WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:02.536 Good evening and welcome to the City of 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:04.856 Stonnington council meeting of Monday the 00:00:04.880 --> 00:00:07.880 11th of May 2026. I'm council member of 00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:11.896 the City of Stonnington. We begin by 00:00:11.920 --> 00:00:14.615 reading the statement of reconciliation. 00:00:14.639 --> 00:00:16.536 We are acknowledging that we're meeting 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:19.560 on the traditional lands the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrrung 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:21.976 and Bunurong Peoples of the East Kulin Nations and 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.376 offer our respecty to your Elders past and 00:00:24.400 --> 00:00:26.536 present. We extend that respect to all 00:00:26.560 --> 00:00:28.936 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:30.696 Peoples. We acknowledge the living 00:00:30.720 --> 00:00:32.616 connection to country relationship of 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.176 the land and all living things extending 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:37.736 back tens of thousands of years. We'll 00:00:37.760 --> 00:00:40.760 now move to our statement of commitment. 00:00:40.879 --> 00:00:42.936 We are reminded that as counselors, we 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.016 are bound by our oath of office to 00:00:45.040 --> 00:00:47.496 undertake the duties of counselor in the 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.096 best interest of the people of the City 00:00:49.120 --> 00:00:51.336 of Stonnington and to faithfully and 00:00:51.360 --> 00:00:53.656 impartially carry out the functions, 00:00:53.680 --> 00:00:56.375 powers, authorities, and discretions 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.776 vested in us under the local government 00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:01.800 act and any other burden act. Before we 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.056 introduce council and officers, I'd like 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:06.536 to take this opportunity to remind our 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.496 attendees of the behavioral expectations 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:11.976 a council meetings. Members of the 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.216 public are not permitted to address the 00:01:14.240 --> 00:01:16.216 council may only do so with the consent 00:01:16.240 --> 00:01:19.016 of the chair or by prior arrangement. 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.336 Council provides an opportunity for 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:24.360 public ar public engagement through the 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.455 questions from the community section of 00:01:26.479 --> 00:01:27.896 the meeting which requires 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.135 pre-registration with our governance 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:31.976 team. Any member of the public 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.536 addressing the council must extend due 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.936 courtesy and respect to the council and 00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:38.775 the processes under which it operates 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:41.095 and must take direction from the chair, 00:01:41.119 --> 00:01:44.119 myself whenever called upon to do so. A 00:01:44.320 --> 00:01:45.896 member of the public in attendance at a 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:47.656 council meeting must not disrupt the 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.656 meeting. Any member of the public who 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.216 disrupts the meeting or fails to comply 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:54.135 with the direction I've issued may be 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.135 removed from the council meeting. I'll 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:57.976 now introduce my introduce my fellow 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.735 councils around the table with us this 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:02.759 evening from Orrong Ward, our Deputy 00:02:02.880 --> 00:02:05.496 Mayor, councelor Samantha Choudhury from 00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:06.856 Wattletree Ward, councelor Steve 00:02:06.880 --> 00:02:09.256 Stefanopoulos and councelor Jamie Bell 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.280 from Tooronga Ward and to my right, 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.336 councelor Sally Davis from Hedgely Dene 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:17.575 Ward we have from Como Ward, 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.736 Councelor Meghan Hopper, and from South 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:22.295 Ward councelor Kate Hely. And online 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.295 this evening we have from Toorak Ward 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:26.215 councelor Tom Humphries and from Malvern 00:02:26.239 --> 00:02:29.096 Valley Ward councelor Jami Klisaris. I will 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:30.776 now hand over to our executive manager 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:32.376 of governance and public affairs Mr. 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.016 Xavier Smerdon who will introduce the staff 00:02:35.040 --> 00:02:36.215 that are present here this evening. 00:02:36.239 --> 00:02:37.336 Thank you Xavier. 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.495 Thank you. And through you may behind us 00:02:39.519 --> 00:02:41.176 we have Emily Stockdale senior 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:43.736 governance officer and Evelyn ? governance 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:46.056 officer to your far right is Julia 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:48.136 Gallace, the chief financial officer, 00:02:48.160 --> 00:02:49.736 Kath Harrod the director of planning 00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:51.656 and community, and Anthony Depasquale 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.656 manager of city planning to your far 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.336 left is Simon Holloway, director of 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:56.855 environment and infrastructure, 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.096 Danielle Mazone director organization 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:00.935 capability, and Reece Thomas, the 00:03:00.959 --> 00:03:02.616 coordinator of governance. And to your 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:04.376 immediate right is Dale Dixon, the chief 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:05.976 executive officer. 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.056 All right. Thank you councilors we 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:09.575 now move to apologies for future 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.096 meetings. Are there any apologies for 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.135 future meetings? 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:13.016 Yes, ma'am. 00:03:13.040 --> 00:03:15.016 Yes. I have a apology for two 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:17.176 meetings, the 15th of June and the 29th 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:18.135 of June. 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:19.336 All right. Thank you, Councelor 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.360 Stefanopoulos. Any other requests for 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.616 apologies for future meetings? All 00:03:24.640 --> 00:03:26.456 right. So, I'll ask for a mover in a 00:03:26.480 --> 00:03:28.376 second to grant the absence for council 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.456 Stefanopoulos. 15th of June, 29th of 00:03:30.480 --> 00:03:33.016 June. We have many offers here. 00:03:33.040 --> 00:03:34.536 Councilor Stefanopoulos. Don't take it 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.560 personally. Councelor 00:03:37.760 --> 00:03:40.376 Davis, all those in favor of councelor 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.135 Stefanopoulos leaving us for two 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.616 meetings and I'll note that's carried 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:47.256 unanimously. So, thank you councelor 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.336 Stefanopoulos we will miss you. 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:50.536 Oh, thank you. 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:52.536 all right council we now move to 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.376 adoption and confirmations of minutes of 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.215 previous meetings council we have 00:03:56.239 --> 00:03:58.456 one set of minutes for adoption 00:03:58.480 --> 00:03:59.656 tonight and then the minutes of the 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.575 council meeting held on the 27th of May 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.135 2026. Moved by councelor Choudhury. Do I 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:05.976 have a second? Councelor Davis, 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.215 Councelor Choudhury. Any questions? 00:04:08.239 --> 00:04:10.295 Councelor Davis, any questions, 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.696 comments? Councilors, I'll now put the 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:14.376 motion that we adopt those meetings as 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.935 an actual reflection of the meeting 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.016 of the date of the 27th of April. All 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.935 those in favor 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:22.615 and then carry unanimously. Thank you, 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.639 councilors. Councilors, we now move to 00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:27.976 disclosure by councils of any conflicts 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.056 of interest. All right, councelor Hill. 00:04:30.080 --> 00:04:31.895 Thank you. um like to declare a general 00:04:31.919 --> 00:04:34.776 conflict of interest item 16.1 which is 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.096 unconfidential members of my 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.096 immediate family have a connection to a 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.056 third party that make reference. 00:04:42.080 --> 00:04:44.296 Okay. All right. And um will you be 00:04:44.320 --> 00:04:46.455 absenteeing yourself from the chamber? 00:04:46.479 --> 00:04:49.336 Okay. Thank you. And councelor Chad. 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.976 Um I have a conflict of interest 8.1 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.536 proposed purchase of 131 Union Street 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:56.615 Windsor and lease to Windsor Childcare 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.376 due to family members going to Windsor 00:04:58.400 --> 00:04:58.936 Childcare. 00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:00.536 All right. and your absence that absent 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.216 yourself from the during that item. 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.240 Thank you, Councelor. 00:05:07.440 --> 00:05:09.256 Okay. I just like to acknowledge we 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:10.776 also have a special guest this evening, 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.015 Ryan Bachelor, our MP, the member for 00:05:13.039 --> 00:05:14.936 Southern Metropolitan Region. Sorry, I 00:05:14.960 --> 00:05:15.976 didn't see you sitting there, but 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.536 welcome to our council meeting this 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.015 evening. All right, we now move to 00:05:21.039 --> 00:05:22.536 questions to the council from the 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:24.615 community and we've received two valid 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:26.856 submissions for from the community for 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:27.976 tonight's meeting which will be 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.376 presented in person. So, for the benefit 00:05:30.400 --> 00:05:32.296 of those joining us tonight, I'll 00:05:32.320 --> 00:05:35.015 briefly outline the process we've 00:05:35.039 --> 00:05:37.256 got a newborn baby in the gallery, which 00:05:37.280 --> 00:05:40.280 is very gorgeous so for the benefit 00:05:40.400 --> 00:05:42.216 of those join us tonight, I'll briefly 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:43.895 outline the process. I'll invite the 00:05:43.919 --> 00:05:46.296 submitter by name to move to the 00:05:46.320 --> 00:05:47.816 middle of the gallery. I don't know how 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:50.056 that'll work, but we'll see how we go. 00:05:50.080 --> 00:05:52.056 Um, to address the council, if that 00:05:52.080 --> 00:05:53.175 doesn't work, we'll just do it from 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.096 where you're located. The submitter will 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:56.615 have up to 3 minutes to ask a question 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.015 or make a statement at the 2 and a 00:05:59.039 --> 00:06:00.936 half minute mark, you'll hear the bell 00:06:00.960 --> 00:06:02.936 ring once, and that's to indicate that 00:06:02.960 --> 00:06:05.416 you've got 30 seconds remaining. And at 00:06:05.440 --> 00:06:06.776 the conclusion of the three minutes, you 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.615 hear the bell ring twice, at which point 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.096 um, you need to finish up speaking. In 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.455 accordance with the governor's rules, 00:06:12.479 --> 00:06:14.056 those submissions which relate to items 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:16.295 on tonight's agenda um, will not be 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:17.976 referred to officers for a response. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.336 However, councilors may wish to 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.496 facilitate discussion of the submission 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:23.096 during the discussion for the relevant 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.120 item um that will be on the agenda for 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:27.976 those that are submitters will be 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:29.656 visible and audible to all councils, 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.336 council officers in the gallery and 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.895 audible to the public watching the live 00:06:33.919 --> 00:06:35.816 stream online. 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:37.656 I'll also take the opportunity to remind 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:39.816 submitters to please use the wording of 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:41.656 the presubmitted question or statement 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.295 and to ensure that it remains in line 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.319 with council's mutual respect charter. I 00:06:47.440 --> 00:06:49.656 now invite Warren Williams to read a 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.336 statement in relation to the digital 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.360 parking permit implementation. 00:06:54.479 --> 00:06:55.336 Yes. 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.175 Yes, you can. Thank you. 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.976 Okay 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.000 my questions primarily refer 00:07:03.039 --> 00:07:06.039 sorry to the late submission to the 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.319 council's meeting 30 March table in the 00:07:09.520 --> 00:07:12.520 agenda item 8.1 especially the council's 00:07:12.880 --> 00:07:15.416 consistent use of equity and user pays 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:18.440 as guiding decision making principles. 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:20.776 Such principles have also been applied 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.800 to the draft budget for 2627. 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:26.376 In essence, it is an unfair burden on 00:07:26.400 --> 00:07:28.455 those who do not park to subsidize those 00:07:28.479 --> 00:07:31.479 that do. That is equity. As council 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.216 reference, the 82.5% of stunning 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.615 residents that don't park, subsidizing 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.639 the 27.5% that do park, refer section 3. 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.175 It is therefore important that those 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:44.696 27.5% 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.256 pay for the cost of the service. That is 00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:49.656 called the user pays principle. 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.680 referring to section 64 and 69 that cost 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.216 recovery should be full cost recovery 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.240 delivering a nil subsidy in essence cost 00:07:59.280 --> 00:08:02.056 a dollar pay a dollar this user pays 00:08:02.080 --> 00:08:03.976 principle is demonstrated in the table 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.000 in section 67 with permit fees 00:08:07.039 --> 00:08:10.039 annualized a nil subsidy is achieved 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.295 although the cost of service is 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.136 misleading as it does not take into 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.455 account the benefits of moving to a 00:08:16.479 --> 00:08:19.479 fully automated IT platform Those costs 00:08:19.599 --> 00:08:22.455 are referenced in section 66. 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:24.855 Simply the nil subsidy achieved in 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:27.656 section 67 will turn into a profit 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.680 center from financial year 2027 as the 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.336 cost to serve falls. My first question 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.255 is to those councilors who voted in 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.279 favor of the agenda item 8.1 supporting 00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:41.015 parking fees. Where is the equity and 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.039 the fairness to those 27.5% of residents 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.375 affected by this fee funding what will 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.856 be a growing profit center going forward 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:51.736 whilst the other 82.5% of residents will 00:08:51.760 --> 00:08:53.495 not be asked to contribute to the profit 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:55.495 center. I don't think I've got time for 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:56.616 question two. 00:08:56.640 --> 00:08:59.255 no, sorry. Um but you can come back 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.279 next floor if you like. So, so 00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:06.216 I think Julia 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:07.736 Simon 00:09:07.760 --> 00:09:08.536 Simon 00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:11.016 thank you and through you may um 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:13.096 in response to that first question we 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.696 do not anticipate that the parking 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.176 permits will generate a profit as has 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.495 been described in the question. The cost 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:21.336 of operating the service outlined in the 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.656 report already takes into consideration 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:25.656 the ongoing costs of operating the 00:09:25.680 --> 00:09:27.896 digital scheme and does not include the 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:29.656 one-off additional cost incurred this 00:09:29.680 --> 00:09:32.680 year as we transition to a new system. 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.480 Thank you and thank you um thank you for 00:09:38.160 --> 00:09:41.160 your submission. Um 00:09:41.839 --> 00:09:44.839 and I now will invite the second 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.336 submitter this evening and that's um 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.176 Lucy Smith to read a statement in 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.576 relation to agenda item 8.1 proposed 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.600 purchase of 131 to 133 Union Street 00:09:57.760 --> 00:09:59.976 Windsor and the lease to Windsor child 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.776 care center Lucy. So you both sat in the 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:04.856 middle. Perfect. Right. Thank you very 00:10:04.880 --> 00:10:05.896 much. 00:10:05.920 --> 00:10:08.696 Counselors. My name is Lucy. I'm a 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:10.776 parent and board member at Windsor 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:13.576 Community Children Center. I'm here on 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.136 behalf of our staff, educators, 00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:18.136 families, children, and the border 00:10:18.160 --> 00:10:20.536 strength and community. Swinburn 00:10:20.560 --> 00:10:22.696 University has recently confirmed they 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.296 are ready to proceed with the sale of 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.536 the land and are hoping to receive a 00:10:26.560 --> 00:10:28.696 binding non-conditional offer from 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.375 council. 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.055 We are grateful for the role this 00:10:32.079 --> 00:10:33.976 council has played to protect Union 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.856 Street Windsor in public ownership. We 00:10:36.880 --> 00:10:38.456 acknowledge and thank you for your 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.255 leadership and resolve to date. The 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.136 children of WCCCC have created an 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:45.976 artwork that reflects the partnership 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:47.976 between council and community and the 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.656 journey over the past 2 and a half 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:52.680 years. While our children benefit from 00:10:52.800 --> 00:10:55.016 this space today, the decision before 00:10:55.040 --> 00:10:57.896 you tonight is about something bigger. 00:10:57.920 --> 00:11:00.375 It represents prudent long-term 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.176 stewardship of public assets, investment 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.495 in social infrastructure, and a 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.336 practical commitment to the future 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.815 families of Stunnington for continued 00:11:09.839 --> 00:11:12.136 access to community-based early 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:15.160 childhood education and care. 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.375 Council has an opportunity here tonight 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.255 to act strategically and long-term. The 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.495 community together with state and 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.736 federal governments has assembled an 00:11:25.760 --> 00:11:28.136 extraordinary funding partnership and 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:29.815 created a pathway for council to 00:11:29.839 --> 00:11:32.839 purchase the site valued at $12.2 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.279 million for $4.1 million. 00:11:37.680 --> 00:11:40.680 And just last week, a further $279,000 00:11:42.079 --> 00:11:43.976 was awarded in the state budget for 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.935 capital improvements. 00:11:46.959 --> 00:11:49.656 This is what good government looks like. 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:52.616 It's what public service is for. Working 00:11:52.640 --> 00:11:54.536 alongside communities to deliver 00:11:54.560 --> 00:11:57.096 outcomes that serve the public interest, 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.896 protect public land, and strengthen the 00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:02.536 social fabric of the place. 00:12:02.560 --> 00:12:04.055 When it came to the possibility of 00:12:04.079 --> 00:12:06.856 reszoning, GLSAC saw the highest number 00:12:06.880 --> 00:12:09.495 of submissions on record, demonstrating 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.976 a significant con concern about the 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.615 future of the site, which has always 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.639 been public land. It would be unjust for 00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:20.216 this land to be lost permanently into 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.096 the commercial market, particularly at a 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:24.776 time when state government housing 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:27.576 growth and densification policies are 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.736 placing increasing pressure on community 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:32.760 infrastructure across inner Melbourne. 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.176 Since councelor's first unanimous 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.736 resolution to explore the acquisition, 00:12:37.760 --> 00:12:40.216 council has taken careful deliberate 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.296 steps over more than two and a half 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.536 years to bring this opportunity within 00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:45.896 reach. 00:12:45.920 --> 00:12:48.055 The decision before you tonight is about 00:12:48.079 --> 00:12:51.079 following through on that leadership. 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.336 We believe that this is one of those 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.136 moments where local government has an 00:12:56.160 --> 00:12:58.296 opportunity to do something future 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.615 generations of Stonington residents will 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.639 look back on and be proud of. Thank you. 00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:06.839 Thank you. 00:13:09.839 --> 00:13:12.216 And given it's on our agenda tonight, we 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:13.736 um won't be responding to that, but 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:16.136 you'll see we moving straight to that we 00:13:16.160 --> 00:13:18.216 get to general visit. So um thank you 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.240 both to to um Lucy and to Lauren for um 00:13:21.839 --> 00:13:24.839 presenting here today. 00:13:27.040 --> 00:13:28.776 All right. So just before we move to 00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:31.495 general business, I'll just let 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.519 you know to leave. 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.016 All right. Councils, we now move to 00:13:37.040 --> 00:13:39.576 general business. , and so the first 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.600 item on the agenda is 8.1 proposed 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.639 purchase 13133 Mr. Windsor and the Last 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.336 of Us childare center. Councilors, um, 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.896 we do have an office updated officer 00:13:51.920 --> 00:13:53.495 paper for tonight which has been 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.096 circularized. We've got it up on the 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.120 screen. Um, and so and councilors, can 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.399 you just be reminded that if you wish to 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:03.815 discuss the confidential Oh, sorry, 00:14:03.839 --> 00:14:05.336 Council Chad, I just realized. Yes. 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.360 Thank you. I was just reading the 00:14:08.560 --> 00:14:09.096 hello. 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:10.935 Yep. Thank you. We'll call you when 00:14:10.959 --> 00:14:13.959 we're finished. 00:14:14.079 --> 00:14:16.375 So, council Peters, please be reminded 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:17.495 um if you want to discuss the 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.296 confidential attachments for this item, 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:21.736 we will need a vote to move into 00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:23.736 confidential business. So, let's just be 00:14:23.760 --> 00:14:25.576 conscious about what we um discuss as 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.136 the public items and the confidential. 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:29.815 Councelor Hilly, are you moving? 00:14:29.839 --> 00:14:31.815 yes, I'd like to move the updated 00:14:31.839 --> 00:14:33.016 officer report with a couple of 00:14:33.040 --> 00:14:34.055 amendments, please. 00:14:34.079 --> 00:14:35.976 Okay. Can you share those with us? 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.935 Yeah, sure. So that on the screen now um 00:14:38.959 --> 00:14:41.959 so it's for 3A essentially saying that 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.776 it's going up to $70,000 and the same 00:14:44.800 --> 00:14:47.800 for 3B and then also for adding point4 00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:50.456 to acknowledge the state of commitment 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.480 up to $279,000. 00:14:53.760 --> 00:14:55.016 All right. Thank you. I'm happy to 00:14:55.040 --> 00:14:58.040 second that um officer motion with 00:14:59.199 --> 00:15:01.175 the amendments as you proposed. So thank 00:15:01.199 --> 00:15:02.856 you. Over to you councelor Healey. 00:15:02.880 --> 00:15:05.495 Thank you. So, where does community 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.055 actually live? And I was pondering this 00:15:08.079 --> 00:15:10.296 on the sidelines of my kids football 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.856 games over the um weekend at Ter Park. 00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:14.615 Um because it's not in a policy document 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:17.255 and it's not in a budget line. it 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.136 actually is in the um it's in the 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:21.736 kindergarten 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:24.216 where your child makes their first best 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:25.736 friends. 00:15:25.760 --> 00:15:28.536 It's in the um sports club where parents 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:30.615 connect and delight with their kids 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.175 smoolest achievements. um very small 00:15:33.199 --> 00:15:34.856 achievements. 00:15:34.880 --> 00:15:37.016 Um it lives in the pan market on a 00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:39.896 Saturday at lunch um which it is 00:15:39.920 --> 00:15:41.255 thriving there at home. It's very 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:42.136 exciting. And it lives in the 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:43.736 organizations that have been quietly 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:46.456 holding people together for decades. Um 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.935 these are the things which legislation 00:15:48.959 --> 00:15:51.416 does not require of us. Um they sit well 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.096 outside the roads, rates and rubbish 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.016 which is constantly thrown to us as 00:15:55.040 --> 00:15:56.935 counselors, but they're the reason that 00:15:56.959 --> 00:15:59.576 people choose to build a life here and 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.735 they're the reason that they stay. they 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.576 the things that make living here 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.576 something that we can be really proud of 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:07.495 and when that connection is lacking when 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.735 we we're culturally full of heart um 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.536 that's an issue. So Robert Pman spent 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:14.055 decades studying what happens to 00:16:14.079 --> 00:16:16.055 communities who lose their social fabric 00:16:16.079 --> 00:16:17.976 and he called it the collapse of social 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.456 capital where the consequences are 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.255 isolation distrust disengagement 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.815 and the antidote isn't a program it's a 00:16:25.839 --> 00:16:27.656 place 00:16:27.680 --> 00:16:29.896 just like Windset community children 00:16:29.920 --> 00:16:32.055 center 00:16:32.079 --> 00:16:35.079 I've watched this community fight for 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.440 two years to say something that most of 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.375 us would recognize the moment we walk 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.016 through that door. The warmth, the the 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:44.935 rootedness, the sense that the places 00:16:44.959 --> 00:16:46.935 belong to people who have used it for 00:16:46.959 --> 00:16:49.735 nearly 30 years. That kind of community 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.456 is not manufactured. It's grown slowly 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.255 through countless small moments of 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.175 connection and it's very easily 00:16:57.199 --> 00:16:59.255 destroyed. And tonight, we have to make 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.735 sure that it isn't. So, what we're about 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.055 to do is an extraordinary outcome. 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.136 Council's independent valuation placed 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.160 this site at between 12.2 and 13.8 8 00:17:09.760 --> 00:17:12.616 million and we're purchasing it for $8.4 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.175 million with $4.3 million coming from 00:17:15.199 --> 00:17:16.856 the federal government through the 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.336 advocacy of John Burns who deserves 00:17:19.360 --> 00:17:20.456 genuine credit. 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.480 Josh Burns, sorry. And council's actual 00:17:23.919 --> 00:17:26.856 overlay outlay is 4.1 million for an 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.015 asset which is worth three times that 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.336 much. It's hard one through years of 00:17:31.360 --> 00:17:34.056 persistence by the community and I want 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:36.456 to acknowledge the toll that that 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.416 persistence has taken to the 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.336 80 families to the 30 staff who 00:17:41.360 --> 00:17:43.736 volunteered for me who kept showing up 00:17:43.760 --> 00:17:45.976 to the council chambers to the letterw 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.496 writing campaigns while not knowing 00:17:47.520 --> 00:17:50.296 whether the next term would come. And so 00:17:50.320 --> 00:17:53.096 I feel like tonight is for the parents 00:17:53.120 --> 00:17:55.256 who wrote those letters, the staff who 00:17:55.280 --> 00:17:58.280 kept showing up and the volunteers who 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.456 carried this fight alongside everything 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.936 else in their lives. I really love this 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.856 motion. 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.696 Thank you, Council Lee. I reserve my run 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.136 at the moment. Are there other speakers 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.015 to the motion before us? 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.216 Councilor Hopper. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.696 , thank you. Well, look, it it is so 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.856 wonderful to be reaching the point of 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.416 being able to finally resolve the 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.736 acquisition of this property and give 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:23.576 the Windsor Community Children's Center 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:25.895 families and community the certainty 00:18:25.919 --> 00:18:28.216 they so deserve after more than two 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.376 years of fighting to retain in public 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.216 hands the community that they have 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.240 built. This is a strategic acquisition 00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:37.895 for council, an opportunity to invest in 00:18:37.919 --> 00:18:40.376 the future of our municipality, quite 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.936 literally an investment in children. Um, 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.856 and we see some of that future here 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.416 tonight in the gallery and to address 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.895 the unmet demand for early childhood 00:18:49.919 --> 00:18:52.296 education that has been identified in 00:18:52.320 --> 00:18:54.216 our kindergarten infrastructure and 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.240 services plan. It's also a fantastic 00:18:57.520 --> 00:18:59.496 piece of land right in the heart of 00:18:59.520 --> 00:19:02.136 Windsor that council is able to obtain 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.056 with support from the federal Labor 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:05.496 government and our member of 00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:07.176 parliamentary Josh Burns who I know 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.096 would be here if it were back up in 00:19:09.120 --> 00:19:11.736 Canra passing a budget over the next 00:19:11.760 --> 00:19:14.056 couple of days. We know it's been a 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:16.056 tough few years for the community 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:18.535 childare operators and especially for 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:20.856 Windsor Community Children's Center. The 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:22.616 co years meant that child care 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:25.096 operations really took a hit. And for 00:19:25.120 --> 00:19:27.655 WCCCC, that's been combined more 00:19:27.679 --> 00:19:30.376 recently with the uncertainty created by 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.775 ongoing lease negotiations and the 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.775 threat of eviction looming over their 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.096 heads. Families want to enroll their 00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:39.015 children in a childare center where they 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:41.655 can find a home for the years leading up 00:19:41.679 --> 00:19:44.456 to primary school. And for WCCCC, that 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:46.775 security has really been put on hold 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.936 over the last few years in a very public 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.176 way. So, of course, this has had an 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.576 impact to their operations, but through 00:19:53.600 --> 00:19:56.136 it all, they've stood strong and 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.976 demonstrated an incredible sense of 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.895 community along with high demand for 00:19:59.919 --> 00:20:02.456 future places from local families. And I 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:04.136 have no doubt that with the security of 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.160 tenure, WCCCC will only go from strength 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:09.096 to strength. And while there's a need 00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:10.936 for infrastructure investment to 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.856 continue to keep the center at a modern 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.936 standard, the good news is that just 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.960 last week, WCCCC received $279,000 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.895 in the state budget for upgrades to 00:20:21.919 --> 00:20:24.056 modernize its kitchen and other spaces. 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:25.895 And I want to acknowledge other House 00:20:25.919 --> 00:20:28.056 Labor MP Ryan Bachelor who's in the 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:30.216 gallery and who advocated very hard for 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.696 that outcome. With the center now having 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.336 certainty of ownership, I'm certain it 00:20:35.360 --> 00:20:37.336 will be a solid contender for potential 00:20:37.360 --> 00:20:39.015 future infrastructure funding if 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:42.039 required. But let's be really clear, we 00:20:42.080 --> 00:20:44.296 would never have been in this position 00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:47.176 of having to spend $4.1 million in 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.736 rateayers money and the federal Labor 00:20:49.760 --> 00:20:52.135 government having to step in with $4.3 00:20:52.159 --> 00:20:54.775 million of taxpayers money. If this 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:57.655 public asset had not been given away by 00:20:57.679 --> 00:20:59.496 the Liberals the last time they were in 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:01.496 government in Victoria, it's an 00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:03.976 inexplicable decision that showed a 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.816 total lack of forward planning about the 00:21:05.840 --> 00:21:08.456 future value of this land in Windsor, 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.775 social and economic. It's been an 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:12.696 unfortunate situation that's put the 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:14.856 families of this community children's 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.535 center through a great deal of 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:19.096 uncertainty and stress. But I'm very 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:21.416 relieved that tonight 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.256 Thank you. I'm finishing. I'm very 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:24.775 relieved that tonight we have the 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:26.456 opportunity to finally put that to an 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:28.535 end and I'm proud to support this 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.096 motion. 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:33.256 Thank you, Council Hopper. , other 00:21:33.280 --> 00:21:36.280 speakers to the motion 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.880 looking online? 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.240 No. Any other speakers? 00:21:44.320 --> 00:21:45.655 Council Davis. 00:21:45.679 --> 00:21:48.679 , thank you, Mayor. Um, 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.799 yes. This is council Hopper states um we 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.640 entering into a contract of 4.1 00:21:55.679 --> 00:21:58.616 million. How it got there? Let's not go 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:00.135 there. 00:22:00.159 --> 00:22:03.159 But but it's apparent to me that the 00:22:03.760 --> 00:22:06.376 site will subsequently cost council more 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:09.400 than that. How much? Who knows? The 00:22:10.080 --> 00:22:12.296 building itself was assessed by council 00:22:12.320 --> 00:22:14.616 staff and described as being in average 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.015 poor condition. I visited the center 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.775 last year and I concur with this 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.336 description. An independent building 00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:23.176 condition assessment report confirmed 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:24.936 the pavilion's average to poor 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.256 condition. This included roof leaks, 00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:30.280 subsequent buildup of mold, and rotting 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:33.015 window frames. The report also 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:35.416 identified that over the ensuing 5-year 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.056 period, several assets will require 00:22:38.080 --> 00:22:40.616 replacement. mechanical units, internal 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.616 floor coverings, and roof cladding, 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.640 which will require more than $340,000. 00:22:46.159 --> 00:22:47.736 Currently, the report suggests the 00:22:47.760 --> 00:22:49.416 combined opportunity, capital, 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.015 maintenance, and operating costs are 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.015 estimated to exceed the proposed rental 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.039 income by nearly $184,000 each year. And 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:59.256 yes, the bathroom, kitchen, and 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:00.936 flooring have not been updated, although 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.015 the recent state government grant may 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:04.696 cover the expense or at least some of 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.720 this refurbishment. 00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:09.895 Yet, if the center is unable to improve 00:23:09.919 --> 00:23:12.056 this center to bring it to community 00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:14.696 expectations and standards, will the 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.720 onus be on council to rectify it? I'm 00:23:17.919 --> 00:23:19.816 only pointing this out because this 00:23:19.840 --> 00:23:22.616 council is in a I was going to say 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:24.936 precarious, but a financial situation 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.256 that we've had to address from the very 00:23:27.280 --> 00:23:30.280 beginning when we took over and we've 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.400 made a great number of changes to our 00:23:33.679 --> 00:23:36.679 budget. And this is a $4.1 million 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:42.200 expense that in the in the reality um we 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.176 u may have to forego other investment in 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.736 infrastructure. There is also a center 00:23:49.760 --> 00:23:52.760 in the same street which council owns. 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:54.856 there are lots of aspects to look at 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.176 this and yes I understand that this is a 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.200 very emotional um decision 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:03.416 and passionate responses from 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.895 council Healey and councelor Hopper but 00:24:05.919 --> 00:24:07.655 I just want to state on the record that 00:24:07.679 --> 00:24:10.535 I have real concerns about this outlook. 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:11.736 Thank you 00:24:11.760 --> 00:24:13.655 council. Thank you councelor Davis. 00:24:13.679 --> 00:24:16.616 Other speakers. 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.255 Thank you mayor and thank you councelor 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.279 Davis. I think councelor Davis makes a a 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.096 really good point and I I agree that 00:24:25.120 --> 00:24:27.336 there are certainly elements to this 00:24:27.360 --> 00:24:30.360 motion that makes a lot of sense. Um the 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.039 WCCCC have, as has been mentioned, have 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.176 put in a really 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.895 inspiring commitment to ensure the the 00:24:39.919 --> 00:24:42.616 longevity of of the center. And I think 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.056 that's a really important community 00:24:44.080 --> 00:24:46.296 attribute and I commend you for that. 00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:48.376 and I've had conversations with some of 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.056 you and I've had lots of text messages 00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:53.080 this week. Um, I think the reality is is 00:24:53.600 --> 00:24:55.736 that 00:24:55.760 --> 00:24:58.760 we do have to provide $4.1 million of 00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:02.056 tax or in this case rate payer money 00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:03.816 towards 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:06.775 this sale. And 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:08.936 I do have reservations about that at 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.960 this stage considering councelor Davis's 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.376 reference to the current budget which is 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.976 out for community consultation at the 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.816 moment and we know and we've made on 00:25:17.840 --> 00:25:19.416 public 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:21.416 um platforms that this is a really tight 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.440 budget and we're trying to manage the 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:27.895 balance between offering a really strong 00:25:27.919 --> 00:25:29.976 service to the community while ensuring 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.000 that we can continue to back the WCCCC 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:35.336 for example. 00:25:35.360 --> 00:25:37.816 Um, and that's the dilemma here tonight. 00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:39.895 I think it's important to understand 00:25:39.919 --> 00:25:42.135 that while we are getting contributions 00:25:42.159 --> 00:25:44.456 from elsewhere, it doesn't necessarily 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.480 make the $4.1 million any cheaper. Um, 00:25:48.320 --> 00:25:50.216 the idea that we're getting a great deal 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.456 while on one hand being true, not 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.696 necessarily on the other, because if 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.496 that is going to come to fruition, we'd 00:25:57.520 --> 00:25:59.336 have to realize a sale of an asset at a 00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:00.775 later date to make that look quite 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.535 attractive. And I don't think there's 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.535 any anticipation from anyone here that 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.096 we would seek to sell it based on the 00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:09.895 opportunity that apparently exists as a 00:26:09.919 --> 00:26:11.895 good deal. So I'm troubled by that fact 00:26:11.919 --> 00:26:14.535 as well. Um I haven't made up my mind 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.336 yet. That's how tight this is. I made 00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:19.816 the mention about 6 months ago that I 00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:21.496 had reservations about this and I still 00:26:21.520 --> 00:26:24.520 do. Um 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.856 I am 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.496 forever conscious that we have a really 00:26:29.520 --> 00:26:32.520 strong responsibility to ensure that the 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.856 finances of Stonington remains adequate 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.880 and sustainable long term. And while it 00:26:38.320 --> 00:26:40.856 is an incredibly emotional it is an 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.856 incredibly emotional time at the moment. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.496 We must look as councilors beyond that 00:26:45.520 --> 00:26:47.255 specific item in front of us at the 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:48.856 moment. 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:50.856 Um and I'd also urge councilors to 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.880 strongly think about that very point. Um 00:26:53.919 --> 00:26:55.496 it's certainly at the forefront of my 00:26:55.520 --> 00:26:57.816 mind. May thank you. 00:26:57.840 --> 00:26:59.176 Thank you councelor Bell. Other 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.056 speakers. 00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:04.296 Okay. 00:27:04.320 --> 00:27:06.376 Thank you ma'am. Um I think it's also 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.296 wish to echo council Davis's comments 00:27:08.320 --> 00:27:10.856 that she made. My concern here is that 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.496 we have a a proposed asset here that is 00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:16.520 not being optimized has not been at full 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.376 capaCity for a number of years. We have 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.056 our own facility directly opposite 00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:21.816 within spitting distance that is also 00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:23.576 not full capaCity and that has not been 00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:25.096 like that. That has been like that for 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:27.096 many years. We also recently sold a 00:27:27.120 --> 00:27:28.456 facility not dissimilar to this one 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.616 around the corner in Windsor too because 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.135 of falling numbers. And yes, we have 00:27:32.159 --> 00:27:33.655 been told that there are projections of 00:27:33.679 --> 00:27:36.679 potential um population increase with 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.135 the potential usage for these 00:27:38.159 --> 00:27:41.159 facilities. Um I'm yet to see this um 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.976 eventuate. I'm yet to be proven that 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:45.496 those are going to be um the outcomes 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:47.895 that we will see. Yes, I do understand 00:27:47.919 --> 00:27:50.056 this is this is an emotional um issue 00:27:50.080 --> 00:27:51.976 for parents. I'm not a parent, but I 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.375 understand I'm an early educator, too. 00:27:54.399 --> 00:27:55.976 Um I find it interesting that some 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.696 counselors are arguing for a possible 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.720 sale or not of an asset when um an asset 00:28:01.919 --> 00:28:04.616 in their own ward was totally ignored 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.375 and not purchased by this council. So 00:28:06.399 --> 00:28:09.336 that was a fascinating um juosition for 00:28:09.360 --> 00:28:12.360 my um my ears I should say. Um I'm not 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.496 of the view of acquiring the site. Um my 00:28:17.520 --> 00:28:20.216 issue with this is that as I said there 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.655 are other facilities in the area that 00:28:21.679 --> 00:28:24.135 are not at full capaCity. We recently 00:28:24.159 --> 00:28:27.159 sold one um for this exact same reason. 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.200 Um I'm not confident that having this 00:28:30.399 --> 00:28:33.399 asset on our register as an ongoing 00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:36.375 children's center is going to be viable. 00:28:36.399 --> 00:28:38.936 Um the operation of the facility in the 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.535 last couple of years and the financials 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.176 that I have seen have not made me um 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.200 comfortable in acquiring an asset that 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.640 is not performing. And um I also need to 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.240 remind people that this form of early 00:28:53.679 --> 00:28:56.679 childhood um service is not necessarily 00:28:57.360 --> 00:28:59.655 the remit of the local government. We 00:28:59.679 --> 00:29:01.895 have many um other levels of government 00:29:01.919 --> 00:29:04.296 above us who keep handballing their 00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:06.535 assets and their services to us and we 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.176 have had to make tough decisions in the 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:10.936 in the budget that we have out with our 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.296 community at the moment. We've had to 00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:15.096 make um increases in in fees and 00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:17.576 charges. We've had to offset those with 00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:20.600 asset sales. Um we've also had to um 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.135 let the state government and we'll 00:29:24.159 --> 00:29:25.255 probably let the federal government know 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:26.535 that we will not be continuing some 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.416 services as well um because of this cost 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.096 shifting that has been occurring over 00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:34.120 many years. And this all sounds very 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.135 familiar to me. And I think council 00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:38.135 Davis, you were on council at the time 00:29:38.159 --> 00:29:40.696 that when we were um when the Stonington 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.096 mansion was up for sale. Sounds exactly 00:29:43.120 --> 00:29:46.120 the same. a a a university selling an 00:29:47.679 --> 00:29:50.679 asset that were given for free 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:52.696 by the state government 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:53.576 a dollar 00:29:53.600 --> 00:29:56.600 and um we're now being thrown the poison 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.096 chalice by the state government who 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:00.616 should be taking responsibility for this 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.640 asset. Um anyway, that's I've said my 00:30:03.919 --> 00:30:06.375 two cents worth and I think it's um 00:30:06.399 --> 00:30:07.816 disappointing that people have come to 00:30:07.840 --> 00:30:10.840 the table with not a firm um 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.416 understanding of all the facts and 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.736 figures to make an informed decision 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:17.336 this evening. 00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:20.360 Thank you councelor Steve. Um any other 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:24.039 speakers just online just checking 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.559 council Humphre. 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:31.655 has that come through? 00:30:31.679 --> 00:30:34.535 Yes, loud and clear. 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.056 Um 00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:39.080 I think the all the councils have kind 00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:41.895 of eloquently summed up the issues that 00:30:41.919 --> 00:30:44.919 are surrounding this. Um 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:49.736 Scottington is not a City at this point 00:30:49.760 --> 00:30:51.576 in time. 00:30:51.600 --> 00:30:54.600 there are significant challenges that 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.880 we do face within our budget. We have 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.936 gone some of the way and in a self-s 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.496 serving plug maybe the better plan is a 00:31:03.520 --> 00:31:06.135 better way 00:31:06.159 --> 00:31:09.159 but where we are at is 00:31:11.360 --> 00:31:12.856 I think in our community at this point 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.616 in time 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.576 we've had a huge number of elected 00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:20.296 officials say one thing and do another. 00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:22.375 For me, I'm not particularly interested 00:31:22.399 --> 00:31:24.856 in joining that list of elected 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.096 officials. 00:31:27.120 --> 00:31:28.856 We have long committed to stand by 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.496 winter 00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:33.096 and I believe that we should follow 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:36.120 through with that. However, 00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:39.320 I'm not in a mind to continue that 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.176 beyond tonight. 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.176 It is now up to Windsor to stand on its 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.056 own two feet and make sure the facility 00:31:48.080 --> 00:31:51.080 is run to the standard is required 00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:54.360 because as everyone has pointed out the 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.495 facility is worth quite a lot of money 00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.416 and 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.736 that would be a tremendous asset to the 00:32:01.760 --> 00:32:04.760 City. So I wish the best of luck in 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:06.616 running their center and getting out to 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.616 full stride as they have committed to us 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.640 for a long period of time. 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.616 Right. Thank you, councelor Humphre. Any 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.640 other speakers? 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.696 All right. Um, so as the board 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.720 counselor, um, and someone who's 00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:27.080 supported this and has stuck to my word, 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.480 um, consistently from day one, um, I'll 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.135 be supporting the recommendation before 00:32:34.159 --> 00:32:35.655 us. 00:32:35.679 --> 00:32:37.015 There's an old saying, it's a long time 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.696 to look forward to, but a short time to 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.255 look back on. And I think of my 25 years 00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.576 on council where many years ago we 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:45.176 purchased land which at the time we were 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.495 in exactly the same position we are 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.736 where we're conscious of spending wave 00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:52.760 payers money the future of a site and I 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.616 look back and they were the smartest 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.255 decisions that we made and we know that 00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.736 land is invaluable in inner City and 00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:02.760 once it's gone it's gone and we learned 00:33:03.120 --> 00:33:05.096 that the hard way when the commissioners 00:33:05.120 --> 00:33:08.120 came in and sold a whole heap of land in 00:33:08.159 --> 00:33:10.056 the City of piran days. And for those 00:33:10.080 --> 00:33:12.616 who know the fantastic skate park we 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.616 have near Cran Paul, there are a number 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.375 of buildings on that corner that council 00:33:16.399 --> 00:33:18.856 one once owned. Um the commission 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.216 commissioners sold them when they 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.056 amalgamated City of Melbourne, the City 00:33:22.080 --> 00:33:24.696 of Melbourne and the City of PR for 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.255 hardly anything and it cost us millions 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.736 and millions of dollars to buy them 00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:32.760 back. So when an opportunity like this 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.576 presents itself, 00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:38.216 we would be crazy not to grab it. And 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.696 more importantly, it is a fundamental 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.456 service that is ingrained in our 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.535 community. Many of you know that my 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.775 oldest son went to Windsor Childcare 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.015 Community Center 23 and a half years 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.736 ago. So, it's a service that I've used 00:33:51.760 --> 00:33:53.895 as well and a number of people that I 00:33:53.919 --> 00:33:56.775 know. It is located in the growth zone 00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.576 and yes, there may be a decline. Um, but 00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:01.655 I also remember when it was you couldn't 00:34:01.679 --> 00:34:04.375 get a place in a childare center. So, 00:34:04.399 --> 00:34:07.015 who knows where it's moving? And we have 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.575 recommended that um that Windsor protect 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.256 themselves by looking at kindergarten 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.095 accreditation and actually expanding 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.496 services that it's not just limited to 00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:17.976 child care. We also have a number of 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.736 sites locally that have closed 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.095 particularly on public housing in 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.936 estates. So, there are certainly 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.615 opportunities for growth and there is 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.776 also opportunities as touched on in the 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.936 debate to consolidate centers in the 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.655 local area. Um, I thank wholeheartly 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.655 thank Ryan Bachelor for securing that 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.575 additional funding because that is also 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.976 additional money that council may have 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.655 had to contribute which now we don't 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.679 need to to upgrade the facility. And um 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:45.575 I just want to again thank the parents 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.599 of Windsor and all the families and the 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.575 staff. I mean, what a stellar effort. 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.335 And I remember when we first embarked on 00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:55.976 this, it was such a pie in the sky dream 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.136 as to where we had to get to with 00:34:58.160 --> 00:35:00.216 Swinburn not wanting to sell the site or 00:35:00.240 --> 00:35:02.776 selling it for market value and the fact 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.016 that we've gotten to this point with the 00:35:05.040 --> 00:35:06.936 support of Josh Burns and also from the 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.856 state government and then we're still 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.376 going to get Swimburn to the party, but 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.856 we're certainly a lot closer and our CEO 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.776 CEO and his team are doing a fabulous 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.016 job in in working to close that deal for 00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:18.696 us. It's it's amazing that we're 00:35:18.720 --> 00:35:19.815 actually sitting here tonight. I'm 00:35:19.839 --> 00:35:21.496 really proud to have been part of the 00:35:21.520 --> 00:35:24.520 journey um from day one. So um you 00:35:24.640 --> 00:35:26.936 wholeheartedly have my support. So over 00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.335 to councelor to Healey to close the 00:35:29.359 --> 00:35:32.359 debate and um we'll put it to the vote. 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.176 Councelor Hilly, thank you. Um look, I 00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:36.536 mean I think there's some very valid 00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:38.376 points that have been raised across the 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.176 table. Um, one thing that I'd be keen 00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:43.256 for us to look into going forward is an 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.280 opportunity to get some VSBA building 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.016 block grants, um, and looking at other 00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:51.016 state and federal funding program. So, 00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:52.936 I'm aware that, um, our neighboring 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.335 council, Port Phillip, has um, was able 00:35:55.359 --> 00:35:58.359 to secure $16.5 million towards um, , 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.055 from Victoria funding for six centers. 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.016 So I I haven't I don't recall Stonington 00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:06.936 ever getting that kind of level of of 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.696 funding before, but I think this is a a 00:36:08.720 --> 00:36:10.856 sitting duck for being able to get that 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.416 kind of funding to help lift up the the 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.440 asset itself. Um I also believe that we 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.335 do probably need to see see as councils 00:36:19.359 --> 00:36:21.656 we need to see a full review of 00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:24.055 council's early learning um and 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.136 kindergarten infrastructure portfolio 00:36:26.160 --> 00:36:27.575 and how we're going to manage that going 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:28.696 forward. That is something that we 00:36:28.720 --> 00:36:30.776 definitely need to move on. But I think 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.416 finally one of the things I reflect on 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.376 um is I suppose our responsibilities 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.216 under the local government act and we 00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:40.696 are taught to have to think about our 00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:42.856 decisions as how they may impact current 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.880 and future generations. Um and although 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.776 we are as many have said facing a very 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.936 tight financial situation as far as our 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.095 current and future budgets this is 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.815 something which an investment which will 00:36:55.839 --> 00:36:58.376 dramatically impact the lives of future 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.936 generations. Um, and I believe sometimes 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.536 when you make decisions like this, you 00:37:02.560 --> 00:37:04.296 really have to look forward, look back, 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:05.496 look into the future and imagine 00:37:05.520 --> 00:37:07.896 yourself looking back from 2050 and 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.976 going, "God, I'm so glad we did that." 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.656 And I think this that is one of those 00:37:11.680 --> 00:37:13.496 decisions. And so that's why I really 00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:15.416 commend everyone to vote for the motion. 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.815 Thank you. 00:37:15.839 --> 00:37:17.496 Thank you, Council. I'll now put the 00:37:17.520 --> 00:37:20.520 motion. All those in favor? 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.440 All those against. 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.960 So we'll do a vote. Um, all those sorry 00:37:28.560 --> 00:37:30.376 again. So all those in favor of 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.776 councelor s council hopper councelor 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.800 healey councelaris 00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:39.240 council I can't see councel hump please 00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:41.575 okay thank councelor humphre and all 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.496 those against so councelor 00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:45.496 Stefanopoulos councelor bell councelor 00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:47.736 Davis and the motion is carried thank 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.760 All 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.016 right, we will adjourn for 5 minutes if 00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:05.016 you'd like to head home, celebrate, 00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:08.040 crack open a bowl of champagne 00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:11.160 and we'll send councelor snaru back in 00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:12.616 to thank everyone for attending this 00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:15.575 evening. 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.256 Um, thank you to everyone who's joined 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.575 us online. We're now moving to item 8.2 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.256 on the general business, planning 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.280 application for 1341 Molden Road, Mold. 00:38:24.560 --> 00:38:26.376 Um, we have the officer recommendation 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.016 of a mover in a second. 00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:31.335 The officer recommendation council 00:38:31.359 --> 00:38:34.359 second. I'll second council. 00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:38.696 Councelor Bell to you. 00:38:38.720 --> 00:38:41.720 , thanks Mayor. Um, 00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:46.696 I will actually reserve it. 00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:47.016 Okay. 00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:49.095 Yeah. At this point, unless anyone else 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:49.575 does. 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.599 I will too. And speaking to the motion, 00:38:53.839 --> 00:38:54.616 he's no longer. 00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:57.640 Yes, ma'am. I'm I'm not as As 00:38:58.160 --> 00:38:59.736 I'm not happy with this proposal. This 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.760 is the most abhorrent um ugly monster 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.376 that's going to be built on Molvin Road, 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:05.496 which is a car wash. 00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:07.335 Correct. Um I love getting my car 00:39:07.359 --> 00:39:09.815 washed, but not there um because I'm too 00:39:09.839 --> 00:39:12.696 lazy to wash my own car. So, I am not in 00:39:12.720 --> 00:39:13.896 favor of this. I know that there isn't 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.416 support around the table to refuse it, 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:16.216 even though I think it's an 00:39:16.240 --> 00:39:19.240 underdevelopment of the site. 00:39:19.839 --> 00:39:22.839 Excuse me. I think the um the it will 00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:26.776 present poorly to to Molvin Road. Um the 00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:28.136 residents to the north will have to 00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:30.216 suffer all that noise that occurs. I 00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:31.575 mean, Council Davis, I think it's in 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.216 your ward, the one M lower Molvin Road. 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:36.616 Um on the corner of is it Moira? 00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:37.176 Moira. 00:39:37.200 --> 00:39:39.896 Yep. Um, that's what we're going to get 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.055 on this lovely stretch of Molvin Road. 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:42.376 And 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.616 it's very convenient. We like it. And 00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:46.936 I don't think it's a great location for 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:49.736 such an abomination of a facility. I 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.216 would have preferred if there was a 00:39:52.240 --> 00:39:54.296 residential building built with some 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:55.896 commercial on the ground floor as has 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.416 occurred on the south side of Molvin 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.896 Road um almost from Spring Road right 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.776 through to um MacArthur Street. It is a 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.536 growth zone. It's where we encourage 00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:06.216 residential, which is where we encourage 00:40:06.240 --> 00:40:08.216 high density. And in this instance, this 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:10.055 is the wrong being. It's an 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.896 underdevelopment over the site. 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.136 Thank you, Council Councelor Davis. 00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:17.160 Thank you. Um I do concur with Council 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:19.736 Stefanopoulos and it's really quite 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.536 ugly, I have to say. but um 00:40:22.560 --> 00:40:24.696 interesting things happening because 00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:26.536 the car wash you mentioned on the corner 00:40:26.560 --> 00:40:29.560 of Moira and Melvin Row was actually get 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.176 granted a permit for a development 00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:35.095 and they've decided to remain a car 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.696 wash. happen if they've changed hands in 00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:39.016 the interim. And this site we're looking 00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:42.040 at now was also granted a permit and 00:40:42.720 --> 00:40:44.216 obviously decided. So something's 00:40:44.240 --> 00:40:45.496 happening. They everyone wants these 00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:47.656 apartments to be built, but developers 00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:49.976 seem to be changing their minds. So they 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.976 can't afford it or whatever whatever the 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.055 rationale is. so that's why we're 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.736 stuck with it. The officers I think have 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.496 tried to make the best of the situation. 00:40:57.520 --> 00:41:00.520 They've um the applicants have um 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.400 lodged several changes to the plans. Um 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.760 and one objector withdrew the previous 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.656 objection. and this in incorporates 00:41:11.680 --> 00:41:13.736 additional landscaping around the site 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.335 perimeter. It's a bit of luck we won't 00:41:15.359 --> 00:41:17.896 see too much of it, but 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.920 look, what can you do? Thank you. 00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:23.815 All right, I'll add um my thoughts to 00:41:23.839 --> 00:41:25.815 it. It looks allowable use in the 00:41:25.839 --> 00:41:28.376 zoning. We all asked the questions. Um 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.136 it's next to the Molden Bell Hotel for 00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:31.496 those who may not be familiar with the 00:41:31.520 --> 00:41:33.095 site. It's been a vacant block for quite 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.656 a while selling thousand year old trees 00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:35.976 from 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.016 Are they fake plants? 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:39.256 Are they okay? Well, they were a lot of 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.335 money. I remember when I sort of pulled 00:41:41.359 --> 00:41:43.256 up the Mville and had a look and 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.416 couldn't believe the cost of them. Not 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.055 my kind of um landscaping, but anyway. 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:49.736 Um 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.496 they're allowed to apply for this. It's 00:41:51.520 --> 00:41:53.256 consistent with the zoning. Yes, it's 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.976 not an ideal use. Um and I suspect 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:57.815 rising construction costs. Maybe this is 00:41:57.839 --> 00:41:59.815 the way to hold the land, generate some 00:41:59.839 --> 00:42:02.839 revenue and until maybe it's more 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:04.856 economical to do the build. This isn't 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.815 the only site we know has permits that 00:42:07.839 --> 00:42:09.496 have been proceeded with. So, councelor 00:42:09.520 --> 00:42:10.856 Chad, did you have your hand up? 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.880 I did. I I basically echo councelor 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.776 Davis and your men's um sentiments. I 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.016 know that car parks are not great street 00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:21.416 frontage um and from an aesthetics point 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.136 of view. um you know it would be great 00:42:24.160 --> 00:42:27.160 to see residential or um some sort of 00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:30.200 more um higher amenity retail. However, 00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:33.575 it is an allowable use. We do have a a 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.815 car wash just 100 me few hundred meters 00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:38.839 away. Um I suspect the um land owners 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.496 are just doing a bit of a waiting game 00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:43.575 and trying to make some use of it which 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.599 they can within the zoning. So, um, 00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:49.640 yeah, I I I I can't, um, argue with that 00:42:50.560 --> 00:42:53.560 and, um, yeah, would would have to 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.136 support the application as it stands. 00:42:56.160 --> 00:42:58.136 All right. Thank you. Um, any other 00:42:58.160 --> 00:42:59.976 speakers? 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.016 I'll just finish off. 00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:02.936 Yes, there's no one else. 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.016 Everyone's agreeing with you, so 00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:06.616 um, I think it's I mean, some good 00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:08.295 points. We've already discussed a little 00:43:08.319 --> 00:43:10.456 bit previously, but I think it's 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.376 interesting to point out in a case like 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.400 this where it probably does show how the 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.960 planning system doesn't always allow to 00:43:20.240 --> 00:43:22.696 optimize the best land use or the best 00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:24.936 zoning. I think the important 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.896 consideration here is I don't think it's 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.055 offensive enough. I mean, sure, I think 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.456 we'll all agree that a car wash is not 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.480 aesthetically lovely to look at. It's a 00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:37.656 necessity though. It's really important 00:43:37.680 --> 00:43:39.416 function for people. I know it's going 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.896 to get well used. I'm confident of that. 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.736 I'm I'm sure they've done their homework 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.295 despite the closeness to other similar 00:43:46.319 --> 00:43:49.319 products. Um and I think that the 00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:52.456 overwhelming consideration here is as 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.480 been said, it is a permissible use. It's 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.136 it fits within our planning system. It's 00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:00.536 been assessed accordingly and I've got 00:44:00.560 --> 00:44:03.560 no inherent issue with it. So happy to 00:44:03.680 --> 00:44:05.496 support it. in my award. Good luck to 00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:07.815 them. 00:44:07.839 --> 00:44:10.216 Thank you, councelor Bell. Um the motion 00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:13.240 will now be put. All those in favor 00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:16.936 and all those against. I'll just read 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:18.295 out the names. All those in favor, 00:44:18.319 --> 00:44:19.656 council cheddar, councelor Bell, 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:22.136 councelor, councelor Halper, councelor 00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:24.376 Davis, councelor S, council, councelor 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.136 Humphre, and all those against council 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:28.216 Stefanopoulos. Motions carried. Council 00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:30.376 has been moved to 8.3 the VCAT quarterly 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.616 report first quarter 2026. Do I have a 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:35.640 room in the sector? 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.536 Council Davis, Council J. Councelor 00:44:38.560 --> 00:44:40.616 Davis. 00:44:40.640 --> 00:44:42.536 Thank you, Mayor. 00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:45.560 this is um just to inform councils of 00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:49.095 the planning decisions by VCAT in the 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.176 first quarter of 26 between January and 00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.200 March. Um it was interesting to read 00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:56.136 this report which officers have 00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:59.160 prepared because it refers to um 8 00:44:59.359 --> 00:45:01.815 York Road Glenaris. the application 00:45:01.839 --> 00:45:04.376 was for 10 town houses, nine threetory 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.256 and one twostory and council advised the 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:08.936 parties that it would have refused the 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:10.856 application on grounds relating to the 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.575 rem removal of canopy trees. One 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:15.335 objective party also joined the 00:45:15.359 --> 00:45:17.656 proceeding. An agreement was reached at 00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:19.736 compulsory conference as the applicant 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.136 was able to show that they could meet 00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:25.160 the new deemed to comply canopy tree 00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:28.200 standard B27. 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:31.496 So the ground which the council could 00:45:31.520 --> 00:45:33.095 not oppose a development on the grounds 00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.119 of canopy tree removal. The objectors 00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:38.136 agreed to settle based on a high rear 00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:40.055 fence and planning of a hedge along the 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.136 rear boundary. So a permit was issued on 00:45:42.160 --> 00:45:44.776 this basis. The application was also of 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.616 interest because the first application 00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:49.496 to go to VCAT where the new dean to 00:45:49.520 --> 00:45:52.520 comply provisions of clause 55 res code 00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:55.095 two or more dwellings on a lot apply to 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.416 a larger townhouse development. Given 00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.176 the proposal satisfied many of the 00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:01.095 deemed to comply provisions, council 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.176 officers were unable to raise concerns 00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:05.256 about neighborhood character and visual 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.256 bulk which would have previously been 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.256 raised under the previous assessment 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.976 assessment pathway. What a shame that 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.536 Ryan Bachelor has left the building 00:46:14.560 --> 00:46:17.176 because this is this is a direct 00:46:17.200 --> 00:46:19.256 impact of state government planning 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.280 changes and um hopefully 00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:26.055 council Hopper might take up on this 00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.136 into election campaign. We can always 00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:31.016 hope. Um and so it's obvious that 00:46:31.040 --> 00:46:32.616 council will always will see more 00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:34.856 applications of this type and we're 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.016 concerns that officers would pre have 00:46:37.040 --> 00:46:39.496 previously have raised usually at the 00:46:39.520 --> 00:46:41.896 request of residents 00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.295 that we simply will not be able to 00:46:44.319 --> 00:46:46.776 raise this as a matter in future. How 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.776 unfortunate. 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:50.456 Thank you councelor Davis. Councelor 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.095 Chhat. 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.376 Oh nothing further. Thank you. 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.095 Anyone like to add anything further? 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:56.696 All right. So councelor Davis you happy 00:46:56.720 --> 00:46:57.896 for me to put that to your vote. All 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.055 those in favor? That motion's carried. 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.736 We move to 8.4 annual community and 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.256 quick response community grants 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.575 programs. Do I have a move and second to 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.599 council Hopper? Second council here. 00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:10.055 Council. 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:11.815 Look, not a great amount to say, but 00:47:11.839 --> 00:47:14.839 essentially tonight we are endorsing a 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.976 range of policies and guidelines for our 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.456 community grants and quick response 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.616 community grants. Um and these are 00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:25.575 proposed to open this Friday and 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.599 close on Tuesday the 9th of June. Um so 00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:31.896 if you are someone or an organization 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.295 doing great work in our community um and 00:47:34.319 --> 00:47:36.055 you want to apply for a community 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.536 grant or a quick response grant u make 00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:40.456 sure to jump on our website and find out 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.696 more about the guidelines this year um 00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:44.856 and go through the application process. 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:46.536 Thank you councelor Hilly C. Sorry 00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:48.055 Council Council Hilly. 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.079 Thank you. Um so tonight's changes don't 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.055 um directly govern the partnership 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.295 grants which are part of the three-year 00:47:56.319 --> 00:47:59.319 grant cycle um which open in 2017 28 um 00:48:00.240 --> 00:48:01.496 where we've been promised a 00:48:01.520 --> 00:48:04.520 comprehensive review beforehand. Um and 00:48:04.720 --> 00:48:07.016 I think that I just want to put on 00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:08.776 record that I feel like council has to 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:10.536 generally understand any downstream 00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:13.335 impact that could come from any changes 00:48:13.359 --> 00:48:16.359 to those longer grants. Um we've got 00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:19.095 partners who tackle emergency relief and 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.896 hardship programs and and you know help 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.856 deal with isolation connection so forth. 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.880 Um which I I just feel um I've had some 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.936 feedback from one of the grant about one 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.016 of the grant recipients which is now 00:48:33.040 --> 00:48:35.976 relying quite heavily on council's grant 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.000 funding. Um, and I'm concerned about 00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:41.416 when we do if we do change that model in 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.256 some way, how that might impact the 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.335 ability to for them to provide those 00:48:45.359 --> 00:48:47.896 services. So, totally great with the 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.656 short-term grants and the annual grants, 00:48:49.680 --> 00:48:51.575 but when we do get to that, thinking 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.216 about the trianual um how we can make 00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:57.240 sure that um that any changes that 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.815 happen don't adversely affect our 00:49:01.839 --> 00:49:04.839 community essentially, but otherwise, 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:06.216 thank you, councelor Hill. Other 00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:09.176 speakers to the motion. 00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:10.696 All right. There being none, councelor 00:49:10.720 --> 00:49:13.720 Hopper happy to vote. All those in favor 00:49:15.040 --> 00:49:17.256 that motions carry unanimously. Thank 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.280 you. All right. We move to item 8.5 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.960 advisory committee appointments. 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.575 So moved. 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.535 Seconded. Council 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:29.416 nothing to say. 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.335 Council Hopper. Oh, it's just wonderful 00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:33.256 to see members of our community putting 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.176 their hands up to be part of these 00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:37.575 advisory committees. Um, you know, the 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.016 disability advisory committee, the 00:49:39.040 --> 00:49:41.256 reconciliation advisory committee and 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.095 rainbow advisory committee. We've got a 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:44.616 range of wonderful applicants from 00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:47.095 across the municipality. Um, and so I'm 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:49.095 really looking forward to hearing what 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.535 they have to say and what great ideas 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.136 they put forward. 00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:55.160 Thank you, Councelor Hopper. Um, any 00:49:55.520 --> 00:49:57.416 other speakers? 00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.295 Can't top that. 00:49:58.319 --> 00:50:00.696 No, it's amazing. You still covered. 00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:01.976 Councelor Hopper should have moved the 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.176 motion. 00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:04.456 She spoke eloquently. Well, 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.376 she should. 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.400 All right. Um, councilors online, are 00:50:09.839 --> 00:50:12.616 you happy for me to put the motion? All 00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:15.016 those in favor? 00:50:15.040 --> 00:50:16.616 And motion's carried unanimously. Thank 00:50:16.640 --> 00:50:18.616 you. We now move to business precinct 00:50:18.640 --> 00:50:21.416 activation grants guidelines review. 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.335 Council Stefanopoulos, did you wish to 00:50:23.359 --> 00:50:24.376 move them? 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.376 No. 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.456 Although I do like them. I was looking 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.896 at the expression on your face. Council 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.616 chatter is going to move into the second 00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:34.856 council chatter. 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.880 Thank you, Mayor. Um so the business 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.136 economic activation grants um they're 00:50:40.160 --> 00:50:41.896 about supporting our local businesses 00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.055 particularly in the challenging economic 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.216 climate. Um and one of the things that 00:50:46.240 --> 00:50:49.240 we can do is um to support our traders 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.295 and our our local local shopping strips. 00:50:52.319 --> 00:50:53.815 And this is about activating those 00:50:53.839 --> 00:50:55.976 areas, increasing foot traffic, helping 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.376 traders attract customers um back into 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:00.776 activity centers with a pretty modest 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.575 investment. It's not just really funding 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.136 events. Um it's I think it's quite 00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:07.656 targeted investment in economic 00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:10.376 development and incentivizes and 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.376 inspires traders to collaborate and work 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.295 together. So that's the key thing. You 00:51:14.319 --> 00:51:16.136 can only get these grants if you work 00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:17.976 together as a group. Come up with 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.736 place-based and localized initiatives 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.055 that appeal to the the lo the locals 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.456 that who they know their customers and 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:26.936 make it very um yeah hyper local 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.176 programming in those neighborhoods. I 00:51:29.200 --> 00:51:31.095 think that that kind of brand and that 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:32.616 kind of approach is really important 00:51:32.640 --> 00:51:34.616 because it fosters sense of community 00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:37.176 and pride and belonging. Um helps you 00:51:37.200 --> 00:51:40.136 feel neighborhood pride. Um yeah, it 00:51:40.160 --> 00:51:41.896 creates vibrancy, supports local jobs 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:43.736 and strengthens the IDVR shopping 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.760 strips. Um our small businesses across 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.416 across the board are still recovering 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.575 from a range of pressures. We have a lot 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.016 of construction disruption, cost 00:51:53.040 --> 00:51:55.815 increases and changing consumer habits 00:51:55.839 --> 00:51:57.736 and programs like this can provide some 00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.416 immediate visible support where it's 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.136 needed and it also builds stronger 00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:03.815 partnerships with trader groups and it 00:52:03.839 --> 00:52:06.055 sets a foundation for long-term um 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.136 revitalization. So, I think this program 00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:10.216 is a really practical place-based 00:52:10.240 --> 00:52:12.376 response that delivers economic and 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:13.815 community benefit with a modest 00:52:13.839 --> 00:52:15.976 investment that can really have ripple 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.535 impacts for our neighborhoods. 00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.256 Thank you, Council Chhat. 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.280 I think Council Chowdery encapsulated 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.176 this and I'm very pleased that it's been 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:29.815 refined because um it's now directing 00:52:29.839 --> 00:52:31.575 the grants to be delivered in smaller 00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.599 neighborhood activity centers only. And 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.119 I've just looked at the number of 00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:41.240 u relevant shopping said strips 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.535 that will be included and 1 2 3 I 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.616 think seven are in my ward to high 00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:48.376 street. Were village central park 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.400 village village. Yeah. Um 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.016 Melbourne East terminus. Um so it's 00:52:55.040 --> 00:52:57.256 great because I think we all know how 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.280 our local shop traders businesses are 00:53:01.839 --> 00:53:03.335 doing at the moment. It's it's pretty 00:53:03.359 --> 00:53:05.736 tough out there and if we can do 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.216 something to help them in this way to 00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:10.456 promote who they are and what they do 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.480 then I think that's a great um thing for 00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:16.376 um our council to do and I think the 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.400 officers involved been working on this 00:53:19.520 --> 00:53:21.976 and thank you 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.000 speakers to the motion council Chad 00:53:25.359 --> 00:53:26.856 happy for us to put it all those in 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.535 favor 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.376 that motion's carried unanimously thank 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.456 you council we now that concludes 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.256 General business council we now move to 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.016 correspondence. Are there any items of 00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:40.040 correspondence to table C? 00:53:40.160 --> 00:53:41.736 There being none, we move to tableing of 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.376 petitions and joint. Oh, sorry. 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:45.256 Yeah, I may have. 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.280 Oh, sorry, Councelor Humphre. 00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:51.720 , a couple correspondents. one from 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.696 Romeo's restaurant interact with 00:53:54.720 --> 00:53:57.720 regard the disruptions in business as a 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.760 result having car park being leased out 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.976 as well as another correspondence from 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.000 the direcers regarding the same issue. 00:54:07.680 --> 00:54:09.335 Thank you. So you'll email them through 00:54:09.359 --> 00:54:12.359 to Zia and we'll table her. Yes. So just 00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:14.376 email them through to um Xavier. Thank 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.936 you. Councelor Humphre. Any other items 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.176 for correspondence? No. Council has been 00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:20.696 moved to tableabling of petitions and 00:54:20.720 --> 00:54:23.095 joint leaders. We have one petition 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.016 councelor Healey and another one from 00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:26.376 councelor Davis. Councelor Healey, 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.216 you've got a petition to overturn the 00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:30.055 direction of parking policy from Medley 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:32.696 Street. No. 00:54:32.720 --> 00:54:35.656 Well, we've got it. We've got it. So, 00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:38.055 I'll tailing it. We actually have the 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.936 soft copy of it. Apologies to you. Um, 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.656 so we'll we'll um 00:54:43.680 --> 00:54:45.256 firstly, we're going to vote to receive 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.656 that petition. Um and by doing so we 00:54:47.680 --> 00:54:49.416 will not indicate our support but rather 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.335 for our officers to investigate the 00:54:51.359 --> 00:54:54.359 matter um and respond back to the 00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.880 petitioners. So all those in favor to um 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.480 accept the petition for to overturn the 00:55:01.520 --> 00:55:04.216 direction of parking for Mill Street. So 00:55:04.240 --> 00:55:05.976 that's carried unanimously and we move 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.896 to another petition by councelor Davis 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.920 Re Telra area coverage in Central Park. 00:55:11.520 --> 00:55:13.416 Thank you madam. I actually have two 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:14.055 petitions. 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.079 Two. Okay. I might deal with the 00:55:17.359 --> 00:55:19.656 smaller one first because 00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:21.896 coincidentally it's involves Moira 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.216 Street which is near the border of the 00:55:24.240 --> 00:55:27.240 car wash. I'll just quickly read 00:55:28.160 --> 00:55:30.535 we the undersigned petition the merit 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.856 council of Stonington to install speed 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.880 hump traffic calming controls 00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:39.160 with 20k restrictions in War Street. We 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.599 have 20k restrictions. 00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:45.976 Yeah. It does get very 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.376 to prevent drivers from using this 00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.856 section of road as a racetrack to the 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.616 detriment of the homes and businesses 00:55:52.640 --> 00:55:54.696 joining Moira Street. I have to say I 00:55:54.720 --> 00:55:56.216 don't live that all that far from there 00:55:56.240 --> 00:55:58.535 and I well few streets away and I can 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.559 hear the whs riding over that hill. So 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.000 it obviously is an issue. So, um there 00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:08.936 are 11 signatures on this and I've 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.960 signed that thing and and 00:56:13.520 --> 00:56:15.256 the 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.280 I have here 00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:20.456 19 pages 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.480 which are 27 signatures on each page. 00:56:23.680 --> 00:56:26.680 These are roughly 500 signatures. I have 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:28.936 crossed out the ones who did not 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.095 provide their complete address. So, 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.496 unfortunately Emily and I have to 00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:36.055 count them. to be specific, but it's 00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.936 about 500 um signatures here and 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.696 there's more coming. So, I'll just 00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:43.720 quickly read what it's um we the sign 00:56:44.240 --> 00:56:45.656 petition the mayor and councils to 00:56:45.680 --> 00:56:47.815 advocate to Telra on behalf of 00:56:47.839 --> 00:56:49.736 Stonington residents in the Glen Iris 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.976 Mulan East precinct that connectivity 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.775 coverage in our area be vastly improved. 00:56:54.799 --> 00:56:56.535 Currently, residents have basic and 00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.496 inter intermittent access to internet 00:56:59.520 --> 00:57:02.520 mobile service. Now Jenny he Heather 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.656 Shaw who runs Heathershaw Pharmacy 00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:08.456 has begun this petition because of 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.480 frustration that not only locals who 00:57:11.680 --> 00:57:14.456 cannot get access to their if they're 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.416 with Chelra to their internet she 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.440 cannot talk to the local family clinic 00:57:21.359 --> 00:57:23.575 because there's no connectivity or 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.535 it's ad hoc and also there are 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.416 workers in the area that are frustrated. 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.815 So apparently word has spread that they 00:57:31.839 --> 00:57:34.775 want to make Telster understand what 00:57:34.799 --> 00:57:37.176 an issue this is and it was in the 00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:40.200 minutes from last our last meeting 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.400 where Malachi informed me that um a 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:46.696 meeting is being scheduled with Telster 00:57:46.720 --> 00:57:49.176 this month and the outcome will submit 00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:52.200 to council in June. So um meanwhile um 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.016 all these residents who have been doing 00:57:55.040 --> 00:57:56.856 this at work in this area wanted to make 00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.295 sure the message gets across that this 00:57:58.319 --> 00:58:01.319 is an issue um and um I 00:58:03.520 --> 00:58:05.335 thank you councelor do and I've just 00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:08.359 pulled up um councelory the medley have 00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.376 you got it so did you did you want to 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.456 just um well firstly let's accept the 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.176 two petitions so um I'll move that the 00:58:15.200 --> 00:58:17.575 two petitions from councelor Davis 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.216 Telster area coverage and second 00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:22.616 petition ition um for speed humps that 00:58:22.640 --> 00:58:25.640 are 20 km. 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.136 No, we don't. We don't. Um so that 00:58:28.160 --> 00:58:30.136 they're they're accepted. So all those 00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:32.696 in favor accepting those two petitions 00:58:32.720 --> 00:58:34.535 from council Davis. 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.559 Y that's carried. Thank you. Um so 00:58:37.680 --> 00:58:39.335 I'm moving back. So even though we've 00:58:39.359 --> 00:58:42.359 already endorsed Medley Street, it's 15 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.055 signaturies, but if you wanted to just 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.856 share what the concerns were. well, I 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.055 suppose just to note that I've been 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:51.079 getting a few similar concerns from um 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.575 other streets recently. I saw another 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.599 email as well about um getting now um 00:58:58.240 --> 00:59:00.696 told off for having cars parking 00:59:00.720 --> 00:59:02.775 different directions on a cold sack 00:59:02.799 --> 00:59:05.256 street which very narrow. So, um it 00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.176 seems that council has changed its 00:59:07.200 --> 00:59:08.136 perspective and 00:59:08.160 --> 00:59:09.976 it's always we're not never allowed to 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.000 do it, but maybe before we are and it's 00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:16.136 really disrupting um the lives of many 00:59:16.160 --> 00:59:19.160 people in South America. 00:59:33.040 --> 00:59:34.535 It's the record of the council briefing 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.559 session held on the 4th of May. Um can I 00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:39.976 firstly there are any questions? No. Can 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:41.176 I have a move in a second? 00:59:41.200 --> 00:59:41.815 So moved. 00:59:41.839 --> 00:59:43.736 Um thank you councelor. Seconded 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.760 councelor Davis. Um so all those in 00:59:47.040 --> 00:59:49.095 favor to 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.119 drop those um records for that briefing 00:59:52.319 --> 00:59:54.055 session. Thank you. That's carried 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.079 unanimously. Council, we now move to 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.376 questions to council officers this 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.856 evening. 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.976 Council Hill. 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.535 Thank you. Um 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.335 on notice which I know is coming out at 01:00:09.359 --> 01:00:12.359 this moment but Clara Street um is a 01:00:12.640 --> 01:00:14.856 matter I'm recently contacted about by 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.616 residents with ongoing concerns about 01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:18.696 the volume of illegally dumped rubbish 01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:21.720 on the street. um council is aware of a 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.016 particular residential building um which 01:00:25.040 --> 01:00:28.040 has been used um 01:00:28.319 --> 01:00:30.775 for social housing in Clara Street 01:00:30.799 --> 01:00:33.736 that's um potentially the source of a 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:35.896 lot of this dump rubbish. So I was 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.055 wondering if officers could provide um 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:40.055 captive data on the volume of illegally 01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.136 dumped rubbish collected from car street 01:00:42.160 --> 01:00:44.616 over the last few years basically before 01:00:44.640 --> 01:00:46.456 it changed use and then after it changed 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.256 use um including any trend data that 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:50.616 would allow us to understand whether or 01:00:50.640 --> 01:00:52.376 not collection rates have changed over 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.016 time. Um and I would love it if that 01:00:55.040 --> 01:00:57.736 could be um connected with an estimate 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.055 about the annual cost to council of 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.136 managing illegal dumping happening at 01:01:02.160 --> 01:01:05.160 that particular location. Um I'm aware 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.496 that there's other places around 01:01:07.520 --> 01:01:09.575 Stonnington which have similar concerns. Um 01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:12.055 but Clara is in in my ward and one that 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.079 I'm hearing about frequently. Um and it 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.936 seems that it's not necessarily 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.016 improving at all. 01:01:19.040 --> 01:01:20.696 Thank you councelor Hillary. Are there 01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:23.720 any other questions to council officers? 01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:27.240 Councelor Humphre. 01:01:27.520 --> 01:01:30.520 Thanks. Thank you. um to 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.000 the road hazard lodged on the 22nd of 01:01:39.359 --> 01:01:41.335 April and the 7th of May which was 01:01:41.359 --> 01:01:44.359 closed as it was deemed to be adequately 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:46.696 safe again. 01:01:46.720 --> 01:01:48.775 How come the road was not cleared of the 01:01:48.799 --> 01:01:51.016 debris and when is the next road 01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:53.095 clearance going to be scheduled for one 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.119 McMaster Court interact 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:00.936 notice 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.960 been taken on notice council Humphre 01:02:05.680 --> 01:02:07.335 next question 01:02:07.359 --> 01:02:08.936 sorry I just cut out 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.960 taken notice 01:02:12.319 --> 01:02:15.256 cool thank you um regarding the parking 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.280 per digital system. How long is visitor 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.656 information retained in our data 01:02:21.680 --> 01:02:24.680 systems? 01:02:27.680 --> 01:02:29.815 three. We'll take that on notice and 01:02:29.839 --> 01:02:31.736 provide response back. 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:34.760 Taken on notice. Councelor Humphre. 01:02:36.319 --> 01:02:37.656 All right. Thank you. Any other 01:02:37.680 --> 01:02:39.976 questions? 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.000 So, I have a question um to Cath Harold. 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.496 um 01:02:45.520 --> 01:02:48.295 what is council's policy around 01:02:48.319 --> 01:02:50.696 Stunnington funded 01:02:50.720 --> 01:02:53.095 um organizations and I'm referring to 01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:56.119 the toy library um based out of the 01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:59.176 Bank Street Estate endorsing political 01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:01.095 candidates particularly in the leadup to 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.016 an election. this isn't the first 01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:04.696 time it's occurred. It's the second year 01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:06.936 in a row um that they've been 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.936 criticizing particular political party 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:11.416 being agreements in their annual or 01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:13.976 their events in relation to our 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.000 children's clothing through I'll take 01:03:17.200 --> 01:03:18.775 that on those just as there's a bit of 01:03:18.799 --> 01:03:21.799 detail in terms of that arrangement um 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:23.656 there is some clear statements in our 01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:26.055 community grants guidelines um around 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.079 political and religious um sponsorship I 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:31.976 suppose their words so I I'll take it on 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:33.416 those my response this week. 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.015 All right. Thank you, C. Thank you, Miss 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:38.039 Harold. , councilors, we now move to 01:03:38.319 --> 01:03:39.656 urgent business. Are there any owners of 01:03:39.680 --> 01:03:41.575 urgent business? 01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:43.496 There being none, um, councilors, are 01:03:43.520 --> 01:03:45.176 there any items of general business to 01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:47.095 raise this evening? Councelor Davis. 01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:50.119 Thank you, Mayor. 01:03:50.319 --> 01:03:53.319 this is to um inform councils that 01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:57.240 several residents informed me last week 01:03:57.359 --> 01:03:59.335 that flies relating to council's 01:03:59.359 --> 01:04:01.416 upcoming council budget were distributed 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:04.440 my award. One resident recognized the 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.216 faces of the two men featured in the 01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:09.240 flyer which I have here. 01:04:09.839 --> 01:04:12.456 unfortunately snails got to it before 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:13.575 the resident did. 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.599 That is a shame. um and wondered why 01:04:16.799 --> 01:04:18.376 they did not declare themselves to be 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.456 current Steinington councilors. I 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.256 wondered that too. But what really irks 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:25.015 me is the lack of transparency in 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:26.775 promoting what is referred to as a 01:04:26.799 --> 01:04:29.575 better plan, a purported budget 01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.136 alternative, which is really two A4 01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:35.160 pages containing a rambling list of 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.815 platitudes, generalizations, and 01:04:37.839 --> 01:04:40.295 inaccuracies. and it was concocted 01:04:40.319 --> 01:04:42.535 without any due diligence, no financial, 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.496 legal or operational due diligence. 01:04:45.520 --> 01:04:47.416 Every councelor participated in 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.815 pre-budget discussions, workshops and 01:04:49.839 --> 01:04:51.496 briefings, and we all had the 01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:54.456 opportunity to raise issues of concern. 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:55.815 That's why I'm surprised that some of 01:04:55.839 --> 01:04:57.416 these topics were not raised earlier 01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:59.095 with us instead of being put in the 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.575 public domain without any context or 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.295 evidence to support some of the demands. 01:05:04.319 --> 01:05:07.319 This flyer refers to a better plan, but 01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:10.535 using Aussie vernacular, I've dubbed it 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.535 the Clayton's plan. The plan you have 01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.216 when you don't really have a plan. It is 01:05:14.240 --> 01:05:16.856 illusory and it lacks substance. The 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.696 Clayton's plan proclaims we should 01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:21.720 reduce council rates by 1%. which 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:24.295 disregards the ongoing increasing cost 01:05:24.319 --> 01:05:26.295 to this council and for that matter all 01:05:26.319 --> 01:05:29.256 of Victoria's 79 council as we try to 01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.496 maneuver the financial maze among the 01:05:31.520 --> 01:05:33.335 stringent restraints imposed by the 01:05:33.359 --> 01:05:35.496 federal and state governments especially 01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:38.376 the rate cap the rising CPI and 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:40.456 subsequently interest rates and the 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:43.335 current crisis in the Middle East. A 1% 01:05:43.359 --> 01:05:46.216 rate cut would remove $1.6 $6 million 01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:48.295 from council's budget next year or 01:05:48.319 --> 01:05:51.319 nearly $13 million over the next decade. 01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:53.736 Indeed, I do not know of what any other 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:55.815 council in Victorian has contemplated a 01:05:55.839 --> 01:05:57.496 rate cut. 01:05:57.520 --> 01:05:58.136 Yeah, 01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:00.856 I do not presume to speak for the six 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.015 other councilors. They are not aware of 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.616 my decision to speak on this matter 01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:06.856 tonight. But from a personal level and 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:08.295 as a member of the audit and risk 01:06:08.319 --> 01:06:10.295 committee, I found this extraordinary 01:06:10.319 --> 01:06:13.319 approach to be demeaning. It also belies 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.575 the commitment councilors and council 01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:18.136 officers undertook to produce a draft 01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:21.160 budget we believe was pragmatic and fair 01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:23.015 as we strive for financial 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.976 sustainability now and in the future. In 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.496 conclusion, 01:06:27.520 --> 01:06:30.520 this is not a plan. This is a plan 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.079 and other iterations of it. Thank you. 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.440 Thank you. 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:41.896 are there other items of general 01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.920 business to raise this evening? 01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:48.055 All right, councilors. Um we now move 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:51.079 into confidential business. Um noting 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.095 put it to the vote to move into 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.696 confidential business. So all those in 01:06:54.720 --> 01:06:56.535 favor to move into confidential 01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.559 business. Councelor Bell going to vote 01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:03.160 for it. Okay. Thank you. Um all right. 01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:04.376 So we're moving into confidential 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:05.896 business. So can I please ask members of 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:07.656 the gallery to please lead? Thank you 01:07:07.680 --> 01:07:10.680 for joining us this evening. Um we 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.656 thank you councelor Hilly. We've now 01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:18.216 completed confidential business and I 01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:19.815 now formally declare this council 01:07:19.839 --> 01:07:22.839 meeting closed at 8:20 p.m. Thank you 01:07:23.839 --> 01:07:25.496 councelors. It's a it was a long 01:07:25.520 --> 01:07:27.976 meeting, a very um jam-packed meeting 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.896 and lots of big decisions made. Um thank 01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.256 you to everyone that dialed in this 01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.815 evening. Wishing you a happy week. Stay 01:07:33.839 --> 01:07:35.896 warm. Weather's turning on us, but 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.736 winter's coming. But yeah, wishing you a 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:39.176 fabulous week ahead and look forward to 01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:40.936 seeing you in a fortnight time. Thank 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.960 you.