wasn't raised

02:42:46.920 --> 02:42:48.040
at a briefing

02:42:48.120 --> 02:42:50.159
session

02:42:50.239 --> 02:42:55.159
secondly 4 weeks ago on the 24th of June

02:42:55.239 --> 02:42:57.520
yourself as mayor and Deputy Mayor moved

02:42:57.600 --> 02:42:59.680
an on block Motion in relation to the

02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:02.120
budget which is the biggest decision

02:43:02.200 --> 02:43:05.319
that this Council makes each year so I'm

02:43:05.399 --> 02:43:08.000
at a loss to understand why 4 weeks

02:43:08.079 --> 02:43:10.559
later we're now moving a notice of

02:43:10.639 --> 02:43:13.079
motion when we're heading into caretaker

02:43:13.159 --> 02:43:16.280
period to stop on block motions it's

02:43:16.360 --> 02:43:18.600
also fundamentally flawed we talk about

02:43:18.680 --> 02:43:21.559
operations sandon operation sandon

02:43:21.639 --> 02:43:23.399
refers to planning and property

02:43:23.479 --> 02:43:25.600
development decisions at the city of

02:43:25.680 --> 02:43:28.639
Casey and those recommendations

02:43:28.719 --> 02:43:31.319
including those followed up by the

02:43:31.399 --> 02:43:33.479
Ombudsman are that on block voting

02:43:33.559 --> 02:43:36.760
should only occur in clearly defined

02:43:36.840 --> 02:43:39.719
circstances including on block voting

02:43:39.799 --> 02:43:41.479
should not be used to decide planning

02:43:41.559 --> 02:43:43.360
matters or other matters where the

02:43:43.440 --> 02:43:46.079
interests of third party third parties

02:43:46.159 --> 02:43:48.239
are involved what do our government's

02:43:48.319 --> 02:43:49.520
rules say

02:43:49.600 --> 02:43:52.520
when are on block motions prohibited

02:43:52.600 --> 02:43:54.399
items relating to planning matters that

02:43:54.479 --> 02:43:57.280
involve statuto third party rights so

02:43:57.360 --> 02:44:00.920
I'm at a loss to understand why we have

02:44:01.000 --> 02:44:03.239
items one and two in the notice of

02:44:03.319 --> 02:44:06.559
motion secondly three again go to my

02:44:06.639 --> 02:44:10.159
point why is it now one meeting after we

02:44:10.239 --> 02:44:12.440
did an enblock motion on the budget Are

02:44:12.520 --> 02:44:15.040
We Now dealing with prohibiting on block

02:44:15.120 --> 02:44:17.840
motions and furthermore we're not even

02:44:17.920 --> 02:44:19.639
putting them out to community engagement

02:44:19.719 --> 02:44:21.559
we talk about transparency and asking

02:44:21.639 --> 02:44:24.760
our community well why aren't 

02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:27.200
supposed changes to recommendation 23

02:44:27.280 --> 02:44:30.479
and recommendation 24 included in the

02:44:30.559 --> 02:44:33.040
Motions that in included in the proposed

02:44:33.120 --> 02:44:34.879
amendments to our governance rules that

02:44:34.959 --> 02:44:36.639
are going out to the purposes for

02:44:36.719 --> 02:44:38.559
Community engagement for the period the

02:44:38.639 --> 02:44:41.479
24th of July to the 14th of August and

02:44:41.559 --> 02:44:44.760
speaking of that period so engagement

02:44:44.840 --> 02:44:46.639
Community engagement would end on August

02:44:46.719 --> 02:44:49.360
the 14th at the very earliest would come

02:44:49.440 --> 02:44:52.360
back to briefing on the 26th of August

02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:54.239
then the council meeting assing it

02:44:54.319 --> 02:44:56.520
doesn't get deferred is the 2nd of

02:44:56.600 --> 02:44:59.399
September and 15 days later we're in

02:44:59.479 --> 02:45:02.399
election period so taking Council

02:45:02.479 --> 02:45:04.360
badal's words there'll be a new bunch of

02:45:04.440 --> 02:45:06.760
people sitting around the table let let

02:45:06.840 --> 02:45:08.600
let them make the decision there are

02:45:08.680 --> 02:45:09.959
other things that I would have liked to

02:45:10.040 --> 02:45:12.079
included in this n about timing of

02:45:12.159 --> 02:45:13.959
speakers there was some confusion a few

02:45:14.040 --> 02:45:16.360
meetings ago so I just see this

02:45:16.440 --> 02:45:18.879
completely lacking in transparency andet

02:45:18.959 --> 02:45:20.479
completely going against the principles

02:45:20.559 --> 02:45:22.559
of good governance and I'll be not

02:45:22.639 --> 02:45:24.319
voting for

02:45:24.399 --> 02:45:28.159
it sir speak

02:45:28.239 --> 02:45:32.639
to thank you may so I see this  know

02:45:32.719 --> 02:45:35.159
the motion is pretty straightforward 

02:45:35.239 --> 02:45:36.559
by bringing it now we're at the

02:45:36.639 --> 02:45:38.520
Forefront of responding to the

02:45:38.600 --> 02:45:40.760
recommendations from the santon report

02:45:40.840 --> 02:45:43.639
and I think that's a good thing I think

02:45:43.719 --> 02:45:44.959
we don't need to wait for the state

02:45:45.040 --> 02:45:46.239
government to get their act together

02:45:46.319 --> 02:45:47.200
because we don't know how long that's

02:45:47.280 --> 02:45:49.920
going to take  I also think that this

02:45:50.000 --> 02:45:54.440
sets us up  to respond to any  of

02:45:54.520 --> 02:45:56.079
the model governance rules and model

02:45:56.159 --> 02:45:59.520
Council C conduct in the leadup to or in

02:45:59.600 --> 02:46:02.079
preparation for the next term of council

02:46:02.159 --> 02:46:03.600
so the next term of council will already

02:46:03.680 --> 02:46:05.840
have these in place and we'll be able to

02:46:05.920 --> 02:46:08.319
start to implement them immediately

02:46:08.399 --> 02:46:10.680
rather than have to learn what we

02:46:10.760 --> 02:46:12.559
currently have and then relearn what we

02:46:12.639 --> 02:46:17.079
have in the future I think  I just

02:46:17.159 --> 02:46:19.600
said that so I also think that 

02:46:19.680 --> 02:46:21.799
to council's point that we had planned

02:46:21.879 --> 02:46:23.200
to bring this to the next Council

02:46:23.280 --> 02:46:26.040
briefing but we're advised by Council

02:46:26.120 --> 02:46:28.000
officers that it wouldn't get through

02:46:28.079 --> 02:46:29.840
consultation in time so that's why it

02:46:29.920 --> 02:46:32.040
was fast traed and why we communicated

02:46:32.120 --> 02:46:35.399
this out to councilors last THS or

02:46:35.479 --> 02:46:37.000
Wednesday

02:46:37.079 --> 02:46:39.200
W thank

02:46:39.280 --> 02:46:42.479
you question  I guess it's a it's a

02:46:42.559 --> 02:46:44.600
question of governance as to why

02:46:44.680 --> 02:46:46.600
councilors are having to do why why

02:46:46.680 --> 02:46:49.319
haven't officers proactively provided a

02:46:49.399 --> 02:46:51.239
report and are recommending these

02:46:51.319 --> 02:46:53.000
changes if they're so important why is

02:46:53.079 --> 02:46:54.559
it coming through a notice of motion and

02:46:54.639 --> 02:46:58.040
not through an officer report and

02:46:59.520 --> 02:47:02.000
recommendation through you chair  I

02:47:02.079 --> 02:47:05.319
was asked  to assess with the notice

02:47:05.399 --> 02:47:07.680
of motion and and how that might

02:47:07.760 --> 02:47:09.799
actually look and that's what I did 

02:47:09.879 --> 02:47:11.520
at the councilman's

02:47:11.600 --> 02:47:13.559
request but I guess already amended the

02:47:13.639 --> 02:47:15.200
government's rules last year councilor

02:47:15.280 --> 02:47:17.959
Co I guess that if I guess that what I'm

02:47:18.040 --> 02:47:20.959
trying to get from office is a sense of

02:47:21.040 --> 02:47:23.360
and I'm not an expert obviously in in

02:47:23.440 --> 02:47:26.120
governance as you are is this required

02:47:26.200 --> 02:47:28.600
or not and if it is required why haven't

02:47:28.680 --> 02:47:30.840
officers prepared a report and done a

02:47:30.920 --> 02:47:32.440
recommendation why is it coming in an ad

02:47:32.520 --> 02:47:34.799
hoc way if if it's required is it

02:47:34.879 --> 02:47:37.079
required or isn't it required three you

02:47:37.159 --> 02:47:38.840
man no it's not required it's a

02:47:38.920 --> 02:47:41.000
council's

02:47:41.079 --> 02:47:44.520
disc if I could speak I guess  I don't

02:47:44.600 --> 02:47:46.799
have an objection to higher governance

02:47:46.879 --> 02:47:50.120
standards I guess my concern is I don't

02:47:50.200 --> 02:47:53.879
have advice from officers around whether

02:47:53.959 --> 02:47:56.159
this is comprehensive enough or not

02:47:56.239 --> 02:47:59.040
whether there are gaps here or not I

02:47:59.120 --> 02:48:02.520
would like a more folsome set of advice

02:48:02.600 --> 02:48:06.040
from our our professional staff

02:48:06.120 --> 02:48:10.280
so that that's the concern I have and I

02:48:10.360 --> 02:48:12.440
don't have any issue with counselors

02:48:12.520 --> 02:48:14.799
names being recorded us not having to go

02:48:14.879 --> 02:48:17.559
through  through divisions and all

02:48:17.639 --> 02:48:19.479
that sort of thing but I I'd like it all

02:48:19.559 --> 02:48:21.600
wrapped up with with officer advice and

02:48:21.680 --> 02:48:24.000
professional advice around it so that's

02:48:24.079 --> 02:48:26.280
the trepidation I have  is it

02:48:26.360 --> 02:48:28.719
comprehensive enough or not are there

02:48:28.799 --> 02:48:31.959
gaps or not is this true to the spirit

02:48:32.040 --> 02:48:33.959
and letter of what Sandown is expecting

02:48:34.040 --> 02:48:35.799
counselors is it align to what the state

02:48:35.879 --> 02:48:37.520
government is is expecting from

02:48:37.600 --> 02:48:39.799
counselors as well so from counsels as

02:48:39.879 --> 02:48:41.799
well so I guess I would have liked

02:48:41.879 --> 02:48:44.280
something a little bit more thorough and

02:48:44.360 --> 02:48:46.159
 a little bit allow a little bit more

02:48:46.239 --> 02:48:48.760
time for consideration

02:48:48.840 --> 02:48:52.040
Council CS Council P thank you mayor 

02:48:52.120 --> 02:48:54.319
some really really good diverse points

02:48:54.399 --> 02:48:56.479
raised so thank youone I mean I think we

02:48:56.559 --> 02:48:57.760
all agree there's not too much in here

02:48:57.840 --> 02:48:59.520
that's controversial that's not the

02:48:59.600 --> 02:49:01.000
point it's just the timing and how this

02:49:01.079 --> 02:49:03.600
has come to be  I didn't sign this

02:49:03.680 --> 02:49:05.200
notice of motion cuz I didn't have the

02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:07.159
time to commit to it by the timelines

02:49:07.239 --> 02:49:09.639
that were  required for the Wednesday

02:49:09.719 --> 02:49:12.079
morning to put the the thought into it

02:49:12.159 --> 02:49:15.079
so  have had a few more days obviously

02:49:15.159 --> 02:49:17.120
since it was then signed to think about

02:49:17.200 --> 02:49:19.440
it as Council Morgan said it might be

02:49:19.520 --> 02:49:20.959
codified and streamlined across the

02:49:21.040 --> 02:49:22.479
sector but there's no reason why we

02:49:22.559 --> 02:49:24.760
can't take a leadership role on this 

02:49:24.840 --> 02:49:26.680
at that recent that exact meeting that

02:49:26.760 --> 02:49:28.360
you mentioned Council say there was a

02:49:28.440 --> 02:49:30.280
whole bunch of confusion about that on

02:49:30.360 --> 02:49:33.360
block and and some  about how we'd

02:49:33.440 --> 02:49:35.879
actually done that I don't really see an

02:49:35.959 --> 02:49:37.840
issue in removing on block  and that

02:49:37.920 --> 02:49:39.840
we go through each agenda item

02:49:39.920 --> 02:49:41.280
individually and in terms of recording

02:49:41.360 --> 02:49:43.280
the names of counselors who voted who

02:49:43.360 --> 02:49:45.840
voted for and against  you know this

02:49:45.920 --> 02:49:47.559
to me is fairly straightforward

02:49:47.639 --> 02:49:49.200
personally I've always found the

02:49:49.280 --> 02:49:50.639
the process of calling for division to

02:49:50.719 --> 02:49:53.120
be really really confusing and very very

02:49:53.200 --> 02:49:55.239
archaic  and I tried to find out where

02:49:55.319 --> 02:49:57.360
on it came from it was created literally

02:49:57.440 --> 02:49:59.360
to divide members into two separate

02:49:59.440 --> 02:50:03.200
physical groups in the Roman senate so I

02:50:03.280 --> 02:50:06.719
think it's a tried and pro we modernized

02:50:06.799 --> 02:50:08.440
 which we have done we have modernized

02:50:08.520 --> 02:50:10.000
we now raise our hands so we don't

02:50:10.079 --> 02:50:12.159
physically move around the chamber but

02:50:12.239 --> 02:50:13.760
even so the current process does create

02:50:13.840 --> 02:50:15.200
duplication with the calling out of

02:50:15.280 --> 02:50:16.440
names at the end of the vote and doing

02:50:16.520 --> 02:50:18.959
the two castings of the vote Etc

02:50:19.040 --> 02:50:20.719
personally I see no issue with putting

02:50:20.799 --> 02:50:22.680
this out to community consultation comes

02:50:22.760 --> 02:50:24.479
back whether we're the ones that make

02:50:24.559 --> 02:50:26.239
the decision or or we decide that it's

02:50:26.319 --> 02:50:27.559
actually more appropriate that we

02:50:27.639 --> 02:50:28.959
provide this information to the next

02:50:29.040 --> 02:50:30.520
Council and the next bunch of people

02:50:30.600 --> 02:50:32.000
sitting around this table that they can

02:50:32.079 --> 02:50:33.559
make this decision I don't see any

02:50:33.639 --> 02:50:35.000
reason why we can't actually start the

02:50:35.079 --> 02:50:36.920
work  put some of the thought into it

02:50:37.000 --> 02:50:39.000
and then present it  we've already

02:50:39.079 --> 02:50:40.760
implemented and taken a leadership role

02:50:40.840 --> 02:50:42.239
in some of the sand

02:50:42.319 --> 02:50:44.319
recommendations  and this shows that

02:50:44.399 --> 02:50:47.559
we're taking further leadership and

02:50:47.639 --> 02:50:49.479
initiative El

02:50:49.559 --> 02:50:51.719
speakers I'll just make a few comments

02:50:51.799 --> 02:50:53.799
look one one of my biggest regrets of

02:50:53.879 --> 02:50:56.840
the mayor was that last meeting and that

02:50:56.920 --> 02:50:59.600
on block Ming those those  those

02:50:59.680 --> 02:51:02.159
budget items on block it is one of my

02:51:02.239 --> 02:51:04.719
biggest regrets  you know I'm

02:51:04.799 --> 02:51:06.600
supported of this probably for that

02:51:06.680 --> 02:51:09.000
reason  now just getting back to the

02:51:09.079 --> 02:51:10.879
calling of the division now it's not

02:51:10.959 --> 02:51:13.840
going to  that the mayor will still

02:51:13.920 --> 02:51:15.440
have to call out the names unless the

02:51:15.520 --> 02:51:16.879
vote is unanimous so it's not

02:51:16.959 --> 02:51:19.159
automatically recorded by govern

02:51:19.239 --> 02:51:21.079
the May will still have to go through

02:51:21.159 --> 02:51:23.559
that tedious thing going room

02:51:23.639 --> 02:51:26.680
calling the only real issue that I have

02:51:26.760 --> 02:51:29.520
with this you know when I look at it and

02:51:29.600 --> 02:51:32.520
try to sort of be pragmatic about it is

02:51:32.600 --> 02:51:35.840
item 4.4 and that is to sort of name

02:51:35.920 --> 02:51:38.360
each counselor who spoke to a motion or

02:51:38.440 --> 02:51:40.319
Amendment and I just think that that is

02:51:40.399 --> 02:51:43.479
maybe a little bit Superfluous I can't I

02:51:43.559 --> 02:51:45.559
can't imagine anything the fair said

02:51:45.639 --> 02:51:48.920
coming out of having the counselors name

02:51:49.000 --> 02:51:51.799
 recorded  if they spoke in that

02:51:51.879 --> 02:51:54.079
agenda item I just I don't see the point

02:51:54.159 --> 02:51:56.719
of it  but as a whole I I think this

02:51:56.799 --> 02:52:00.079
is a great no motion  and you know why

02:52:00.159 --> 02:52:01.879
shouldn't we sort of get ahead of the

02:52:01.959 --> 02:52:04.120
curve and and just Implement those

02:52:04.200 --> 02:52:08.120
things before on us anyway  you know

02:52:08.200 --> 02:52:09.840
I'm fully supported this and I think

02:52:09.920 --> 02:52:12.399
counil he has done great work with it

02:52:12.479 --> 02:52:16.639
okay CC thank you mayor why

02:52:16.719 --> 02:52:18.959
now why now no one's answered that

02:52:19.040 --> 02:52:20.360
question aside from oh we were going to

02:52:20.440 --> 02:52:22.600
run out of time so you missed your boat

02:52:22.680 --> 02:52:25.000
you're cramming this in before we hit

02:52:25.079 --> 02:52:27.399
caretaker as governance has said it's

02:52:27.479 --> 02:52:29.120
not a necessity we reviewed our

02:52:29.200 --> 02:52:30.840
governance rules last year we made

02:52:30.920 --> 02:52:33.280
significant changes to them that came to

02:52:33.360 --> 02:52:35.879
briefing on at least two if not three

02:52:35.959 --> 02:52:38.799
occasions for extensive discussion so

02:52:38.879 --> 02:52:40.399
what what's happening again I just feel

02:52:40.479 --> 02:52:42.879
like I'm just missing so many things the

02:52:42.959 --> 02:52:44.559
games that are being played around this

02:52:44.639 --> 02:52:47.040
table the nber I've never seen so many

02:52:47.120 --> 02:52:50.040
notices of motion brought this year than

02:52:50.120 --> 02:52:52.440
in all my years on Council in any given

02:52:52.520 --> 02:52:55.440
year and the lack of consultation on any

02:52:55.520 --> 02:52:58.239
of those notices of motion is really

02:52:58.319 --> 02:53:00.399
just perplexes me when councilors

02:53:00.479 --> 02:53:02.399
including myself have previously been

02:53:02.479 --> 02:53:04.280
accused of not being transparent not

02:53:04.360 --> 02:53:07.440
being inclusive unfounded allegations

02:53:07.520 --> 02:53:09.719
but here we are Time After Time three

02:53:09.799 --> 02:53:11.799
counselors who signed councel Bal and

02:53:11.879 --> 02:53:13.879
councelor Griffin had the option to sign

02:53:13.959 --> 02:53:15.600
I didn't have the option not sure if

02:53:15.680 --> 02:53:17.639
anyone else also did or didn't that

02:53:17.719 --> 02:53:19.920
doesn't sound very inclusive to me there

02:53:20.000 --> 02:53:23.600
is no urgency around this as councilor s

02:53:23.680 --> 02:53:26.159
said what operation sandon said we've

02:53:26.239 --> 02:53:28.159
adopted it we've put in our governance

02:53:28.239 --> 02:53:29.959
rules when we reviewed and updated them

02:53:30.040 --> 02:53:33.120
last year with governance team advice we

02:53:33.200 --> 02:53:35.280
made those changes so that block motions

02:53:35.360 --> 02:53:37.200
couldn't be used on planning

02:53:37.280 --> 02:53:38.879
applications and things where there are

02:53:38.959 --> 02:53:41.360
third parties involved so I'm just sick

02:53:41.440 --> 02:53:44.360
and tired of the lack of process and the

02:53:44.440 --> 02:53:46.840
hypocrisy around this table when all

02:53:46.920 --> 02:53:48.559
we've heard especially of of the

02:53:48.639 --> 02:53:50.479
previous council is that certain

02:53:50.559 --> 02:53:52.079
processes weren't followed people

02:53:52.159 --> 02:53:54.959
weren't transparent well here we are the

02:53:55.040 --> 02:53:57.600
absolute epitome of no transparency

02:53:57.680 --> 02:53:59.159
despite that word being thrown around

02:53:59.239 --> 02:54:01.600
this room on a nber of occasions and

02:54:01.680 --> 02:54:04.319
I'm absolutely sick of it to just say oh

02:54:04.399 --> 02:54:06.680
this isn't controversial it might not be

02:54:06.760 --> 02:54:08.639
it might be totally fine we didn't

02:54:08.719 --> 02:54:10.520
discuss it at briefing we don't have

02:54:10.600 --> 02:54:12.959
governance advice so I don't understand

02:54:13.040 --> 02:54:15.360
the urgency this should be for the next

02:54:15.440 --> 02:54:17.440
Council to decide how they want to run

02:54:17.520 --> 02:54:19.680
their meetings or or we we wait for the

02:54:19.760 --> 02:54:22.280
state government to do their 

02:54:22.360 --> 02:54:24.680
sector-wide code of conduct or whatever

02:54:24.760 --> 02:54:26.520
it is that they're going to do but

02:54:26.600 --> 02:54:29.920
overall this is just ridiculous I don't

02:54:30.000 --> 02:54:32.440
understand it and I urge councilors to

02:54:32.520 --> 02:54:34.840
start respecting process even even if

02:54:34.920 --> 02:54:36.079
it's written in the governance rules or

02:54:36.159 --> 02:54:38.360
not bring things to briefing do things

02:54:38.440 --> 02:54:40.479
the proper way and try and get everyone

02:54:40.559 --> 02:54:42.399
on board rather than being

02:54:42.479 --> 02:54:46.479
divisive thank

02:54:48.479 --> 02:54:52.360
would you like to sign up thanks

02:54:52.440 --> 02:54:54.680
 we don't know when the model

02:54:54.760 --> 02:54:56.360
governance rules will come from state

02:54:56.440 --> 02:54:59.239
government  and I think counselors

02:54:59.319 --> 02:55:00.760
various councilors have talked about how

02:55:00.840 --> 02:55:03.799
these are pretty straightforward and

02:55:03.879 --> 02:55:06.360
easy to implement changes to the

02:55:06.440 --> 02:55:09.760
government's rules  so I encourage

02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:14.239
people to vote in favor you guys okay

02:55:14.319 --> 02:55:16.840
put it to the vote all those in

02:55:16.920 --> 02:55:19.239
favor all

02:55:19.319 --> 02:55:23.079
against I'm abstaining

02:55:23.360 --> 02:55:26.600
you're abstaining as well

02:55:26.680 --> 02:55:30.680
okay all those in all those against none

02:55:30.760 --> 02:55:32.680
and abstaining we have Council lasarus

02:55:32.760 --> 02:55:33.520
and

02:55:33.600 --> 02:55:36.719
Council motion is carried thank you

02:55:36.799 --> 02:55:38.879
[Applause]

02:55:38.959 --> 02:55:41.840
councilors okay next up we have reports

02:55:41.920 --> 02:55:42.799
by

02:55:42.879 --> 02:55:46.159
Council councilors we have any reports

02:55:46.239 --> 02:55:49.120
[Applause]

02:55:49.200 --> 02:55:51.200
no no

02:55:51.280 --> 02:55:53.840
report aome okay let's move on to the

02:55:53.920 --> 02:55:56.479
next it which is questions to council

02:55:56.559 --> 02:55:59.079
officers thank you m two questions

02:55:59.159 --> 02:56:02.000
through you  in regard to the

02:56:02.079 --> 02:56:03.440
correspondence that I tabled earlier

02:56:03.520 --> 02:56:06.159
with regard to  dogs roaming around

02:56:06.239 --> 02:56:08.559
our streets and park off lead  how

02:56:08.639 --> 02:56:10.559
many infringements have been issued with

02:56:10.639 --> 02:56:13.639
regard to offleash dogs in Stonington

02:56:13.719 --> 02:56:16.559
over the past 12

02:56:16.639 --> 02:56:19.600
months there

02:56:19.680 --> 02:56:22.520
thank you and  what is Council doing

02:56:22.600 --> 02:56:24.680
to ensure the safety of children in

02:56:24.760 --> 02:56:27.319
playgrounds where dogs

02:56:27.399 --> 02:56:30.040
are thank you you may city of

02:56:30.120 --> 02:56:33.600
stonington's council prohibits dogs from

02:56:33.680 --> 02:56:35.559
children's playground areas so there

02:56:35.639 --> 02:56:38.959
shouldn't be the actual playground areas

02:56:39.040 --> 02:56:42.520
 Council officers Patrol areas andfor

02:56:42.600 --> 02:56:44.600
accordingly especially those areas we

02:56:44.680 --> 02:56:47.680
know where there are incidents and upon

02:56:47.760 --> 02:56:49.639
reing a complaint from a member of

02:56:49.719 --> 02:56:52.399
public will actually attend the area and

02:56:52.479 --> 02:56:55.520
speak to  people who are using the

02:56:55.600 --> 02:56:57.680
area to assertain if there's a

02:56:57.760 --> 02:57:01.079
particular issue and it necessary will

02:57:01.159 --> 02:57:03.120
infringe thank

02:57:03.200 --> 02:57:06.559
you you have

02:57:06.840 --> 02:57:10.280
question yes thank you  a couple of

02:57:10.360 --> 02:57:11.840
questions how does the council

02:57:11.920 --> 02:57:13.879
prioritize the planting of native plants

02:57:13.959 --> 02:57:15.920
on both its own assets and in the

02:57:16.000 --> 02:57:17.799
private realm and hous is evolved over

02:57:17.879 --> 02:57:20.680
the last four years or

02:57:20.760 --> 02:57:22.799
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02:57:22.879 --> 02:57:26.040
so  city ofing has a strong commitment

02:57:26.120 --> 02:57:29.159
to planting  n trees  and plants

02:57:29.239 --> 02:57:30.920
throughout this year part of its annual

02:57:31.000 --> 02:57:34.120
Park M Tree Management capital projects

02:57:34.200 --> 02:57:36.399
 on our own land in our Parks Gardens

02:57:36.479 --> 02:57:38.319
and reserves counts with plants

02:57:38.399 --> 02:57:40.799
approximately 25,000 Na and Indigenous

02:57:40.879 --> 02:57:43.440
plants and approximately 10,000 exic

02:57:43.520 --> 02:57:46.879
species annually  so  more than

02:57:46.959 --> 02:57:51.360
double   named to Exotic  how we

02:57:51.440 --> 02:57:54.239
prioritize that is we typically 

02:57:54.319 --> 02:57:56.200
continue the planting theme you need of

02:57:56.280 --> 02:57:58.600
the open spaces so where it's prly

02:57:58.680 --> 02:58:01.520
exotic we tend to plant exotic and

02:58:01.600 --> 02:58:05.479
likewise in Native areas particularly 

02:58:05.559 --> 02:58:08.639
in our Bushland areas along waterways 

02:58:08.719 --> 02:58:10.280
we are increasingly looking to

02:58:10.360 --> 02:58:11.760
incorporate

02:58:11.840 --> 02:58:15.440
PL Parks  and some recent new parks

02:58:15.520 --> 02:58:19.239
have had 50 to 100%  of plants  put

02:58:19.319 --> 02:58:20.639
in the ground that

02:58:20.719 --> 02:58:24.600
arees   in terms of not on our land

02:58:24.680 --> 02:58:28.920
  on private land  we run a whole

02:58:29.000 --> 02:58:31.680
lot of education programs to na plant 

02:58:31.760 --> 02:58:34.000
giveaways and obviously promoting our

02:58:34.079 --> 02:58:38.040
recently adopted majri PL

02:58:38.120 --> 02:58:42.600
policy right impressive nbers there 

02:58:42.680 --> 02:58:44.399
can I also have an update on the

02:58:44.479 --> 02:58:46.879
progress of responding to concerns about

02:58:46.959 --> 02:58:48.920
the Stonington pound

02:58:49.000 --> 02:58:50.920
currently been run by save dog scheme

02:58:51.000 --> 02:58:52.799
and does council have

02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:55.879
any  concerns at this

02:58:55.959 --> 02:59:00.040
time thank you there  Council received

02:59:00.120 --> 02:59:03.200
some allegations about the save do

02:59:03.280 --> 02:59:06.360
facility bya email back in May  and it

02:59:06.440 --> 02:59:08.159
goes without saying that we take any

02:59:08.239 --> 02:59:10.319
allegations of mist treatment of animals

02:59:10.399 --> 02:59:13.040
very seriously  and immediately

02:59:13.120 --> 02:59:16.559
referred the concerns to  external

02:59:16.639 --> 02:59:19.440
welfare agencies incl the rspca and

02:59:19.520 --> 02:59:22.200
agriculture Victoria council is

02:59:22.280 --> 02:59:25.920
confident  that the claims are not

02:59:26.000 --> 02:59:29.399
substantiated  a work for conducted in

02:59:29.479 --> 02:59:31.600
late May the facility resulted in an

02:59:31.680 --> 02:59:35.159
improvement notice for porc tests due to

02:59:35.239 --> 02:59:38.120
loud noise exposure so barking of dogs

02:59:38.200 --> 02:59:41.200
 and we've made improvements since

02:59:41.280 --> 02:59:43.920
then  we conduct an annual audit of

02:59:44.000 --> 02:59:46.879
the facility and which is comprehensive

02:59:46.959 --> 02:59:48.879
and it was satisfact this year there's

02:59:48.959 --> 02:59:51.360
only over a score of satisfactory or

02:59:51.440 --> 02:59:53.360
unsatisfactory that was completed in

02:59:53.440 --> 02:59:56.159
April  Council officers regularly

02:59:56.239 --> 02:59:59.000
conducting part visits at the pound when

02:59:59.079 --> 03:00:00.479
they are dropping off or collecting

03:00:00.559 --> 03:00:02.760
animals  and hold at least forn

03:00:02.840 --> 03:00:05.200
nightly meetings with pound management I

03:00:05.280 --> 03:00:07.159
should add to that a recent upgrade to

03:00:07.239 --> 03:00:09.840
the pound meant that all 40 panels were

03:00:09.920 --> 03:00:12.879
improved and that was completed by 30th

03:00:12.959 --> 03:00:16.360
of June before fling into TI maintenance

03:00:16.440 --> 03:00:18.440
issues are continually being addressed

03:00:18.520 --> 03:00:21.319
as they arised and there was  a root

03:00:21.399 --> 03:00:23.520
leak a new root leak as a result of the

03:00:23.600 --> 03:00:25.680
very heavy rain we've got last week

03:00:25.760 --> 03:00:28.159
which is being

03:00:28.239 --> 03:00:31.399
addressed questions any other

03:00:31.479 --> 03:00:35.200
questions  one of the key concerns at

03:00:35.280 --> 03:00:38.000
the moment appears to be  supply of

03:00:38.079 --> 03:00:40.120
illegal vaping products and supply of

03:00:40.200 --> 03:00:42.520
illegal cigarette tobacco products in

03:00:42.600 --> 03:00:45.280
general like cigarettes just wondering

03:00:45.360 --> 03:00:48.520
 if officers have seen 

03:00:48.600 --> 03:00:49.920
those trades that have cease

03:00:50.000 --> 03:00:51.319
particularly around the Chapel Street

03:00:51.399 --> 03:00:53.159
area and and where the policing is

03:00:53.239 --> 03:00:56.200
taking place and whether  in terms of

03:00:56.280 --> 03:00:57.680
health as well we're also providing

03:00:57.760 --> 03:00:59.360
support to those in our community that

03:00:59.440 --> 03:01:02.639
need it with this transition with sure

03:01:02.719 --> 03:01:05.600
 through  I I'll probably provide

03:01:05.680 --> 03:01:09.360
council with a more detailed  update

03:01:09.440 --> 03:01:12.239
but essentially our  Public Health

03:01:12.319 --> 03:01:15.120
offices are out every week at since

03:01:15.200 --> 03:01:16.840
since the dates are pass during

03:01:16.920 --> 03:01:21.319
education previous shops and  in terms

03:01:21.399 --> 03:01:23.520
of Engagement police and they

03:01:23.600 --> 03:01:25.559
coordinating  across the police so

03:01:25.639 --> 03:01:27.879
there's some shared approaches there in

03:01:27.959 --> 03:01:32.120
terms of  Health  of our residents

03:01:32.200 --> 03:01:34.040
and and those Community municipality we

03:01:34.120 --> 03:01:36.680
were successful with some funding from

03:01:36.760 --> 03:01:38.840
state government and it's  and we just

03:01:38.920 --> 03:01:41.559
had the office recruit  and that is

03:01:41.639 --> 03:01:43.239
around working with the long-term

03:01:43.319 --> 03:01:46.440
impacts on face on young people and we

03:01:46.520 --> 03:01:48.760
were we were part of

03:01:48.840 --> 03:01:51.280
in city council the

03:01:51.360 --> 03:01:54.040
only so a very good  it's going to be

03:01:54.120 --> 03:01:56.879
a really good deci project but the 

03:01:56.959 --> 03:01:58.079
issue of understanding what the

03:01:58.159 --> 03:02:00.520
legislation means who has Authority and

03:02:00.600 --> 03:02:04.639
what powers  is still some confusion

03:02:04.719 --> 03:02:06.559
there and we are

03:02:06.639 --> 03:02:09.040
advocacy

03:02:09.120 --> 03:02:11.920
thank question

03:02:12.000 --> 03:02:14.879
officers I might just go back to item 12

03:02:14.959 --> 03:02:17.920
we do have a great qu CH session held on

03:02:18.000 --> 03:02:23.239
15th of July 2024 can I have Mo to

03:02:23.319 --> 03:02:27.959
accept coun spot and second by Council

03:02:28.040 --> 03:02:33.360
any alterations or request no V in

03:02:33.440 --> 03:02:39.600
favor councilors we now go to  urgent

03:02:39.680 --> 03:02:41.280
business is there any urgent business to

03:02:41.360 --> 03:02:45.239
discuss tonight no okay we'll move on to

03:02:45.319 --> 03:02:48.760
General business

03:02:49.559 --> 03:02:52.559
 thank you  for you mayor  I want

03:02:52.639 --> 03:02:56.200
to speak tonight about  Finn M  a

03:02:56.280 --> 03:02:59.040
local resident of Molin who passed away

03:02:59.120 --> 03:03:02.120
suddenly just over a week ago  Finn

03:03:02.200 --> 03:03:03.520
was a member of council's current

03:03:03.600 --> 03:03:06.079
disability access committee he was only

03:03:06.159 --> 03:03:10.840
48 and I'm still in shock  Finn was an

03:03:10.920 --> 03:03:13.440
amazing person he was incredibly smart

03:03:13.520 --> 03:03:15.120
he had the most irreverent sense of

03:03:15.200 --> 03:03:17.799
hor and he was unfailingly kind he was

03:03:17.879 --> 03:03:20.000
a good friend to me and to many people I

03:03:20.079 --> 03:03:22.479
know I've seen on social media all the

03:03:22.559 --> 03:03:24.639
posts from friends all across Victoria

03:03:24.719 --> 03:03:25.760
both we've been

03:03:25.840 --> 03:03:29.920
stting across the state  his loss is

03:03:30.000 --> 03:03:32.440
huge to those of us who Mo

03:03:32.520 --> 03:03:36.399
him  Finn had been on Stonington City

03:03:36.479 --> 03:03:38.239
council's first disability access

03:03:38.319 --> 03:03:40.719
advisory committee  the very first one

03:03:40.799 --> 03:03:43.200
the council had  he'd been encouraged

03:03:43.280 --> 03:03:46.280
by Chris Gan and C alen two former

03:03:46.360 --> 03:03:48.559
mayors of Stonington to go estat

03:03:48.639 --> 03:03:50.799
committee he served on the committee for

03:03:50.879 --> 03:03:52.760
many years before taking a break and

03:03:52.840 --> 03:03:54.399
there very few other people who've done

03:03:54.479 --> 03:03:57.840
the same thing  he Finn rejoined the

03:03:57.920 --> 03:03:59.799
estac committee during this term of

03:03:59.879 --> 03:04:02.040
council and along with other members of

03:04:02.120 --> 03:04:04.520
the estac they've really help to push

03:04:04.600 --> 03:04:06.399
our Council to keep working on better

03:04:06.479 --> 03:04:08.799
access and inclusion for disabled people

03:04:08.879 --> 03:04:10.200
in our

03:04:10.280 --> 03:04:12.600
municipality Finn didn't just advocate

03:04:12.680 --> 03:04:14.920
for disabled people in Stonington he was

03:04:15.000 --> 03:04:16.920
an activist in the absolute best sense

03:04:17.000 --> 03:04:18.319
of that word

03:04:18.399 --> 03:04:20.280
and he was constantly working to help

03:04:20.360 --> 03:04:21.680
other disabled people throughout

03:04:21.760 --> 03:04:24.200
Victoria and was a sta advocate for our

03:04:24.280 --> 03:04:26.959
rights he did amazing work on no limits

03:04:27.040 --> 03:04:30.879
on Channel 31 and the boldness on prcr

03:04:30.959 --> 03:04:32.680
 he was heavily involved in disability

03:04:32.760 --> 03:04:35.559
Arts  through I think access  Arts

03:04:35.639 --> 03:04:39.360
Victoria and other  arts groups as

03:04:39.440 --> 03:04:42.360
well it's disability pride month right

03:04:42.440 --> 03:04:44.719
now and fin taught me a lot about the

03:04:44.799 --> 03:04:47.120
importance of disability pride and the

03:04:47.200 --> 03:04:49.719
importance of valuing people for who

03:04:49.799 --> 03:04:51.600
they are as individual persons for

03:04:51.680 --> 03:04:53.440
seeing who the people

03:04:53.520 --> 03:04:57.479
are  and not the disability while

03:04:57.559 --> 03:05:00.479
acknowledging that we can and some of us

03:05:00.559 --> 03:05:02.319
do have disability too that it is still

03:05:02.399 --> 03:05:04.239
a part of us it's not the whole Su of

03:05:04.319 --> 03:05:06.760
who we are but that it's nothing to be

03:05:06.840 --> 03:05:09.200
ashamed of that we're people too

03:05:09.280 --> 03:05:11.920
basically just as much as anybody else

03:05:12.000 --> 03:05:13.680
and most importantly he also showed the

03:05:13.760 --> 03:05:16.280
value of living a good life and I just

03:05:16.360 --> 03:05:18.319
wanted to acknowledge that today and his

03:05:18.399 --> 03:05:21.120
 contribution to our whole Community

03:05:21.200 --> 03:05:23.000
here in Stonington I'm immensely proud

03:05:23.079 --> 03:05:25.280
of him and what he was able to do in his

03:05:25.360 --> 03:05:28.760
life because of who he was  most

03:05:28.840 --> 03:05:32.000
importantly and what he did for

03:05:32.079 --> 03:05:35.079
others

03:05:35.680 --> 03:05:37.920
than oh if that could be included in a

03:05:38.000 --> 03:05:40.840
minutes I'll

03:05:40.920 --> 03:05:43.920
yeah yeah I'll give a Cy again thank you

03:05:44.000 --> 03:05:46.200
mayor that was a very beautiful tribute

03:05:46.280 --> 03:05:49.479
Council  look good news bad news I'll

03:05:49.559 --> 03:05:51.760
go to bad news first  over the last

03:05:51.840 --> 03:05:53.360
couple of weeks I've been hearing about

03:05:53.440 --> 03:05:57.239
home invasions in turak and armadel just

03:05:57.319 --> 03:05:59.360
to make people aware that this is

03:05:59.440 --> 03:06:01.120
happening some really disturbing ones

03:06:01.200 --> 03:06:03.280
that residents have told me about on the

03:06:03.360 --> 03:06:05.319
good news is I went to Glow Festival

03:06:05.399 --> 03:06:09.280
last night very pretty very beautiful

03:06:09.360 --> 03:06:11.719
very directed towards families and you

03:06:11.799 --> 03:06:13.600
know particularly young children I felt

03:06:13.680 --> 03:06:16.719
it was really sweet  I gather that

03:06:16.799 --> 03:06:18.680
there's very good attendance early on

03:06:18.760 --> 03:06:20.440
because it's very much a family thing

03:06:20.520 --> 03:06:22.280
but it Peters off a bit later so that

03:06:22.360 --> 03:06:24.959
might impact on ours in the future but I

03:06:25.040 --> 03:06:27.000
thought it was beautiful and it was

03:06:27.079 --> 03:06:30.079
packed it was impossible to get a park

03:06:30.159 --> 03:06:33.280
had to park a little

03:06:33.360 --> 03:06:35.920
illegally but I got there I only stay a

03:06:36.000 --> 03:06:38.680
short time because I realized that 

03:06:38.760 --> 03:06:40.319
but it was really beautiful so I just

03:06:40.399 --> 03:06:43.120
wanted to say you should you can admit

03:06:43.200 --> 03:06:45.879
these things it's okay  but miss har

03:06:45.959 --> 03:06:49.520
and your team really great

03:06:53.200 --> 03:06:56.600
no okay  we do not have any

03:06:56.680 --> 03:06:58.440
confidential business so we come to the

03:06:58.520 --> 03:07:00.799
close of our meeting I declare the

03:07:00.879 --> 03:07:02.840
meeting closed at

03:07:02.920 --> 03:07:07.920
108 thank you to everyone who in

03:07:08.879 --> 03:07:12.520
the on live

03:07:12.600 --> 03:07:16.760
CLE thank you