WEBVTT 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.296 Good evening 00:00:02.320 --> 00:00:04.056 and welcome to the City of Stonnington 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:05.976 Council meeting of Monday the 23rd of 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:09.000 February 2026. I'm council Mayor of the 00:00:09.280 --> 00:00:12.136 City of Stonnington. I'd like to begin 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:13.896 with the reading of the reconciliation 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:16.136 statement. We acknowledge we're meeting 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:17.736 on the traditional land of the Wurundjeri 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.296 Woi Wurrung and Bunurong Peoples of the East Kulin 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.456 Nations and pay our respects to their 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.415 Elders past and present. We extend our 00:00:25.439 --> 00:00:26.776 respect to all Aboriginal and 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.095 Torres Strait Islander peoples. We 00:00:29.119 --> 00:00:31.175 acknowledge their living connection to 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.496 country, relationship with the land and 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.496 all living things extending back tens of 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.336 thousands of years. 00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:39.016 Moving on to the reading of the 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:41.336 commitment. We are reminded that as 00:00:41.360 --> 00:00:43.496 councilors, we are bound by our oath of 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:45.496 office to undertake the duties of 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:47.176 councelor in the best interest of the 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.496 people of the City of Stonnington and 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:51.256 to faithfully and impartially carry out 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.015 the functions, powers, authorities and 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.656 discretions vested in us under the local 00:00:55.680 --> 00:00:58.296 government act and any other relevant 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.015 act. Before we introduce the councils 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:02.855 and officers, I would like to take this 00:01:02.879 --> 00:01:04.775 opportunity to remind our attendees of 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.775 the behavioral expectations at council 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.656 meetings. Members of the public are not 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.216 permitted to address the council and may 00:01:12.240 --> 00:01:14.296 only do so with the consent of the chair 00:01:14.320 --> 00:01:17.320 or by prior appointment arrangement. 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:19.415 Council provides an opportunity for 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.735 public engagement through questions from 00:01:21.759 --> 00:01:23.735 the community section of the meeting 00:01:23.759 --> 00:01:25.896 which requires pre-registration with our 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.135 governance team. Any member of the 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:29.656 public addressing the council must 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.735 extend due courtesy and respect to the 00:01:31.759 --> 00:01:34.759 council and the processes and must take 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.616 under which it operates and must take 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:38.696 direction from the chair whenever called 00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:41.496 on to do so. A member of the public in 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:43.256 attendance at a council meeting must not 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.336 disrupt the meeting. Any member of the 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:46.936 public who disrupts the meeting or fails 00:01:46.960 --> 00:01:49.095 to comply with the directive I've issued 00:01:49.119 --> 00:01:52.055 may be removed from the council meeting. 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:53.735 I will now introduce the councilors 00:01:53.759 --> 00:01:55.656 present around the table. From Toorak 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.055 Ward, councelor Tom Humphries, from Orrong 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.816 Ward and our Deputy Mayor councelor 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.135 Samantha Choudhury. From Wattletree Ward, 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.375 councelor Steve Stefanopoulos and from 00:02:04.399 --> 00:02:06.856 Tooronga Ward Councelor Jamie Bell. And 00:02:06.880 --> 00:02:08.455 from Malvern Valley Ward, we have 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.776 councelor Jami Klisaris, from Koma Ward, 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.256 Councelor Megan Hopper, and from South 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.976 Yarra Ward councelor Kate Hely. And our 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:17.496 executive manager of governance and 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.336 public affairs, Mr. Xavier Smerden, will 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:20.935 now introduce our staff. 00:02:20.959 --> 00:02:22.855 Thank you. through you, Mayor. Behind us 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.616 is Emily Stockdale, senior governance 00:02:24.640 --> 00:02:27.336 officer. To your far right is Matthew 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:28.935 Burke, manager, corporate strategy, 00:02:28.959 --> 00:02:31.016 performance and risk, and Danielle 00:02:31.040 --> 00:02:32.935 Mazzone director organization 00:02:32.959 --> 00:02:35.575 capability. To your far left is Kath 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:36.855 Harrod, the director of planning and 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.935 community. Simon Holloway, director, 00:02:38.959 --> 00:02:40.935 environment, infrastructure, and to your 00:02:40.959 --> 00:02:43.959 immediate right is Dale Dixon, the CEO. 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:45.896 Thank you we now move on to 00:02:45.920 --> 00:02:48.920 apologies and I'd like to ask that a 00:02:48.959 --> 00:02:50.935 leave of absence be granted to councelor 00:02:50.959 --> 00:02:52.696 Sally Davis who is unable to attend 00:02:52.720 --> 00:02:54.776 tonight so moved by councelor 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.176 Klisaris seconded by councelor Humphries. I 00:02:57.200 --> 00:02:58.616 will now approve the motion. All those 00:02:58.640 --> 00:03:00.376 in favor that leave be granted for 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:01.736 councelor Sally Davis. Thank you. That 00:03:01.760 --> 00:03:03.736 motion's carried unanimously. 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:05.816 Mayor I've got another apology for myself. 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:06.295 Thank you. 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.319 So this is on the 25th of May 2026 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:10.295 please. 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:13.319 Getting in early getting Okay. All 00:03:14.239 --> 00:03:17.239 right. Any other apologies for future 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.416 meetings? There being none I can I have 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:21.096 a mover and a second to grant length of 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.336 absence for council Stefanopoulos as of 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.360 the 25th of May 2026. Mover councelor 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.816 Choudhury second. Councelor Hopper. All 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.616 those in favor. We're unanimously 00:03:32.640 --> 00:03:34.456 supporting the less council 00:03:34.480 --> 00:03:36.456 Stefanopoulos. Thank you. Councilors, 00:03:36.480 --> 00:03:38.215 we now move to adoption and confirmation 00:03:38.239 --> 00:03:39.896 of the minutes of the previous meetings. 00:03:39.920 --> 00:03:42.295 And we have one set of minutes listed 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:43.896 for adoption tonight. And those the 00:03:43.920 --> 00:03:46.920 minutes from the 9th of February 2026. 00:03:49.040 --> 00:03:51.176 Can I move with an amendment with Oh, 00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:52.775 sorry. I should stand with some 00:03:52.799 --> 00:03:54.295 amendments that councilor Davis has 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:56.536 circulated around to all counselors I 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:58.616 think over the weekend I'm happy to 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:00.696 read it out but I'm happy to also 00:04:00.720 --> 00:04:01.896 Oh, there it is up on the screen. 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:02.376 On the screen. 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:04.616 How about that? Any officers do it? 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:05.736 I need a second to say 00:04:05.760 --> 00:04:06.935 Oh, sorry. Sorry. 00:04:06.959 --> 00:04:08.536 Thank you, Councilor Humphries so Councilor 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.016 Humphries second you. Was that the Was this 00:04:11.040 --> 00:04:11.816 the only amendment? 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.336 Only amendment. Yes. Everything else was 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:14.696 correct. Thank you to the officers 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:16.376 and secondary happy with that. Yep. 00:04:16.400 --> 00:04:18.455 Yep any commentary or any other 00:04:18.479 --> 00:04:20.775 additions or changes? Councilors, 00:04:20.799 --> 00:04:22.536 all those in favor of adopting the 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.016 minutes as amended. That's carried 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.576 unanimously. Thank you, councilors. 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.136 councilors, we now move to disclosure by 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.160 councilors of any conflict of interest. 00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:35.656 Thank you, councelor. 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.816 yes, I have a general conflict of 00:04:37.840 --> 00:04:40.840 interest in item item 8.4 on tonight's 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.735 agenda due to the close of me 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:45.175 association. 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.256 Thank you, council. That's noted and as 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:48.936 per the governor's rules, you'll exclude 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:51.336 yourself when the matter existed for 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.895 consideration. any other disclosures, 00:04:53.919 --> 00:04:56.136 councilors? we've received no 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:57.576 questions this evening from the 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.576 community for tonight's meeting. And now 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.600 we move to the main business of items to 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.096 deal with this evening. And the first 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.735 one is the VCAT quarterly report for the 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.376 fourth quarter of 2025 that council 00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:11.895 receives and notes the VCAT quarterly 00:05:11.919 --> 00:05:14.136 report. Can I have a mover and a second 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:15.656 please? 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.216 Councilor Hopper second council second 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.015 please council. 00:05:19.039 --> 00:05:21.735 this is a procedural report in order 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:23.895 to let the community know how we 00:05:23.919 --> 00:05:26.536 performed in matters before VCAT um over 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.696 the most recent quarter so in the 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.656 fourth quarter of 2025 we had 15 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.136 cases before VCAT and in the 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.936 majority we either had outright 00:05:36.960 --> 00:05:39.735 wins or matters that were struck as 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.816 misconceived or positions of consent 00:05:41.840 --> 00:05:43.735 were reached and so in the majority we 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:45.976 had positive outcomes of this. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:47.976 Thank you councelor Stefanopoulos. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.000 Any other comments councilors? 00:05:51.440 --> 00:05:53.576 All right those councilors are now put 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.536 to the vote. All those in favor that 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.376 motion is carried unanimously. 00:05:58.400 --> 00:06:00.696 Councilors we now move to 8.2 instrument 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:02.696 of appointment and authorization for 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:04.376 City under the City of planning. 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:05.015 So moved. 00:06:05.039 --> 00:06:08.039 Thank you councelor Stefanopoulosanop. Second 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.936 council. 00:06:10.960 --> 00:06:11.895 Councelor Stefanopoulos. 00:06:11.919 --> 00:06:12.856 Nothing to say madam Mayor. 00:06:12.880 --> 00:06:14.295 Self-explanatory. 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.895 Councilor 00:06:15.919 --> 00:06:18.919 report may all right. any other 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:21.416 commentary on this matter? Right. The 00:06:21.440 --> 00:06:23.336 matter will now be put. All those in 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:24.856 favor 00:06:24.880 --> 00:06:26.696 that matter is carried unanimously. I 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:28.295 know it was an administrative matter. 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.696 Councilors, we now move to December 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.720 Q2 or item 8.3 December Q2 FY26 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:36.536 performance report. Do I have a mover 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.560 and a second? 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:42.536 So moved. 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.216 All right. 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.136 We all asleep tonight. Council. Sorry. 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:47.976 Councilor Choudhury second. 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:48.295 Yeah. 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:48.856 Thank you. 00:06:48.880 --> 00:06:49.336 Sorry. 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:50.856 Councelor Stefanopoulos. 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:52.536 thanks Mayor. this is just a 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.936 quarterly report an update on works 00:06:54.960 --> 00:06:57.416 that the CEO is championing through 00:06:57.440 --> 00:07:00.056 council which is great. Um there are 00:07:00.080 --> 00:07:01.496 some good outcomes in this and some 00:07:01.520 --> 00:07:04.056 great savings and I um commend the 00:07:04.080 --> 00:07:07.080 officers for doing a diligent task in um 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.376 processing our budget as director and um 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:12.216 I look forward to further additional 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.615 savings in the coming few quarters. Mr. 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.216 CEO, 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.936 thank you councelor Stefanopoulos. Councelor J. 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:20.776 Nothing further to add. Thank you. Any 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.800 other speakers to the motion? Councils. 00:07:24.880 --> 00:07:27.880 Thank you, ma'am Stonnington isn't a 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.136 rich City and the financial report 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.455 should be a concern to most residents. 00:07:32.479 --> 00:07:34.216 What is buried in the detail is an 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.240 underlying deficit of 6, the negative 00:07:37.280 --> 00:07:39.336 projected annual cash flow at table 8, 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.575 and the worsening negative unrestricted 00:07:41.599 --> 00:07:44.216 cash balance at table 9. 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.136 The true headline is Stonington is going 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.376 backwards in real terms. Underlying 00:07:48.400 --> 00:07:50.376 deficit and widening negative 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:52.136 unrestricted cash balance are symptoms 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.160 of fiscal decline. 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.160 This is Stonnington's financial position. 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:05.735 The last council spent every red cent 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.136 that they got their hands on. The cash 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.615 reserves were depleted in their entirety 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:12.455 and debt was maxed out by the previous 00:08:12.479 --> 00:08:14.615 council. This pathway by the previous 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.639 council placed on it on was deliberate. 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.536 As outlined in the 28th November 2022 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.615 CFO financial report, negative 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.295 unrestricted cash balances mean that the 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:25.895 council would not be able to meet all of 00:08:25.919 --> 00:08:28.455 its commitments if they were due. 00:08:28.479 --> 00:08:31.479 Further, in 14 June 2022, 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:34.056 the budget pack on risk profile states 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:35.736 council will step outside of its target 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:38.056 range in the short term. 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:39.336 That is the previous council 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:40.935 deliberately placed us on this 00:08:40.959 --> 00:08:43.959 trajectory. 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:45.815 This then continued into the next 00:08:45.839 --> 00:08:48.696 financial year on the 26th June 2023 the 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.536 budget pack to achieve this level of 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:51.736 capital expenditure. 00:08:51.760 --> 00:08:52.935 Humpers I'm just going to interrupt you 00:08:52.959 --> 00:08:54.296 there. You are actually breaching the 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:55.976 government's rules. So can I ask you to 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.896 please put the plard down because you're 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:00.216 not allowed to bring plards into council 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:01.336 chamber. 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.896 that's in relation to gallery me. No 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:06.296 packards or posters may be displayed in 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:07.976 the chamber 70.1. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.456 councelor Stefanopoulosanos also used a prop 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:11.976 on the 14th of June. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.656 I'm making a ruling. I've just made that 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:14.935 ruling in accordance with the 00:09:14.959 --> 00:09:16.616 government's rules. I've given you an 00:09:16.640 --> 00:09:18.056 opportunity to present it. You can 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:19.576 continue to speak to the item. Thank 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.600 you. 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.296 To achieve this level of capital works 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.856 and investment in 2023 24 council has 00:09:28.880 --> 00:09:30.696 sought several sources of funding other 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.935 than rates including borrowings, grant 00:09:32.959 --> 00:09:34.456 funding and transfers from internal 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.776 reserves. 00:09:36.800 --> 00:09:39.096 It's a fallacy that co caused this mess. 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.176 The last lockdown ended on the 21st of 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:44.200 October 2021 and the spending rampage 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.255 didn't continue didn't start sorry until 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:48.776 2022. 00:09:48.800 --> 00:09:50.776 Nothing about combating an infectious 00:09:50.800 --> 00:09:52.776 airborne virus requires building a $50 00:09:52.800 --> 00:09:55.416 million sports stadium. The previous 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:56.856 council deliberately increased 00:09:56.880 --> 00:09:58.856 Stonington's risk profile, max out its 00:09:58.880 --> 00:10:00.136 debt ceiling, and drain the cash 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:02.456 reserves, which should have paid been 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.456 saved for parks, playgrounds, and the 13 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:05.976 pavilions that currently need upgrading 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.136 in Stonnington. 00:10:08.160 --> 00:10:10.056 The previous council also left us with a 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.416 structural deficit, meaning we're 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.055 bleeding cash. This is evident in our 00:10:14.079 --> 00:10:16.536 underlying deficit and making tinkers 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:18.616 around the edges will be ineffective in 00:10:18.640 --> 00:10:20.776 restoring this balance. The only way for 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:22.776 this council to fix the mess of the last 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:25.800 council is to cut recurrent expenditure. 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:28.856 We simply spend too much cash every 00:10:28.880 --> 00:10:31.176 year. 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.055 Extension of time 00:10:34.079 --> 00:10:35.736 by councelor. 00:10:35.760 --> 00:10:37.495 This is what councilors need to focus on 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.815 in assessing the upcoming budget. I 00:10:39.839 --> 00:10:41.815 implore all of you to take cost cutting 00:10:41.839 --> 00:10:43.815 seriously before Stonington runs out of 00:10:43.839 --> 00:10:46.839 money. 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.216 Um, Mr. Dixon, would you like to just 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:51.336 make some comments? 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.495 Um, to your Mayor, I think I mean that's 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.519 a statement of an individual. Um, we 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.440 we're we're on the on the path to 00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:02.856 considering the next draft budget and we 00:11:02.880 --> 00:11:04.935 have a financial road map as you know. 00:11:04.959 --> 00:11:06.696 there are differing views around the 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.255 table as to the council's position 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.279 financially and otherwise. Um I'm 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.320 comfortable that we as a as a council 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.360 are managing our position responsibly. 00:11:18.640 --> 00:11:20.296 Um there are there are different views 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.776 as I've said about historical decisions 00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:24.696 and and circumstances. They are 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.096 historical. What's important now is the 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.416 future and obviously um I think we're 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.736 managing the current year's budget 00:11:31.760 --> 00:11:34.136 effectively and diligently as we need to 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:36.696 do. Um what will be important is looking 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.576 forward looking at the the the strategic 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.600 and short-term decisions that will 00:11:42.640 --> 00:11:44.055 make up the next budget and the next 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:45.896 financial plan. And there is as you know 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:48.456 a very important date coming that is 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.776 the 21st of March at at which time the 00:11:50.800 --> 00:11:52.935 council will be considering some quite 00:11:52.959 --> 00:11:55.576 significant financial and non-financial 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.656 decision. So I'm pretty comfortable 00:11:57.680 --> 00:11:59.416 organizationally and politically we are 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.440 on a pathway to managing the council 00:12:02.959 --> 00:12:05.096 council's affairs responsibly and it's 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.120 not for me to debate I guess the the 00:12:08.160 --> 00:12:09.976 the political commentary of individual 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.000 councils but um I'm as I said I'm quite 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.296 confident we understand our 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.456 responsibilities and we understand what 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.296 we need to do going forward. 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.055 Thank you. Thank you Mr. Dixon. Any 00:12:20.079 --> 00:12:23.079 other speakers to the motion before us? 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:25.176 Council Stefanopoulosen, would you like to 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:25.656 respond? 00:12:25.680 --> 00:12:27.255 Thank you, Mayor. I find it fascinating 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.736 when we have um stones being held across 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:32.456 the table um against previous Mayors. 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.136 It's fascinating in this in this 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:36.216 context, in this climate and this room. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.240 Um but I think the CEO clearly um 00:12:39.839 --> 00:12:42.839 outlined what exactly we were doing and 00:12:42.880 --> 00:12:44.536 that all councils around this table 00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:47.176 actually supported the budget and I hope 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:48.615 that all councils will support the 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.136 report that's come through that actually 00:12:50.160 --> 00:12:53.096 outlines exactly what we've been doing. 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.016 Thank you councelor Stefanopoulos. I'll now put 00:12:55.040 --> 00:12:58.040 it to the vote. All those in favor 00:12:58.160 --> 00:12:59.336 noting that motion is carried 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.096 unanimously. Thank you councilors. We 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.656 now move to 8.4. There may be a motion 00:13:03.680 --> 00:13:05.336 and council hopper you declared conflict 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.016 a general conflict. I'll just get you to 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:09.416 repeat it. Sorry. Thank you. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.375 Um it's a general conflict due to close 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:13.336 assessation. 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:14.935 Thank you councelor Hopp. Um we 00:13:14.959 --> 00:13:16.856 hopefully won't be too long and get you 00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:18.536 when we finished the deciding. Thank 00:13:18.560 --> 00:13:21.560 you. 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:32.040 Thanks. 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.279 Close the door. 00:13:42.800 --> 00:13:45.800 Thank you. All right. Jim, do we have a 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.776 mover for the officer recommendation 00:13:48.800 --> 00:13:51.800 shown on the screen for our MA motion? 00:13:57.760 --> 00:13:59.016 Council Chowdery 00:13:59.040 --> 00:13:59.896 second. 00:13:59.920 --> 00:14:02.920 Council Stefanopoulos. Council. Um so 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.519 this is um Stonington um advising 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:11.880 MAB state council um about the um 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.255 managing the illicit tobacco in 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.279 Victoria. So, um, we're just advocating 00:14:18.880 --> 00:14:21.416 to meet with the minister, , to 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.216 campaign for enhanced powers, um, 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.240 primarily because Chapel Street and our, 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.519 um, activity center precinct is, um, a 00:14:30.880 --> 00:14:33.880 hot spot for a lot of elicit tobacco, 00:14:33.920 --> 00:14:36.536 um, and it's had, um, a huge sort of 00:14:36.560 --> 00:14:39.416 negative impact on safety, 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.336 um, criminal activity in our area. So, 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.976 it's an important um thing for us to be 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.216 um submitting as a motion at state 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.240 council. Um so, yeah, we um this is um 00:14:50.800 --> 00:14:53.016 our position to advocate strongly for 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:55.175 the safety of our community um and 00:14:55.199 --> 00:14:58.199 ensure that um ecigarettes, vaping 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.175 products and the like um try to combat 00:15:01.199 --> 00:15:03.255 the illegal sale of this. 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:04.776 Thank you, Council Ch. 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:05.736 Nothing to say. Thank you. 00:15:05.760 --> 00:15:07.976 Other speakers, council, sorry, 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:11.000 councelor Hill and Council H. Um 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:13.656 this is a fantastic motion and 00:15:13.680 --> 00:15:15.336 definitely what we need to be advocating 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.096 for. I just wanted to bring forth 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.576 another perspective on this and um 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.976 talking to the survival of our local 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.776 traders. So I've heard from business 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:26.456 owners in my world that they're unable 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.776 to for instance secure insurance for 00:15:28.800 --> 00:15:30.696 their premises literally because they're 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.456 just next door to an elicit tobacco 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.175 shop. Um and that's an insane situation. 00:15:35.199 --> 00:15:36.856 you've got legitimate hardworking 00:15:36.880 --> 00:15:38.536 traders that have been penalized for a 00:15:38.560 --> 00:15:40.856 crisis that they can create. Um, and 00:15:40.880 --> 00:15:43.736 this scheme that the state set up is 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:46.216 good in principle, but it's not really 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:47.976 working for us in the way that's been 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.776 set up so far. So, shops are being made 00:15:50.800 --> 00:15:52.696 in the morning. They can be restocked 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.456 with illegal products by the afternoon 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.536 because we don't have any immediate um 00:15:56.560 --> 00:15:59.255 shutdown powers. And Stonington has one 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.016 of the highest vaping rates in the 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:03.175 state, which was interesting to um read 00:16:03.199 --> 00:16:05.096 about in the report. And this again 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.935 fuels this black market that creates 00:16:06.959 --> 00:16:09.815 crime and violence on our doorstep. So 00:16:09.839 --> 00:16:12.696 um by taking this motion to MAV and I 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:14.935 assume that I can't see any reason why 00:16:14.959 --> 00:16:16.615 all of the councils wouldn't wouldn't 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.696 support this. We are demanding that 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.375 state government provide the police and 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:21.976 inspectors with the teeth that they 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.935 really need including immediate store 00:16:24.959 --> 00:16:27.735 closures to protect our community, our 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.735 health, but also to ensure that our 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.976 activities safe centers remain safe and 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.976 vibrant places for everyone. And and 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.615 again thinking about our traders, they 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.856 should be given the best chance to be 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:41.096 trading in strips they can be proud of 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.016 and the sort of behavior and these sorts 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:45.656 of retailers are really leading us down. 00:16:45.680 --> 00:16:47.976 Yeah. No, thank you council council. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.656 thank you may I would like to move an 00:16:49.680 --> 00:16:50.536 amendment please. 00:16:50.560 --> 00:16:52.375 Yep. 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:54.296 that it adds two additional points 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.935 three and four which are directs the CEO 00:16:56.959 --> 00:16:58.935 or their delegate to prepare a report to 00:16:58.959 --> 00:17:01.959 council by March 23 outlining any 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.935 planning permit bylaws, laws, rules or 00:17:04.959 --> 00:17:06.696 conditions which can be activated by the 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.696 council to close elicit tobacco stores 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.336 from operating in Stonnington 00:17:11.360 --> 00:17:13.496 and four directs the CEO or the delegate 00:17:13.520 --> 00:17:15.256 to make a submission to the federal 00:17:15.280 --> 00:17:17.655 parliament's inquiry into elicit tobacco 00:17:17.679 --> 00:17:20.679 crisis in Australia. All 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.799 right. So, um, that's been moved by 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:25.175 Nash. 00:17:25.199 --> 00:17:26.376 Yep. 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.736 You have a question. So, we don't have a 00:17:27.760 --> 00:17:29.256 second. 00:17:29.280 --> 00:17:31.416 Yeah, I need a second. I have a second. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.256 So, councelor Bell second. So, your 00:17:33.280 --> 00:17:36.280 question, councelor Hilly. Um so to 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.416 officers just regarding the 23rd of 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.655 March um time as to whether or not 00:17:41.679 --> 00:17:44.296 that's a feasible um thing and also I 00:17:44.320 --> 00:17:46.775 suppose consideration for um council 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.799 Humphries's that the wording is to 00:17:51.360 --> 00:17:53.176 um that can be activated by council to 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.496 close elicit tobacco stores. It feels so 00:17:55.520 --> 00:17:57.976 specific. Maybe it could be more general 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.216 like to 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:01.336 interfere 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:04.360 to I can't think of the English but to 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:06.535 close or interfere. 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.936 Yeah. 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.816 It can be temporary or 00:18:11.840 --> 00:18:12.056 that's a 00:18:12.080 --> 00:18:14.136 distinction. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's true. 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.696 Um and then can you please tell me what 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.856 the federal parliament require into 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.775 legal tobacco crisis in Australia is 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:23.799 because I'm not aware of it. So um 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:25.736 I would like to know but that might be 00:18:25.760 --> 00:18:27.976 part of the speech. So I suppose the 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.655 first thing is the time is 00:18:29.679 --> 00:18:30.856 we just moved it. 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.336 Yeah. 00:18:31.360 --> 00:18:33.576 Um all right so we've got a second. So 00:18:33.600 --> 00:18:36.216 so the question to answer then from c 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.775 officers is the 23rd of March. Is that 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.616 date feasible? 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.015 Just want to check on that first. Okay. 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:43.496 Okay. 00:18:43.520 --> 00:18:45.655 Through. Yes. So 00:18:45.679 --> 00:18:46.136 thank you. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:47.576 All right. Thank you councelor Hill. Are 00:18:47.600 --> 00:18:49.816 there any other questions before I go to 00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:52.840 the mover of the amendment? council. 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:53.576 , 00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:54.856 you think that, Jack? 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:56.775 Are we going to have you? 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:58.376 Yeah, that's the outline. No, that's the 00:18:58.400 --> 00:18:59.256 outline of the motion. 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:00.775 That's your Are you going to speak to 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:01.256 it? 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:02.136 Yes, I'm going to speak to it. 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.655 I'm asking you now to speak to it. 00:19:03.679 --> 00:19:05.256 Sorry. Are you saying that you're not 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:06.775 going to put it to the mover in the 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.775 second or are you going to go straight? 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.456 There's an amendment. 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:13.096 So, it was adopted as an amendment. 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:15.576 I'm happy to make my contri. 00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:17.976 So unless unless you're happy to 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:19.336 incorporate it. 00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:21.895 Um council sits down for a second. I can 00:19:21.919 --> 00:19:22.376 speak. 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.056 Yeah. Thank you J. So 00:19:24.080 --> 00:19:25.736 thanks m I I generally didn't have a 00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:27.256 problem with this. I'm I'm the second. I 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:28.456 don't know what the move is thinking but 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.936 my issue is that I have the word or 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.960 interfere with I find it very draconian 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:35.816 and unacceptable. Hence why if the 00:19:35.840 --> 00:19:37.816 motion is 00:19:37.840 --> 00:19:40.696 it should be not not like that. Um, so 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:42.775 may I will not I as a second will not be 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:44.376 accepting it as it appears up there 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:47.176 unless it's changed. Let's cut to change 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:47.816 to 00:19:47.840 --> 00:19:48.856 address 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:49.496 address. 00:19:49.520 --> 00:19:49.816 Yeah, 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:51.736 to address this I think. Yeah, just 00:19:51.760 --> 00:19:54.136 instead of close to address. Take out 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.056 the word close to address or is the 00:19:56.080 --> 00:19:57.576 tobacco stores from operating? 00:19:57.600 --> 00:20:00.600 Well, it's close and prevent 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:01.655 grammatically. 00:20:01.679 --> 00:20:04.296 Yeah. Okay. To close. Would you have be 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:05.895 happy with that as a movement? So to 00:20:05.919 --> 00:20:07.976 close and prevent. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:08.616 I think that's 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.376 I'm happy. Yeah. All right. So, thank 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.936 you. You're happy with that amendment. 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.535 All right. Well, they're prepared to 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.296 accept those and treat it as amendment, 00:20:16.320 --> 00:20:19.015 but given you're um having to accept it 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:20.856 being moved in the second now, would you 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:22.856 like to speak to the holistic motion? 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:24.456 Yes. Now that we've sorted that out, 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.056 thank you. 00:20:26.080 --> 00:20:27.336 I'm deeply concerned about the 00:20:27.360 --> 00:20:28.936 escalating crisis that is elicit 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:31.576 tobacco, especially the impacts on our 00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:34.216 City. Pan, one of Melbourne's main 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.816 hotspots, 00:20:35.840 --> 00:20:37.336 one of Melbourne's main hotspots for 00:20:37.360 --> 00:20:39.416 this religious trade, is profoundly 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:41.336 suffering. 00:20:41.360 --> 00:20:43.336 We've seen new illegal retailers spring 00:20:43.360 --> 00:20:46.056 up fueling organized crime. Friends of 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:48.456 mine have sent me articles from the 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.480 New York Times where unfortunately piran 00:20:51.760 --> 00:20:53.416 is the photo that's displayed in those 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.056 articles. So pan has become the global 00:20:56.080 --> 00:20:58.135 face of illegal tobacco in Australia and 00:20:58.159 --> 00:21:00.456 I find that deeply concerning that our 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.416 City has such a nefarious tag. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.496 Up to 60% of all tobacco products 00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:07.496 currently consumed in Australia are 00:21:07.520 --> 00:21:09.336 illicit. 00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:12.056 96% of vapes are illegal and the tax 00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:13.736 revenue has been diverted to organized 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:16.456 crime. This is a multi-billion dollar 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.256 industry compending in size with the big 00:21:19.280 --> 00:21:21.655 four. The state government's response to 00:21:21.679 --> 00:21:23.336 elicit tobacco has been a wet letter 00:21:23.360 --> 00:21:25.655 sleeve. The state government's plan has 00:21:25.679 --> 00:21:28.216 not assumed illegal tobaconists will 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:29.976 simply get a license and does not 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.616 activate genuine closure powers which 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:35.640 simply fails all Victorians. 00:21:36.320 --> 00:21:38.056 Asking organized crime to follow the law 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:40.135 has never worked in human history. 00:21:40.159 --> 00:21:41.976 Assuming Victoria will be a breakthrough 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.456 of this is nothing short of lunacy. 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:46.535 We've witnessed over 200 fire bombings 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.696 across Australia with some occurring on 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.176 Chapel Street, one of the Chapel Street 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:54.056 precinct. As a City, we've received no 00:21:54.080 --> 00:21:55.816 support from the state or federal 00:21:55.840 --> 00:21:57.895 governments, and making a submission to 00:21:57.919 --> 00:21:59.736 the federal inquiry is the first step in 00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:01.176 Stonington taking action for its 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.200 residents. But we need more. 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:06.535 The other part of this amendment does 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.456 just that. Can Stonington be a leader 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.856 and do more in this space? 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.496 Following the Bondi terrorist attack, 00:22:13.520 --> 00:22:15.256 Canterbury Council was the one that 00:22:15.280 --> 00:22:17.976 actually shut down the Al Medina Center 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.216 for an illegal operation. It wasn't 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.056 Azio. It wasn't the federal government. 00:22:22.080 --> 00:22:24.296 It was the council. 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:25.976 Why can't Stonington do the same with 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.000 elicit tobacco? 00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:30.696 The state and federal governments have 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:32.376 done nothing material to combat elicit 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.775 tobacco. Stonington must enter the race 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.336 and make our residents safe. Even if 00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:39.336 it's an alapone style takedown, even 00:22:39.360 --> 00:22:42.216 with the smallest infraction, 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.135 is still a violation of the law. And if 00:22:44.159 --> 00:22:45.416 that helps get the scourge off our 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.440 streets, good. We must do more. I urge 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:50.456 our state and federal governments to 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.616 take elicit tobacco seriously and stop 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.416 sitting on their hands. Thank you, m. 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.296 Thank you. Other speakers, council bill. 00:22:58.320 --> 00:23:00.216 Thank you, Mayor. Um, and I think we're 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.240 all in furious agreement that there is a 00:23:03.280 --> 00:23:05.816 lot of work to be done in addressing 00:23:05.840 --> 00:23:07.976 illegal illegal tobacco shots in 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.576 Melbourne and Australia more broadly. 00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:11.576 But I think it's fair to say that 00:23:11.600 --> 00:23:14.600 Melbourne unfortunately owns the um 00:23:15.360 --> 00:23:17.336 reputation as being by far the most 00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:19.496 serious in the country. And as Council 00:23:19.520 --> 00:23:21.256 Humphries has pointed out, a fair portion 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:23.336 of that is occurring in our own 00:23:23.360 --> 00:23:26.135 municipality, which is quite shameful. 00:23:26.159 --> 00:23:29.159 and I think it speaks obviously more 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.736 broadly to the state and federal 00:23:31.760 --> 00:23:33.096 governments and their failings at 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:34.856 addressing such a significant issue that 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.576 is increasing year on year. And it's 00:23:37.600 --> 00:23:39.895 incredible to believe as we look around 00:23:39.919 --> 00:23:41.655 the world that you know we even of 00:23:41.679 --> 00:23:44.679 global standards seem to be leading the 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.416 charge with the increased activity 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.440 around illegal illegal tobacco shops 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:52.616 which as we know are at the center of a 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.176 violent and escalating turf war between 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:56.775 organized crime syndicates which has 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:58.856 flowing flowing effects right throughout 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.576 the community including the supply chain 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:03.736 of stolen cars that are required to 00:24:03.760 --> 00:24:06.535 actually operate these establishments. 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:07.895 And it was interesting to read in the 00:24:07.919 --> 00:24:10.919 paper the other day that as a connected 00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:13.655 point of illegal tobacco shops in 00:24:13.679 --> 00:24:16.535 Melbourne, there are upward of 33,000 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.559 cars stolen in Victoria each year. Many 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.480 of which roughly 20% are unreovered. 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.816 Most of those 6,000 are going overseas, 00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:30.840 shipped off to Dubai, South Asia, and 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.856 Africa. And it was interesting to note 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.096 that one of our 00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:39.255 fellow Stonington residents was 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.279 recently holidaying in Dubai 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:45.336 after his car having been stolen only a 00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:48.360 couple of weeks prior and was 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.775 quite disturbed by the fact that he just 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:52.376 saw his car. That's right. He couldn't 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.096 do anything. That's crazy. 00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:57.895 And so brazen was the process that his 00:24:57.919 --> 00:24:59.416 existing number plates were still on 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.440 that car. So I mean it it's 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.856 It's a a laughable matter and what is an 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.880 increasingly serious, very serious and 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.616 continuing failing of this government. 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.176 And I think this original motion was 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:15.176 adequate enough. I think it goes a long 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.015 way to addressing, at least from our 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.176 position, what we can do to address the 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.200 problem, but I think that the next two 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.296 points add a little bit more rigor 00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:26.775 around it. And I certainly support this 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.376 motion as it currently stands with the 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:29.976 amendments. 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.416 Thank you, Councelor Bell. Very well 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.015 spoken. And I remember reading about 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:34.775 that and there's nothing he could do 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:35.416 about it. 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:36.856 No, he just carried on with his 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.135 business. Would you do it? 00:25:38.159 --> 00:25:40.376 Yeah. Which is just unbelievable when 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.775 you when you think about it and and 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:44.535 ironic you go overseas and there's 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.775 stolen car. It's just 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.799 um any other speakers to the motion? 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:53.240 No. Um firstly um thank you um to 00:25:53.760 --> 00:25:56.135 council for that amendment um which as I 00:25:56.159 --> 00:25:58.135 think we've you've alluded that this 00:25:58.159 --> 00:26:00.216 we're all aligned with this. I do 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:01.976 acknowledge Cat Par and the team, our 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.496 local law team, and the great work that 00:26:03.520 --> 00:26:06.520 they do with Bitco 00:26:07.919 --> 00:26:10.919 tobacco from these illegal premises. Um, 00:26:11.120 --> 00:26:13.576 and then much to our frustration, the 00:26:13.600 --> 00:26:14.775 next day they're back again. They're 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.535 easy to pick. All they've got is a 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.856 bottle of soft drink and a few candy 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.416 bars and um, and the rest, you know. And 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.056 I used to wonder in my ny before it 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:26.135 became a known industry, how did they 00:26:26.159 --> 00:26:28.296 pay the rent in Chapel Street? And soon 00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:30.936 he worked out how. Um, and I just 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.015 remember reading some stats of late that 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.856 of all the shipping containers that come 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.096 into the country full of this illegal 00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:40.120 tobacco, even if one gets through out of 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.736 out of 20, it still makes it an extreme. 00:26:43.760 --> 00:26:46.616 It's still continu to be a 3 billion 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:48.936 industry. And when you look at that, you 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.255 think what chance do our law enforcement 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.416 and our council of officers have to 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.440 to stop this industry? Um so anything 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.655 that we can do um you know will 00:26:59.679 --> 00:27:02.056 hopefully make a difference and um and 00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:03.576 just looking at the rules I know in 00:27:03.600 --> 00:27:05.496 Adelaide if you get caught working in 00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:08.520 one of these premises um you know I 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.015 was told that the the individual 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.015 actually gets fined a significant amount 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:14.616 of money. So that's a great deterrent to 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.015 stop people actually working there. 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.895 and um opportune timing in that this 00:27:19.919 --> 00:27:22.775 Friday there is actually a safety forum 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.799 with the Mi for 3 hours um where the CEO 00:27:26.320 --> 00:27:27.655 and I will be attending. We have a 00:27:27.679 --> 00:27:30.456 police commissioner presenting to us um 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.856 and asking to hear from us about the big 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.096 issues and this was clearly on our list 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:37.655 amongst other um negative behaviors 00:27:37.679 --> 00:27:39.655 we're seeing within the City both um at 00:27:39.679 --> 00:27:41.736 the western end and at the eastern end. 00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:44.135 Um so um it's good that we've got this 00:27:44.159 --> 00:27:46.056 and I previously councelor Humphries and I 00:27:46.080 --> 00:27:48.216 last year met with the um Andy Carbines 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:50.456 the police minister and raised this very 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.456 issue with him and um he referred us to 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.375 another minister which we're still 00:27:54.399 --> 00:27:56.535 trying to get a meeting with um to to 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.775 discuss this very issue and as councelor 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:00.696 Hilly said I mean we've got 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.176 wellestablished businesses that end up 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.696 with one of these next door to them 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.936 which affects their livelihood and they 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.816 can't get insurance. So um it is a real 00:28:09.840 --> 00:28:12.056 blight on not just our community but 00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:15.080 also on our businesses. So um I now will 00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:17.736 um ask councelor Chhatty. Did you want 00:28:17.760 --> 00:28:18.056 to 00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:19.496 No, it was Healey who um 00:28:19.520 --> 00:28:21.976 No, no, it was yourself. Councelor Hilly 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.976 Council Healey asked a question. Um 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.000 yeah, that's if we had no 00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:28.696 thank you councilors. I'm going to put 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:29.816 it to the vote and I'm sure it's going 00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:31.655 to be unanimous one. So all those in 00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:33.976 favor of the motion as amended um and 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.816 that's carried unanimous unanimously. 00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:37.655 Thank you councelors. 00:28:37.679 --> 00:28:39.736 Um, okay. We'll get council Hopper back 00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:41.255 in. 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.616 Now we're moving on to the not so 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.640 exciting stuff. So, as shortly council 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.480 councilors um 8.5 contract award for Kun 00:28:59.919 --> 00:29:01.496 master plan implementation for the 00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:04.375 Talbert Cres. 00:29:04.399 --> 00:29:06.296 Thank you, Council Stefanopoulos. The 00:29:06.320 --> 00:29:08.775 second council bell the awards council 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:09.655 Stefanopoulos 00:29:09.679 --> 00:29:12.679 it's a contract award council u Mayor so 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.056 happy to proceed as as um reported the 00:29:16.080 --> 00:29:16.696 report 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.015 thank you council bell 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.336 um thank you Mayor I might just it's in 00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:23.416 my ward this one 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.440 so I might just speak to it briefly um 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:29.176 it was interesting this one when I was 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.655 campaigning 00:29:31.679 --> 00:29:33.895 18 months ago now was it a fair bit of 00:29:33.919 --> 00:29:35.255 time's gone on but this was certainly 00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.976 one or this broader 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.135 um 00:29:40.159 --> 00:29:42.775 series of works was certainly raised 00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.799 many times and the importance that a lot 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.576 of the re residents had on the 00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:52.456 revitalizing of that particular area. So 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.775 I'm very glad to support this. Obviously 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.576 I think it's been um a process that's 00:29:57.600 --> 00:29:59.976 been well undertaken and I look forward 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.000 to seeing the um the works take place. 00:30:03.760 --> 00:30:05.255 just to talk a little bit more about the 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.279 project more broadly. Um I think the 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.480 idea that as a society these days, 00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:15.416 certainly in metropolitan areas, we're 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.816 becoming we are becoming increasingly 00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:20.840 disconnected from nature. 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.279 Um and I think it's just the sad reality 00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.320 of of modern living in the City areas. 00:30:27.679 --> 00:30:30.535 And I think any project that seeks to 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.696 close the gap that currently exists 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.416 between our access um to nature is a 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.496 really good thing. Um I agree with all 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:39.736 the points the points outlined in the 00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:42.535 executive summary such as improving 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.559 waterway health um native habitat and 00:30:45.600 --> 00:30:47.976 increasing biodiversity 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.895 access to green and blue open space in 00:30:49.919 --> 00:30:52.216 an urban context. 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.375 develop a community engagement with 00:30:54.399 --> 00:30:56.775 an understanding of their local creek 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.775 and increasing participation in local 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.799 park. I'm not so sure that it's going to 00:31:02.320 --> 00:31:04.056 achieve 00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:07.080 any great significance in the idea that 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.176 we can reduce the climate change 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.655 emergency at the local government level. 00:31:11.679 --> 00:31:12.775 But I think the other points are 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.015 certainly really important and I think 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.616 it's a great thing for the community to 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.535 have have access to. So just a little 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.336 bit of an overview there. Fair. 00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:24.360 Thank you. Any other speakers? Um, and 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.096 this is like a gem in Strington. I had 00:31:27.120 --> 00:31:29.655 the pleasure of going there last year um 00:31:29.679 --> 00:31:31.255 and meeting with the local residents 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:32.535 that have been heavily involved. And 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:33.655 it's hard to believe that you're 00:31:33.679 --> 00:31:35.416 standing in the middle of Superbia. 00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.176 It's the fact that they've restored it 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.495 to what it was like before 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.519 um houses started getting built is 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.176 just amazing. And those um residents are 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:46.936 very fortunate to have it so close to 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.960 their homes. Um, thank you. So, any 00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:53.080 other speakers? I'll now put it to 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.519 council. No. Um, all those in favor? 00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:58.775 That motion's carried unanimously. 00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:00.616 Councilors, that um concludes our 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.135 general business listed on the agenda 00:32:02.159 --> 00:32:04.375 for this evening. , councils, do we 00:32:04.399 --> 00:32:07.399 have any postmen to table? 00:32:08.399 --> 00:32:10.856 There being none. Um, do we have any 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.696 petitions or joint letters, which I 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.720 don't believe we do. No. All right. Um 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.440 councilors we now move to um there being 00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:23.495 no notices of motion we move to reports 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.056 by councilors and we have the following 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:27.416 reports from the committees to be 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:28.856 presented tonight. We have the record of 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.696 the council briefing session that was 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.720 held on the 16th February 20 um 26th and 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.255 record of the budget workshop was held 5 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.056 days earlier on the 11th of February. So 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:42.456 I will move with the first one that I 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:43.895 mentioned the record of the briefing 00:32:43.919 --> 00:32:46.775 session on the 16th of February 2026. 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.799 Do I have a remover? 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.895 Council Popper any motion. All those in 00:32:53.919 --> 00:32:56.456 favor adopting that. Thank you. That's 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.296 unanously moving to the recommended 00:32:58.320 --> 00:32:59.336 budget workshop. 00:32:59.360 --> 00:33:00.456 So moved. 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.535 Thank you. Council Stefanopoulos. 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.576 Council Hopper. 00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:05.255 Nothing to say. 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.279 Any speakers? All those in favor? It's 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.616 carried unanimously. Thank you 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.640 councilors. And we now move to questions 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.000 to council officers. Um from councilors. 00:33:17.360 --> 00:33:19.895 Are there any questions for council 00:33:19.919 --> 00:33:22.135 officers this evening? 00:33:22.159 --> 00:33:24.135 Just got one question. 00:33:24.159 --> 00:33:27.159 Um it's just in regard to um digital 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.039 parking permits. 00:33:32.320 --> 00:33:33.736 I'm not sure who I'm directing this to, 00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:36.760 but um just as a matter of context, 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.416 if I can, Mayor, I'm going to be meeting 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.216 on site at a location in my ward on 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240 Friday morning to talk about this 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.976 um with the benefit of context 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:49.495 and there'll be quite a few people there 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.336 in attendance, I believe. But as part of 00:33:51.360 --> 00:33:52.535 that process, I know there are going to 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.096 be questions raised around the petition 00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:57.976 that was signed but unsuccessfully 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.176 submitted effectively. 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:00.696 Oh, no, it was submitted. It just No, 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.015 sorry. It was submitted and it's been 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.655 considered. Um, it just was unsuccessful 00:34:05.679 --> 00:34:07.176 as a petition under our governance 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:08.936 rules. Certainly submitted and 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:09.496 acknowledged. 00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:11.176 So, it's got to its required 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:13.496 destination. It's been heard of and 00:34:13.520 --> 00:34:14.776 there's nothing more that they need to 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.016 do in terms. 00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:19.335 I will I will ask Mr. Ser just to work 00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:20.936 through the process from here. 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.095 Yes. Through you, M. So as you indicated 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.335 the um petition didn't comply with our 00:34:25.359 --> 00:34:26.615 governance rules in that it didn't 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.176 include the email addresses which is 00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:30.776 required for online petitions now 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.095 governance rules um but it was tabled as 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:34.855 correspondence to that meeting and it 00:34:34.879 --> 00:34:37.256 will be the issues raised within it will 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.176 be addressed in a March report to 00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:41.176 council. 00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:43.016 Thank you. Just one more question in 00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:46.040 relation to that and I know that any 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.615 petition or organizer of a petition 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.296 needs to take responsibility themselves 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.696 to understand what the government's laws 00:34:52.720 --> 00:34:54.615 are and comply with those adequately but 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.296 I just wondered whether or not and I've 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.216 heard a few times just anecdotally 00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:00.136 recently that there have been challenges 00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:01.496 of submitting a petition because it 00:35:01.520 --> 00:35:04.136 hasn't complied and again I say that the 00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:05.815 accountability is with the person that's 00:35:05.839 --> 00:35:07.496 undergoing that process but do we help 00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:08.936 them in any way 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.960 to let them discern to respond to that 00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:14.536 particular instance 00:35:14.560 --> 00:35:17.335 three. So with this particular petition 00:35:17.359 --> 00:35:19.335 when it was brought to our attention 00:35:19.359 --> 00:35:21.575 the government staff did reach out to 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.335 the petitioner and just advise on the 00:35:23.359 --> 00:35:24.856 requirements and how we could help. So 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.536 there was a a few back and forths there 00:35:26.560 --> 00:35:28.136 but we generally do assist people where 00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:29.896 we can if we have advanced notice of it 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.736 otherwise there's additional information 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.696 on our website but we also always try to 00:35:34.720 --> 00:35:36.856 help when we can. 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.880 cross that and um council bell there's 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.936 there's also FAQs and so forth which you 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.256 which may help assist you on Friday and 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.016 if you needed an officer I'm sure 00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:48.936 council officers could provide someone 00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.856 to attend that meeting with you 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.880 if that assist 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.335 all right let us know if you need 00:35:57.359 --> 00:35:59.256 anything else um are there any other 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.976 questions to the council officers 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.736 all right um any items of urgent 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.896 business. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.976 any items of general business this 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.296 evening? 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:11.176 Council. 00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:13.575 thank you. Um I just wanted to very 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.496 briefly touch on I'm wearing a t-shirt 00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:17.976 tonight um from the musical My Brilliant 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.216 Career. Um which is a musical theater 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:23.016 adaptation of the classic Australian 00:36:23.040 --> 00:36:25.176 novel by Miles Franklin. Um was 00:36:25.200 --> 00:36:27.416 published in 191. 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.656 Um it's a Melbourne Theater Company 00:36:29.680 --> 00:36:32.680 production. Um and it's I was um really 00:36:33.359 --> 00:36:36.359 delighted to learn on the weekend um 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.400 when I attended um the um my career um 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.536 that when it was under development it 00:36:42.560 --> 00:36:44.776 received a Stallington Arts and Culture 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.800 Grant. Um, it's since gone on to receive 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.376 multiple five-star reviews, um, four 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.856 green run awards, including outstanding 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.936 production and outstanding new 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.856 Australian music theater writing. And 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:58.856 just last week, it received Australia's 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.696 richest playwriting award, um, which is 00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:02.136 the David Williamson Prize for 00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:04.055 Excellence in Writing for Australian 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.456 Theater. Um, I thought it was a really 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.480 wonderful um, indication of the um, work 00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:13.016 that goes into um, arts and culture um, 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:16.040 in our municipality. um and how um 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.296 grants that Stomington has offered 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.456 artists and arts practitioners in our 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.616 community um have gone on to achieve 00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:24.936 really wonderful things. 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:26.376 Thank you, Council Hopper. Any other 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:27.976 items of general business to raise this 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.536 evening? 00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:32.856 There being none, um councilors, we now 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.880 move to confidential business. Can I um 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.095 have a vote to 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.216 So moved. 00:37:38.240 --> 00:37:40.856 Thank you. Seconded, councelor Hilly. 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.936 All those in favor 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.536 say we've now moved into confidential 00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:46.055 business. I thank the gallery for 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:47.335 joining us this evening. We're doing 00:37:47.359 --> 00:37:50.055 exciting confidential business. and 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.536 then we come back in for us to close the 00:37:52.560 --> 00:37:55.256 meeting but it may not be as exciting. 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.016 So, I thank you again for your presence 00:37:57.040 --> 00:38:00.040 this evening and um have a lovely week 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.416 that um we've now concluded with 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.335 council's confidential business and I 00:38:05.359 --> 00:38:07.496 now formally declare tonight's council 00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:10.520 meeting closed at 7:38 00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:14.296 p.m. Thank you everyone who joined us 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.456 online tonight and have a lovely week. 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.480 Thank you.