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Good evening and welcome to the City of

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Stonnington council meeting of Monday the

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16th of March 2026 I'm councilor Melina Sehr

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the Mayor of the City of Stonnington

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I'll begin with the reading of the

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reconciliation statement. We acknowledge

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we're meeting on the traditional lands

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of the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung and Bunurong Peoples

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of the East Kulin Nations and pay our

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respects to their Elders past and

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present. We extend that respect to all

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander

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Peoples. We acknowledge their living

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connection to country, relationship with

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the land, and all living things

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extending back tens of thousands of

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years. I now move to our statement of

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commitment. We're reminded that as

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councilors, we are bound by our oath of

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office to undertake the duties of

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councelor in the best interest of the

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people of the City of Stonnington and to

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faithfully and impartially carry out the

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functions, powers, authorities, and

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discretions vested in us under the local

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government act and any other relevant

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act. Before we introduce councilors and

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officers present here this evening, I'd

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like to take this opportunity to remind

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our attendees of the behavioral

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expectations at council meetings.

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Members of the public are not permitted

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to address the council may only do so

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with consent of the chair or by prior

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arrangement. Council provides an

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opportunity for public engagement

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through the questions from the committee

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section of the meeting which requires

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pre-registration with our governance

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team. Any member of the public

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addressing the council must extend due

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courtesy and respect to the council and

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the processes under which it operates

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and must take direction from the chair

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whenever called on to do so. A member of

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the public in attendance at a council

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meeting must not disrupt the meeting.

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Any member of the public who disrupts

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the meeting or fails to comply with the

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direction I have issued may be removed

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from the council meeting. I'll now

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introduce the councilors around the

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table. To my left from Toorak Ward is

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councelor Tom Humphries from Orrong Ward,

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our Deputy Mayor, councelor Samantha

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Choudhury. From Wattletree Ward, councelor

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Steve Stefanopoulos. And on live behind

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me is councelor Jamie Bell from Tooronga

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Ward. And to my right from Hedgeley

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Dene Ward councelor Sally Davis from

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Malvern Valley Ward councelor Jami

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Klisaris from Como Ward Councelor

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Meghan Hopper and from South Yarra Ward

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Councelor Kate Hely. I will now ask

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our executive manager of governance and

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public affairs Xavier Smerden to

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introduce our staff here this evening.

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Over to you Xavier.

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Thank you and through you mayor behind us

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we have Evelyn Hong our governance

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officer, Emily Stockdale, senior

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governance officer to your far right is

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Reece Thomas, the coordinator of

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governance,  Julia Gallace chief

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financial officer. And to your far left

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is Cath Harrod director of planning and

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community. Simon Holloway director of

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environment, infrastructure, and

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Daniela Mazzone  director

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organizational capability. And to your

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immediate right is Dale Dixon, CEO.

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 thank you, Mr. Smerdon. Councilors, we

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now move to apologies to apologies for

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future meetings. Councilor Klisaris.

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Thank you, Mayor. I will  request a

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leave of absence for 30 March. This

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year's

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30 March. Thank you, councelor

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Klisaris. Can I have a move and a

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second to grant leave of absence to

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councelor Klisaris So moved. Councelor

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Davis, seconded councelor Hopper. All

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those in favor, leave of absence is

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granted. And other apologies, councilor

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Choudhury I'll be seeking an 

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apology from May 11th meeting.

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All right. Thank you, councelor Choudhury.

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Can I have a move and a second for the

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leave of absence to be granted? It's

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moved.

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Seconded.  all those in favor absence

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is granted. Councelor Choudhury,

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congratulations for both of you having

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the night off all right.

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Councilors, we now apologies. Therefore,

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we move to adoption confirmation of

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minutes of previous meetings.

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Councilors, we have one set amendments

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for adoption tonight. and they are

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the minutes of the council meeting held

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on the 23rd of February. Councelor

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Davis, you're moving them as print as 

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shared. You would like to make

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just like to thank my colleagues for

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I'll just

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seconded. Okay. Continue. Hoping that

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the paragraph will be repeated that

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is that the I'm hoping the will be

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installed in Malvern Town Hall

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on the 4th of 12th September 26th. But I

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did notice that you have changed the

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actual minutes of the month. So thank

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you

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as you requested. Yeah. No worries.

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Thank you. Um thank you councelor Davis.

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Councelor Stefanopoulos. Any other speakers to

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the minutes as amended? All those in

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favor of adopting the minutes is the

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correct  representation of the

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meeting. That's carried unanimously.

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Thank you. Council's disclosure by

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council by any conflict of interest of

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any conflict of interest on tonight's

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agenda. There being none, we now move to

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questions  to council from the

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community. So we've received three valid

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submissions from the community for

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tonight's meeting one of submission

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which will be the first one will is

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being presented online and two will

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be in person and for the benefit of

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those joining us tonight I'll briefly

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outline the process.  I will invite

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the submitter by name to move to the

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middle of the gallery for those in the

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in the chamber but obviously the person

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online  will  appear online. The

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submitter will have up to 3 minutes to

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ask their question or to make a

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statement. At the 2 and 1/2 minute mark

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you'll hear the bell ring once and this

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is to indicate the submitter has 30

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seconds remaining. At the conclusion of

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three minutes, you hear the bell ring

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twice and at which point the submitter

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will finish speaking. In accordance with

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the governor's rules, those submissions

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which relate to items on tonight's

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agenda will not be referred to officers

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for a response. However, councilors may

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wish to facilitate discussion of the

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submission during the discussion  for

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the relevant item. Submitters  you

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will be visible and audible to all

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councils, council officers and the

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gallery and audible to the public that

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are watching the live stream online. And

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I'll also take the opportunity to remind

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 the submitters to please use the

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wording of their presubmitted question

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or statement and to ensure that it

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remains in line with council's mutual

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respect charter. I will now invite

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Matthew Townsend who will be appearing

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online to read a statement in relations

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to nuisance vehicle noise in Stonnington.

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Matthew,

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thank you Mayor and councilors. I'm

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writing to invite council to consider

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acquiring noise monitoring technology

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that would allow to identify and find

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the riders and drivers of motorbikes

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vehicles that cause nuisance noise along

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chapel street and potentially other

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outdoor dining precincts in the

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municipality. As you may be aware,

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section 60 of the public health and

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wellbeing act imposes a duty on councils

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 to deal with as far as

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possible all nuisances within its

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municipal district. Section 61 makes it

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an offense for a person cause nuisance

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and there's a maximum penalty of 120

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penalty units. Section 62 requires

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council to investigate notification of a

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nuisance and if it is found to exist

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council has a number of actions spoken

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to it including improvement notices

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prohibition notices or proceedings.

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Now, the reason I'm making this request

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to council to consider because the um

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the cost benefit of acoustic noise

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cameras now seems to me to be to make it

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well within the the grasp of of

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council's management of Chapel Street

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and other dining precincts. There's a

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system in particular that I want to draw

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to your attention. It's called the sound

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system and I've made a reference in my

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letter to the website

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and if any anyone's interested in that

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technology just click click onto the

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website and you can immediately see how

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 how it operates. Now if council did

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want to introduce a trial  it's not an

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automatic system very similar to what

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happens with speed cameras. It's a final

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decision to issue a fine risks within

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enforcement or officer who may choose to

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distinguish for instance antisocial

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driving from the legitimate noise and

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sequences that we experience in chapel

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streets such as the other three vehicles

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overseas.  the system has been very

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successful. I think it was introduced in

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the Royal Burough of Kensington and

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Chelsea in 2009

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19 sorry and over a 3-month trial  in

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2020 the county was issued 163 fines and

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69 warnings and I think the 

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possibility of issuing warnings is

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really good because it's not revenue

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issuing raising exercise. It's possible

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for council to simply say take your

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noisy vehicle somewhere else.

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 there was  trials  also in  New

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South Wales led by the New South New

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South Wales government  and  the New

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South Wales trial attracted more than 2

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and a half thousand community responses

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described as record for that engagement

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for the day consultation fines for

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excessive noise I believe was between

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150 $500 but again it's up to council

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here to set it structure. So in

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conclusion, it appears to me that the

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statutory framework already exists in

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Sonic or Victoria for new vehicles to be

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fined with they call news municipality

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at a cost of $27,000

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plus software. The technology is now

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sufficient, reliable and cost effective

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for it to make a meaningful contribution

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to the humanity of of our 

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municipality. And if councilors or

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officers are interested in the

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suggestion  being developed, I'd be

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happy to work with you to put a more

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considered proposal together with the

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cost benefits of different technologies

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and to provide you more detail around

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the legal framework for their

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production. And finally, once again,

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thank you to each of you  for giving

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your evenings and weekends to help

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Stoington such a wonderful place to

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live.

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Um thank you, Matthew thank you very

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much for your well-considered response.

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 we do we have shared I know that

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you've  bridged what you've provided.

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 so thank you all councils have a copy

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of the full  submission and we will

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certainly be looking at this. So thank

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you so much for taking the time and

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pleasure to  hear from you again.

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Thank you Matthew

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councilors. We now move to our second

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senator for the evening um who is here

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in the gallery and that is and that's

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Francis Johnson. Thank you. I'm just

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getting to the right page. Thank you. Um

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so I now invite Francis Johnson to read

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a statement in relation to agenda item

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8.4 Stonington submission to stage 2

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state government activity center program

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phase 2. Is that yourself?

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Yes.

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Yes. Thank you. Over to you. understand

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or

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up to you whatever you're most

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comfortable with. Francis on behalf

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of the Aral Activity Center Action

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Group, otherwise known as SA, we just

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like to give a statement of thanks and

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recognition to the City of Scington

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strategy planning team, Lynette Mlennon,

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Suan Hunter, George Hibage, Tamara Low,

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Ashley Mosscrop. Thank you for your

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tireless work over 5 years with the

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community to develop a well planned

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evidence-based housing strategy and

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nuity center framework. We are so

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fortunate to have your expertise. The

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strategy and framework together form the

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key advocacy tool to inform and guide

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housing growth and change in this area,

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our area that we all love. Thanks to

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your work, we can make an informed

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response to the government to tell them

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that with your detailed planning, it is

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possible to build more homes and

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preserve the character and heritage of

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the neighborhood areas that we all love.

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We would also like to thank councelor

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Kate from South Ward and councelor Sally

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Davis from Kentley Deville. As are

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residents, we are in a capable selling

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boards, but they lend us their support

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on the biggest change to planning

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controls coming to our area in decades.

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Councelor Neely, you brought the housing

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strategy to life through your Instagram

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post. You walked 20 km in one weekend

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alone, door knocking and handing out

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flyers to tell people what was

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happening. You explained the urgency and

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the importance for why we need to

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support a housing growth strategy with

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local expertise. You helped be the

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strong, assertive voice for our

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community.

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Councelor Davis, you are a tireless

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advocate who spoke up when others in the

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council remain quiet on this issue. You

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have worked so diligently since the

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announcement of the activity center

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program to explain what the impacts will

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be to listen to concerned people in our

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community and to support the work of

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Stoington's strategy planning team. Like

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councelor Healey, you have gone beyond

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the boundaries of your ward to help

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residents who would otherwise have been

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unsupported.

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Thank you, Council Healey, Councelor

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Davis, and all of the Stington Housing

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Strategy team. You have a strong

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community who stands behind you and the

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government may or may not listen to our

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voices. That's outside our control. But

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for the record, we have a plan. We know

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we'll work. We stand with Stington

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and thank you on behalf of the Arctic

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Center Action Group and say

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thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. All right. So we

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now move to um Jessica Vicaro to present

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two questions. One in relation to

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hardways collection, the other one in

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relation to Chapel Street precinct

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safety.

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Thank you Jessica. Um I'm a South G

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resident at Strington Bay and I'd like

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to raise a concern regarding the current

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autumn high waste collection on your

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main field in several streets around my

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area. The collection appears to be

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creating disruption. A clear example is

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outside 34 street. You can refer to the

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images I provided where highways have

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been left flawed across both the

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footpath and the road. The pile is no

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longer contained to the nature strip and

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is now obstructing pedestrian access and

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narrowing the roadway. This creates our

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own issues for residents and visitors.

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It poses a safety hazard for pedestrians

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who are forced

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onto the road and paths. It also creates

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potential hazards for cyclists and

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drivers and has become unus

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shopping trolley as many do around the

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island which further contributes to the

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ongoing clutter and visual right in

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Australia. My question to council is

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what measures will council take to

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ensure high waste is managed in a way

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that doesn't obstruct for park growth

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and can monitoring or enforcement be

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improved during collection periods

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particularly at properties where this

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appears to be a recurring issue. Whilst

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the service is appreciated, many

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residents would welcome clearer guidance

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and stronger management during

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collection periods to prevent situations

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like this occurring. I would also like

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to raise a second concern regarding the

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ongoing decline of Charles Street

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precinct. These there appears to be a

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continual rise in commercial vacancy

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rates along Charles Street driven by

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several factors including rising crime,

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vandalism and concerns around community

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safety. Charles Street no longer feels

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like the iconic shopping and hospitality

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precinct it once was. In fact, the the

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shift in public perception is now widely

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reflected in online commentary. I

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constantly stop seeing comments on

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social media such as it's the yellow and

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again you can refer to my screenshot um

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a comment made on social media and

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that's why I'm getting a world launch.

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These remarks highlight growing

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sentiment that the area is losing its

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appeal and reputation. Most concerning

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is that sh no longer feels safe

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or attractive for residents or visitors

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particularly for women and  business

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owners are operating there. My friend

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owns a business on Chapel Street and

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frequently she has to shut her door shut

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her door in her own business because of

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safety reasons. Um it raises the

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question of how businesses or how

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business operators are expected to run

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viable businesses under these

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circumstances especially when paying

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very high commercial rates. My question

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to council is what actions have been

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taken to address safety crime vandalism

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and charity to restore  to help

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restore business confidence and improve

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vacancy rates. Many residents including

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myself and business owners deeply care

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about Apple Street and  we want to see

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it revised, revitalized, safe and

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driving again and what greater

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transparency what has been done and what

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 results are being achieved would be

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greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Thank you Jessica. Um so in relation to

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your first question on hard waste um

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could you wish to respond and take one

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of those Mr. Hallway?

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U thank you Mayor. Um we will take the

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  question on notice. So we will 

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immediately investigate the reported

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issue in relation to street council does

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um provide direction to residents around

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how to present  hard rubbish and we do

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monitor that on an ongoing basis and

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work with any problematic um particular

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properties but we will definitely

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follow.

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All right. And C, did you want to add

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anything further to the second question

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in relation to um traffic street safety?

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Um through you, Mayor. Um

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I think the the questions are absolutely

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recently made. Um and there's quite a

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number of things that council is um

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working through to do um partnership

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with state government around better

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policy and better funding. Um we're

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working with um Big Hole around ensuring

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um and advocating strongly that um we

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see any vacancy rates particularly train

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station quickly. Um we're having to view

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um recent discussions with the acting

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inspector that they are seeing an

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improvement in their vacancy rate. So

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the number of vacancies they've had are

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improving. Um which is good. We need to

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see more police on the street. Um there

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are a number of things raised um here

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that I believe you'll be able to

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address. Um so I'll take some of that on

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notice. Um we are waiting on a report.

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We've had the Salo Street team um

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conducting um a a investigation for us

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around the behavior that um travel

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street is experiencing at the moment

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looking for recommendations around what

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council can do. Um what also we would

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expect state to do in this space. It's a

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very large entertainment precinct that

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needs state government to be part of

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that conversation. Um there's a number

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of things council do fund um and that is

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in the housing space. So those who are

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experiencing um homelessness. We have a

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partnership to launch housing to try and

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get those um vulnerable people off the

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street as soon as possible. But

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absolutely acknowledge the complexity of

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some of those behaviors has a huge

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impact on Chapel Street. Um so we're

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taking this very seriously. We have

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chapel street improvement plan that we

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have had a significant focus around

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community and community safety. Um, and

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we'll continue to work through that. But

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you've raised quite a number of issues

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that I think more response.

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And Jessica, I'm happy to reach out and

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have a conversation with you as well

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directly. So I'll get your details if

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you don't mind from the start.

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Oh yeah. No, absolutely. Yes, council

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healing. Um so just in relation to

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street my ward um I believe that the

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place you're talking about is actually

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owned by Frank housing state government

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organization I'm constantly getting

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complaints from residents and rightly so

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continuously turning up there

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with how they respond to that we

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obviously pick up some of the rubbish

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but it's not really our responsibility

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should be their responsibility to take

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care of these things make anyone else

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but it is definitely something that is

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top of mind for as far as

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Thank you councelor Hilly I'll also add

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it's a number of um state government

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government housing estates throughout

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the City not just limited to Clar Street

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but in Armadal and in Pan Winds we have

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exactly the same challenges even just

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maintaining where their bins it's just

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an ongoing issue unfortunately they've

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changed the service providers many years

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ago and we don't get that level of

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service and Cath has been dealing with

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um numerous complaints for exactly the

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reasons you've just raised with those

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sorts of sites that are not within our

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control. But look, thank you. I'll reach

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out to you separately. Just give me a

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couple of days. And um thank you. Thank

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you for for taking the time. Thank you

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to for your lovely words as well. Um and

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just with planning just note um all

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councils have been involved in that and

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and the the planning um schemes that

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you've seen have taken many many years

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and many many councils council laws and

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some of which are no longer around this

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table some of which are no longer around

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at all unfortunately um but that's why

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we've got such a strong strategic plan

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so I just want to acknowledge that um

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there are others that um you may not

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have mentioned that have done a lot of

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work um in making sure that we protect

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what we love about Strington but again

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thank you for coming acknowledging the

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great work of our officers and and some

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of the counselors that you've been

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interacting with. It's a pleasure. So,

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you're welcome to stay. Um there's some

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interesting things on the um agenda or

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if you um like to leave um please can do

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so now. We're going to move into general

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business shortly. Right. Thank you

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again.

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All right, councilors.

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Um, we now move to general business and

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we'll start with item 8.1 Market Street

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South proposal to install temporary

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closure during market days. Can I have a

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mover and a seconder? Moved. Councelor

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Hilly. Do I have a seconder?

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Council. Councelor Hilly. Thank you. I

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was question.

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So um officers confirm that the market

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security the market security officer is

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not there um and there's a firearm

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the gate automatically open

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that's correct

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okay I was just aware that that was a

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concern as to why closure um also that

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the report mentions the trial be um

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evaluated to determine whether to make

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it a time um to make the time closure

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permanent however concerned that doesn't

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go further enough far enough. So, I just

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wonder what data could or will be

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collected during the 12 month trial to

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help council build a case for a

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potential move towards full permanent

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closure of the road in the future.

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Through you, Mayor, we'll develop a

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comprehensive um evaluation um framework

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for the trial that will include a review

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of um  movement related  data. So um

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numbers of pedestrian cyclists 

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non-market vehicles to provide before

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and after comparisons.  we'll also

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work with the market to ensure we

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collect data around any  incidents or

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near miss. So again we have before and

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after  as it relates to the OS

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experienced issues  within the market.

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we we'll we'll develop a um framework of

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:11.576
all evaluation measures and provide that

00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:13.015
information to council.

00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.039
Okay. Thank you. Um so speaking to the

00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:18.775
motion that the the premark is obviously

00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:21.799
an icon of South Prem South just putting

00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:24.535
out there. Um but it's currently

00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.535
operating under very intense spatial

00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.176
pressure. So um the market's actually

00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.655
approached us very  a number of times

00:24:31.679 --> 00:24:34.216
over the last dec decade or so

00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.015
highlighting the clear and prison safety

00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.096
um risk that's on Market Street which is

00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:42.120
the area between um alongside Alia and

00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:44.535
while we're fortunate that no major

00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.535
events have um occurred yet the danger

00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.559
of mixing heavy trucks and forkless 

00:24:49.679 --> 00:24:51.895
with pedestrians and cyclists in such a

00:24:51.919 --> 00:24:54.919
confined space is inherently obvious. Um

00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:57.816
and to put the intensity of this demand

00:24:57.840 --> 00:25:00.216
into perspective um the market told me

00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:02.856
that only 6% of the brand market is the

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:04.856
site is dedicated to back of house

00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.176
operations and in comparison south

00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:08.775
Melbourne market has a back of house

00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.736
footprint of 22%. So that means that

00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:13.816
market street which is a councilown

00:25:13.840 --> 00:25:15.976
freehole title that's occupied by the

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.376
market is effect

00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.255
effectively a highintensity commercial

00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.056
loan bay. Um, and recent data shows that

00:25:24.080 --> 00:25:27.015
over 24hour period, we've got over 2,000

00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.576
pedestrians a day and 40 cyclists moving

00:25:29.600 --> 00:25:31.655
through this area. Um, so we're

00:25:31.679 --> 00:25:33.496
essentially allow allowing thousands of

00:25:33.520 --> 00:25:35.655
residents to walk through an active

00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:37.976
industrial zone. Um, and a major

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.616
retailer like Bers or Coohl's would

00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.336
never permit this level of unmanaged

00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:45.736
risk in their loading bays. And I don't

00:25:45.760 --> 00:25:48.616
think we as a council should either. um

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:50.296
our community engagement that's been

00:25:50.320 --> 00:25:52.296
done several times now through different

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:54.296
proposals suggests that the public is

00:25:54.320 --> 00:25:57.255
really ready for change. Back in 2015, a

00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.736
similar investigation through only four

00:25:59.760 --> 00:26:01.655
objectives, which I don't see as being a

00:26:01.679 --> 00:26:04.056
huge number. And more recently, our

00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:06.456
February 26 consultation received only

00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.936
two responses, one in favor and one

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.616
essentially suggesting that the proposal

00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.456
didn't go far enough to address the

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.480
safety issues. So intuitively I believe

00:26:15.520 --> 00:26:17.976
that a more permanent closure may be the

00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.056
ultimate solution to address this safety

00:26:20.080 --> 00:26:23.080
conflict um once and for all. Um however

00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:24.775
at the same time I think this 12 month

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.799
trial is a good first step towards that

00:26:28.159 --> 00:26:29.736
cuz it'll allow us to move from that

00:26:29.760 --> 00:26:32.456
intuition that I think we all feel to

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.480
evidence. Um I don't think necessarily

00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:37.496
the idea that someone got hit or not

00:26:37.520 --> 00:26:38.856
being a measure of whether or not we

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:40.216
should do it or not because it's

00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:41.816
inherent that there's a high risk of

00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:43.895
being out of here. We have to ensure

00:26:43.919 --> 00:26:45.736
that we protect our residents while

00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:48.216
supporting the ability for the market to

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.696
conduct its business. So I support

00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.376
officers's recommendation but I hope

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.535
that in that 12 month 12 months time

00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:56.775
where it comes back to us that we won't

00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.856
be just going yeah let's keep going but

00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.416
how can we keep improving the safety to

00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.255
mitigate as much risk as we possibly

00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:04.135
can.

00:27:04.159 --> 00:27:04.535
Thank you.

00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.336
Thank you councelor Hilly Councelaris.

00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:09.096
Don't think I can really add on to that

00:27:09.120 --> 00:27:10.456
there. Um look I think it's a

00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.480
no-brainer. Um I'm you know  a little

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.936
bit cheaply going to meet often into the

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.960
market through this lane and it's not

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:21.895
it's actually not great and there have

00:27:21.919 --> 00:27:23.416
been many times where I've stepped out

00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.440
and um there is a truck backing out or

00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.416
something. So it's not you don't need it

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.576
to enter the market to access the site

00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:33.096
from a pedestrian point of view. There's

00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:34.936
plenty of other entrances and whatnot.

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.456
It does look very nice. It does

00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.096
absolutely feel industrial. That's very

00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:41.655
fair statement. Um it has been requested

00:27:41.679 --> 00:27:43.255
a number of times from council. There

00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:44.775
have been reasons over the years why we

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:47.799
haven't agreed to um to do this but I

00:27:48.159 --> 00:27:51.159
think a trial is a good middle ground um

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.336
because we should see what impact it has

00:27:53.360 --> 00:27:56.360
improvements doesn't worsen things um or

00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.559
or not and then like councelor said

00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:01.816
reassess in a year's time to determine

00:28:01.840 --> 00:28:04.840
the success or or failure of the trial

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:06.375
um and then I guess what are the steps

00:28:06.399 --> 00:28:08.616
we take from there. Um it comes with a

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:10.375
small cost but we have a budget with

00:28:10.399 --> 00:28:12.375
sufficient funds in it to to cover that

00:28:12.399 --> 00:28:13.976
which I think is really important and we

00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:15.895
have to keep investing in the market.

00:28:15.919 --> 00:28:17.976
It's growing leaps and bounds over the

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.456
last years especially um through co

00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.216
which was quite a difficult time for the

00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.696
market. Um and I just think it's changed

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.775
so much and I'm there quite frequently

00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.799
and the vibe is incredible. So the the

00:28:29.919 --> 00:28:32.919
things we can do within our budget in in

00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:34.456
partnership with the board and the

00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.015
general manager um we must do. I really

00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.416
feel a strong sense of duty about that

00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.015
and whilst this just seems like

00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.576
something really minor um this market

00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:46.456
street closure um it's a big deal to to

00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.056
the market to the traders and to the

00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:50.216
board so I'm sure they will be very

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:51.736
pleased if this gets on the right

00:28:51.760 --> 00:28:52.216
tonight.

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.816
Thank you councelor Cara is there any

00:28:53.840 --> 00:28:56.840
other speakers to motion council? Oh,

00:28:57.520 --> 00:28:59.416
look, just to add, I think that this is

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.440
a really positive um trial process. Um,

00:29:03.840 --> 00:29:05.496
you know, it's interesting to read in

00:29:05.520 --> 00:29:08.056
the report at point 7 that it describes

00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:11.080
the area as  a major loading zone for

00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:13.736
the market, but also as an important and

00:29:13.760 --> 00:29:15.655
heavily utilized thorough affair for the

00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:17.576
local community.

00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:20.135
It's very rare for me to privilege

00:29:20.159 --> 00:29:22.616
vehicles above pedestrians um in my

00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.096
contributions to council debate. Um but

00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:27.255
on this particular one I think that its

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.336
role as a major loading zone for the

00:29:29.360 --> 00:29:31.736
market is actually the more important

00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:34.760
usage of the two um it's certainly a

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.336
heavily utilized pedestrian far but I

00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.496
question whether it's actually important

00:29:39.520 --> 00:29:42.520
pedestrian far the reality is if the

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.255
market's open then people should be

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.976
making their  trip from Elizabeth

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.416
Street to commercial road through the

00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.440
market ideally um and if the market's

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.856
not open then you like we'd like to

00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.856
direct them to Chapel Street a few

00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.255
meters up the road. Um and so I'd hope

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.279
that if the trial process is successful

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.375
um and we get positive feedback that

00:30:04.399 --> 00:30:07.015
we'll also introduce um you know more

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.856
placemaking and way findings of

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.535
interventions that will encourage people

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.535
to use those options available to them

00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.015
as pedestrians rather than you know

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.416
walking through an unattractive and

00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.416
unsafe load zone.

00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.176
Thank you councelor Hopper. Other

00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.775
speakers,

00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.296
councelor Hilly, you happy for me to put

00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.320
it to the vote. All those in favor?

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.015
That motion is carried unanimously.

00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.856
Thank you, council. We now move to item

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.880
8.2, container deposit scheme, CDS lease

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.015
options expansion investigation results.

00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.696
Noting we have an officer recommendation

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.216
and we also have an alternate

00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.696
recommendation. Do I have a mover and a

00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.856
second for the alternate recommendation?

00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.255
Councelor Healey, do you have a second?

00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.336
Council Stefanopoulosanops. Council Healey.

00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:50.936
Thank you. um sort of explain the

00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.736
difference here. Um just the two extra

00:30:53.760 --> 00:30:55.816
points down the bottom there in red

00:30:55.840 --> 00:30:58.840
which um is  noting more advocacy. Um

00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:03.816
and then also requesting that it will be

00:31:03.840 --> 00:31:05.416
brought back to council in 12 months

00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.736
about re-evaluating the suitability of

00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:10.760
brand square for a site. Um so

00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:14.520
essentially to this item generally the

00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.799
container deposit scheme is crucial for

00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.240
the objective of um diverting 80% of

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.440
waste from landfill by 2030. Um it's an

00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.255
industry funded initiative that rewards

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.576
community um for doing the right thing

00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:32.600
with a 10 cent um refund per container.

00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.176
Um the problem with Stonington though is

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.895
that we only have two refund points in

00:31:37.919 --> 00:31:39.736
the entire municipality and both of them

00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:42.296
are on private premise and this leaves

00:31:42.320 --> 00:31:45.255
us with one of the fewest um container

00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.255
deposit scheme access points of all

00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.015
metropolitan Melbourne. So we're

00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:50.296
essentially making it harder for

00:31:50.320 --> 00:31:52.216
community to participate in the scheme

00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.535
that's designed to reward them. Um, so

00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.976
I'm providing the alternative because

00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.736
while I support the offic's work in

00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:00.760
identifying L streets, I believe that

00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.576
council needs to do far more and be far

00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:06.135
more assertive. Um, if we don't get the

00:32:06.159 --> 00:32:08.296
system up and running, we can't complain

00:32:08.320 --> 00:32:10.135
if the state government eventually

00:32:10.159 --> 00:32:13.159
forces us to add another purple bin. Um,

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.200
so a fourth bin um, which in the western

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.456
municipality is it's already half of

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.456
three, so we're going to add four. So in

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.696
order to start off that requirement, we

00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.135
really need to be giving some great

00:32:24.159 --> 00:32:27.159
options um for residents. Um and the

00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:30.535
other thing is that the income that we

00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.416
can get from this um composite scheme um

00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:34.936
because council does get some income

00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.336
from that can be used to help offset

00:32:37.360 --> 00:32:39.176
some of the waste charges which again

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.056
can help um residents hopefully pay less

00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:44.296
than they need to but pay less than

00:32:44.320 --> 00:32:45.895
otherwise they would for their waist

00:32:45.919 --> 00:32:48.056
charges. So, it's really positive for us

00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:51.080
for our community to go um go straight

00:32:52.399 --> 00:32:55.015
at this. So, I'm just concerned that the

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.816
the um progress is being throttled

00:32:57.840 --> 00:33:00.216
somewhat by the supply of machines which

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.240
is why the 0.5 is being added. Um and it

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.456
it seems like potentially unless we

00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.535
advocate for it a bit more heavily other

00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.696
municipalities might be prioritized over

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.775
us and we shouldn't just wait for the

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.856
leftovers. um we need to be really on

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.096
the front foot with this. Um I also

00:33:17.120 --> 00:33:18.216
acknowledge that there's been some

00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.456
stakeholder push back on some other

00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.255
potential sites. Um however, given the

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:24.936
overwhelming positive impact these

00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.336
machines have on the broader community,

00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:30.135
I really believe um the waiting of that

00:33:30.159 --> 00:33:32.056
stakeholder feedback should be

00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:34.856
reconsidered. Um, so further to that, I

00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.936
just want to ask a question to officers

00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.015
about when we're likely to get a new

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.576
assessment of potential sites, including

00:33:41.600 --> 00:33:43.895
those that may have previously been

00:33:43.919 --> 00:33:46.296
discounted due to um, stakeholder

00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:48.135
feedback.

00:33:48.159 --> 00:33:50.135
Through Mayor, , I think it would be

00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:51.816
reasonable to bring a report back to

00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:54.840
council , in the next 6 months. Um, it

00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.816
is further resolution. It's an ongoing

00:33:57.840 --> 00:33:59.655
activity of all officers to be looking

00:33:59.679 --> 00:34:02.679
at sites um that is both new sites and

00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:06.120
also  reconsideration of assessment of

00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:08.776
sites that previously been assessed. So

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.335
thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you. Right

00:34:11.359 --> 00:34:12.855
council council stepping off please.

00:34:12.879 --> 00:34:14.776
Thank you may I concur with my learning

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.256
colleague over here. Um but I think

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.335
we've been very slow off the mark sadly.

00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:22.359
So in June 2025 council approved three

00:34:22.399 --> 00:34:25.399
initial locations. um none of which

00:34:25.919 --> 00:34:28.919
worked. And so then in November, council

00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.976
resolved to not commit to um curbside

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.000
glass collection, which is great. Um we

00:34:35.200 --> 00:34:36.296
know that there aren't any of these

00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.095
machines available for us. So we are now

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.176
asking for two sites, the Elizabeth

00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:43.815
Street car, which councilors were um

00:34:43.839 --> 00:34:46.536
vehemently um supporting to be included

00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:48.375
and Dar Street, which hopefully help my

00:34:48.399 --> 00:34:50.536
residents in Armadal and Melbourne. I

00:34:50.560 --> 00:34:52.776
ain't going to hold my breath for any of

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.536
these to come to fruition sadly because

00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:57.335
there aren't any machines anywhere to be

00:34:57.359 --> 00:34:59.095
brought to the City of Stoington because

00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.496
I think we were slow off the mark. Um

00:35:01.520 --> 00:35:03.976
you go into White Horse, you go into

00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.536
Daraban, you go into Hopson's Bay, you

00:35:06.560 --> 00:35:08.776
go into Bayside and Lara and they're

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.800
there and we've got Diddly Squash. So

00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.055
although this is great and I support my

00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:15.176
little colleague, I think it's a great

00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:18.200
initiative. I will not hold my breath.

00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:21.095
Thank you councelor Stefanopoulos. Are

00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.376
there any other speakers? Councelor

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.400
Davis question for clarification from

00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.296
director of infrastructure  on

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.320
council's comment.  is that correct

00:35:31.520 --> 00:35:33.575
about the machines that are just not

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.136
available and what's the expected

00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:38.296
expectation?

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.320
 through you may the state government

00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.400
appointed three operators  to run the

00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.016
contains deposit scheme  where in a

00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:52.040
region  with one designated operator

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.136
 and I can confirm the council's

00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:59.160
comment is correct in that um even once

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.000
we have an indoor site we are reliant on

00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:05.016
that operator having an available

00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:08.040
machine and we have been advised that um

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.256
 the operator does not have  surplus

00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.016
machines available and essentially we

00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:15.896
have to wait until um a machine becomes

00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.575
available

00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.599
any time span

00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:23.736
thank you councelor does any other

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.296
questions or comments in relation to

00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.856
this item councelor hilly happy for me

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.815
to put it to the vote all those in favor

00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:33.496
that motion is carried unanimously thank

00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:36.520
you councels we now move to um Fogo food

00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.119
and garden organics recovery update. Got

00:36:41.839 --> 00:36:44.839
a garbage here tonight. Councelor,

00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.416
who would like to move and second the

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.095
motion?

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:50.936
Council Stefanopoulos. Councelor

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.575
Hopper. I'm sorry. I feel like I forced

00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.496
you to put your hand up then. My

00:36:55.520 --> 00:36:56.696
apologies.

00:36:56.720 --> 00:36:57.815
So, Council Stefanopoulos.

00:36:57.839 --> 00:36:59.575
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I've seen a number

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.936
of these sites, especially in the

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.456
western end of the municipality, work

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.416
extremely well. the uptake um especially

00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.440
at Graten Gardens and at the um  pool

00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.416
at Piran has been really really good and

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.176
I know that the Armadal Baptist Church

00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:15.736
in Kong Road has been an enthusiastic

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.696
participant in this program. Um, we need

00:37:18.720 --> 00:37:21.256
to I I know my neighbors also use their

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.976
food organic waste bins at home. And if

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.976
we can provide this service for those

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.136
who cannot have a rubbish bin on their

00:37:28.160 --> 00:37:31.160
site or those that cannot um physically

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:32.936
accommodate them because it will just

00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.896
add another bin to their very small

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.376
curlage and I do have small streets in

00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.536
my ward as well as Castle Hill does and

00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:42.296
Castle Hopper do as you do at the

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.456
Western End. Um, but this will be a

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.376
great way of encouraging people who live

00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.216
in apartments and buildings, um, all

00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:49.976
those small houses to be able to take

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.136
their photo down to the end of the

00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:55.160
street and then use it for , food g

00:37:55.359 --> 00:37:57.256
food food waste organic recycling will

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.496
go back to our farmers. , so it's a

00:37:59.520 --> 00:38:01.176
great initiative. Um, we could do more

00:38:01.200 --> 00:38:03.256
and I'm hoping that we this will be

00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.216
stage two I think of a many stages.

00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:08.296
Thank you, council. council.

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:09.656
Look, I'm really pleased to get this

00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:11.496
update because I think the diversion of

00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:13.896
food and garden organics um from general

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.815
waste is such an important thing for us

00:38:15.839 --> 00:38:18.696
to be doing. Um and as a council, I

00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:21.256
believe we have one of the lowest um

00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.280
sort of diversions um of food and garden

00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.256
organics from general waste. Um we also

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.280
have a very low proactive optin um take

00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:33.640
up of food organic organic bins. Um and

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.079
so the roll out of opt out um bins is

00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.856
you know hopefully encouraging our

00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.880
community which places so much value in

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.696
environmental sustainability

00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:49.720
um and you know um making a contribution

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.000
um you know I I think that the roll out

00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:55.335
and increasing the number of green beans

00:38:55.359 --> 00:38:58.359
in the community is really vital um to

00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.536
allow them to make that contribution.

00:39:00.560 --> 00:39:03.416
But I also acknowledge um that

00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.216
particularly in areas like the parks out

00:39:06.240 --> 00:39:08.936
here um that I represent um we have a

00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.016
lot of apartment buildings that are not

00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:12.776
on council waste collection. They're on

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.496
private waste collection. Um we have 

00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:17.416
council a lot of apartment buildings

00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.815
where there may not be a lot of 

00:39:19.839 --> 00:39:22.536
street frontage in order to you know

00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:25.095
include um food or green organic things.

00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.575
And so having these drop off points um

00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.296
in additional locations is also a really

00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.055
important service. But I also know

00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.976
there's a lot of multi-unit developments

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.216
that are really excited looking forward

00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:37.896
um to their food organic green organic

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.416
bins. The one that I live in is one of

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.016
them. Um we can't wait to get our

00:39:41.040 --> 00:39:43.496
caddies and be using our green bins. Um

00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:45.256
so bring it along.

00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.280
I'll end mine. We don't cook at home. So

00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:49.976
in the meantime, thank you council

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.815
offer. Um councelor Hilly.

00:39:51.839 --> 00:39:53.815
Thank you. I think when we first

00:39:53.839 --> 00:39:56.055
introduced the idea of these public

00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.856
photo bins um there was a potential

00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.256
concern that the sky might fall um

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.136
because there were going to be

00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:03.896
unpleasant smells, there going to be

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:05.656
rodents and that sort of thing. So it's

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:07.335
great that after we've done this initial

00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:09.815
trial that that didn't happen, the sky

00:40:09.839 --> 00:40:11.256
has not fallen and that these actually

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.976
work remarkably well. Um we've got some

00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.000
great data in the report about how um

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.136
residents are really engaged that we've

00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:23.160
um captured an estimated 226 tons of

00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:24.776
food waste saving us approximately

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.376
$19,000

00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.400
in land to fill disposal costs and $476

00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:32.776
tons of carbon emission. So really

00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.095
successful in all those ways. Um and

00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.176
while I support the permanent conversion

00:40:37.200 --> 00:40:39.416
of these um expansion sites, I'm

00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:40.776
concerned that we don't have enough

00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.256
concentration drop off points in South

00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.136
Ward being South

00:40:46.160 --> 00:40:49.160
as well. But um we have very dense

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:51.256
population. There's a lot of people that

00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.376
have been opting out. I think there's

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.400
only one Fogo drop off point in South

00:40:55.839 --> 00:40:58.839
Yort which is really um too low for

00:41:00.319 --> 00:41:02.376
people to trace all across town to use

00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.176
it. So um I really think we need to make

00:41:05.200 --> 00:41:07.575
sure we have more drop off points where

00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.295
the people in high density actually are.

00:41:10.319 --> 00:41:12.856
Um so while I of course back this

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.856
report, I again ask officers to

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.936
prioritize even more sites in the west

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.960
of the municipality to um to ensure that

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.496
this is available to the people who need

00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:24.696
it. Thank you.

00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:27.016
Thank you councelor Healey. other

00:41:27.040 --> 00:41:29.656
speakers. Councelor Davis, I was just

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:31.815
going to ask I'm just seeing the smile

00:41:31.839 --> 00:41:34.136
on your face. Um, director of

00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:34.936
infrastructure.

00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.896
Yes. Um, I'm just curious to know um how

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.920
many households in Stoington um with

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.736
their FOGO bins are inspecting and what

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.760
we gleaned from these um um last Friday

00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.136
got one of those on our bed. Smiley

00:41:50.160 --> 00:41:51.256
face. Yes, we

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.280
So, you're good. door. I always just

00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.936
wondered what how often do we do them

00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.016
and what are we learning?

00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:02.040
Mr. Thomas,

00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:04.376
I don't know why I said that as your

00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:05.176
presenter.

00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:08.200
That's okay. Through you, Mayor. Um 

00:42:08.319 --> 00:42:10.936
I'll have to provide the um exact

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.536
details around the number of houses.

00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:14.696
Although that being said, it's  it's

00:42:14.720 --> 00:42:17.656
um our bin feedback program. It's a very

00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:20.680
very successful program. We um we take a

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.616
sample of households across the

00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:25.640
municipality and um periodically um

00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:29.496
monitor the contents of  the bin just

00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:32.520
to establish um  waste disposal

00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.280
practices and um compliance with  the

00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.856
guidelines around what should be put in

00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.856
which bin and it gives us really really

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.416
important insights around contamination

00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.216
rate. So um really really pleased to see

00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:49.240
that the contamination rate in our photo

00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.280
bins  is positive. It's it's at an

00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.016
acceptable level. So we do get really

00:42:55.040 --> 00:42:57.335
really important feedback through that

00:42:57.359 --> 00:42:59.335
um monitoring process and that informs

00:42:59.359 --> 00:43:02.359
into our education programs having to

00:43:02.640 --> 00:43:03.815
provide details.

00:43:03.839 --> 00:43:05.256
Yeah. Thank you. I'm just interested.

00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.280
Thanks for targeting.

00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:10.856
Thank you. And you can win $50 if you

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.575
get it right. No, you can't. But for

00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.136
those for those that

00:43:16.160 --> 00:43:18.055
the res residents can, you know, which

00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:19.736
is great. All right. Thank you,

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.976
councelor Davis. Um other speakers

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.335
motion,

00:43:23.359 --> 00:43:25.575
council civil office.

00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.815
All those in favor?

00:43:27.839 --> 00:43:29.575
That motion's carried unanimously. Thank

00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.216
you, councilors. We now move to um the

00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:34.055
exciting agenda item for this evening

00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:35.976
and that is the Strington submission to

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.896
stage 2 state government activity center

00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.216
program phase 2. Move councelor

00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:41.896
Stefanopoulos. Seconded councelor

00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.416
Choudhury. Councelor Stefanopoulos.

00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.976
Thank you Mayor. Councilors have um

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.456
worked tirelessly with their officers to

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.616
develop this submission. We have had

00:43:50.640 --> 00:43:53.640
consultation or discussions with the um

00:43:53.839 --> 00:43:55.976
state government and their bureaucrats

00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.000
about this. We have made it clear what

00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:01.256
we have. We have our own housing

00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.055
strategy that goes above and beyond the

00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.976
targets that have been set by the state

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.536
government on the City of Stoington. I

00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:10.055
don't know how much clearer we can make

00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:11.736
this. We don't need to change our

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.095
planning scheme to accommodate

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:14.696
additional housing. Our current planning

00:44:14.720 --> 00:44:17.416
scheme works. We can accommodate more.

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:18.696
We've actually said where it's

00:44:18.720 --> 00:44:19.736
appropriate and where it's not

00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.736
appropriate. the heights, the setbacks

00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.656
and the transport and parking issues

00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:25.016
have all been addressed in our housing

00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:27.095
strategy which we presented to the

00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.119
minister and are still waiting and

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.095
waiting. In addition, we've put through

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.575
proposed heritage areas expansions 

00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.136
alterations and additions that don't

00:44:38.160 --> 00:44:39.896
impact on the amount of housing we can

00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.920
accommodate. And still we wait and we

00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:46.680
wait. So all this work that we've done

00:44:46.720 --> 00:44:49.335
seems to have been dare I say slightly

00:44:49.359 --> 00:44:51.575
ignored by the government. But in saying

00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.599
that our submission outlines what we

00:44:54.640 --> 00:44:56.616
think could occur and should occur.

00:44:56.640 --> 00:44:59.095
First things first, leave the heritage

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.456
areas and neighborhood character areas

00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.480
alone. It is a fur fee to suggest that

00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:05.496
it is acceptable to our community who

00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:08.520
live in these areas that housing can be

00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.496
run rough shot over and demolish and

00:45:11.520 --> 00:45:13.976
build housing that is inappropriate for

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.976
our residents and ain't going to happen

00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.000
in reality. When we talk about um

00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:20.936
housing that will meet the government's

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.536
expectation,

00:45:22.560 --> 00:45:24.456
you have to actually buy two blocks of

00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.856
land worth at about $4 million each to

00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.176
be able to get enough land to go up.

00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:30.456
Now, I hate to tell you what's happening

00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.616
in my world is some properties are

00:45:32.640 --> 00:45:34.055
actually buying their neighbors houses

00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:35.815
and demolishing and building a swimming

00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:37.815
pool or a tennis court. I kid you not,

00:45:37.839 --> 00:45:40.456
it happened in my area. There are three

00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.480
like that. And these are insignificant

00:45:43.520 --> 00:45:44.936
buildings that are being demolished and

00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.815
added to a heritage building next door.

00:45:47.839 --> 00:45:49.976
Great. Um, I'm sure that that's

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.256
happening in other areas of the City of

00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.280
Stoington. So the notion that we can run

00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:57.095
rough shop over our heritage areas and

00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.095
neighbor character areas is not

00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.575
acceptable in terms of heights and

00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.736
setbacks on our main high streets like

00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.656
Chapel Street especially in Windsor

00:46:05.680 --> 00:46:08.295
Sierra where there's lowrise in high

00:46:08.319 --> 00:46:11.319
street armad gling

00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:13.095
strategy we have our own planning scheme

00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.736
amendments in the planning scheme sorry

00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.335
planning scheme requirements in our

00:46:17.359 --> 00:46:19.176
planning scheme that dictate the

00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:20.616
appropriate height and the appropriate

00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:23.176
setbacks for that meets neighborhood

00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:25.176
character, overlooking, overshadowing,

00:46:25.200 --> 00:46:26.776
and we've gone out for consultation with

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.736
our community about that. Again, when

00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.896
you look at it, you need to be able to

00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.896
buy multiple properties in a row to be

00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.295
able to get enough land to go up. So,

00:46:36.319 --> 00:46:38.856
this notion is another fury. And when

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:41.095
housing has been already developed in

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.656
our neighborhoods that are up to four,

00:46:43.680 --> 00:46:45.335
five, six stories and the government is

00:46:45.359 --> 00:46:48.359
advocating four, five, 10, 12 stories,

00:46:48.560 --> 00:46:51.016
it ain't going to happen because the

00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:53.416
horse has bolted in many of these areas.

00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.440
So I find this a little bit difficult to

00:46:56.720 --> 00:46:59.335
to comprehend when we have done all this

00:46:59.359 --> 00:47:00.536
work unlike some of the other

00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:03.176
municipalities um to our north and to

00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:05.656
our south who are screaming blue murder

00:47:05.680 --> 00:47:07.575
that the sky is going to fall. That's

00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.136
because they have been um derelict in

00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:12.376
their duty to not develop their own

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:14.376
housing strategy. Stonington has done

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.400
this. We've proven it. Our community, as

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.095
was demonstrated tonight, have clearly

00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.016
said, "We're okay with Stonington's

00:47:21.040 --> 00:47:24.040
plan. We need this to go ahead. Um and

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:25.736
we need to show the state government

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.176
that we are happy with our housing

00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:29.095
strategy. We are happy with our targets.

00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.536
Um there are some areas that can

00:47:30.560 --> 00:47:32.295
accommodate additional growth, which

00:47:32.319 --> 00:47:35.256
we've spoken about before. Um but we

00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.055
don't want this massive change that will

00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.079
have a negative impact on our community.

00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.976
Thank you, Councilman. Council Chery.

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.616
Thank you, Mayor. Um so I'd like to

00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:48.216
really commend our strategic planning

00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:50.696
team. I know Tom's team um on the

00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:52.216
advocacy they've been doing in relation

00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:53.656
to the state government activities

00:47:53.680 --> 00:47:55.335
program, doing letter drops to the

00:47:55.359 --> 00:47:57.256
entire municipality,

00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.896
um offering webinars, dropins, in

00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:02.376
person, online, newsletters, social

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.176
media. Um I really um think they've done

00:48:05.200 --> 00:48:07.095
an excellent job to try to get the word

00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:08.696
out to implore our community to look at

00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:11.176
the reforms and educating them on what's

00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:13.896
being proposed. The changes represent a

00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.256
significant transformation to our

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.016
neighborhoods. Um yet the evidence

00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:20.040
behind what their moves and agenda is is

00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:21.736
not clear or apparent. We haven't seen

00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.055
built core modeling or sunlight testing

00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.456
or heritage impact analysis or wind

00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.480
studies any of that kind of um um

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.256
evidence that would demonstrate how

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:32.936
these proposals would actually work on

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.736
the ground and if this analysis existed

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.416
it should have been shared with the

00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.256
community during consultation and

00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.280
without it this meaningful engagement is

00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.696
really difficult. Um I had concerns with

00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:46.856
the state's approach in that 5we

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.256
engagement period for a community of

00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.136
more than 40,000 people in Souinda with

00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:53.815
the first phase of consultation only

00:48:53.839 --> 00:48:56.839
producing 40 responses just is quite

00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.960
amazing to me in this day and age. Um so

00:49:00.319 --> 00:49:02.456
this genuine engagement suggests that

00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.376
even process move too quickly for people

00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.216
to properly understand the impacts.

00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:07.736
there's a mismatch between the

00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.760
principles and the proposals and um yeah

00:49:11.359 --> 00:49:14.359
so um I think that what we've been doing

00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.480
um um in our submission talks about the

00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.535
really good planning principles that our

00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.055
team have done the work on on how we're

00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:23.496
going to create these sunny streets

00:49:23.520 --> 00:49:25.815
protection of our heritage character

00:49:25.839 --> 00:49:27.896
keeping the sky views and protecting our

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.920
residential amenity um our own modeling

00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.776
suggests a lot of the outcomes that the

00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.535
state government are proposing may not

00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.616
even be achieved at the proposed That's

00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:39.416
the scale. So, we've done our rigorous

00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.176
strategic planning and long form

00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:42.936
testing. We've done the work. We we're

00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.960
going to exceed the targets. Um and our

00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:49.319
submission also um  looks at those

00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.496
proposed changes from state are actually

00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:52.936
going to have impacts for council own

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.960
land. So, as part of our submission, um

00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.976
um we're going to make we really want to

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.000
um ensure council doesn't um  be

00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:02.616
liable for windfall gains tax or

00:50:02.640 --> 00:50:04.535
disadvantage us in any way of providing

00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.559
community uses or um for public open

00:50:07.839 --> 00:50:10.295
space. So, um yeah, I really support

00:50:10.319 --> 00:50:13.319
this position um and our response um in

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.216
continuating continuing to advocate for

00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:19.240
our residents and um our existing 

00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.976
controls and strategic work that we've

00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.776
done. Thank you, councelor Chery. Other

00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.736
speakers to the motion council

00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:28.696
conference.

00:50:28.720 --> 00:50:30.456
Thank you.

00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.376
First of all, thank you officers for the

00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:35.176
huge amount of work you've done.

00:50:35.200 --> 00:50:37.575
It's no small.

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.496
 Stonington has an award-winning plan

00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:40.856
that should be adopted in full by the

00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:42.456
state government. Yet, the state

00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.376
government is clearly wasting more money

00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.376
pursuing a worse outcome for our

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.936
residents. Only this state government

00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.776
spends more money on a worse outcome.

00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.800
Our plan delivers 67,000 houses, 17,000

00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.575
more than the poultry state government

00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.736
target.

00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.055
Our plan protects heritage and the state

00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.776
government destroys them. Our plan

00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.095
spreads housing out sustainably. The

00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.696
state government crams it above train

00:51:08.720 --> 00:51:11.416
stations, making old Coloon look

00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.416
spouses.

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.575
Our plan protects City amenity and the

00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.335
state government removes our green

00:51:17.359 --> 00:51:20.055
amenity. And the cherry on top of all of

00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.936
this, to help fund this worst outcome,

00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.776
the state government is taxing us and

00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.800
future house homeowners for it.

00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:30.936
The state government is continuing to

00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:32.936
leech off council rates now resoning

00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.960
some parkland to residential.

00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:37.416
Should works on this parkland be

00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.976
undertaken, we may even get a tax bill.

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:41.736
The state government's actions are

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.216
opposite of their words.

00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:45.896
This comes after this council shut down

00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.656
the overzealous leeching of the state

00:51:47.680 --> 00:51:49.976
government on our taxpayers

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.496
by stopping government buildings from

00:51:51.520 --> 00:51:53.496
getting free rubbish collection off our

00:51:53.520 --> 00:51:55.815
rate packs. The infrastructure

00:51:55.839 --> 00:51:57.896
contribution payment, which some say

00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.696
will be funding the SRO, will only make

00:52:00.720 --> 00:52:02.776
house prices more expensive and do the

00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.456
opposite of what these objectives are

00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.016
trying to do. is reported to be up to

00:52:07.040 --> 00:52:10.040
$34,000 extra for some apartments,

00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.095
forcing buyers to buy, sorry, forcing

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.119
borrowers to borrow just to pay tax.

00:52:17.680 --> 00:52:19.416
The state government's plan is worse for

00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.335
Stunnington. It's worse for existing

00:52:21.359 --> 00:52:22.936
residents and it's worse for future

00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:24.936
homeowners. I strongly urge the state

00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.575
government to adopt our

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.496
Thank you, councelor Humps and speakers,

00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:30.856
councelor Davis.

00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:33.256
Thank you, Mayor.

00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.280
 my first comment  is that um it

00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.376
seems the state government needs

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.400
reminding that around 75% of housing in

00:52:41.680 --> 00:52:43.736
the Stonington municipality consists of

00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.295
medium to higher density dwellings. From

00:52:46.319 --> 00:52:48.295
small unit developments, town houses to

00:52:48.319 --> 00:52:50.055
apartment buildings, this council has

00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.055
facilitated these developments over many

00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.535
decades. So it's a fallacy the state

00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:56.936
government perpetuates that so-called

00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.016
libies are preventing development in

00:52:59.040 --> 00:53:01.416
stalling. The premier has often referred

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.440
to this acronym  in describing what

00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.176
the government is proposing. As detailed

00:53:07.200 --> 00:53:10.055
on page 72 of the report in the Chapel

00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.216
Street activity area, there are

00:53:12.240 --> 00:53:14.136
currently more than 35 permits for

00:53:14.160 --> 00:53:15.896
multi-unit developments that have not

00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.535
yet begun construction, which represents

00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.456
over 3,000 dwellings. Well, that's

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.295
beyond the council's control when

00:53:22.319 --> 00:53:24.616
developers won't build them. But let's

00:53:24.640 --> 00:53:26.776
get back to the Ninjas, the acronym for

00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:28.776
not in my backyard, which has become an

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.936
insult directed at communities that want

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.535
to say in what's being built in their

00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.696
suburbs. Although I discovered it could

00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:36.696
be worse. In UK there's an acronym

00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:39.095
called Bernard which stands build

00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.055
absolutely nothing anywhere near anyone

00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.936
which does not describe stop.

00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:46.936
For the most part, residents in this

00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.416
municipality who initially objected to

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:51.335
neighborhood developments have

00:53:51.359 --> 00:53:53.575
eventually engaged cooperatively with

00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.496
developers to find compromises to

00:53:55.520 --> 00:53:57.656
protect their amenity. The mediation

00:53:57.680 --> 00:53:59.896
process at BCAT has also been a very

00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.616
successful one. As has been already

00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:04.535
articulated so well, our planning

00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.535
officers have prepared a submission that

00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.376
aligns with the stated outcomes and

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.736
principles of the state government's

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.136
proposal and has robust evidence to

00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:13.736
support council's modeling of an

00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.760
additional 67,000 dwellings as already

00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:18.936
been stated at 17,000 more than the

00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.256
government's stated goal. While the

00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.016
government claims it will maintain the

00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:25.496
existing heritage overlays, how can we

00:54:25.520 --> 00:54:27.176
be sure when the proposed changes

00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:29.416
intrude on the heritage overlays as in

00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.440
the plans that we see? An example is the

00:54:32.720 --> 00:54:35.575
gas boy estate in my ward which will be

00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.736
adversely impacted by the nearby

00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.376
Corfield train line. If I read the maps

00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.400
and as does my constituency as I do, I'm

00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:45.815
only mentioning that because my

00:54:45.839 --> 00:54:48.376
colleague  takes issue with my concern

00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.535
about heritage.

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.559
So the in the 1880s the land boom

00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:55.976
created many Victorian style homes until

00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.136
construction stalled in the 1890s

00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:00.136
depression. Later the turn of the

00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:02.456
century inspired the coveted Federation

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.456
Queen Anne style epitomized by the

00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.480
reception venue the Gable built in 192

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.976
whose garden was designed by William

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.616
Bill Foil who also designed the Royal

00:55:12.640 --> 00:55:14.936
Botanic Gardens. There are so many more

00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.095
fascinating stories about this precinct

00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.095
which envelops our magnificent central

00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.119
park when Mulvin Council bought 19 acres

00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:25.240
of the gas estate in 196. It's an insult

00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:28.136
to be dubbed Nimbies because we respect

00:55:28.160 --> 00:55:30.136
the history of our municipality and wish

00:55:30.160 --> 00:55:32.616
to preserve it. Surely any community is

00:55:32.640 --> 00:55:34.376
entitled to have a say in what is built

00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.400
on the doorstep of our lives.

00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:39.496
Thank you, Councelor Davis. Other

00:55:39.520 --> 00:55:41.896
speakers.

00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.535
So, I just want to add um someone who

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.696
sat around this table. I ran for council

00:55:46.720 --> 00:55:48.456
because of planning, very frustrated

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:50.295
with um where I saw planning and that

00:55:50.319 --> 00:55:53.319
was 25 years ago. And this was when

00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.295
a third three stories in your street

00:55:56.319 --> 00:55:58.696
would throw the whole street bring the

00:55:58.720 --> 00:56:00.696
whole street together to object um

00:56:00.720 --> 00:56:03.720
resulting in you know um council

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.760
meetings, VCAD hearings and so forth

00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:10.616
and council we acknowledged as a

00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:13.640
community as you very um cleverly said

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:16.775
councelor Davis that people came on

00:56:16.799 --> 00:56:18.456
board. They understood that we had to

00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:19.896
accept that we have a growing

00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.616
population. We need to offer diversity

00:56:22.640 --> 00:56:24.936
of housing because we do have residents

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:26.295
as they get older that do want to

00:56:26.319 --> 00:56:29.319
downsize and stay um and stay and age in

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:33.000
place. And we've done that. We've done

00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:35.335
so much work over decades and I know

00:56:35.359 --> 00:56:36.775
that there are councils around this

00:56:36.799 --> 00:56:38.295
table. Councelor Davis, you're one of

00:56:38.319 --> 00:56:39.736
them that's been involved in all their

00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:41.896
strategic work. Councelor Clasaris,

00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:43.496
Council Stefanopoulos, and I'm talking

00:56:43.520 --> 00:56:46.520
back 10, 15 years ago when we started

00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:50.040
identifying those sites on main roads

00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.815
that would protect most importantly

00:56:53.839 --> 00:56:56.696
protect those beautiful side streets and

00:56:56.720 --> 00:56:59.656
that fine grain architecture that we've

00:56:59.680 --> 00:57:02.616
that makes our City so beautiful. And I

00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:05.640
feel like now this is just all of that

00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.535
hard work, all of those hundreds and

00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.416
hundreds of hours, probably thousands of

00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:14.216
hours of councilor's time and office

00:57:14.240 --> 00:57:17.176
time putting together ongoing strategic

00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:19.416
assessments not just in planning but

00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.815
also around heritage, neighborhood

00:57:21.839 --> 00:57:24.136
character, um future planning where we

00:57:24.160 --> 00:57:26.376
want parks, public open space, where we

00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.295
want to acquire sites to increase our

00:57:28.319 --> 00:57:30.616
open space to where the sites we've

00:57:30.640 --> 00:57:33.640
identified. It's all been wasted. We've

00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:36.136
done with the probably I'd say the one

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:37.736
of the few councils, if not the only

00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.896
council that did the work, did the work

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:41.335
early. I think back to I think it was

00:57:41.359 --> 00:57:43.095
called Plan Melbourne when I got here.

00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.896
It evolved to Melbourne 2030 and now

00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.775
it's Melbourne 2050 and we did it and

00:57:48.799 --> 00:57:51.575
the proof is there. 17,000 more

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.599
properties have been identified um over

00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:55.896
and beyond what the government's

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.616
expecting. So may leave us alone. We've

00:57:58.640 --> 00:58:01.176
done it and we did it with consultation.

00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:03.335
We did it to recognize what's great

00:58:03.359 --> 00:58:05.335
about our City and what areas could be

00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:07.496
further improved. And to be sitting here

00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:10.295
now thinking that our residents are not

00:58:10.319 --> 00:58:12.376
going to have appeal rights, that they

00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.136
can come home and the housing store is

00:58:14.160 --> 00:58:16.456
gone and there's nothing they can do

00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.016
about it. and to lose that amenity. And

00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:22.040
for for many who have invested um and

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.856
it's been a lifelong dream of theirs to

00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:26.856
live in this area to have that ripped

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:28.216
out from underneath them and those

00:58:28.240 --> 00:58:30.775
rights and and just that sense of that

00:58:30.799 --> 00:58:33.496
lack of security and of knowing that

00:58:33.520 --> 00:58:35.815
they've got protections around the most

00:58:35.839 --> 00:58:37.976
valuable resource, their home, um is

00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.376
just absolutely heartbreaking. And when

00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.295
you look in the sector, as councelor

00:58:42.319 --> 00:58:44.055
Davis said, there are so many permits

00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:45.496
that are being granted, no one's

00:58:45.520 --> 00:58:47.335
building them. You've just got to walk

00:58:47.359 --> 00:58:49.095
around and look at the vacant sites in

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.496
the City because there the money's not

00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:53.976
there. There's economic conditions in

00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.000
search of time. Thank you. And um it's

00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.136
it it's not that councils aren't doing

00:59:00.160 --> 00:59:02.535
the work is that the there is no the

00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:03.896
development industry is not in a

00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.775
position to build on those sites. Um,

00:59:06.799 --> 00:59:08.295
for those who haven't watched the

00:59:08.319 --> 00:59:10.216
Netflix series of the lost City of

00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:13.176
Melbourne, um, I suggest you do because

00:59:13.200 --> 00:59:14.936
this is where we're heading to. All of

00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.960
that again of what happened decades ago

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.856
where we saw so many beautiful buildings

00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.256
destroyed and that's where I I feel that

00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.256
we're heading in this instance. And I

00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.016
just cannot understand for the life of

00:59:27.040 --> 00:59:28.856
me when we followed all of the

00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:31.880
directions over decades to do what we've

00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:33.416
been instructed to do. We've done it

00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:34.616
properly. We've done it with

00:59:34.640 --> 00:59:36.775
consultation and we've done we've made

00:59:36.799 --> 00:59:38.616
the right choices for our community and

00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:41.016
here we are with just a blanket rule

00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:43.095
that is just going to decimate

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.119
Stonington. I'll leave it at that.

00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.696
Um  speakers from motion councelor

00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:53.720
Healey. Thank you. Um so as um mentioned

00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.176
before I spent my weekend walking the

00:59:57.200 --> 00:59:59.416
streets of South Yara and I could see

00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.736
activity centers, I saw homes. I saw

01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:03.575
history and I saw people who really felt

01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.896
they were being blindsided. Most people

01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.055
have absolutely no idea that state

01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.376
government was planning to reszone 100%

01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:13.256
of South Ward for four to six story

01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.575
development. This isn't planning. This

01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.295
is essentially bureaucratic closing. Um

01:00:18.319 --> 01:00:21.319
a panicked urban planner not one of ours

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.656
for us called me today and said that

01:00:23.680 --> 01:00:26.680
they are acting like dictators. Um and

01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:29.016
you know they they have they've ignored

01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:30.535
our research. They've spat on our

01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:32.136
community consultation. They've decided

01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:33.416
to throw our neighborhoods underneath

01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.136
the bus. And make no mistake, they have

01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:38.616
overtly targeted Stonington. If you look

01:00:38.640 --> 01:00:40.936
at the numbers, we represent less than

01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.960
1% of urban Melbourne's land. Yet 33% of

01:00:45.359 --> 01:00:47.575
the entire state's activity center

01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:50.216
program impacts fall right here in

01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:53.016
Stoington. And 70% of our entire

01:00:53.040 --> 01:00:55.095
municipality will be impacted by these

01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.496
changes. So think about that again. 1%

01:00:57.520 --> 01:01:00.520
of the land and 33% of the burden. That

01:01:00.799 --> 01:01:03.799
isn't an accident. That's a hit job. And

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:06.295
it gets worse. While they demand that

01:01:06.319 --> 01:01:08.295
you sacrifice your son and your streets,

01:01:08.319 --> 01:01:09.976
they're carving out little deals for

01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.136
their mates. So market rate forprofit

01:01:12.160 --> 01:01:13.976
private developments on homes Victoria

01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.616
sites in South Yara and Karan are being

01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:18.456
exempted from paying infrastructure

01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:20.775
contributions. That's a multi-million

01:01:20.799 --> 01:01:22.535
dollar loophole. They're letting big

01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.376
developers build massive towers without

01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:25.815
paying a scent for the parks and

01:01:25.839 --> 01:01:27.496
community infrastructure our new

01:01:27.520 --> 01:01:29.656
residents will desperately need. So they

01:01:29.680 --> 01:01:32.680
get a profit and we get impacted. They

01:01:32.799 --> 01:01:35.016
talk about sunny streets in their glossy

01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:38.040
brochures, but our 3D modeling proves

01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.055
that it's a lie. Independent testing

01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:41.976
shows that 8 to 12 story buildings in

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.376
our streets will create unacceptable

01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.016
levels of overshadowing. They tell us

01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:49.095
about or actually they ask us in their

01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.119
engage Victoria um questionnaire about

01:01:52.319 --> 01:01:54.616
what our transport barriers might be

01:01:54.640 --> 01:01:56.376
while they have slashed train

01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.696
frequencies from South Station and

01:01:58.720 --> 01:02:00.616
refused to connect us to the Metro

01:02:00.640 --> 01:02:03.640
Tunnel. They ask us about infrastructure

01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:05.575
while knowing that we have the second

01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.295
lowest amount of open space in Victoria.

01:02:08.319 --> 01:02:10.295
They aren't even following the advice of

01:02:10.319 --> 01:02:12.456
their own experts who told them that

01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.376
these heights were inappropriate for

01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.095
heritage areas. They're ignoring us and

01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.016
they're also ignoring the consultants

01:02:19.040 --> 01:02:22.040
that they pay for. Ministerial direction

01:02:22.240 --> 01:02:24.376
22 requires planning for climate

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.136
resilience, but their plan allows for

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:28.295
100% site coverage, leaving zero room

01:02:28.319 --> 01:02:30.775
for deep soil planting required for tree

01:02:30.799 --> 01:02:33.016
canopies. This will drop our canopy

01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:35.095
cover on residential land to as low as

01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.256
12.9%.

01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:38.856
They aren't building well designed

01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:40.936
homes, they're building urban heat

01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.896
pockets. Their heights are physically

01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.456
unachievable for our 5 to 6 m lots with

01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.480
unrealistic site consolidation. It's a

01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.376
developer fantasy that results in

01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.376
inefficient floor plates and massive

01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:57.400
bulky walls. So ministers who are not

01:02:58.240 --> 01:03:01.176
here, if you go to step in, do it

01:03:01.200 --> 01:03:03.256
properly. Follow your own design rules.

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.496
Invest in infrastructure that we that

01:03:05.520 --> 01:03:07.416
you know that we need today, not after

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.440
the walls have bolted. But really, I

01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:11.896
think what we're all saying is we want

01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:14.920
you to back off. We already have plans.

01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.920
We have award-winning plans. We have the

01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:20.775
capaCity in our plans to reach your

01:03:20.799 --> 01:03:23.095
targets and exceed them. So, you just

01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.496
need to back off and let us lead.

01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:28.520
Thank you, Council Heers.

01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:30.535
Council Clares.

01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.559
Thank you, Mayor. Um, look, I

01:03:34.160 --> 01:03:36.456
have gone through this in my in my ward

01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:38.456
through the Chadston activity center

01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.775
plan. , I think that commenced back in

01:03:40.799 --> 01:03:43.799
2024. So, um, this has been a topic of

01:03:44.240 --> 01:03:45.976
discussion in my ward for quite some

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:47.256
time and we've already done our

01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.416
submission and the draft plans out and

01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.335
so we're at a different stage and that

01:03:51.359 --> 01:03:53.416
that's part of stage one or trench one,

01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.575
whatever the state's calling it,

01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.256
tanch one and tonight we're obviously

01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:57.815
talking about

01:03:57.839 --> 01:03:58.376
stage two,

01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.400
trench two. Um but we are seeing some

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.136
consistent issues which do worry me. you

01:04:04.160 --> 01:04:06.055
know, as part of the Chadston activity

01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.456
center plan, the engagement we did,

01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.295
discussions we had around this table,

01:04:10.319 --> 01:04:12.295
formation of vaccination and whatnot,

01:04:12.319 --> 01:04:14.136
the same issues that have been raised

01:04:14.160 --> 01:04:17.160
tonight, 18 odd months later, um gosh,

01:04:18.160 --> 01:04:20.216
maybe even close to 2 years later, we're

01:04:20.240 --> 01:04:22.696
raising again. The lack of partnership,

01:04:22.720 --> 01:04:25.720
the lack of genuine engagement, um

01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:29.335
feeling a bit like council not being

01:04:29.359 --> 01:04:32.359
listened to. um I don't understand it

01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:33.976
when we have done the work and I

01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:35.496
wouldn't have thought it would save the

01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:37.656
state government some money or you know

01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:40.055
I mean our door is open why don't they

01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:41.656
come and meet with us why don't they try

01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:44.295
to collaborate with us more so I I

01:04:44.319 --> 01:04:45.896
disagree with councelor Healey I don't

01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:47.656
think our message should be back off I

01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:48.856
actually think it should be please

01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.656
partner with us please work with us um

01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:53.416
because we've done the work we've spoken

01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.656
to our community over a number of years

01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:58.136
 Mayor you outlined just some of the

01:04:58.160 --> 01:05:00.136
strategic documents that we've

01:05:00.160 --> 01:05:03.160
that we've drafted in response to state

01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:05.575
state government mandates. And let's be

01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:07.256
honest, it's Labour and Liberal both

01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.015
sides of politics on their whole state

01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:10.696
government have done these sorts of

01:05:10.720 --> 01:05:12.616
things. It is not just this state

01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:13.896
government.

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.335
So I think there needs to be more

01:05:15.359 --> 01:05:17.256
collaboration. Not asking the state

01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:19.015
government to go away. And I also don't

01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:20.616
think that that mentality is going to

01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:22.376
get us very far. We want them to listen

01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:24.696
to us. Um, we need to we need to be

01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:26.535
engaging in a respectful and

01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.256
constructive manner, not obstructive and

01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.335
super negative. Um, and you know,

01:05:31.359 --> 01:05:32.775
something I've seen that's I'm finding

01:05:32.799 --> 01:05:34.775
quite concerning is some of the social

01:05:34.799 --> 01:05:37.416
media commentary is completely incorrect

01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:39.976
and some of that has been spread by by

01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.136
my colleagues such as that heritage

01:05:42.160 --> 01:05:44.616
overlays will be destroyed as Council

01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:46.616
Humphre also said tonight. That's just

01:05:46.640 --> 01:05:48.376
not true. It is on the state

01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:50.136
government's website that heritage

01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:52.616
overlays will remain intact. It's there.

01:05:52.640 --> 01:05:53.976
It's in black and white. I looked at it.

01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.736
I read it 2 weeks ago. I pulled it up on

01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.815
my computer tonight. It's still there.

01:05:57.839 --> 01:06:00.136
Do we want more certainty about that?

01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:02.696
100%. But it is already there and out

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:04.136
there. And I haven't heard the state

01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:05.976
government say that they're going to run

01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:07.656
over heritage overlays. They are saying

01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:09.575
the opposite. So just my point with that

01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:11.335
is that we need to be careful about the

01:06:11.359 --> 01:06:12.775
information that we're spreading to our

01:06:12.799 --> 01:06:14.616
community. It needs to be factually

01:06:14.640 --> 01:06:16.616
accurate and honest so that the

01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:19.095
community can come on this ride with us.

01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.335
Um because we need to keep making noise.

01:06:21.359 --> 01:06:23.496
We're not going away, but we really need

01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:24.936
the state government to come to the

01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.936
table because, as you've all said,

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.335
17,000 more dwellings can be achieved in

01:06:29.359 --> 01:06:31.656
our plan across the City versus what the

01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:33.815
state government has put forward across

01:06:33.839 --> 01:06:36.136
trench one and trench 2.

01:06:36.160 --> 01:06:38.696
Thank you, councelor Casares. Um,

01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:39.976
councelor Hopper,

01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.456
thank you. I'll be the last person to

01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:43.256
speak, I guess.

01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.896
Not necessarily. We have councelor Bell

01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:47.656
want to speak as well.

01:06:47.680 --> 01:06:50.376
Um well look I celebrate the council

01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.976
putting forward a submission to this

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.136
process um and representing the views of

01:06:54.160 --> 01:06:56.376
our residents. Um but as should be the

01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.456
case with any advocacy approach. I would

01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.856
hope that we wouldn't simplify this to a

01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.335
matter of us and them. Um but as has

01:07:03.359 --> 01:07:05.575
been pointed out work collaboratively

01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:07.416
and start by agreeing where our values

01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.055
and goals align. As I think everyone has

01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:11.896
mentioned in this case, council and the

01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.216
state have a shared goal of delivering

01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:16.295
more homes so that people can live in

01:07:16.319 --> 01:07:18.376
the best part of the best City in the

01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:20.535
world. according to a timeout rating

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.015
published only last week. At this stage

01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:24.535
of consultation, the department is

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:26.456
relying on us to provide feedback from

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.535
our community that is as detailed as

01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:31.095
possible that can inform more detailed

01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.256
mapping in the next release that drills

01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:35.976
down to specific sites and identifies

01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:37.656
which are large enough for major

01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:40.055
development opportunity in the activity

01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:42.535
center core and which are smaller or

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.376
have other obstacles and therefore will

01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:45.815
be appropriate to lower scum

01:07:45.839 --> 01:07:48.216
development. We've seen from the example

01:07:48.240 --> 01:07:50.376
of the Midri and Esna North activity

01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.775
centers in phase one that when the final

01:07:52.799 --> 01:07:54.936
stage of mapping was released only the

01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.095
largest sites were identified for higher

01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.055
density development. It's not useful to

01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:01.815
anyone for council to scare the

01:08:01.839 --> 01:08:04.136
community into believing that 12story

01:08:04.160 --> 01:08:05.896
developments will be developed where

01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.656
they don't fit. That simply won't

01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:10.055
happen. And I know that only recently

01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.295
council approved an 11story development

01:08:12.319 --> 01:08:14.616
where the officer recommendation was 12

01:08:14.640 --> 01:08:16.536
on a tour road site with heritage

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.376
elements where our submission now says

01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:20.456
that heights of 10 to 12 stories would

01:08:20.480 --> 01:08:22.135
be inappropriate.

01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:23.496
Points around the importance of

01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:25.255
integrated planning for social and

01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.775
community infrastructure are very

01:08:26.799 --> 01:08:28.856
important. But unlike other councils,

01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.536
Stomington does not have a community

01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:32.856
infrastructure needs and gaps analysis

01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:34.456
which would put us in the front foot in

01:08:34.480 --> 01:08:36.695
our advocacy. The section on social and

01:08:36.719 --> 01:08:38.775
affordable housing doesn't recognize the

01:08:38.799 --> 01:08:40.856
significant increases in social and

01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:42.376
affordable housing that have already

01:08:42.400 --> 01:08:43.976
been delivered and announced by the

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.000
state government in South Yara and Pan.

01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.096
We also need to avoid scaring the

01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:51.576
community unnecessarily. claims the

01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.016
development will take place quote

01:08:53.040 --> 01:08:54.936
regardless of heritage overlays and

01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:57.255
without any new infrastructure are

01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:59.335
flatly put to bed in the engagement

01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.416
materials which commit in black and

01:09:01.440 --> 01:09:03.496
white that heritage controls will not

01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.016
change and that there will be

01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:07.815
contributions to infrastructure

01:09:07.839 --> 01:09:09.735
with regard to fiveweek engagement

01:09:09.759 --> 01:09:12.456
period I don't accept that it's as

01:09:12.480 --> 01:09:14.295
simple as saying that it's contributed

01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.319
to a lower response rate um in the areas

01:09:17.759 --> 01:09:19.576
that being canvased in the second round

01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:20.856
activity centers

01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:22.775
As rate payers living in an activity

01:09:22.799 --> 01:09:25.416
center, my husband and I both received

01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:28.295
address letters  along with postcards

01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:31.175
um from DTP and from council. I attended

01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:33.175
both of the facetoface sessions for

01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.896
South Brand wind centers to hear

01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.376
residents concerns. At those sessions,

01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:39.815
representatives were genuinely

01:09:39.839 --> 01:09:41.655
interested in all the feedback that they

01:09:41.679 --> 01:09:44.456
received. Indeed, the engaged object

01:09:44.480 --> 01:09:46.695
website praises Stoington's existing

01:09:46.719 --> 01:09:49.016
work through its activity center plans

01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:51.096
that are delivering significant housing

01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:53.335
growth. So, I feel very encouraged that

01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:54.776
the community's feedback has been

01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.175
listened to. I think we can consider the

01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:58.776
possibility that a small number of

01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.016
submissions is a vote of confidence that

01:10:01.040 --> 01:10:03.256
council is an effective advocate for our

01:10:03.280 --> 01:10:05.256
community and also that the

01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:06.776
neighborhoods in the latest round are

01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.776
characterized already by higher density

01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:10.776
living and many residents in those

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:12.695
neighborhoods embrace the idea of more

01:10:12.719 --> 01:10:15.256
housing as long as it's delivered well.

01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:17.816
Thank you councelor Hopper. Um councelor

01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:19.416
Bell did you wish to add anything?

01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:21.175
You're the last remaining counselor.

01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.336
It's up to you.

01:10:23.360 --> 01:10:25.096
No, not at this stage.

01:10:25.120 --> 01:10:26.296
Thank you. Council,

01:10:26.320 --> 01:10:27.816
just a question.

01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:28.456
Yes.

01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:30.536
Um I'm just curious to know in the

01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:32.296
interest of transparency that council

01:10:32.320 --> 01:10:34.215
hopper could make it clear that she's a

01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:37.239
member standing as a member for in the

01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:41.400
next upcoming bi-election.

01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.520
Sorry.

01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:49.896
Councelor Davis, please sit down.

01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.920
I'm going to just um councelor council

01:10:53.679 --> 01:10:55.256
is going to get you to refer to which

01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:58.280
part of the Thank you.

01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:09.416
I consider it offensive madam there may

01:11:09.440 --> 01:11:11.976
under 5517

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.496
although I might be looking at an old

01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:14.135
version.

01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.016
No that's correct.

01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:16.856
That's correct. I think it's offensive

01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.215
that it's got nothing to do with the

01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.215
agenda item and it's a declaration that

01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.215
council offers already made previously

01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:23.416
in the chamber.

01:11:23.440 --> 01:11:24.776
Council Davis, I'm going to rule on the

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.175
point of order and I agree um that it's

01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:29.736
not that it is a valid point of order.

01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.655
So, can we please limit it to the debate

01:11:31.679 --> 01:11:33.816
that's at hand which we've just about

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.840
concluded and I'm going to wrap up. So,

01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:39.896
all right.

01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:41.736
No, I'm just I'm ruling on it. I'm now

01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:43.816
going to go to councelor Stefanopoulos

01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:45.896
to close the debate. Thank you Mayor

01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:46.215
raised.

01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:47.496
I will respond to some of the matters

01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:49.336
that are raised. Um council charter said

01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:51.336
no form modeling and sunlight testing

01:11:51.360 --> 01:11:53.576
and wind analysis to back their zoning

01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.976
their new zone. Absolutely correct. A

01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:57.976
lot of using the use of the word sunny

01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:59.736
streets and their heights are really as

01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.736
you said are unachievable in some

01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.616
instances. Council Davis said 75% of

01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.056
existing housing in the City of

01:12:06.080 --> 01:12:08.376
Strington is medium to high density. We

01:12:08.400 --> 01:12:09.816
know that which is great. Thank you for

01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.456
pointing that out. as well as we have 35

01:12:12.480 --> 01:12:15.480
permits with 2,000 plus dwellings that

01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.135
have not been acted upon. Hello. That

01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:19.016
doesn't mean that we're not doing

01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:21.256
anything. Council Davis is correct. The

01:12:21.280 --> 01:12:24.280
Mayor said, "No, the Mayor said,

01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.616
um, people came on board and accepted

01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:28.135
the changes when you first got onto

01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:29.496
council and when I got onto council,

01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.655
when councelor Davis got on council, ,

01:12:31.679 --> 01:12:33.256
the three elder statesmen on the board

01:12:33.280 --> 01:12:35.496
here and we took them along on the

01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.520
journey and it it was a bit of tethering

01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.016
in here and there, but we did it. And as

01:12:41.040 --> 01:12:44.040
you said, we let the main roads go in

01:12:44.480 --> 01:12:46.376
our areas, especially in Council Davis's

01:12:46.400 --> 01:12:48.536
area and in yours to protect the

01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.256
hinterland as you outlined." So 16,000

01:12:51.280 --> 01:12:54.280
dwellings as you said additional to what

01:12:54.480 --> 01:12:55.976
the government has given us as a target.

01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.655
Councelor Healey said they've ignored

01:12:57.679 --> 01:12:59.655
our research which is absolutely correct

01:12:59.679 --> 01:13:01.336
and we have the second lowest amount of

01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:03.096
public open space. I mean these are

01:13:03.120 --> 01:13:05.816
facts folks. Council Pasar said lack of

01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.576
partnership and engagement where we have

01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.976
done all the bloody work. Absolutely

01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:11.576
correct. More collaboration, more

01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.600
respectful and constructive um um 

01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:17.416
consultation and engagement with us will

01:13:17.440 --> 01:13:20.056
be appreciated. Council Hopper actively

01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:21.736
said that Heritage Oak will remain

01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.056
intact, but we want more certainty, more

01:13:24.080 --> 01:13:26.536
housing so long as it is delivered well

01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.536
and in the world's best City. According

01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.560
to Time App magazine, it's about robust

01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.215
evidence thanks to council planning

01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:36.296
staff who've done all the work and we

01:13:36.320 --> 01:13:39.320
will continue as we always have to

01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:41.416
advocate for our residents. Thank you,

01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:41.896
Mayor.

01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:43.496
Thank you, Council Stefanopoulos. I'll

01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.175
now put it to the vote. All those in

01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.256
favor

01:13:47.280 --> 01:13:49.496
and that's unanimous as to be expected.

01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.576
Thank you councilors. Councilors that

01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:53.655
now concludes our general business for

01:13:53.679 --> 01:13:56.056
tonight's um agenda. We now move to

01:13:56.080 --> 01:13:57.655
items of correspondence. Is there any

01:13:57.679 --> 01:13:59.336
items of correspondence to table this

01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:00.856
evening?

01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:02.856
There being none um tableing petitions

01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:04.536
and joint leaders. Council Davis, you

01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.096
have a petition.

01:14:07.120 --> 01:14:10.120
 yes, I have a petition  which

01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:12.856
reads, "Install a new street light on

01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.856
the power hole outside one children's

01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.336
road model to improve visibility at

01:14:17.360 --> 01:14:19.256
night and the safety of residents and

01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:22.280
their property."  signed by five

01:14:22.719 --> 01:14:25.719
people who live in the street and thank

01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:28.376
you councelor Davis. So I now have a

01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:31.256
mover and a second to petition moved. Do

01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:32.456
you want to second your petition?

01:14:32.480 --> 01:14:33.416
Councelor Davis.

01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:35.816
Yes.

01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.536
All right. So, second. All right. Um any

01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.096
objections? All right. I'll now um all

01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:43.736
those in favor of um accepting that

01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.296
petition that's carried unanimously,

01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:49.320
councilors. Um thank you. Um there's no

01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:52.056
notices of motion that I'm aware of.

01:14:52.080 --> 01:14:53.816
Just checking. And council, we now move

01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.135
to reports by councilors. And we have

01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:58.616
three reports um presented here this

01:14:58.640 --> 01:14:59.816
evening. So, we'll go through them one

01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:01.416
by one. So, the first being a record of

01:15:01.440 --> 01:15:03.496
the briefing session on the 2nd of March

01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.215
2026. Can I have a moder and a second

01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.456
for um adopting that? Thank you

01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:11.016
councelor Healey second.

01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:13.416
Councelor Chhatery um councelor Healey

01:15:13.440 --> 01:15:15.816
anything councelor Chhatery any other

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:17.976
councilors on now to vote. All those in

01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.896
favor of adopting those minutes. Thank

01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:21.256
you. Council's been then moved to the

01:15:21.280 --> 01:15:23.496
minutes of the order committee dated 27

01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:25.655
of November 2025. We have a mover and a

01:15:25.679 --> 01:15:27.175
second

01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:28.616
moved. Councelor Davis seconded.

01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:31.576
Councelor Humphre is any speakers to the

01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.600
motion any point really under the

01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:37.096
section 54 of the local government act

01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:39.256
the CEO must ensure preparation

01:15:39.280 --> 01:15:41.096
maintenance and genes and reports of the

01:15:41.120 --> 01:15:43.016
audit committee and this is based on the

01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:45.336
27th November 25

01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:47.416
thank you councel Davis councelor

01:15:47.440 --> 01:15:50.056
Humphre any speakers to the motion I'll

01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:52.536
now put to the vote all those in favor

01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:54.296
motion's carried unanimously and

01:15:54.320 --> 01:15:55.816
council's been moved to the order risk

01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:57.655
committee self assessment survey

01:15:57.679 --> 01:15:58.616
findings

01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:01.640
Do I have a mover and a second?

01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:04.215
Moved. Seconded. Council

01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:06.616
Davis. The house speaker.

01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:08.056
Thank you. Clarification.

01:16:08.080 --> 01:16:10.856
All right. Thank you. No. All right. Um

01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:12.135
any speakers for the motion? All those

01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:13.655
in favor of adopting those minutes.

01:16:13.679 --> 01:16:15.416
Thank you. All the survey findings.

01:16:15.440 --> 01:16:17.736
Thank you. That's carried unanimously.

01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.135
Councilors, we now move to urgent

01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:21.655
business. Are there any items of urgent

01:16:21.679 --> 01:16:22.536
business?

01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:24.536
Questions to council officers?

01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.560
Did I miss one? I did. Oh, thank you.

01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:29.016
Oh,

01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:30.616
I have a number.

01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.135
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's actually not

01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:33.736
It's Do you know what? It's not in my

01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:36.056
notes. So, it's been chopped off at the

01:16:36.080 --> 01:16:38.135
bottom. So, I'm glad that actually that

01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.695
was a test for councilors to see if that

01:16:40.719 --> 01:16:43.256
wasn't. Thank you. Any any questions to

01:16:43.280 --> 01:16:45.496
council officers? Thank you, councelor

01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.976
Hera. This is our notice. I'm very happy

01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.856
for the director to take that um on

01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.776
notice. Um to the director of

01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.256
environment and infrastructure just in

01:16:55.280 --> 01:16:57.736
response to um submission that was made

01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.616
by a resident this evening. Um, when did

01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:02.776
council last review the fitness for

01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.336
purpose of the twice yearly scheduled

01:17:05.360 --> 01:17:07.816
hard waist service  as compared to the

01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:09.416
approach used by most innocent

01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:12.440
municipalities of the voucher system?

01:17:15.120 --> 01:17:18.120
happy to  respond in part through you

01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.159
may um council  reviews this on an

01:17:22.480 --> 01:17:25.480
ongoing basis and last substantively

01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.520
reviewed this in the in the last two to

01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.896
3 years  and is actively reviewing

01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.215
that again this year.

01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:35.896
You've answered my second question which

01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:37.736
was does council have any future plans

01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.135
to review the fitness of this approach

01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:42.215
soon later this year.

01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.215
Yeah. Yes, it does.  with the

01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:45.655
intention of the report coming to

01:17:45.679 --> 01:17:47.096
council in the middle of the year.

01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:48.616
Wonderful. Thank you.

01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:50.056
Thank you. I thought you didn't have

01:17:50.080 --> 01:17:50.456
any.

01:17:50.480 --> 01:17:53.416
I do, but um my learner colleague has

01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:55.655
asked a question that made me now want

01:17:55.679 --> 01:17:56.695
to ask a question.

01:17:56.719 --> 01:17:57.175
Okay.

01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.199
Um sorry m can I just have confirmation?

01:18:00.320 --> 01:18:03.320
Do we have a ringer and I've got hard

01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:06.920
garbage. Can you come and collect it?

01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.655
Yes, we do. Great.

01:18:09.679 --> 01:18:12.215
Okay. Council Davis, do you have a

01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:13.896
question? Yes, there is a question I've

01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.920
got for you. Um, Mr. Hallway, I do

01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.896
recall. I may well be wrong, but my

01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.776
memory serves me to recall that a survey

01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:25.175
done on this very matter indicated that

01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.896
overwhelmingly residents prefer this

01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.856
method of twice yearly collection and

01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.496
plus another two up collections that we

01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:35.976
can ring up and is correct.

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:36.936
What's the question?

01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.960
Is that correct?

01:18:42.719 --> 01:18:45.016
Can you answer whe that that is correct

01:18:45.040 --> 01:18:48.040
through you may when council lastly

01:18:48.320 --> 01:18:50.776
reviewed the survey  the service the

01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:53.800
hardway service did undertake a survey

01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:56.296
there was a  sentiment from the

01:18:56.320 --> 01:18:59.320
community at the time in support of the

01:18:59.679 --> 01:19:02.679
um by annual  scheduled um blanket

01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:07.159
service as we as we call it um we Do you

01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.536
intend to reservey the community again

01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:11.576
this year?

01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:13.336
All right. I don't want to debate this

01:19:13.360 --> 01:19:15.496
matter. So, can we have some new

01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.520
questions? New topic questions

01:19:22.320 --> 01:19:24.695
may just a question. Do we know the cost

01:19:24.719 --> 01:19:27.719
of the um dial

01:19:29.360 --> 01:19:31.576
notice?

01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:33.976
Notice I'd like to know and I don't

01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.056
Yeah. Thank you. All right. Councilors,

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:37.736
we now know there's no urge of business,

01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:39.336
so we'll move to general business. Any

01:19:39.360 --> 01:19:40.936
other items of general business this

01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:42.776
evening?

01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:44.776
Right. Well, I have a few. So, first and

01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.736
foremost, um thank you to Reese Thomas

01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.616
who um goes through council's archives

01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:52.215
and shares little milestones with us

01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:53.655
along the way to remind us of the

01:19:53.679 --> 01:19:55.496
journey of how we've gotten to this

01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:58.215
particular one. And today um is

01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.056
particular milestone for the City of

01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:02.376
Stonington and it definitely should not

01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:04.135
pass unremarked as um Reese has

01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:05.655
mentioned and it's opportunity that it's

01:20:05.679 --> 01:20:08.296
landed on a council meeting night. So I

01:20:08.320 --> 01:20:09.896
get the chance to mention it on the

01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:12.920
actual day that it fell. So today um 30

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.736
years ago the City of Stonington was

01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:17.816
officially created. So it's when the

01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:20.695
commissioners left after amalgamations

01:20:20.719 --> 01:20:23.719
and a new council was sworn in. Now,

01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:25.576
they hadn't had their first council

01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.215
meeting until the 19th of March, so in

01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:30.616
three days time. But we officially had

01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:32.376
the first council of the City of

01:20:32.400 --> 01:20:35.400
Stonington. Um, and that comprised of

01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:38.440
the late John Chandler, um, OAM, Barry

01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:41.416
Fenton, um, late Barry Fenton, it's

01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:43.096
actually it's quite sad, the late Chris

01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:46.120
G, um, Adam Held, the late Leon Hill,

01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:49.640
Annheed Stockman, Denise Wallish, and

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.920
Ros Wilson. So officially happy 30th

01:20:53.440 --> 01:20:55.496
birthday to the elected um council of

01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:58.215
the City of Stunnington today or well

01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.239
today. Um but yeah from 30th who we

01:21:01.679 --> 01:21:04.376
believe we are 30 years later and having

01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:06.536
had the pleasure I have to say um many

01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:08.856
of us working with those names I've

01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:11.175
mentioned around this table um in this

01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.199
very room. So um so that's the first um

01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:16.776
item of general business. The second one

01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.655
is I had the pleasure of going to the um

01:21:19.679 --> 01:21:21.896
inaugural launch that sorry the um the

01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:24.296
launch of the Mulvin Mars Interub event

01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:25.816
at the Harle Swim Center. They do it

01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.536
every year. They launch it and um um one

01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.135
of the ladies who's involved in that

01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.135
talked about the great initiative that

01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:33.336
we're doing with the City of Sonington

01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:36.360
and Cat's team. um acknowledging um a

01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:38.536
real issue in the community that no one

01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:39.655
likes to talk about and that's

01:21:39.679 --> 01:21:42.679
incontinents and the fact that um 80% of

01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.496
women suffer from incontinence and men

01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:48.376
are not too far behind that statistic.

01:21:48.400 --> 01:21:50.456
So, what they've done is um they've come

01:21:50.480 --> 01:21:53.336
up with a great slogan and um and it's

01:21:53.360 --> 01:21:56.360
called um be happy as opposed to be

01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:58.776
happy, which I think is had me um

01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:01.800
laughing. And  and um councelor um

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:05.736
Davis, your um ward is going to is has

01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:07.416
one of the first public toilets that's

01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:09.576
going to have a beautiful mural and I'll

01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:11.736
um share this around um by a very

01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.760
well-known artist called Cat Cat Tilman.

01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.175
very bright and vibrant. Um nice thing

01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.056
to call out um the issue around

01:22:22.080 --> 01:22:24.536
incontinence and pappy and bringing it

01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.560
to um sort of alertness  in the

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community and also working on a urine

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health campaign with our team here at

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the City of Stonington. So, a very

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innovative way of sharing a message on,

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you know, what typically aren't nice

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buildings, toilet blocks, um, with

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beautiful color colored artwork and also

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getting a key health message across. So,

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I'll just circularize that. Um, please

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feel free feel free to have a look and

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um, reach out if you've got any

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questions. And the final item of general

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business is just to let you know that

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I've been appointed as Mayor to the meal

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advisory panel um by local government

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minister Minister Stos. Um I'm one of 11

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counselors and um that's very um yeah

01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:12.536
very pleased that I can be a part of

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that and represent Stonington um on

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behalf of this local area. So thank you.

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Just letting you know came through on

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Friday. And that's it for me on general

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business. Are there any other items of

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general business councils would like to

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raise? No. Um, there being no

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confidential business, I now declare

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this meeting closed at 8:24 p.m. Thank

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you everyone and have a lovely rest of

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the week.