WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.776 Good evening and welcome to the Stonnington of 00:00:02.800 --> 00:00:04.616 Stonnington council meeting Monday the 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:07.176 20th of July 2026. I'm councelor Melina 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.736 Sehr Mayor of Stonnington. I'll 00:00:09.760 --> 00:00:11.256 begin with this reading of the statement 00:00:11.280 --> 00:00:13.336 of reconciliation. We acknowledge that 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:14.695 we're meeting on the traditional land of 00:00:14.719 --> 00:00:16.696 the Wrundjeri Woi Wurrung and Bunurong Peoples 00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:18.296 of the East Kulin Nations and pay our 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:19.656 respects to their Elders past and 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:22.456 present. We extend our respect to all 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.136 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:25.816 Peoples. We acknowledge their living 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:27.736 connection to country, relationship to 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:29.095 the land, and all living things 00:00:29.119 --> 00:00:30.936 extending back tens of thousands of 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.496 years. We now move on to our statement 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.736 of commitment. We're reminded that as 00:00:35.760 --> 00:00:37.656 councilors, we're bound by our oath of 00:00:37.680 --> 00:00:39.176 office to undertake the duties of 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:40.776 councelor in the best interest of the 00:00:40.800 --> 00:00:42.456 people of Stonnington and to 00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:44.055 faithful and impartially carry out the 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.136 functions, powers, authorities, and 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:48.296 discretions vested in us under the local 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.456 government act and any other relevant 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:53.480 act. Before we introduce the councilors 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.096 and officers, I'd like to take this 00:00:55.120 --> 00:00:57.175 opportunity to remind our attendees of 00:00:57.199 --> 00:00:59.015 the behavioral expectations at council 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:01.175 meetings. Members of the public are not 00:01:01.199 --> 00:01:03.175 permitted to address the council and may 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:05.896 only do so with the consent of the chair 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.056 or by prior arrangement. Council 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:09.496 provides an opportunity for public 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:11.176 engagement through the questions to 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:12.936 council officers from the community 00:01:12.960 --> 00:01:14.455 section of the meeting, which requires 00:01:14.479 --> 00:01:16.536 pre-registration with our governance 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:18.376 team. Any member of the public 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.216 addressing the council must extend due 00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:22.056 courtesy and respect to the council and 00:01:22.080 --> 00:01:23.735 the processes under which it operates 00:01:23.759 --> 00:01:25.976 and must take direction from the chair 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.216 whenever called upon to do so. A member 00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:29.816 of the public in attendance at a council 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.415 meeting must not disrupt the meeting. 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:32.856 Any member of the public who disrupts 00:01:32.880 --> 00:01:34.296 the meeting or fails to comply with 00:01:34.320 --> 00:01:36.936 direction I have issued may be removed 00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:38.775 from the council meeting. And I'm sure 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:40.216 we're not going to have an issue here 00:01:40.240 --> 00:01:42.536 this evening. Um now I'll introduce 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.216 councils around the table. To my left 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:46.536 from Toorak Ward, councelor Tom Humphries 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:48.616 from Orrrong Ward and our Deputy Mayor, 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.936 councelor Samantha Choudhury from Wattletree 00:01:50.960 --> 00:01:52.856 Ward, fresh from her overseas trip, 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:54.455 councelor Steve Stefanopoulos. We 00:01:54.479 --> 00:01:56.135 missed you, Steve. Welcome back. And 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.455 from Tooronga Ward, councelor Jamie Bell. 00:01:58.479 --> 00:02:00.616 And from Hedgeley Dene we have councelor 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.296 Sally Davis. And from Malvern Valley 00:02:02.320 --> 00:02:04.055 Ward, we have councelor Jamie Klisaris 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.296 who's dialing in this evening. From Como 00:02:06.320 --> 00:02:07.976 ward, councelor Meghan Hopper. And from 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.536 South Ward, councelor Kate Hely. And 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.536 now our executive manager of governance 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.456 and public affairs Xavier Smerdon will 00:02:14.480 --> 00:02:15.976 introduce the staff here this evening. 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:17.016 Thank you Xavier. 00:02:17.040 --> 00:02:19.096 Thank you and through you may from 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.416 the gallery this evening we have ? 00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:24.376 Pitcher our IT desktop support officer. 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.295 Behind us is Emily Stockdale the senior 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.456 governance officer and Evelyn the 00:02:28.480 --> 00:02:30.855 governance officer. To your far right is 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.376 Julia Galacce the chief financial 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.536 officer Hannah McBride Burgess the 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:36.456 acting director community and planning 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:38.935 and Phil Ghoul the coordinator statutory 00:02:38.959 --> 00:02:41.256 planning. To your far left is Simon 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:42.696 Holloway, director of environment 00:02:42.720 --> 00:02:44.855 infrastructure and Daniela Mazzone, 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:46.536 director of organization capability and 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:49.096 to your immediate right he is ? 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.976 acting CEO. Thank you, Mr. Smerdon and 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.656 councilor. Do we have any apologies for 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.680 future meetings? 00:02:56.720 --> 00:02:58.935 There being none, we move to adoption 00:02:58.959 --> 00:03:01.016 and confirmations previous meetings and 00:03:01.040 --> 00:03:03.256 we have one set of meetings listed 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:05.016 for adoption this evening and those are 00:03:05.040 --> 00:03:07.656 the meetings from the 29th of June. Are 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:08.935 there any questions or proposed 00:03:08.959 --> 00:03:11.176 amendments to those? No. Can I have a 00:03:11.200 --> 00:03:12.616 mover and a second to those minutes? 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:14.376 Moved. Councelor Davis, seconded. 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.016 Councelor Hely. Any comments? No. I'll 00:03:17.040 --> 00:03:19.736 put the motion. All those in favor? 00:03:19.760 --> 00:03:21.176 Those minutes are adopted. Thank you, 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:24.200 councilors. We now move to disclosure 00:03:25.200 --> 00:03:26.616 by councilors of any conflicts of 00:03:26.640 --> 00:03:29.096 interest on items being discussed 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.120 this evening. There being none we 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.295 have no submissions from the community 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.935 for tonight's meeting. So we'll 00:03:36.959 --> 00:03:39.416 move straight into general business 00:03:39.440 --> 00:03:41.575 counselors that was quick. Was it 4 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.736 minutes past the hour? Doing well. All 00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:46.536 right. So, item 8.1, we have planning 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.336 amendment for number 12 Donald Street 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.495 Prahrah. Councilors, you'll see that there's 00:03:51.519 --> 00:03:53.495 an officer recommendation in your packs 00:03:53.519 --> 00:03:54.935 and there's also an alternate 00:03:54.959 --> 00:03:57.816 recommendation for refusal that I'm 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.708 putting forward this evening. Did 00:03:59.732 --> 00:04:00.295 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.016 so I will commence by moving a 00:04:03.040 --> 00:04:05.336 refusal thank you councelor 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.575 Stefanopoulos as the second half. So, 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:09.415 can I ask that refusal be put up on the 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.896 screen now that it's been moved? Thank 00:04:11.920 --> 00:04:14.920 you, Evelyn. 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.360 All right. So councilors, I shared 00:04:18.479 --> 00:04:20.455 some photos today. I went out on 00:04:20.479 --> 00:04:23.016 site on the weekend this is one 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.096 that we discussed around the table 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.336 and we've had presentations by our 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.056 officers very unfortunate situation 00:04:30.080 --> 00:04:31.895 where there was initially a permit 00:04:31.919 --> 00:04:34.776 granted and and during the construction 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.800 it was shown that the survey of 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.240 the land was had the front original 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:44.840 facade of the dwelling um 800 mil less 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.536 than what it actually was which resulted 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.560 in the bulk of the extension which 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:54.216 ended up being 120 ml built higher than 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.136 it should have been being very prominent 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.615 from the street. So for those who 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.216 know Gril Street, it's a very intact 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.136 heritage street. Magnificent homes, a 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.936 heritage overlay. Heritage is very um 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:06.376 important to the residents in that 00:05:06.400 --> 00:05:08.376 street and it's very important that it 00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:10.776 be protected. This particular site, it's 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.416 a much smaller block. Um it sits between 00:05:13.440 --> 00:05:15.656 a number of double fronted beautiful um 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.416 homes that have been restored and 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:19.656 extended in accordance with the current 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.376 heritage overlay and our policy. This 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:25.400 particular site does um a 00:05:26.960 --> 00:05:29.416 just jut up above and behind that facade 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:31.895 and it's not what we'd expect from our 00:05:31.919 --> 00:05:34.536 heritage overlay whereby you should be 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.376 able to stand across the road and look 00:05:36.400 --> 00:05:39.400 up and not see a visual box. Um what's 00:05:40.080 --> 00:05:42.696 here before us is in relation to um the 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.455 visibility from the street because it is 00:05:44.479 --> 00:05:46.776 heritage but I have to say um visiting 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:48.696 the adjoining neighbors um there is a 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.056 lot of visual bug that they have to 00:05:50.080 --> 00:05:52.856 contend with on their sides. So, um we 00:05:52.880 --> 00:05:55.096 have an unfortunate situation where the 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.816 upper story has been the frame has 00:05:57.840 --> 00:05:59.496 been built and enclosed to protect it 00:05:59.520 --> 00:06:01.175 from the weather. it hasn't been 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.175 fitted out. I did um see that there's no 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.416 flooring and there's um it's just a 00:06:05.440 --> 00:06:07.015 frame at the moment, but it does have a 00:06:07.039 --> 00:06:10.039 roof on it. So, um very awkward and 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.096 unfortunate situation to be in, but I'm 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.256 not prepared to move it with the office 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:16.936 of recommendation for approval. I think 00:06:16.960 --> 00:06:19.015 that it does compromise the heritage 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:21.416 that's currently there and has potential 00:06:21.440 --> 00:06:23.256 to impact the heritage moving forward in 00:06:23.280 --> 00:06:25.175 that street if it's set as a precedent. 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.056 Hence my reason for a refusal. 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:30.056 Council Stefanopoulos is my second. 00:06:30.080 --> 00:06:31.816 Nothing else to say. Very well said. 00:06:31.840 --> 00:06:33.735 All right. Thank you. any other 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.696 comments, councilors? 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.175 Council Hopper. um just to say that I 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.136 was out um visiting the area on Saturday 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.160 and talking to residents who are home um 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.735 to speak to it. It's one of those ones 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.136 when you first read it in the report and 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.160 it doesn't seem like a a large amount um 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:54.936 that you're talking about, but the 00:06:54.960 --> 00:06:57.895 visual bulk is indeed very visible um 00:06:57.919 --> 00:06:59.575 from the street, particularly when 00:06:59.599 --> 00:07:02.599 you're walking in a subly direction from 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:05.960 Greml Street. Um and I think when you 00:07:06.080 --> 00:07:08.776 encounter examples like this, you know, 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.800 we have similar precincts um in 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.976 currently recommended in the Sierra 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.416 Heritage Study that's out for 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:18.440 consultation at the moment. um such as 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.256 around the sort of Osborne Hardy Street 00:07:21.280 --> 00:07:24.280 type precinct where the heritage 00:07:25.840 --> 00:07:28.536 significance of the precinct is very 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.336 much grounded in exactly that it is the 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.816 precinct as opposed to the significance 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:36.840 of you know an individual property and 00:07:37.039 --> 00:07:40.039 the moment you approve something like 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.895 this it 00:07:43.919 --> 00:07:46.056 affects the precinct overall like I 00:07:46.080 --> 00:07:48.216 think it has an overwhelming impact on 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.240 the precinct and creates a sort of 00:07:51.599 --> 00:07:52.936 precedent. And I know that in the 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:54.536 officer's report it says that it won't 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:55.895 create a precedent, but I don't know how 00:07:55.919 --> 00:07:58.056 it can't. Like I don't know how it can't 00:07:58.080 --> 00:08:01.080 create a president if you say yes to 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:02.855 this 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.416 going against our heritage guidelines 00:08:05.440 --> 00:08:08.440 and rules um in the future that will be 00:08:09.599 --> 00:08:11.816 used as the basis on which other 00:08:11.840 --> 00:08:14.136 properties in the precinct go against 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.136 our heritage guidelines and rules. I 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:17.575 have to say that I was really on the 00:08:17.599 --> 00:08:20.599 fence about this one. Um but having 00:08:21.599 --> 00:08:23.976 heard the arguments and read the 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.136 correspondence from um some of the 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.160 objectors and also you know from um the 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:31.895 applicant and you know been out there on 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:33.575 site and considered it within the 00:08:33.599 --> 00:08:36.296 context of the overarching precinct. I 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.375 think I have to agree that it's not 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.216 worth approving and that we have to sort 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.455 of stick with what our heritage 00:08:42.479 --> 00:08:45.016 guidelines tell us. Thank you, Council 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:47.336 Hopper, Council Chad Reed. 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.360 Thanks, May. Um, yeah, similar um, , 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.616 views as council Hopper went out there 00:08:54.640 --> 00:08:57.640 um, , earlier this week as well. And, 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.375 um, I just wanted to say that um, 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.336 council has invested considerable time 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.136 in developing its heritage policy and we 00:09:06.160 --> 00:09:09.160 we continue to try and um, protect our 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.416 neighborhood character um, 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.375 significantly. As we know, we live um 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.375 and so much of Donington is in a high 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.296 change, high growth area. And I think 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:20.616 residents um applicants and the broader 00:09:20.640 --> 00:09:23.016 community rightly expect that we that 00:09:23.040 --> 00:09:25.255 these policies are applied consistently. 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.656 And I know and I similar to Council Hop, 00:09:27.680 --> 00:09:29.255 I read the report. I didn't think it was 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.456 a big deal. Then I went to the street 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.536 and then I you know, it's also part of 00:09:32.560 --> 00:09:35.176 my neighborhood and area and I really 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.416 appreciate that these are exceptional 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.656 circumstances. There was an error. 00:09:39.680 --> 00:09:41.416 However, it should not create a 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:43.736 precedent because these decisions that 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:46.760 we make inevitably become part of 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:49.976 future applicants that we that they 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:51.736 refer to these decisions that we make. 00:09:51.760 --> 00:09:53.736 And so, it's difficult to explain why 00:09:53.760 --> 00:09:56.760 one non-compliant proposal was supported 00:09:56.880 --> 00:09:59.176 and then another is not. Um, if it 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.576 wasn't a street with heritage overlay 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.456 and it was just this oneoff era, this 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.480 would be be different. But um um yeah, 00:10:07.680 --> 00:10:10.680 that's why I'll probably be supporting 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.720 um this um refusal. 00:10:14.640 --> 00:10:16.456 Yes. Thank you, Council Cher. Councelor 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.416 Bell. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.896 Thank you, Mayor. Can I ask a question? 00:10:19.920 --> 00:10:20.616 Absolutely. 00:10:20.640 --> 00:10:22.456 I'm just wondering what the implications 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.255 of refusal might be for the applicant. 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:28.279 If anyone can shed some light on that. 00:10:29.760 --> 00:10:32.375 Yeah, thank you, Madam Mayor. Um the 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.399 next step for any party likely. So any 00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:37.736 decision that's made tonight through 00:10:37.760 --> 00:10:40.536 refusal can be appealed by any party and 00:10:40.560 --> 00:10:42.296 that would be I can't speculate what 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.776 that would do but I suspect that the 00:10:44.800 --> 00:10:46.456 next step 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.536 which would probably be mediation and 00:10:48.560 --> 00:10:51.495 then potentially hearing thereafter. 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:52.776 Did you does that answer your question? 00:10:52.800 --> 00:10:53.336 Did you 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.016 Yeah, thank you. I might just carry on a 00:10:55.040 --> 00:10:56.216 little bit if that's okay. Thanks, 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.240 mayor. I mean, I agree with the first 00:10:59.920 --> 00:11:02.216 two or three speakers. I think it's a 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.216 really difficult one. Clearly, there's 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.176 the issue of potentially creating a 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.136 precedence. I'm not 100% sure that 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:11.495 applies in this case, although I 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.896 understand the argument. Um, I don't 00:11:13.920 --> 00:11:15.976 think from what I've read, from what 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.935 I've heard, that this is an attempt to 00:11:18.959 --> 00:11:21.576 go around the planning system to achieve 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.600 an outcome. Um, and I think that the 00:11:25.920 --> 00:11:28.456 penalty for perhaps having a refusal 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.255 here might outweigh the potential 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.976 material impact to heritage. So, look, 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.736 it is a hard one. It's not an outcome. 00:11:35.760 --> 00:11:38.760 It's not a it's not a it's not an 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.016 experience that we want to have 00:11:41.040 --> 00:11:42.144 continuing in the future, but 00:11:42.168 --> 00:11:44.616 [clears throat] I think based on 00:11:44.640 --> 00:11:47.640 the evidence um I'm reluctant to support 00:11:48.640 --> 00:11:50.136 this and prepared to give the applicant 00:11:50.160 --> 00:11:51.896 the benefit of the doubt in this case. 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:53.576 But I'll listen to others and make the 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:55.495 determination 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.416 when the when the um argument is 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:57.896 finished. 00:11:57.920 --> 00:11:59.576 Thank you, Council Council. 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.976 Thanks. Um just further to um councelor 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.000 Bal's question I suppose I wanted to 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.440 understand what um if if it was refused 00:12:08.959 --> 00:12:11.736 by council and refused a va does that 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:14.296 mean that the that the applicant 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.136 essentially has to rebuild like what 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:19.016 what is what is the implication that 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:22.040 yeah through you mad may if it is if 00:12:22.160 --> 00:12:25.160 does go to reviews incor 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:27.336 framework which could involve 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.360 rectification 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:37.160 I think um watching a neighbors build 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.255 change shape for reasons that weren't in 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.279 your control is genuinely upsetting. Um 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:46.216 and I don't think any of us would feel 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.216 differently to how the objectives are 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:49.576 feeling in this in their position. And 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:51.255 so I understand why this motion's been 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.495 moved and and how it comes from a real 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.519 um place. Um I think like um council 00:12:56.959 --> 00:12:59.959 bell I feel that to refuse it would be 00:13:01.760 --> 00:13:04.760 to create such a huge impulse on the 00:13:04.880 --> 00:13:07.255 applicant um which I think is an 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.279 imbalance to the to the to the issue 00:13:10.560 --> 00:13:13.560 that's at play um 00:13:13.680 --> 00:13:15.736 from the reports that council has given 00:13:15.760 --> 00:13:18.696 us that um 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:21.656 the the evidence doesn't support that 00:13:21.680 --> 00:13:24.375 the um the upper level 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.055 detrimentally impacts the heritage 00:13:26.079 --> 00:13:28.615 character under the clauses um quoted 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.576 the report. Um council's heritage 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.216 officers found that um that the addition 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.240 was recessive in its current state. Um 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.055 and an independent heritage firm also 00:13:40.079 --> 00:13:42.536 reached the same conclusion. I feel that 00:13:42.560 --> 00:13:44.856 this isn't a new design being tested for 00:13:44.880 --> 00:13:46.536 the first time. The core issue is a 00:13:46.560 --> 00:13:49.560 surveying error, not a change of intent. 00:13:49.760 --> 00:13:51.495 Um 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.976 and although I hear the discussion about 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.456 president officers also point to a 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.776 comparative approval of 8 Donald Street 00:13:58.800 --> 00:14:01.736 in 2021 which was above the heritage 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:04.456 sideline. So I think refusing it on 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.375 these grounds when we've accepted 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.399 something similarly then um I I think 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.440 that's concerning as well. Um but then 00:14:13.920 --> 00:14:16.536 you know I I I strongly feel for the for 00:14:16.560 --> 00:14:18.216 the residents and the neighbors in the 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.696 community and and also that sense that 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.375 when something like this happens in the 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.456 place that you want to live then it 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.136 creates this awful dissonance with the 00:14:26.160 --> 00:14:28.296 neighbors that you want to you know 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:30.055 eventually be able to be on good terms 00:14:30.079 --> 00:14:32.216 with. So it's a really hard thing for 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.096 everyone to go through with. Um, but I 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.216 don't think I can support the 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.375 alternative recommendation because I 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:41.399 just don't think the balance of 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.519 of intent to what was created is strong 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:47.416 enough for us to to refuse it. 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:48.776 All right. Thank you, Councelor Hely. 00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:50.935 Other speakers to the motion. 00:14:50.959 --> 00:14:53.959 , just briefly, may um I I have to say 00:14:54.959 --> 00:14:57.336 that I empathize with councelor Hely's 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.055 comments on this. Um, ever since we had 00:15:00.079 --> 00:15:03.079 a briefing about this, um, I made some 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.495 comments, , regarding this. I won't 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.416 repeat here, but I, , I do have 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.440 genuine concerns as well. And, um, 00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:15.815 it's retrospective approval really. I 00:15:15.839 --> 00:15:18.696 mean, um, which, , we wouldn't 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.720 normally do. Um, it's again, , what 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.696 the situations creates for the for the 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.720 owner. Um, I understand the the angst by 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.456 the residents, but I think I have to 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:32.856 support the office's recommendation. 00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:35.880 Thank you, Councelor Davis. Um, 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.776 Councelor Casares. 00:15:38.800 --> 00:15:41.175 Thank you, Mayor. Um, look, I can 00:15:41.199 --> 00:15:42.935 appreciate how it does seem like a 00:15:42.959 --> 00:15:45.096 tricky one, but in my mind, it's it's 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.175 quite black and white. We have the 00:15:47.199 --> 00:15:49.255 heritage overlay. It really is the 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.815 highest level of protection that we can 00:15:51.839 --> 00:15:53.976 apply and only in very limited 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.136 circumstances. We're very lucky in this 00:15:56.160 --> 00:15:58.536 Stonnington. Um it's more than luck. This 00:15:58.560 --> 00:16:00.536 council has done work over numerous 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:03.336 decades. I think about 50% of Stonnington 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.896 is covered by heritage overlay. And in 00:16:05.920 --> 00:16:08.920 an era of high density, medium density 00:16:09.680 --> 00:16:11.735 state government pushing their housing 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.456 agenda. you know, our community is 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.615 changing in many ways, including the way 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.536 it looks and and all the people moving 00:16:18.560 --> 00:16:21.560 in and all that. And so protecting what 00:16:21.920 --> 00:16:24.536 little character and heritage that we 00:16:24.560 --> 00:16:27.560 have is vitally important. And that's 00:16:27.680 --> 00:16:29.656 why we have these rules and these 00:16:29.680 --> 00:16:32.680 policies and planning schemes in place. 00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:35.016 It doesn't matter to me why this 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:37.255 happened, whether intentional or genuine 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.336 mistake, completely irrelevant. It's 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.735 happened. as councelor Davis has said it 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.296 is a bit like retrospective approval and 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:46.856 just because it has been built um 00:16:46.880 --> 00:16:49.255 doesn't change my view I think back to 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.255 what if it hadn't been built and the 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.896 owner wanted approval to go this extra 00:16:53.920 --> 00:16:55.735 height I think it would probably 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.536 unanimously be saying no um so just 00:16:58.560 --> 00:17:00.296 because it has been built I'm I'm really 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.320 not letting that factor into my vote too 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.456 much um similarly what might happen at 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.935 VCAP if it does go there or not is 00:17:08.959 --> 00:17:11.096 absolutely relevant to the way that we 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:13.496 need to consider this and any planning 00:17:13.520 --> 00:17:16.456 application. Um, we have policies, we 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:17.815 have to stand by them. We need to 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:20.839 protect what we have. Um, and you know, 00:17:21.520 --> 00:17:23.336 you I'm sure it's really hard for the 00:17:23.360 --> 00:17:24.935 owner. It's going to come at an 00:17:24.959 --> 00:17:26.935 additional cost to them. But really the 00:17:26.959 --> 00:17:29.816 right thing to do is to rectify this and 00:17:29.840 --> 00:17:32.840 build or do the renovation in line with 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.655 the approval that council provided 00:17:35.679 --> 00:17:37.576 because that permit had gone through, 00:17:37.600 --> 00:17:39.976 you know, a very very robust process 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:41.816 where we're still allowing the second 00:17:41.840 --> 00:17:44.840 story but in a heritage overlay where um 00:17:45.360 --> 00:17:48.216 we're ensuring that there isn't very 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.216 much an impact to the surrounding 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:51.655 properties. 00:17:51.679 --> 00:17:54.616 Thank you, Councilman. Um so everyone 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.775 spoken council Stephan you sorry 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.799 councelor freeze over to you my question 00:17:59.919 --> 00:18:01.096 please 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:04.120 um to the extension in question was that 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.336 built to the height of the permit given 00:18:07.360 --> 00:18:10.360 to them 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.559 through the this particular 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.535 application also seeks a retrospective 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.559 approval or 120 mil increase so the 00:18:19.600 --> 00:18:21.976 extension's partly built it's not 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.000 finished so the short answer is no. 00:18:25.520 --> 00:18:27.655 So the structure that exists 00:18:27.679 --> 00:18:29.496 so do the structure that exists today on 00:18:29.520 --> 00:18:32.520 that site is that within the planning 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.200 permit given to them 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.015 and to reiterate it's part that's not 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:42.039 finished but the chances are 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.559 120 mil high 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:47.816 council stepping up please. 00:18:47.840 --> 00:18:50.616 Um this is not this is an easier one to 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.640 deal with. It's non-compliant. 00:18:53.919 --> 00:18:56.919 Someone stuffed up. It wasn't us. It was 00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:59.336 probably the applicant or there or 00:18:59.360 --> 00:19:01.176 someone that the applicant paid to do 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.736 the work. Shoddy workmanship here. I'm 00:19:03.760 --> 00:19:05.496 not supporting this shoddy workmanship. 00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:07.816 If this happened in anyone else's 00:19:07.840 --> 00:19:09.496 neighborhood 00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:12.520 in the Gascoin estate in South Yara or 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.696 in Turk, there would be uproar around 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:16.056 this table. But because it's happening 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:19.080 in your ward in little pan, we're going 00:19:19.280 --> 00:19:21.895 to be a bit more lenient. rubbish. 00:19:21.919 --> 00:19:24.616 Council is correct. I don't care that 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.936 it's been built. I care that someone 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.655 stuffed up and now someone's asking us 00:19:29.679 --> 00:19:32.679 to fix their mess. No. 00:19:33.120 --> 00:19:36.120 Welcome back, council members. 00:19:37.360 --> 00:19:39.576 Do we miss that? 00:19:39.600 --> 00:19:41.576 Thank you. All right. Now, I'll um just 00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:43.895 respond to items raised in the debate. 00:19:43.919 --> 00:19:46.775 So, firstly, I'll add um whilst there's 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.216 a frame there, there is still an 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.456 opportunity. We're not talking about um 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.480 you know plastering, painting all fit 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.696 out. There is an opportunity. This is 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.256 the time to do it. Um and this is the 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:02.280 right time. And I I would be certainly 00:20:02.320 --> 00:20:04.376 it' be even an even harder decision if 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:05.895 it had been fitted out, but it hasn't 00:20:05.919 --> 00:20:08.856 been. And the the applicant said to me, 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.015 he had to put a roof on it for obvious 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.696 reasons to protect him, which I respect 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.015 that. He did stop work, and I saw that 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.039 for myself. Um yes what is has been 00:20:19.360 --> 00:20:21.976 built is 120 mil higher than what was 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.856 approved. Um what so on top of that with 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.880 I said 800 mill it's actually 900 is the 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.616 um building surveying 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:32.296 height that they got wrong which I've 00:20:32.320 --> 00:20:33.895 never heard of in any planning 00:20:33.919 --> 00:20:35.336 application bought before this council 00:20:35.360 --> 00:20:37.176 that they've got the building survey 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:38.856 wrong. look, it should have been 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:40.456 picked up quite frankly by the building 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.480 cuz it's we're now over a meter higher 00:20:43.520 --> 00:20:46.520 from the street and it is visually um it 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:49.496 is vis visually dominant. 00:20:49.520 --> 00:20:51.416 Furthermore, 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.655 we've had a lot of developments done in 00:20:53.679 --> 00:20:56.296 G Street where people have um worked 00:20:56.320 --> 00:20:57.895 within the framework of the heritage 00:20:57.919 --> 00:21:00.376 overlay and our heritage policy 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:02.616 including objectives to this application 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.696 and they've made their own changes to 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:06.856 meet the requirements. So I feel it's 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.336 very much unfair if they've followed 00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:11.496 that policy and now somebody's getting 00:21:11.520 --> 00:21:13.576 an exception to that. And also as 00:21:13.600 --> 00:21:15.976 council has quite rightly pointed, 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.816 heritage is now significantly under 00:21:17.840 --> 00:21:19.336 threat. We've talked about it around 00:21:19.360 --> 00:21:21.496 this table. We're going to lose a lot of 00:21:21.520 --> 00:21:23.496 what we love about the whole of Stington 00:21:23.520 --> 00:21:25.576 under the new planning scheme changes. 00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:27.336 So I will be doing anything to protect 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:29.176 what we can protect and that's certainly 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.895 the heritage. So I will be putting um 00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:34.296 the motion for a refusal to council. All 00:21:34.320 --> 00:21:37.320 those in favor of the refusal. 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:40.456 All those against. I'll now do the 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.456 votes. All those in favor. So, councelor 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:43.895 S, councelor Humphre, councelor 00:21:43.919 --> 00:21:45.576 Chattery, councelor Stefanopoulos, 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:47.496 council Hopper, councelor Davis, 00:21:47.520 --> 00:21:49.976 councelor Clasarus. All those against, 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.535 councelor Bell, and councelor Healey. 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:54.056 Um, the motion is carried. So, the 00:21:54.080 --> 00:21:55.736 refusal has been successful. Thank you, 00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:58.760 councilors. We now move on to item 8.2, 00:21:59.280 --> 00:22:02.056 the congestion levy FY27 00:22:02.080 --> 00:22:03.895 management. And we're seeking a deferral 00:22:03.919 --> 00:22:05.576 for this application. Councelor Healey. 00:22:05.600 --> 00:22:08.456 Seconded councelor Davis. Y councelor 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:09.096 Healey. 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:10.616 thank you. Yes, we're seeking a 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.640 deferral um for one cycle. Correct. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.400 One cycle. Um we just got some 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.496 questions that we'd like some officers 00:22:19.520 --> 00:22:20.456 to respond to. 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.936 Thank you, councelor Davis. Any other 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.015 comments? Everyone's happy. One cycle. 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:28.039 Yes. All those in favor for one cycle. 00:22:28.320 --> 00:22:30.056 That motion's carried. Thank you, 00:22:30.080 --> 00:22:31.976 councilors. Council's 8.3 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.976 telecommunications facility options at 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.000 Central Park. Councelor Davis moving. 00:22:37.120 --> 00:22:38.616 Second, Councelor Stefanopoulos. 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.640 Councelor Davis. Thank you, Mayor. , 00:22:41.840 --> 00:22:44.376 this item recommends that the community 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.696 be invited to comment on Telster's 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.720 proposal to install a 26 m monopole in 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.936 Central Park to address the connectivity 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.960 issues in the surrounding area. Telster 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.895 customers in Molvin East and Glenn Iris 00:22:57.919 --> 00:22:59.736 have noticed their mobile coverage has 00:22:59.760 --> 00:23:02.760 deteriorated rapidly in recent years 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:04.936 and Central Park is in the heart of my 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.176 ward and I know local residents are very 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.256 protecting the 19 acres of historic 00:23:09.280 --> 00:23:12.280 Edwardian style gardens. As a as a ward 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:13.976 counselor, I was initially surprised 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:15.816 that Telster believed this is the best 00:23:15.840 --> 00:23:17.655 vantage point for the necessary 00:23:17.679 --> 00:23:20.135 infrastructure to improve current and 00:23:20.159 --> 00:23:22.296 future communications coverage in these 00:23:22.320 --> 00:23:24.775 suburbs. And according to the officer's 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.336 report, 15 possible sites were deemed 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:29.895 unsuitable. And at this point, I want to 00:23:29.919 --> 00:23:31.416 thank the officers, in particular the 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.376 CFO Julia Galachi, who's here tonight 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.216 and council's property coordinator 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.096 Kenton Chu for their due diligence. It 00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:41.336 encouraged Telra to provide evidence of 00:23:41.360 --> 00:23:43.096 all other suitable options before 00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:45.976 bringing this proposal to the table. So 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.976 we have two options to consider within 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.535 Central Park. One is to replace one of 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:52.376 the existing light towers on the John 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.696 Landy oval and the other to provide a 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.696 standalone monopole near the Waffle Tree 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.256 Road corner of Central Park. But the 00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:01.096 officers have also nominated an 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:03.576 alternative approach that Telster 00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:06.135 continues to pursue other options before 00:24:06.159 --> 00:24:08.135 considering Central Park as a last 00:24:08.159 --> 00:24:11.159 resort. Meanwhile, we must be mindful of 00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:14.135 over 700 people who signed petitions 00:24:14.159 --> 00:24:16.775 requesting council advocate to Telra to 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.176 improve their phone connectivity. At 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.336 this point, I might also add that the 00:24:21.360 --> 00:24:24.056 member for Mulvin, , O'Brien, Michael 00:24:24.080 --> 00:24:26.376 O'Brien, has also written to the 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:29.400 Telstress CEO, who's been pretty busy of 00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:32.760 late at Senate hearings, , to, um, to 00:24:33.520 --> 00:24:35.015 advocate to improve their phone 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.736 connectivity. Um, and I don't know what 00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:39.576 happened as a result of that, but , 00:24:39.600 --> 00:24:42.056 perhaps another letter to the CEO might 00:24:42.080 --> 00:24:44.856 be in order. So, I move the 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.015 recommendation to embark on a 4-week 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.015 consultation process with the community 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.576 for feedback about this proposal. Thank 00:24:51.600 --> 00:24:54.376 you. Thank you, Councelor Davis. 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:55.496 Councelor Stephen, [clears throat] 00:24:55.520 --> 00:24:56.856 no. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.096 Any other speakers to the motion out for 00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:00.775 consultation? 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:02.696 I'll put the motion council Davis. All 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.216 those in fog, [clears throat] 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.616 that motion is unanimously council. We 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.096 move to item 8.4 the technology one 00:25:09.120 --> 00:25:12.120 consulting and integration panel. 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.216 My exciting stuff councilors got a mover 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.775 and a second 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.799 council Healey. I'll just I'll just call 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.535 your name. I'll second her. Council 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.176 council bell. Was that a stretch or 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:26.216 second? 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.216 Okay. All right. Council council. Thank 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:28.456 you. 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:31.015 Yes. So technology one is a core 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.015 business system which underpins our 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:34.616 finance, customer service and other 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.096 central operations. So it's important 00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:39.655 that we get it right essentially. Um and 00:25:39.679 --> 00:25:41.816 this panel gives us continued access to 00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:43.976 that experience secured through really 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.616 rigorous process. Um we had 20 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.056 submissions assessed on price, 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:49.816 capability and experience with the best 00:25:49.840 --> 00:25:52.696 compliment offer around to chart value. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.096 Um it's rate card only so there's no 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:57.736 guaranteed spend and the estimated cost 00:25:57.760 --> 00:26:00.760 is within adopted budget. So happy to um 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.736 approve this 00:26:03.760 --> 00:26:06.296 council. Anything to add any speakers to 00:26:06.320 --> 00:26:08.856 the motion councils? 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.096 All those in favor? 00:26:11.120 --> 00:26:13.655 That motion is carried unanimously. 00:26:13.679 --> 00:26:16.535 Thank you councilors. We now move to 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.616 correspondence council. So that brings 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.296 general business to an end. So, if there 00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:22.376 are any items of correspondence to table 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.176 this evening, 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.616 councelor Davis, we now move to 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.216 petitions. I understand you've got a 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.240 petition from residents in Hope Street. 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:34.135 Yes. Thank you, Mayor. , I'll just 00:26:34.159 --> 00:26:37.159 quickly read out the request that 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.176 parking on Hope Street be changed to 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.336 2-hour parking to discourage all day 00:26:43.360 --> 00:26:45.096 commuter parking and improve 00:26:45.120 --> 00:26:47.736 availability for residents and visitors. 00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:49.255 seeking the street closure at the 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.496 entrance of Hope Street Burke Road close 00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:54.520 to the boundary of the development which 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.496 is 173 Burke Road to prevent motorists 00:26:57.520 --> 00:26:59.255 from using our residential street as a 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.015 shortcut between Waffle Tree Road and 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.816 Burke Road. I have 29 signatures for 00:27:03.840 --> 00:27:06.616 this um petition. Thank you, Council 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.255 Davis. All right. Um can I have a mover 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.096 and a second to receive the petition? 00:27:11.120 --> 00:27:14.120 Move. Councelor Steph, second council to 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.336 receive. Yep. All right. So, um, all 00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:18.616 those in favor of receiving those 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.496 petitions, thank you. , and just 00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:23.416 noting again, when we vote to receive a 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.096 petition, we're not indicating support. 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:26.616 It's just, um, but rather those should 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.135 be allowed to be considered by council 00:27:28.159 --> 00:27:30.456 officers for response. Councilors, we 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.296 now move to notices of motion, and there 00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:34.135 being none, we will move to reports by 00:27:34.159 --> 00:27:36.856 councilors. And we have um the record of 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.616 council briefing session held on the 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.640 13th of July , 2026. Can I have a 00:27:42.080 --> 00:27:44.535 mover and a seconder to adopt that 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.056 record of the meeting? Thank you, 00:27:46.080 --> 00:27:48.616 councelor Davis. I'll second it. Any 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.176 comments? All those in favor of adopting 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.056 that record. That's carried unanimously. 00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:55.655 Councilors, we now move to questions to 00:27:55.679 --> 00:27:57.336 council officers. There any questions to 00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:59.096 council officers this evening? 00:27:59.120 --> 00:27:59.736 Thank you, mayor. 00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:01.736 Yes. 00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:03.576 Through you, , I'd like to request 00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:06.600 the, , officers provide an update on 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.096 173 Burke Road, Glenn Iris, otherwise 00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:12.120 known as the Woolworths development. 00:28:12.399 --> 00:28:14.135 since the planning minister 00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.895 fasttracked the approval of this 00:28:15.919 --> 00:28:18.216 application, setting aside council and 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.535 BCAT's refusal on the time, the 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.375 developer has submitted an amendment to 00:28:22.399 --> 00:28:24.056 increase the height and the number of 00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:27.015 apartments. So residents are curious to 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.416 know what is actually happening in this 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.895 area. Thank you councelor Davis. Um 00:28:31.919 --> 00:28:34.456 Hannah, are you going to respond? 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.856 May so council was notified of an 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.856 amendment application approved 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.296 development um which has been lodged 00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:42.456 with the nursing planning on the 13th of 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.480 May this year. The application proposes 00:28:45.919 --> 00:28:48.696 additional level and departments 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.176 the amended application has not 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.976 undergone broader public notice and 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.976 may still be subject to further 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.535 information by department transport 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.559 planning. Council isn't privy to this 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.015 internal assessment process um with the 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.816 department and is not aware that formal 00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:09.976 notification to neighboring properties 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.000 will occur. officers did submit an 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.015 objection to the application on the 16th 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:16.056 of July. 00:29:16.080 --> 00:29:18.856 Yeah. So thank you. Just to clarify, so 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.015 council has submitted an objection to 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.655 this subsequent amendment, but it 00:29:23.679 --> 00:29:26.056 hasn't actually been recorded 00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:28.696 as yet. 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.216 Yeah. 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.535 that our officers have submitted an 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:33.736 objection but it hasn't actually gone 00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:35.336 out to public. 00:29:35.360 --> 00:29:37.336 Yeah. 00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:38.535 Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.775 Right. Thank you, council. Any other 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.799 questions, council officers? 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.240 John, please. No. All right. Councilors, 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.895 any items urgent business? Yes. No. 00:29:49.919 --> 00:29:50.296 No. 00:29:50.320 --> 00:29:53.015 Okay. Any other any items urgent 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.535 business to raise? 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.216 All right. Councilor's um items of 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.240 general business this evening Davis. 00:29:59.760 --> 00:30:01.416 I just stopped looking at you. I said, 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.135 you know, I for you about this one. I 00:30:04.159 --> 00:30:06.296 just have a couple of items if I may. 00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:07.976 Um, 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.216 last week The Age published an opinion 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.056 piece from a young Melbourne woman, 00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:14.056 Georgie, who bought an affordable 00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:16.616 apartment in a prestigious development. 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.616 She described how she is denied lift 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.856 access to amenities within the apartment 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:22.696 building, such as the gymnasium, the 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.616 swimming pool, and rooftop terrace, 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.616 which are exclusively for the use of the 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.416 wealthier occupants. Georgie described 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.336 how she felt humiliated that people knew 00:30:31.360 --> 00:30:33.336 her lesser financial situation because 00:30:33.360 --> 00:30:36.135 of her apartment level. This segregation 00:30:36.159 --> 00:30:37.976 is akin to what's known as the poor 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.296 door, a separate entrance for affordable 00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:42.456 housing residents in developments who do 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.856 not share the same expensive and 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.096 expansive lobby entrance as their 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:49.576 wealthier inhabitants. Developers in New 00:30:49.600 --> 00:30:51.496 York and London introduced the poor door 00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:53.976 entrances over a decade ago. And since 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.056 then, research from sociologists, 00:30:56.080 --> 00:30:58.616 demographers, even criminologists say 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.856 this entrenches social inequality, 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.176 causes stigmatization, and deprivives 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.255 lowerincome families of the benefits of 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.736 integrated communities. I think we all 00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:09.655 have a moral obligation to tell our 00:31:09.679 --> 00:31:11.255 federal and state governments that they 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.535 should at least draw on the 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.856 international research now before 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.856 develop allowing developers to create 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.936 segregation, which has proven to have 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.576 negative negative ramifications in our 00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:23.976 society. And I would also hope that 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.000 perhaps we could um encourage the MAB to 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.375 also make a stance about this because 00:31:30.399 --> 00:31:33.399 it's it's just a falling. And I actually 00:31:33.679 --> 00:31:36.056 did respond to that story and had a 00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:38.135 letter published in my age explain 00:31:38.159 --> 00:31:40.135 expressing my concerns about this. I 00:31:40.159 --> 00:31:42.216 feel quite strongly about it and I hope 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.240 we can pursue this. Um I on another 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.255 matter, I'd just like to extend 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.255 condolences to families of people with 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.816 connections in Stallington. Actor Terry 00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:53.736 Donovan, father of actor singer Jason 00:31:53.760 --> 00:31:55.655 Donovan, died in Cababrini on Saturday 00:31:55.679 --> 00:31:58.056 night and had lived in Molvin for many 00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:00.696 decades. And journalist and former 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.616 Victorian senator Darren Hench didn't 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.375 live in Stonnington but was frequently 00:32:04.399 --> 00:32:06.296 spotted always at the table in the front 00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:09.320 window of Romeo's in Turk. And a 00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:11.416 surprising connection is the West Indies 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.135 cricketer Sir Garfield Soers who was a 00:32:14.159 --> 00:32:15.976 cricket coach with the east with the 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.375 East Molvin cricket club during the 00:32:18.399 --> 00:32:19.976 1981-82 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.000 seasons. Following the announcement of 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.255 Sober's death last week, the Herald Sun 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.495 sports reporter Paul Amy interviewed 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.255 then president of the East Mob cricket 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.976 club Daryl Raget who befriended the then 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.775 Sir Gary Pers Sover at a sports event 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.495 and convinced him to coach the club. It 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.495 is a very funny story and I wish I had 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.056 time to relate in full but if anybody 00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:44.535 wants to do a Google it's a a 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.216 fascinating story about how that came 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.176 about and as an aside the East Molvin 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.856 cricket club which is now East Molvin 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.816 Turanga Cricket Club actually won 00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:55.655 premierships for all their levels of 00:32:55.679 --> 00:32:58.535 cricket while he was coaching 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.456 surprisingly. So just an aside. 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:01.096 Mhm. 00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:02.856 Thank you councelor Davis for those two 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.255 insightful bits of um information. Very 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:06.535 entertaining. Now we're council Helian 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.296 and Council Stson and Council Humphre 00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:09.176 Council. 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.696 Thank you. Um I just wanted to 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.696 acknowledge some news from the Tourett 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.655 South Business Association. So Ian Sharp 00:33:15.679 --> 00:33:17.576 of Ian Sharp Jewelry has stepped down 00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:20.216 after many years as president. Um 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.976 including time as a committee member 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.616 before that. Um I'm pretty sure several 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.255 decades. 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.176 I think it was 25 years. We're actually 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.194 writing a letter to thank him is working 00:33:30.218 --> 00:33:31.576 [clears throat] at the moment. Yeah. And 00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:32.856 to welcome the new president. 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.576 Yes. So Ian Ian's business turns 50 onto 00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:37.416 our road this September and over the 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.576 years he's been a real driving force of 00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:41.176 um initiatives that have benefited the 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.775 traders in the precinct as well as being 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.576 a really strong mentor to new businesses 00:33:45.600 --> 00:33:47.655 finding a feat. Um I'm glad to hear that 00:33:47.679 --> 00:33:49.255 he's staying on the committee so we 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.495 won't lose his experience altogether and 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.456 also again to congratulate Sha Broadband 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.375 of McGrath Real Estate who's taking up 00:33:56.399 --> 00:33:58.056 the role of president um and look 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:00.696 forward to working with the association 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.856 under his new leadership. Thank you. 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.696 Thank you um council and as I said we 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.456 are writing to both of them so to thank 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.536 them council stepping up. Um just 00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:10.536 following on from about um Jason's 00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:12.055 father, Jason and I went to school 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.176 together. He was a few years older than 00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:15.655 me and his father lived in Armadal in my 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:17.335 ward. So I I knew 00:34:17.359 --> 00:34:18.536 just road. 00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:19.976 Yeah, just a plary road. So that's a 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.536 quite quite sad. It was actually just to 00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:25.335 see the flag down half today because of 00:34:25.359 --> 00:34:28.055 Darren's um memorial service. I think it 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.815 was in the funeral. So yeah. 00:34:29.839 --> 00:34:31.815 Yeah. It was state funeral. 00:34:31.839 --> 00:34:32.536 State funeral. 00:34:32.560 --> 00:34:33.575 Yeah. 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.599 Yes. Thank you, Council St. What's then? 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.696 Um, and then Sam Neil. 00:34:38.720 --> 00:34:39.736 Sam Neil. Yeah, 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.736 that's 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.296 New Zealand. 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:42.855 Yeah, 00:34:42.879 --> 00:34:44.536 but still Sam Neil, 00:34:44.560 --> 00:34:45.496 we take him as a 00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:47.416 Yeah, we we'll have him. We'll have him 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.815 council. [laughter] 00:34:49.839 --> 00:34:51.416 Council Humphre is over to you. 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:52.296 Questions? 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.496 No, I didn't have any. All right, 00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:54.696 but thank you for thinking. 00:34:54.720 --> 00:34:56.696 Oh, why not? Anyone else? All right. 00:34:56.720 --> 00:34:58.856 Well, I've got some just um something to 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.416 raise under general business. So, I 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.176 just want to make a just um some 00:35:03.200 --> 00:35:05.016 commentary around the activity center 00:35:05.040 --> 00:35:07.896 program. Um so the Stonnington of Stoington is 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.456 extremely disappointed with the way that 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:12.856 the current government has conducted the 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.575 activity centers program and um by the 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.896 ultimate outcome. So stage one and stage 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.136 two final maps have now been released 00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:22.216 for 50 train and tram activity centers 00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:24.136 and 10 pilot activity centers across 00:35:24.160 --> 00:35:26.136 Melbourne and planning controls are 00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:27.976 already gazetted for stage one and stage 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.856 two will be gazetted shortly. So 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.936 Stonnington has a direct and significant 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:34.696 stake in the activity centers program 00:35:34.720 --> 00:35:37.720 with 15 of the 60 identified activity 00:35:38.560 --> 00:35:41.560 centers. So 25% are located within our 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.896 municipality and another three centers 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.656 whose broader catchments impact our 00:35:45.680 --> 00:35:48.536 Stington residents. So in the train and 00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:51.256 tram activity center zones, heights of 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.280 six to 16 stories will be allowed in 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.376 commercial areas in various activity 00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.095 center cores and heights of three to 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:00.536 four stories will be allowed in 00:36:00.560 --> 00:36:02.376 residential catchments within 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.400 approximately 800 m of the cause with 00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:07.416 heights of up to six stories on large 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.496 residential lots over 1,000 square 00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:12.520 meters closer to the cause. Whilst we're 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.936 not opposed to housing growth and we do 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.616 recognize the pressure to deliver more 00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:19.575 homes in more located areas, we're not a 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.976 blocker, we have approved density where 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.575 it works with the right infrastructure, 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.176 design, standards, and protections in 00:36:25.200 --> 00:36:26.616 place to ensure that the neighborhood 00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:28.776 character, heritage, and the livability 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.016 of what we love about our Stonnington and um 00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:33.416 and we've worked very hard to um 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.136 protect. We are however very concerned 00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:38.216 that in the activity center cause if a 00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:40.536 development proposal is deemed to comply 00:36:40.560 --> 00:36:42.376 with applicable built form overlay 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.400 standards it gets automatic approval and 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.976 in most cases developers deferred deem 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.216 to comply have no right of review of 00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:53.240 VCAT. So our community has lost their 00:36:53.520 --> 00:36:55.176 right to have a say on development in 00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:57.016 their own neighborhood and a number of 00:36:57.040 --> 00:36:59.335 us are already dealing with in South 00:36:59.359 --> 00:37:01.976 Yara the Imperial Hotel u where people 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:03.575 are reaching out to us the one that 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.496 councelor Davis in your ward with the 00:37:05.520 --> 00:37:07.416 woolworth site people are reaching out 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.136 to us and it's very challenging to 00:37:10.160 --> 00:37:11.976 explain to them there's nothing that we 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.896 can do to help them and they're 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.296 incredulous to the fact that they cannot 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.320 they have no right of appeal at BCAP 00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:21.976 consultation with counseling community 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.216 across this program was not genuine. Um 00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:26.536 it was un and it's unacceptable for 00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:29.095 decisions of this magnitude. Strington 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:30.696 as we all know has already done the 00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:32.616 strategic work to support population 00:37:32.640 --> 00:37:35.416 growth. Um our and I'll say our 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.815 awardwinning structure plans and 00:37:37.839 --> 00:37:39.575 strategies kind of extension of time. So 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:39.976 moved. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:41.016 Thank you. 00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:43.016 Um our award-winning structure plans and 00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.456 strategies developed through extensive 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.055 community consultation over many 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:47.496 decades. We've established height 00:37:47.520 --> 00:37:48.776 controls for all of these commercial 00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.936 centers and residential areas. And under 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.856 our plan, we can accommodate an 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.656 additional 67,000 dwellings by 201, 00:37:55.680 --> 00:37:58.680 which is um which is 16 17,000 more than 00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:01.496 what the government's own target is. Um 00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:03.095 and by doing that, without even 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.095 compromising the heritage significance 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.176 and the character of the our historic 00:38:07.200 --> 00:38:09.176 streetscapes, reducing sunlight to our 00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:11.176 streets and parks, or diminishing 00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:13.095 residential amenity. and the state 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.575 government's broad brush approach just 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.296 completely obliterates that. Council's 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:19.575 calling on the state government to 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.176 urgently work with local councils to 00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:22.936 refine the program and ensure better 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.016 alignment with existing planning and 00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:26.936 community wishes and to clarify several 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.536 inconsistencies, 00:38:28.560 --> 00:38:31.560 including the application of zoning on 00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:34.616 heritage areas. There are details on our 00:38:34.640 --> 00:38:36.616 website about what is changing and how 00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:39.016 you'll be impacted. So, I hope those 00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:40.856 watching tonight take heed of that. Do 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.095 some investigation and please reach out. 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.416 We really need the community to stand up 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.815 and speak out against um what's being 00:38:47.839 --> 00:38:50.216 proposed and implemented. 00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:52.296 All right, councilors. Um that deals 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.536 with general business. We do have one 00:38:54.560 --> 00:38:57.560 item of confidential business. So, I'm 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.599 going to ask for us to move into 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.656 confidential business. Can I have a 00:39:03.680 --> 00:39:05.575 mover and a second? Move. Councelor 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:06.616 Davis, second to councelor 00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:08.376 Stefanopoulos. All those in favor of 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.055 moving to confidential business. Thank 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.216 you, councilors. So, this will bring our 00:39:12.240 --> 00:39:15.240 public meeting to um and close at 7:39 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.736 p.m. We'll turn off the live stream now, 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.656 those in the gallery will need to leave. 00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:23.095 Um thank you to those who have joined 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.496 the meeting tonight online um and those 00:39:25.520 --> 00:39:27.256 in the gallery and we'll return once 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:28.856 we've dealt with the confidential 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.880 business matter. Thank you. 00:39:32.640 --> 00:39:34.296 So, thank you. This will bring our 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.320 public meeting to a close at 4 7:42 p.m. 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.736 We will turn off the live. Oh, sorry. 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.736 Um, so thank you to everyone for joining 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.760 us here this evening. Wishing you